Well, this is just impossible. No priests = no inquisition = no religious victory.

A few months ago, Kael said that this would probably stay in later versions, because the CoE is a secretive religion that doesn't run around announcing itself by burning people for heresy. Fair enough. Also, since it's so easy to spread, it would make for a really quick and boring game. Also true.

However, I can't imagine them not wanting to rule the world as a kind of shadow government, so it seems like there should be a way to accomplish this. Plus, there are other ways to corrupt or control a local religious organization. You could always use bribery or corruption or assassination to discredit a religion and it's followers in the eyes of the locals.

It shouldn't be impossible, it should just be harder, to help balance out how easy it is to spread. Easier to spread, harder to dominate with.

Maybe they need an alternative way of doing what inquisition does, like a new special ability, only for balance sake, there would have to be some changes:


Make it rare
Make it time consuming
Make it expensive


If only one unit (or very few) has it, then it will be harder to remove religions than it is to spread yours.

If it takes four or five, it will take longer to remove than spread.

If it costs money . . . well, why wouldn't it? It's the whole point of the religion. You could pay to discredit the religion, and the city turns to Esus instead.

Anyway, this is my first time using CoE, and I'm having fun with it otherwise.

Druids can use the inquisition ability. Just make sure you aren't playing an evil civ and you can use Druids in place of normal priests for inquisition.

Also, send your shadows to spread religion like mad. If you have a strong economy then 25g is not that much money (plus you are getting another +1g/turn for each city you spread CoE too). Build the bazaar of mammon in your holy city ;)

Al

Ironically, I just won a religious victory with CoE (playing the Evil Elves).

Wasn't intentional though. I was just a few cities away from a Conquest victory... I knew I should have saved the Grigori for last!

CoE really needs some units and buildings associated with it for me to be interested in it. Not priests or temples, certainly, but something like a secret meeting hall and agents of some sort to carry out nefarious bidding. These agents could have an ability similar to inquisition, just make it cost gold.

Druids can use the inquisition ability. Just make sure you aren't playing an evil civ and you can use Druids in place of normal priests for inquisition.

Also, send your shadows to spread religion like mad. If you have a strong economy then 25g is not that much money (plus you are getting another +1g/turn for each city you spread CoE too). Build the bazaar of mammon in your holy city ;)

Al

Actually, any unit that is following CoE can spread it, if you use the nightwatches, just make sure that you reveal thier nationality.

If a religious victory option were implemented for CoE, it ought to be based on percent of living units who follow CoE, rather than percent of the world's Cities which have it. Could actually be kind of nice to switch all of them to work that way, but it would have to be a fairly low percent (35%?) or the chance of gaining a religion in a city would need to be ramped up (as well as evenly weighted among all religions, instead of CoE being the least likely)

Actually, I can imagine the Council getting a Inqusition effect quit easly. They bribe mayor/govaner to throwout every other religion.

Actually, any unit that is following CoE can spread it, if you use the nightwatches, just make sure that you reveal thier nationality.

Yeah I know ;)

I just use shadows incase the opposing player starts utilising CoE to produce his own HN units. My shadows would not care as they are invisible :D... unless there is something to reveal them :(

Al

Druids can use the inquisition ability.

I'm playing Faeryl, and I'm trying to wipe out the Fellowship of Leaves . . . using druids to do that seems weird, to say the least. Plus, getting a religious victory by switching religions seems a little off.

Out of curiosity, what religion would I have to switch to if I wanted to be neutral?

Rok, or Empyrean.

Since you want to end up in CoE, you could also do a double-switch to Order then CoE if RoK and Empy haven't been founded.