I thought this might be interstng.....
starting off
BBC-NATO/UK
Microsoft-USA
Wal-mart-USA
ExxonMobil-USA
BP-UK/NATO
GAZPROM-MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....Russia:lol:
CNN-USA

One of the major car companies could be an option (doesn't have to be American)

I think that some kind of weaponry could be made accessible by coorporations representing three main world arms: sellers US, Russia(Rosoboroneksport?), and France

^^^ And Britain as well (not thats anything to be particulary proud about :p)

Here are the top 10 world corporations, though they are mostly oil companies.

1. Wal-Mart Stores
Global 500 rank: 1 (Previous rank: 2)
2006 Revenues (millions): $351,139
Headquarters: Bentonville, AR
Country: U.S.
Get quote: WMT

2. Exxon Mobil
Global 500 rank: 2 (Previous rank: 1)
2006 Revenues (millions): $347,254
Headquarters: Irving, TX
Country: U.S.
Get quote: XOM

3. Royal Dutch Shell
Global 500 rank: 3 (Previous rank: 3)
2006 Revenues (millions): $318,845
Headquarters: The Hague
Country: Netherlands
Get quote: RDSA

4. BP
Global 500 rank: 4 (Previous rank: 4)
2006 Revenues (millions): $274,316
Headquarters: London
Country: Britain
Get quote: BP

5. General Motors
Global 500 rank: 5 (Previous rank: 5)
2006 Revenues (millions): $207,349
Headquarters: Detroit, MI
Country: U.S.
Get quote: GM

6. Toyota Motor
Global 500 rank: 6 (Previous rank: 8)
2006 Revenues (millions): $204,746
Headquarters: Toyota
Country: Japan
Get quote: TM

7. Chevron
Global 500 rank: 7 (Previous rank: 6)
2006 Revenues (millions): $200,567
Headquarters: San Ramon, CA
Country: U.S.
Get quote: CVX

8. DaimlerChrysler
Global 500 rank: 8 (Previous rank: 7)
2006 Revenues (millions): $190,191
Headquarters: Stuttgart
Country: Germany
Get quote: DCX

9. ConocoPhillips
Global 500 rank: 9 (Previous rank: 10)
2006 Revenues (millions): $172,451
Headquarters: Houston, TX
Country: U.S.
Get quote: COP

10. Total
Global 500 rank: 10 (Previous rank: 12)
2006 Revenues (millions): $168,357
Headquarters: Courbevoie
Country: France
Get quote: TOT

I like the idea and I like the lists, but we need one company for ever subject:

1. Electronics - Microsoft :badcomp:
2. General Goods - Wal-Mart :king:
3. Foods - ?
4. Construction - ?
5. Military - PMC of some sort :espionage:
6. Transportation/vehicles - Toyota Motor?
7. Oil and Fuels - Shell?

They all should make money regardless of where they are but to gain good profit they need the right location or resource. Microsoft makes money in developed and rich cities; Wal-Mart needs both poor and middle class cities to earn money; the food company makes money with wheat, rice, ect... anything that grows; Construction companies make lots of money in undeveloped cities and, if there is a trade rout can produce an artificial production if the land around the city is undeveloped; PMCs makes money from revolting cities, unhappy cities and cites in a country at war; the transportation company works with the oil and fuel company and both make money from big rich cities with lots of routes near by and require oil.

Given the importance of media in todays world, I cant help but feel we should include the bbc,cnn,cctv,al-jazeera in some way.

:pand France
Exocet!

Right, media, I forgot. So eight corporations? If anyone has specific companies or other subjects please say something. BTW a mining corp goes under fuels and construction.

Time Warner is the worlds larget media corporation. They also own CNN so either would suffice.

Yeah, but we don't want to many US corps so i would suggest a foreign media corp like the BBC (not that i am biased having worked for them :mischief:)

Yeah, but we don't want to many US corps so i would suggest a foreign media corp like the BBC (not that i am biased having worked for them :mischief:)

I agree, I would suggest:
US- 2 N. America
Walmart (Goods)
Microsoft (Technology)

Japan- 1 Far East Asia
Toyota (Transportation)

UK- 1 Europe
BBC (Media)

Saudi Arabia - 1 Middle East
Saudi Arabian Oil Co. (Energy)

South Africa- 1 Africa
Standard Bank Group (?Banking?)

Brazil- 1 S. America
Cosan Industria (Agriculture/Biofuels)

Tough one for Africa, it is the Continents largest corporation. Maybe a Diamond (Gems) company would fit better?

I agree, I would suggest:
US- 2 N. America
Walmart (Goods)
Microsoft (Technology)

Japan- 1 Far East Asia
Toyota (Transportation)

UK- 1 Europe
BBC (Media)

Saudi Arabia - 1 Middle East
Saudi Arabian Oil Co. (Energy)

South Africa- 1 Africa
Standard Bank Group (?Banking?)

Brazil- 1 S. America
Cosan Industria (Agriculture/Biofuels)

Tough one for Africa, it is the Continents largest corporation. Maybe a Diamond (Gems) company would fit better?

Sounds good,but we need a way to show the imporatance of energy supplies
and their effect on diplomacy.Any Ideas?

Well, you could have some kind of relationship modifier that said "You have supplied us with Oil for many years +2 relations" Also you need to make AI trade when annoyed (but stop trading when Furious) otherwise some countries won't have any oil. You need to get a fair amount of gold per turn for it as well.

Ideally I would quite like the resources to become quantative like what GO is working at now, so you get a supply of oil from each well to power cities and units, and thus as the world gets more dependant on oil you get less oil in surplus and thus the price goes up, but how you would program it i don't know!

(can i write here?) anyway i thought of like communications with something like Sony Ericsson, Samsung, Nokia or something like that. Maybe makes money in large cities with power.

I don't think it's out of the question to have more corporations, possibly lowering their bonuses and their impact on inflation.

I don't think it's out of the question to have more corporations, possibly lowering their bonuses and their impact on inflation.

We could start off with 7 founded Corporations and add a few unfounded ones with some near future technologies.

what about competition? there is always competing corporations although i can't figure any way of making several corporations on the same line.

EDIT: just thought of minor corporations, it's not always the bigger ones that make influence.

I found a list of companies by revenue in wikipedia if it is to any use


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_by_revenue#cite_note-2

Why not the Swiss Bank or Sony for Banking and Technology respectively

There is no corporation named "Swiss Bank".

As i can see it on the wikipedia list Dexia is the largest banking company Which is from Belgium.

What about food? Nestle or some other major food corp?

What do we mean with food? Food Processing or supermarket chains (couldn't figure out a better name)? anyway if food processing i agree with the one over me (Nestlé). :agree:

I might suggest swapping out microsoft for IBM, it is a much larger company in terms of revenue, employees, and world presence.

In terms of food, look at either Nestle, a huge company, or the dutch conglomerate Delhaize... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delhaize_Group

[QUOTE=Stalin_Bulldog;7013548]I might suggest swapping out microsoft for IBM, it is a much larger company in terms of revenue, employees, and world presence. QUOTE]

Hewlett Packard seems to be bigger than IBM by revenue, but IBM seems to be bigger by more employees and market capitalization. But Microsoft is the most known company (i think), but still IBM is larger so i think we'll use that.

How about using oil in the same way as colonies in civ3.You can place oil plant on oil resourses,guarateeing you power and fuel for tanks/veichles and railways.BUT if demand exceeds supply your units will be able to move less?and railways may be disabled.Of course you can nationalise,seizing oil plants of a different nationality
PS you have to pay to be in other countries.......usually

Sounds good!

How about General Dynamics or Raytheon for the military corporation? They're huge.

may I suggest switching the UK Corporation BBC, a goverment owned media company for BAE Systems, with an annual profit of £1.4 Billion last year.

if you were to do one for the EU, i would suggest Airbus, worlds second largest Civil Aircraft manufacturer

may I suggest switching the UK Corporation BBC, a goverment owned media company for BAE Systems,

BBC is government subsidised NOT owned, BAE systems is also government subsidised, plus BBC has more influnence over the rest of the world than BAE systems, if you want a big British company maybe Shell or one of the major banks could be an option.

BBC is government subsidised NOT owned, BAE systems is also government subsidised, plus BBC has more influnence over the rest of the world than BAE systems, if you want a big British company maybe Shell or one of the major banks could be an option.



The British Goverent have one share in BAE for £1, BAE is no longer a state owned buisness.
The BBC is funded by the licence fee, a form of taxation in a way, and is governed by a Royal Charter that is reviewed every ten years by the goverment. It is independent of the goverment but funded by the tax payer, BAE is owned by its sharholders, of which the goverment has one share and makes a large profit in various defence industries across the globe (they own the company that makes the Bradley fighting vehicle in current US service), manufacturing weapons systems in service across the globe.

edit: shell is dutch as i recall, best bet for a UK oil company would be BP

shell is dutch as i recall,

It's both Dutch and British

And i still think BBC is a better choice. It is more well known than BAE systems

the largest broadcasting company in the world against not the biggest arms manufacturer.BBC!

the largest broadcasting company in the world against not the biggest arms manufacturer.BBC!

I bow to consensus opinion on the matter :)

Some interesting oil corporation ideas:
("neutral" vanilla-like names)

Taiga Crude (Gazprom?)
Gulf Wells
Delta Oil

these corporations would require oil to found (hq's in Russia, Saudi-Arabia and Nigeria) and provide oil to cities where they are present, representing the money flow from the less oil-rich countries to these oil-producers

BHP-Billiton is the world's largest mining company, and Australia will need it to exploit natural resources sufficiently to compensate for Indonesia's massive population.

We have so many civs in this game, I'm starting to think giving 7 of them a big advantage in the form of a corporation might be unfair. Maybe we can think of a way to use corporations to represent trading blocks; NAFTA, MERSOCUR, ASEAN, etc.

How about handling some environmental decisions via Corporations?
Thus two corps are rivals for Fur, Ivory and Whales: one gives :), :science: and :gold: ; the other gives :gold: and :food:

Of course, the opposition doesn't have to be perfect - while a Poachers Corp would go Fur, Ivory and Whales, a Fishing Corp would go Whales, Fish and Crabs.

Thoughts for 7 Corps:

Industry in the world divvies into two easily: those nation which produce mineral resources, and those that process them into finished products.
So 2 corps which both consume mineral resources; the first, in OZ, South Africa etc, gives :gold:, the second spread through Europe, North America, Japan etc provides hammers and :beakers:.

Most resources are actually foodstuffs though. Here a three way split makes sense:
1) Fast Food Franchises: uses all edible resources except Whales, produces both :food: and :yuck:
2) Health Foods: only uses the healthy resources, produces:food: and a:health: (so better return for each resource, but can use fewer resources).
3) A third firm, that also consumes whales.

Then, a sixth Corp, consuming Hit Movies/Musicals/Singles, Ivory, Fur and Whales, that represents GreenPeace, Band Aid etc. - and

Finally, Oil is a single industry, but wouldn't actually be in the Middle East - although sold by Oil producing countries, the stuff is *used* elsewhere.

Ok I'm starting work on corporations now. I like Mr Historical's list, but I think if we're starting with 7 corps we should spread them out among the current corporate/financial powers of the world.

So I'm thinking:

USA
EU
NATO
Japan
Russia
China

...and I came up with:

USA: Exxon Mobil (Irving, TX. ~Dallas/Houston)
Wal-Mart Stores (Bentonville, AR. ~ Little Rock)
EU: ING Group (Amsterdam)
NATO: H.S.B.C. (London)
Japan: Toyota Motor (Toyota, Aichi. ~Nagoya)
Russia: Gazprom (Moscow)
China: State Grid (Beijing)

These are mainly the biggest corps from each of these counties/unions, with some exceptions to prevent having 6 or 7 oil companies.

We're going to try to use these to represent how there are small countries that each of these powers currently have influence in (some would use the word exploiting). I think it has been agreed on (I'll have to re-read these threads) that having these corps in most African cities will be the way of insuring that Africa starts off at a disadvantage. I think we should make some sort of (very costly) revolutionary or populist unit that liberates a city from a having a foreign corporation.

We could start off with 7 founded Corporations and add a few unfounded ones with some near future technologies.


This is a good idea, I'll see what I can come up with. There are a number of techs in our tree that I think lend themselves to this. Electric car, the new cure/treatment ones, quantum computing maybe.

If anyone wants to check out the tech tree and and make suggestions, that would help. I guess you'll have to download the mod from the SVN to see it at this point because I haven't posted the tree in the forum yet.

So another thing we have to figure out is, which of these six powers has economic influence in which countries. This is going to take some doing.

For example, China's corp will be in places like Zimbabwe, America's will be in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Philippines (and obviously more countries than any other). Russia's will be in places like Palestine. And so on and so forth. Don't worry about where these specific real world corporations operate, so much as where the 6 countries profit.

I don't mind putting this list together by myself, but I can't promise it will be perfectly accurate. So anyone with any ideas on this or any other corporation related topic, now is the time to let them fly.

Oh, ahem... and we have to decide on the benefits and everything of each. Including the negative benefits of having a foreign corp in a city. Small point I forgot to mention. :D

how about swap out Barclays Bank and put HSBC there instead.

The worlds largest Bank with $235 Trillion in assets, and a heavy presence in Asia & Australasia, North & South America, Europe and the Middle East and Africa.

A truly global company and a significant asset to Her Majesty's Tresuary :p

HSBC, of course, being the Hong Kong, Shangai Banking Corporation. Not really a Western bank ;)

haha, well...

two brits and a canuck, I'll let you guys decide this one!

HSBC, of course, being the Hong Kong, Shangai Banking Corporation. Not really a Western bank ;)

but headquarted in Canary Wharf, London, United Kingdom. Started out as a Colonial Bank, now a multinational with its HQ in the mother country.

Fine, fine ;) I agree it's much bigger than Barclays, at least international-wise.

shoot I forgot to mention, one of the reasons I went with Barclays in the first place was because it has a coloured logo, almost all others are on a white background. HSBC is white too. Anyway we can modify the logos later if we want, we may even not want to use the real corporate logos at all. For now they'll just be the real world white logos (Gazprom being the lone coloured one).

One thing we want to avoid I suppose is being sued. Of course most of these banks and oil companies have bigger problems these days, but we don't want to piss off wal-mart. Or Gazprom for that matter... you guys in the UK don't want to wake up with polonium poisoning lol. (too soon?)

Any corporation or anything that notices our mod and does not want their name/image or whatever used, gets it removed right away. Country and leader names are fair use so we have no problem there. However, although extremely unlikely I may as well give you guys a heads up; if anyone from Russia/Pakistan/USA or any other scary country's government contacts me personally I will bend to their will like a frightened child. If New Zealand complains, we'll take a stand!

My understanding is that we should be able to use corporate names and logos as well, so we'll use them for now but if any one of them contacts us about it, we're not going to argue with them.

If we modify their logos at all we will also have to use one-off names.

sounds reasonable at this end

Yep, fine by me.

Banks as corporations doesn't really work. They don't use resources, with the past exception of gold, and most nations haven't been on the gold standard for decades.
The way to represent banks is the headquarters of each corp - that's where the money is being funnelled to, after all.

Hm, that's a good point. We're going to have to re-think how the bank is going to work.

I think the bank corps should just deal with dollars (gold), like in real life. In real life not all corps use resources (the ones in the game anyway, obviously banks use paper etc).

So if you own a bank corp, you get X dollars per turn for every one of your cities you spread it to. When you spread it to a foreign city, it takes x dollars per turn from that civ and gives it to you.

All corps will have to really benefit owning civs and hurt foreign ones. This is how we represent the west/china/russia's exploitation of places like Africa. I say we make some sort of expensive buildable unit that gets a foreign corp out of one of your cities. This could hurt relations with the corp owning civ (maybe also with all civs in the same trade organization as the corp owning civ, or even all civs that have capitalist civics). Letting foreign corps stay in your cities gives you + relations with owning civs (and possibly others described before).

"+5- Our corporation flourishes in your country"

and

"+1- You have allowed our friend's corporation to operate inside your borders"

Some civics will prevent other countries from spreading their corps to your civ (left wing ones obviously). These same civics will kill the income from owning financial corps, so the western nations, the ones that have banks as corps ;-), won't switch to those ones.

The more advanced your civics, the less dollars a foreign corp takes away from you. So in the beginning, NATO having HSBC in say a Canadian city will harm Canada less than HSBC being in say an African union city will harm the African union. Because Canada will have better capitalist civics.

At the same time, civs won't be able to switch to left wing civics while they have any foreign corps in their cities. They will have to remove all the corps with the revolutionary units before they can start a revolution and switch to these civics. Also I think we should have a left wing revolutionary great person, that automatically removes all corps from you cities and triggers a left wing civic revolution, that will take a little less time than a revolution without the great person. I think this will balance out the great person corporation founding nicely. You can fight for capitalism or for socialism, like real life.

perhaps a government inspector unit who can "nationalise", i.e get rid of foreign corps?

Corps, anti corp units, and capitalist/socialist civics will obviously also tie in to ideologies I would assume.

Edit: this anti corp unit can only be built with some left leaning civic (not the one that prevents corporations obviously)... and possible a left leaning ideology as well.

perhaps a government inspector unit who can "nationalise", i.e get rid of foreign corps?


yes something like that.

Merry Christmas buddy! :D

to everyone :):):)

Oil companies:

If you own one of these, you will get increased oil for storage for every one of your cities it is in. When you expand it to foreign cities, it will take oil from their storage and give it to you. Pretty simple.

Will also have the same + relations for allowing it in your cities, same - for throwing it out.

Maybe these also give slight $ bonuses to the foreign cities in exchange for loss of oil.

hmm

Having a foreign corp that is owned by a member of your trade organization will give benefits to both civs, instead of harming one of the civs. :)

Having a corporation owned by a member of a trade organization in one of your cities could be the first prereq for getting Observer status in that trade org. Beautiful

Everything is tying in together really nicely. When you play this mod it seems as if it may be less about individual features and more just a dynamic representation of the financial world. :D:D

It would be nice if we can tie this in to the INCREASED LENDING feature we want to include.

All rich civs will still grant loans depending on conditions, but the only way to get really huge loans with long term payments is to have one of these banks in your civ. When you have their corp, the USA, EU, and NATO will grant you these huge loans.

Hopefully we can rig the AI to be smart enough to take these loans, and immediately buy a bunch of military hardware though the ARMS TRADE feature in times of war or increased regional tension.

Wal-Mart

will operate similarly to banks, but may require a resource. We haven't really discussed if we're going to add custom resources so I'm not sure which one.

In addition it should add happiness in civs with capitalist/consumer civics, and unhappiness with socialist civics.

Hm, that's a good point. We're going to have to re-think how the bank is going to work.
Thanks.

Banks - are quite simple really.

Nations which are currently in debt - start the game with agreements to pay X gold to banking nations every turn. They can either pay or take the diplomacy hit.

When in doubt, the simple option is the best.

ok corps have been added.

Thanks to NikNaks for the great buttons. :D ;)

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4083/world2009corps1fo4.jpg

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/25/world2009corpspedia1xx5.jpg

Corporate headquarters still have to be modified.


Remember the idea is to use corps to represent the economic advantage that developed nations currently have over underdeveloped ones. So these corps are set to provide massive bonuses to the host city, while generally providing a negative effect to foreign cities. As you can see with Exxon above, it gives money but takes away food. The exact settings will have to be adjusted during testing, but for now I've done my best with those.

The only real question I can see is, whether or not the banking corps will work without consuming resources. I suspect that they will not, since the effect for cities is based on "per resource consumed". We may have to add a paper resource or something that everyone gets one of to make those work. Other ideas more than welcome.


Head offices:

Exxon Mobil: Irving, TX. ~Probably Dallas/Houston. (USA)
Wal-Mart Stores: Bentonville, AR. ~Probably Little Rock. (USA)
ING Group: Amsterdam. (EU)
HSBC: London. (NATO)
Toyota Motor: Toyota, Aichi. ~ Probably Nagoya or Tokyo. (Japan)
Gazprom: Moscow. (Russia)
State Grid: Beijing. (China)


I have to say, if you work for/represent any of these corporations and have a problem with your information being used here:
if you want your corporate name/logo removed from our mod, please send an email to: theworld.2009 {a t } yahoo.com and we will do so. FYI this is a freeware, open source, multi developer project that no one is asking for donations for or profiting from. We believe we should not have any problems using these trademarks, because they are historical images and names and we are simply trying to recreate history.

Thanks to NikNaks for the great buttons. :D ;)


Wow, they look awesome. Great work, NikNaks!

DVS, this is looking great, its wonderful to see this mod emerging from our heads and into the real game :)

Do you reckon we should add natural gas as a resource for Gazprom?

I was thinking about that all the time. I think it would make sense. But it would even be cooler if we had gas pipelines as a new very expensive improvement. Gas could only be transported through these.

I was wandering if we could have natural gas resource? YAY for the North Sea Oil & Gas Fields! :D

I like the idea, but what would require the resource? Perhaps a few buildings?

Hm...it's mostly used for heating habitations...

its also used to fuel ships, most modern naval vessels use Gas turbines, aswell as the Challenger II MBT used to generate electricity, and to cook on, and also to provide heating.

Shouldn't we have the corporations provide a NEGATIVE effect on the cities they are in that are outside of the country's head-quarters.

If Africa is going to have all of the these corporations taking advantage of them to make the Western world rich...shouldn't Africa be actually exploited to the tune of losing a LOT of money through them?...

yes that's how they are set up, and maintenance is jacked up. Some corps do provide some bonuses to foreign cities, for example oil companies do provide some gold. Exact numbers will have to be tweaked.

Let me throw this out there.

First of all corporations in civ4 can be fun, but they don't represent corporations to well - too many benefits if you do it overseas. You actually try to do it for yourself and not your opponent.

How about this "spheres of influence"

change the corporations to a major power icon (US, EU, etc)
via SDK change what they do:
1) generate the owner civ's culture in the city (like +2 culture) so overtime the city becomes more and more of the superpowers/owners civ due to its influence (revolts etc make more sense eventually)

2) Increases the positive relations of the civ. If 10% of their cities has the corporation/sphere of influence in it then its +1 relations boost between the owner civ and the civ being influenced. in 10% increments it can go up to +10 relations boost.

the way i see it players can duke it out for influence by trying to spread their "influence" paying to establish it or remove the other. And establishing creates more of your culture and improves the relations to where your influence dominates.

The CEO units/diplomats can only be created at the HQ

well thats it a rough idea of my two cents.

Good ideas, and I'm glad that you're interested in our mod.

We are planning on looking in to changing the SDK for the corporations... we basically had the exact same idea you have as #2! Great minds think alike. ;-)

As far as #1, I love it. If everyone concurs, I will look in to making this change as well. Makes total sense.


One a side note, if you're ever looking for a new leader to make a leaderhead for... lol. We have about 40 requests.

Good ideas, and I'm glad that you're interested in our mod.

We are planning on looking in to changing the SDK for the corporations... we basically had the exact same idea you have as #2! Great minds think alike. ;-)

As far as #1, I love it. If everyone concurs, I will look in to making this change as well. Makes total sense.


One a side note, if you're ever looking for a new leader to make a leaderhead for... lol. We have about 40 requests.


:lol: I could sign on for "scratch my back I'll scratch yours" arrangement :lol:

but you might have to wait a bit I'm trying to wrap up a mod for colonization.

If you'd do that, that's awesome. Time isn't too much of an issue at the moment. We're focusing on getting the XML and stuff done before art.

Concerning corporations:

Some things need to be done in terms of their effects (will look into this to see if it is possible).

#1 - Corporations outside of the founding civ (IE Exxon Mobile in say, Colombia), should have massive maintainence costs to the foreign civ. This is so that Africa and the other developing countries can be fully exploited thru the powerhouse civ's corporations.

#2 - I think EVERY civ should have access to oil in their major cities. And the smaller civs in their capitals. It is unrealistic to think that a country would not have access to oil at all times - wars or not. I've said it before somewhere on this forum, but even during a war - every country will have at least some access to oil. So each civ should have an oil-producing corporation in their capitals & other necessary major world-class cities.

I think there should be a "Leech" Sort of effect. What I mean is that, taking Exxon for example, would have the "Leech" version of the coperation would be in the Middle East, sucking the Oil from those countries, while the "Normal" version is put in Americia and other nations that Exxon has pumps in, giving the bonuses to them.

That way, the founder takes all the benifites and the host takes none, which is exactly like the real world, am I not right?

You are right. But we have no one that can mod those effects into the game.

I got some how bout:

Walmart - US (had to put it ;))
Mcdonalds - US
Toyota - Japan
Speedway - US

I got some how bout:

Walmart - US (had to put it ;))
Mcdonalds - US
Toyota - Japan
Speedway - US

Your kind of too late. We already decidied on our 7 corporations (I assume more than 7 is not possible, right?). I was too late to put my Corporation ideas, too.

plus thats too many for US.

these are the final corporations as niknaks posted on page 4.

Exxon Mobil: Irving, TX. ~Probably Dallas/Houston. (USA)
Wal-Mart Stores: Bentonville, AR. ~Probably Little Rock. (USA)
ING Group: Amsterdam. (EU)
HSBC: London. (NATO)
Toyota Motor: Toyota, Aichi. ~ Probably Nagoya or Tokyo. (Japan)
Gazprom: Moscow. (Russia)
State Grid: Beijing. (China)

I had an idea... We can chose quickly and democratibly (exists this word?, I mean the more votes, the winner).

Ok, there it go:

- We get the TOP_7 economies in the whole world.
- Then we chose few companies from each one.
- Later on we have to decide 7 "markets" (fuel, food, banking, transport, communication, etc.).
- Finally should be a votation for each market, erasing the chosen country from the votation list. (Then vote for the next market and repeat until done).

This way we don't overcharge any civ or market.

I think is as useful as simple idea.


EDITED: I have to start reading the date of the posts...