View Full Version : What's a fair price for Colonization?


VLGoldenJew
Jul 15, 2008, 09:26 AM
I saw a thread on the forum that one site has Colonization as 18 euros, which is about $29 USD (according to today's exchange rate).

I think $30 is right on the money, no pun intended, but I worry they'll price it at $40 or even $50. I'm concerned that all of the marketing messaging of this being a "all new game" despite relying on the Civ 4 engine is rationalization to charge more.

What do you think a fair price for Colonization is? And will you buy it regardless of the price point?

r_rolo1
Jul 15, 2008, 09:58 AM
No more than 20€......

And will probably buy it , even if to port that beautiful water to Civ IV ;)

cephalo
Jul 15, 2008, 11:48 AM
It'll be worth it. I'm a big fan of the old game, and if I'm willing to pay 50 bucks for any game, that one would be one of them.

Hian the Frog
Jul 15, 2008, 12:33 PM
No more than 20€......

AmazonQueen
Jul 15, 2008, 01:40 PM
If its as good as the original game was and as different from Civ IV as the original was from Civ II its worth £30 (average price of a new game when it hits the shelves of my local gamestore here) but I shall be very happy if its less than that.

Chuggi
Jul 15, 2008, 09:12 PM
I think it should be just a bit cheaper than a regular new release (maybe $20 less or something). It should be more than $30 anyway (I don't think there's a lot of difference between American and Australian dollars these days).

Toni1
Jul 15, 2008, 11:37 PM
Up to 30€ depending on new features and content but no more than that.

TyranusBonehead
Jul 16, 2008, 01:21 PM
$30 would be best, but I'd be willing to spend up to $50 to get the Colonization game

Mivo
Jul 16, 2008, 03:28 PM
This sounds odd, but I don't actually care. No, I'm not rich, but the Colonization remake is going to be one of those games that I'm likely to play for many hours, just like Civ. So in the long run, it doesn't really matter if it costs 20, 30 or 50 euros -- I'll buy it anyway. :)

But I expect it'll be around 30 euros. That's also the price my game store here in Germany lists. Release date seems to be September 11th. (Curious choice.)

jselsmark
Jul 17, 2008, 01:27 AM
I'll probably be around 40$ (with the current dollar price) at least that would be the max I'd be willing to pay... unless they move the realese closer to or earlier than my birthday... then my parents will finally know what to give me that isn't socks and underwear. *LOL*

ChristofferC
Jul 17, 2008, 01:37 AM
Around 300 SEK (32€, $50)

Lubricus
Jul 17, 2008, 04:45 AM
I'll happily pay 300 NOK (almost $60 nowadays). But if it's priced low enough in the US, I'll import it - there is no toll on items worth less than 200 NOK (~$40), so it will probably be cheaper. Yes, I live in an expensive country...

akadyer
Jul 17, 2008, 07:30 AM
i'd pay 100 dollars AUD (61 Euro's according to google), civ 4 cost me that much and this to me is a full game not an xpac.

thadian
Jul 17, 2008, 09:13 AM
i will buy it for 20 US dollars, and not a penny more.

Its not my fault that inflated prices does not mean inflated wages.

I guess we are entering an era of being a lower-second world nation where our people are basic economic slaves without purchasing power. 20 dollars tops, but i see it being priced for 40, as BTS was priced at 45 in my area (indiana).

Sisko
Jul 17, 2008, 09:29 AM
Since they advertise it as a standalone expansion i expect no more the the price for an expansion.(€20-30 .) But I would pay a full game price (€50,-) if i had to. After 14 years of waiting finally a new colonization, and then i would leave it because of the price, i don't think so.

BUT, if the price is full price i want them to call the game Sid Meiers:Colonization 2 and not Sid Meiers:Civilization 4: Colonization

Minmaster
Jul 17, 2008, 07:45 PM
no more than $20 USD. if more, then i'll torrent it.

Mivo
Jul 19, 2008, 04:22 PM
i will buy it for 20 US dollars, and not a penny more. Its not my fault that inflated prices does not mean inflated wages.

Well, I look at the entertainment value. Games tend to seem expensive, but if you consider how many hours of entertainment you get out of them, and compare this to, i.e. movie DVDs or books, they are often pretty good or at least fair deals. This is especially true for a game like Civ (any version) and, presumably, the Colonization remake. I'll probably clock hundreds of hours. Even at fifty or sixty euros (which it won't cost), that'd still be a lot of entertainment for the money. More than I get from paperback novels (hours of entertainment per euro), and I usually consider those to be a fair deal (it's different with hardcover books, but I sometimes buy even those if I can't wait for a sequel to a much loved novel). It's different with movies here in Europe. I don't pay twenty euro for a 90 minutes movie (it's cheaper in the US, I know). But Colonization? You know you'll play it for many, many hours. :)

Chuggi
Jul 19, 2008, 04:43 PM
Well said! :goodjob:

DroopyTofu
Jul 19, 2008, 08:29 PM
Civ IV was $50 (USD) at the begining of '08, and it came out in what, 2004?
So if they are using Civ IV and Sid Meyer in the name, they will probabally charge $50 or more, if anything, for the name(kinda like iPods;))
But even Sid has to pay 4 dollars (or more) for gas.

jediliz
Jul 19, 2008, 09:55 PM
well, if its a fairly big release, I would bet it'll be on sale for $24.99 or better a few days after it comes out.

Since its a stand alone, and not an expansion, maybe $24.99 will be the price. At least I hope so.

Drakan
Jul 20, 2008, 03:05 AM
I don't mind paying 50 USD for it. I hope it comes in a big cardboard box -as the original- and not in one of those horrible plastic cases.

Fabien
Jul 20, 2008, 06:20 AM
It's labaled as being 49 CHF (around 45 USD) in Switzerland. I'll buy it anyway, so the price really won't matter for me.

NHJ BV
Jul 21, 2008, 05:47 AM
I'll pay full price for it, assuming reviews aren't overly negative about it. That would be just over 40 euros, usually.

editL play.co.uk lists it as just over 25 euros

magpie_robert
Jul 21, 2008, 11:03 AM
Amazon UK and Play.com have it for pre-order at £17.98 and £17.99 (25.49 Euro) respectively. The recommended price is £29.99

GoodGame
Aug 15, 2008, 09:23 AM
Probably $30. It still feels like just an expansion.

Lord Shadow
Aug 15, 2008, 11:34 AM
I think 30 USD should be appropriate.

VirginiaRounder
Aug 15, 2008, 03:24 PM
"Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it."

-Publius Syrus

Onionsoilder
Aug 15, 2008, 03:32 PM
I would pay about $30. I really want it, but I simply can't afford $50. If it is any more then $35 I will probably end up getting a torrent for it.

Jerrymander
Aug 15, 2008, 03:54 PM
Anything over $20 for software is highway robbery.

Lord Shadow
Aug 15, 2008, 04:16 PM
Anything over $20 for software is highway robbery.
That's a bit of a stretch. :rolleyes:

Jerrymander
Aug 15, 2008, 04:19 PM
That's a bit of a stretch. :rolleyes:

Yes, it is.

Smidlee
Aug 15, 2008, 04:27 PM
Colonization at $50 will probably be a better deal than the $60 I paid for Rev.
Art is expensive so I wouldn't mind paying full price ($40-$50) with it's improved graphics over civ4.

Knut_Are_M
Aug 15, 2008, 11:25 PM
50 £. or 500 nok or 90 us dollars, yeah i would still buy it.
Ps games usually cost around 500 nok in Norway, which equals to about
85 dollars/ 45 £ .

Minmaster
Aug 16, 2008, 04:18 PM
you guys are crazy, i ain't paying over $20 for a game that is pretty much an expansion pack disguised as a brand new game. i won't support those kinds of greedy marketing schemes.

Lord Shadow
Aug 16, 2008, 05:28 PM
How is it an expansion pack? Is it because it uses the same engine? Do you know how many games used the Quake3 engine? Or the Unreal one? I really don't see the 'greedy marketing scheme' here. :undecide:

And besides, not even expansions cost 20 dollars on release.

Greybriar
Aug 16, 2008, 06:41 PM
I think the $29.99 price at GameStop (http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=72365) and Electronics Boutique (http://www.ebgames.com/browse/search.aspx?N=140&Ntk=TitleKeyword&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntt=Colonization) is very affordable. Especially considering it will come in a box and most likely with a printed paper manual, I'd say the price is quite fair.

Minmaster
Aug 17, 2008, 08:29 PM
How is it an expansion pack? Is it because it uses the same engine? Do you know how many games used the Quake3 engine? Or the Unreal one? I really don't see the 'greedy marketing scheme' here. :undecide:

And besides, not even expansions cost 20 dollars on release.

it's basically a mod, or at best a total conversion mod. it's not a brand new game.

cephalo
Aug 17, 2008, 09:52 PM
it's basically a mod, or at best a total conversion mod. it's not a brand new game.

If you've ever played the origional, you'd know that it's almost nothing like Civ.

Lord Shadow
Aug 18, 2008, 08:00 AM
If you've ever played the origional, you'd know that it's almost nothing like Civ.
Indeed.

The interface looks similar on occasion, but as cephalo said, the game itself is completely different from Civilization.

SoonerNation
Aug 20, 2008, 07:01 PM
I would say a fair price (considering the graphics) would be between $30 and $35. I don't think it would be worth the $50 I paid for Civilization IV.

thelibra
Aug 21, 2008, 08:13 AM
You know, if they made Civ5, and charged $100USD I'd probably still buy it. Each release of Civ has given me so many hours of fun, for so many years on end, that the average cost has been something less than a penny an hour. You can't find entertainment that cheap, with that kind of staying power, anywhere.

Considering how much fun I have with FreeCol, and how many hours I've put into playing it, I fully expect Colonization to give me endless hours of fun for years on end. I'd pay as much as $60USD for it easily, but I hope it'll be priced as an expansion because I'm a cheap bastage.

morchuflex
Aug 21, 2008, 11:26 AM
You know, if they made Civ5, and charged $100USD I'd probably still buy it. Each release of Civ has given me so many hours of fun, for so many years on end, that the average cost has been something less than a penny an hour. You can't find entertainment that cheap, with that kind of staying power, anywhere.

Exactly. Considering how much fun the Civ franchise has given me over the last 15 years, I wouldn't really mind paying up to one month of my salary for another great game. After all, that's what my fiancee's ring cost me, and her entertainment value is nowhere near that of Civ4.

Lord Shadow
Aug 21, 2008, 12:54 PM
Exactly. Considering how much fun the Civ franchise has given me over the last 15 years, I wouldn't really mind paying up to one month of my salary for another great game. After all, that's what my fiancee's ring cost me, and her entertainment value is nowhere near that of Civ4.
:lol:

She better not read that!

ACEofHeart
Aug 21, 2008, 09:49 PM
Since it runs with an game graphics engine already designed (civ4) ...I think asking for more than a normal expansion would be a mistake.. The economy is already pretty rough....

morchuflex
Aug 22, 2008, 06:40 AM
:lol:

She better not read that!
When she's around and I'm not using my PC, I keep it password-protected. ;)

thelibra
Aug 22, 2008, 10:05 AM
Exactly. Considering how much fun the Civ franchise has given me over the last 15 years, I wouldn't really mind paying up to one month of my salary for another great game. After all, that's what my fiancee's ring cost me, and her entertainment value is nowhere near that of Civ4.

Hah! That's great!!! :lol:

As fair warning, they only get more expensive. My wife has cost me roughly as much as her ring, in luxuries, every year. Just think of it as a bill for services rendered, and it makes it a lot easier to deal with.

I don't know if I'd pay a whole month's salary for Civ 5, as I didn't even pay that much for my computer. I'd probably wait and see what the crowd here says. If they were all like OMGCIV5FTW!!! then I might save up for it.

morchuflex
Aug 22, 2008, 04:15 PM
As fair warning, they only get more expensive. My wife has cost me roughly as much as her ring, in luxuries, every year.
Ouch. Then again, why do we have, once in a while, to feel the need for a real life? :rolleyes: