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Mr Historical
Jun 27, 2008, 04:03 AM
I thought this might be interstng.....
starting off
BBC-NATO/UK
Microsoft-USA
Wal-mart-USA
ExxonMobil-USA
BP-UK/NATO
GAZPROM-MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....Russia:lol:
CNN-USA

Joe Harker
Jun 27, 2008, 07:47 AM
One of the major car companies could be an option (doesn't have to be American)

SoI
Jun 27, 2008, 10:40 AM
I think that some kind of weaponry could be made accessible by coorporations representing three main world arms: sellers US, Russia(Rosoboroneksport?), and France

Joe Harker
Jun 27, 2008, 11:03 AM
^^^ And Britain as well (not thats anything to be particulary proud about :p)

Lord Civius
Jun 27, 2008, 01:39 PM
Here are the top 10 world corporations, though they are mostly oil companies.

1. Wal-Mart Stores
Global 500 rank: 1 (Previous rank: 2)
2006 Revenues (millions): $351,139
Headquarters: Bentonville, AR
Country: U.S.
Get quote: WMT

2. Exxon Mobil
Global 500 rank: 2 (Previous rank: 1)
2006 Revenues (millions): $347,254
Headquarters: Irving, TX
Country: U.S.
Get quote: XOM

3. Royal Dutch Shell
Global 500 rank: 3 (Previous rank: 3)
2006 Revenues (millions): $318,845
Headquarters: The Hague
Country: Netherlands
Get quote: RDSA

4. BP
Global 500 rank: 4 (Previous rank: 4)
2006 Revenues (millions): $274,316
Headquarters: London
Country: Britain
Get quote: BP

5. General Motors
Global 500 rank: 5 (Previous rank: 5)
2006 Revenues (millions): $207,349
Headquarters: Detroit, MI
Country: U.S.
Get quote: GM

6. Toyota Motor
Global 500 rank: 6 (Previous rank: 8)
2006 Revenues (millions): $204,746
Headquarters: Toyota
Country: Japan
Get quote: TM

7. Chevron
Global 500 rank: 7 (Previous rank: 6)
2006 Revenues (millions): $200,567
Headquarters: San Ramon, CA
Country: U.S.
Get quote: CVX

8. DaimlerChrysler
Global 500 rank: 8 (Previous rank: 7)
2006 Revenues (millions): $190,191
Headquarters: Stuttgart
Country: Germany
Get quote: DCX

9. ConocoPhillips
Global 500 rank: 9 (Previous rank: 10)
2006 Revenues (millions): $172,451
Headquarters: Houston, TX
Country: U.S.
Get quote: COP

10. Total
Global 500 rank: 10 (Previous rank: 12)
2006 Revenues (millions): $168,357
Headquarters: Courbevoie
Country: France
Get quote: TOT

Amogos
Jun 29, 2008, 10:51 AM
I like the idea and I like the lists, but we need one company for ever subject:

1. Electronics - Microsoft :badcomp:
2. General Goods - Wal-Mart :king:
3. Foods - ?
4. Construction - ?
5. Military - PMC of some sort :espionage:
6. Transportation/vehicles - Toyota Motor?
7. Oil and Fuels - Shell?

They all should make money regardless of where they are but to gain good profit they need the right location or resource. Microsoft makes money in developed and rich cities; Wal-Mart needs both poor and middle class cities to earn money; the food company makes money with wheat, rice, ect... anything that grows; Construction companies make lots of money in undeveloped cities and, if there is a trade rout can produce an artificial production if the land around the city is undeveloped; PMCs makes money from revolting cities, unhappy cities and cites in a country at war; the transportation company works with the oil and fuel company and both make money from big rich cities with lots of routes near by and require oil.

Mr Historical
Jun 29, 2008, 03:52 PM
Given the importance of media in todays world, I cant help but feel we should include the bbc,cnn,cctv,al-jazeera in some way.

Mr Historical
Jun 29, 2008, 03:54 PM
:pand France
Exocet!

Amogos
Jun 29, 2008, 07:53 PM
Right, media, I forgot. So eight corporations? If anyone has specific companies or other subjects please say something. BTW a mining corp goes under fuels and construction.

Lord Civius
Jul 01, 2008, 11:47 AM
Time Warner is the worlds larget media corporation. They also own CNN so either would suffice.

Joe Harker
Jul 02, 2008, 04:04 AM
Yeah, but we don't want to many US corps so i would suggest a foreign media corp like the BBC (not that i am biased having worked for them :mischief:)

Lord Civius
Jul 03, 2008, 11:58 PM
Yeah, but we don't want to many US corps so i would suggest a foreign media corp like the BBC (not that i am biased having worked for them :mischief:)

I agree, I would suggest:
US- 2 N. America
Walmart (Goods)
Microsoft (Technology)

Japan- 1 Far East Asia
Toyota (Transportation)

UK- 1 Europe
BBC (Media)

Saudi Arabia - 1 Middle East
Saudi Arabian Oil Co. (Energy)

South Africa- 1 Africa
Standard Bank Group (?Banking?)

Brazil- 1 S. America
Cosan Industria (Agriculture/Biofuels)

Tough one for Africa, it is the Continents largest corporation. Maybe a Diamond (Gems) company would fit better?

Mr Historical
Jul 04, 2008, 11:47 AM
I agree, I would suggest:
US- 2 N. America
Walmart (Goods)
Microsoft (Technology)

Japan- 1 Far East Asia
Toyota (Transportation)

UK- 1 Europe
BBC (Media)

Saudi Arabia - 1 Middle East
Saudi Arabian Oil Co. (Energy)

South Africa- 1 Africa
Standard Bank Group (?Banking?)

Brazil- 1 S. America
Cosan Industria (Agriculture/Biofuels)

Tough one for Africa, it is the Continents largest corporation. Maybe a Diamond (Gems) company would fit better?

Sounds good,but we need a way to show the imporatance of energy supplies
and their effect on diplomacy.Any Ideas?

Joe Harker
Jul 04, 2008, 01:23 PM
Well, you could have some kind of relationship modifier that said "You have supplied us with Oil for many years +2 relations" Also you need to make AI trade when annoyed (but stop trading when Furious) otherwise some countries won't have any oil. You need to get a fair amount of gold per turn for it as well.

Ideally I would quite like the resources to become quantative like what GO is working at now, so you get a supply of oil from each well to power cities and units, and thus as the world gets more dependant on oil you get less oil in surplus and thus the price goes up, but how you would program it i don't know!

hevehoc
Jul 05, 2008, 02:42 AM
(can i write here?) anyway i thought of like communications with something like Sony Ericsson, Samsung, Nokia or something like that. Maybe makes money in large cities with power.

NikNaks
Jul 05, 2008, 04:29 AM
I don't think it's out of the question to have more corporations, possibly lowering their bonuses and their impact on inflation.

Lord Civius
Jul 05, 2008, 08:37 AM
I don't think it's out of the question to have more corporations, possibly lowering their bonuses and their impact on inflation.

We could start off with 7 founded Corporations and add a few unfounded ones with some near future technologies.

hevehoc
Jul 05, 2008, 11:13 AM
what about competition? there is always competing corporations although i can't figure any way of making several corporations on the same line.

EDIT: just thought of minor corporations, it's not always the bigger ones that make influence.

hevehoc
Jul 06, 2008, 02:35 PM
I found a list of companies by revenue in wikipedia if it is to any use


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_by_revenue#cite_note-2

Echo427
Jul 07, 2008, 04:56 PM
Why not the Swiss Bank or Sony for Banking and Technology respectively

ianinsane
Jul 08, 2008, 03:09 AM
There is no corporation named "Swiss Bank".

hevehoc
Jul 08, 2008, 03:22 AM
As i can see it on the wikipedia list Dexia is the largest banking company Which is from Belgium.

Bastian-Bux
Jul 08, 2008, 11:51 AM
What about food? Nestle or some other major food corp?

hevehoc
Jul 08, 2008, 02:48 PM
What do we mean with food? Food Processing or supermarket chains (couldn't figure out a better name)? anyway if food processing i agree with the one over me (Nestlé). :agree:

Stalin_Bulldog
Jul 08, 2008, 03:49 PM
I might suggest swapping out microsoft for IBM, it is a much larger company in terms of revenue, employees, and world presence.

In terms of food, look at either Nestle, a huge company, or the dutch conglomerate Delhaize... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delhaize_Group

hevehoc
Jul 09, 2008, 02:58 AM
[QUOTE=Stalin_Bulldog;7013548]I might suggest swapping out microsoft for IBM, it is a much larger company in terms of revenue, employees, and world presence. QUOTE]

Hewlett Packard seems to be bigger than IBM by revenue, but IBM seems to be bigger by more employees and market capitalization. But Microsoft is the most known company (i think), but still IBM is larger so i think we'll use that.

Mr Historical
Jul 10, 2008, 02:17 PM
How about using oil in the same way as colonies in civ3.You can place oil plant on oil resourses,guarateeing you power and fuel for tanks/veichles and railways.BUT if demand exceeds supply your units will be able to move less?and railways may be disabled.Of course you can nationalise,seizing oil plants of a different nationality
PS you have to pay to be in other countries.......usually

hevehoc
Jul 10, 2008, 02:24 PM
Sounds good!

westamastaflash
Jul 13, 2008, 07:18 AM
How about General Dynamics or Raytheon for the military corporation? They're huge.

sheep21
Jul 21, 2008, 10:40 AM
may I suggest switching the UK Corporation BBC, a goverment owned media company for BAE Systems, with an annual profit of £1.4 Billion last year.

if you were to do one for the EU, i would suggest Airbus, worlds second largest Civil Aircraft manufacturer

Joe Harker
Jul 21, 2008, 01:51 PM
may I suggest switching the UK Corporation BBC, a goverment owned media company for BAE Systems,

BBC is government subsidised NOT owned, BAE systems is also government subsidised, plus BBC has more influnence over the rest of the world than BAE systems, if you want a big British company maybe Shell or one of the major banks could be an option.

sheep21
Jul 21, 2008, 02:45 PM
BBC is government subsidised NOT owned, BAE systems is also government subsidised, plus BBC has more influnence over the rest of the world than BAE systems, if you want a big British company maybe Shell or one of the major banks could be an option.



The British Goverent have one share in BAE for £1, BAE is no longer a state owned buisness.
The BBC is funded by the licence fee, a form of taxation in a way, and is governed by a Royal Charter that is reviewed every ten years by the goverment. It is independent of the goverment but funded by the tax payer, BAE is owned by its sharholders, of which the goverment has one share and makes a large profit in various defence industries across the globe (they own the company that makes the Bradley fighting vehicle in current US service), manufacturing weapons systems in service across the globe.

edit: shell is dutch as i recall, best bet for a UK oil company would be BP

Joe Harker
Jul 22, 2008, 03:55 AM
shell is dutch as i recall,

It's both Dutch and British

And i still think BBC is a better choice. It is more well known than BAE systems

Mr Historical
Jul 26, 2008, 02:16 PM
the largest broadcasting company in the world against not the biggest arms manufacturer.BBC!

sheep21
Jul 29, 2008, 10:17 AM
the largest broadcasting company in the world against not the biggest arms manufacturer.BBC!

I bow to consensus opinion on the matter :)