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Rhye Jul 22, 2008, 03:55 AM Rhye's and Fall RAND is a project that tries to offer something halfway between RFC and standard Civ. All the great additions of RFC, such as stability, historical spawn dates, congresses, victory conditions and the UPs are in!
DOWNLOAD
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10152
INSTALLATION
• Extract the files contained in the zip in ...your Civ4 folder...\BTS\Mods\
• Start Civilization, go to ADVANCED, then LOAD A MOD, select Rhye’s and Fall RAND
• After the mod loads, choose PLAY NOW!, Rhyes_Terra, and then you can set your preferences
WARNING: if you want to use CUSTOM GAME, please read carefully the “Custom Game” paragraph at the bottom of the readme.
xmen510 Jul 22, 2008, 09:42 AM Great news. Looking forward to it.
Metal Alloy Man Jul 22, 2008, 10:43 AM Great News! Unfortunately I won't be able to play until August 1st!:mad: Oh Well.
Al-Iskander Jul 22, 2008, 04:16 PM Whew, just barely back in America.
...except wait, I don't have a computer of my own yet.
CRAP! Contact the city governor, get him to whip me out a new computer, stat!
The Turk Jul 22, 2008, 09:37 PM i'll be waiting! Great Job Rhye!
Śmarth Jul 23, 2008, 06:36 AM I can't wait!
onedreamer Jul 24, 2008, 04:17 AM 4 days before we screw our summer holidays (if we live in the northern emisphere).
Shadowhal Jul 24, 2008, 04:21 AM if I may: how could I miss that for so long. this is in fact what I have wished for since I first played RFC. looks like a great job rhye!
a question: is it possible to play it on other map types for replayability? like the great plains setting, borelian or pangea maps? I take it the earth likeness factor will make sure we get plenty of different maps, but if it were possible, then it means all the more game varieties.
second question: any idea of what size the download might be?
Rhye Jul 24, 2008, 05:47 AM 1- no, all the maps generated have some hardcoded old/new world division which affect things like plague, conquerors, etc.
2- same as RFC
Al-Iskander Jul 24, 2008, 11:22 AM 1- no, all the maps generated have some hardcoded old/new world division which affect things like plague, conquerors, etc.
I can see this now, on Low Earth Likeness.
Your terrified little Mayan Civ is the runt and whipping-boy of The Old World. You're behind in almost every way, your military is tiny, you have no natural resources, and your only advantage? You somehow managed to beat everyone to Optics. Your one caravel is out there, desperately seeking something to explore, someone to trade with, anyone, and then you sight land! And it's Spain! And they're loaded with resources! And OHMYGOD you just popped Conquerors! You flood them with plague, shatter their capital, seize their wonders, scoop up their resources and proceed to rock out all the way back across the ocean to show your snotty Khmerian overlords who's really boss.
Payback's a b***h :D
Rhye Jul 24, 2008, 06:53 PM Let me explain.
The Rhyes_Terra map type does check that continents are enough distant, and assign the label "new world" to one or two continents.
Plague, conquerors and everything apply to any civ that spawns in the new world. In low likeliness, there's usually some other civ other than mesoamericans. Instead, barbarians spawn in the old world.
Any other map type wouldn't mark continents that way.
Śmarth Jul 25, 2008, 05:19 PM Turns out I'll be getting my new laptop on monday too; I'll christen it with a game of RAND.
Phallus Jul 27, 2008, 06:12 PM Hooray! (later)
Hitti-Litti Jul 28, 2008, 05:12 AM Hooray!
xcl
Barak Jul 28, 2008, 06:56 AM Rhye any eta on RAND?
onedreamer Jul 28, 2008, 07:57 AM It's the final countdown !!
Zdarg Jul 28, 2008, 08:47 AM -8... :) :)
xmen510 Jul 28, 2008, 08:56 AM The Desert is long. Hoping for a "Random" Oasis to pop up and quench my thirst.
:)
The Turk Jul 28, 2008, 09:47 AM IS IT OUT YET??:eek:
Hitti-Litti Jul 28, 2008, 09:57 AM NO, IT IS NOT!!:eek:
AnotherPacifist Jul 28, 2008, 10:03 AM It'll be out when it's ready (23:59 Greenwich time). :lol:
AnotherPacifist Jul 28, 2008, 10:04 AM double post, sorry
Zdarg Jul 28, 2008, 10:05 AM The Desert is long.
:) Well, Moises did drive his people through the desert fo 40 years (how many turns it is?) We russians love to mention this story everyday for a reason or not.
The Turk, it's mouve ton to ask such questions. Just wait, like we all do. It's still Monday...Though, it will be Tuesday in two hours where I am, but it's my problem.
AnotherPacifist Jul 28, 2008, 10:13 AM It'll be out when it's ready (23:59 Central European Time=Italy)...:p
The Turk Jul 28, 2008, 10:17 AM ah sorry, because I'm in Canada at the moment and I thought it was coming out on Monday (today)
onedreamer Jul 28, 2008, 10:44 AM The Turk, it's mouve ton to ask such questions. Just wait, like we all do. It's still Monday...Though, it will be Tuesday in two hours where I am, but it's my problem.
Vladivostok ?
Barak Jul 28, 2008, 10:45 AM Um, it is Monday in Italy. Europe is ahead of North America
xmen510 Jul 28, 2008, 10:47 AM It's about 5:45pm in Italy right now, isn't it?
Zdarg Jul 28, 2008, 10:54 AM Vladivostok ?Novosibirsk.
I am +6 from Greenwich, and Vladivostok is about +9 from Greenwich, I suppose.
Rhye is +1 from Greenwich, right?
Danwood Jul 28, 2008, 10:56 AM i'am sure Rhye is going to upload it... i can feel it...
strong with me is the Force :scan:
Danwood Jul 28, 2008, 10:59 AM in Italy it's 5.58 pm now
we waited for weeks, we can wait for few hours i suppose :D
Jimman Jul 28, 2008, 11:01 AM so we got at most 6 hours?
Zdarg Jul 28, 2008, 11:13 AM i'am sure Rhye is going to upload it... i can feel it...
I can't.
It was very bad day for me, my local network died at early morning because of lightning, and when I arrived to work, I found my mafia game was almost ruined by some rule ignorance. At the moment, I knew all other stuff will go wrong today. If you are unlucky for a day, then you are. Sorry people. :)
Danwood Jul 28, 2008, 11:30 AM I can't.
It was very bad day for me, my local network died at early morning because of lightning, and when I arrived to work, I found my mafia game was almost ruined by some rule ignorance. At the moment, I knew all other stuff will go wrong today. If you are unlucky for a day, then you are. Sorry people. :)
Use the Force, my young padawan...
Rhye Jul 28, 2008, 11:35 AM Up now! Have fun
Jimman Jul 28, 2008, 11:37 AM woohoo ive been waiting ages for this
xmen510 Jul 28, 2008, 11:38 AM Great news. Thanks again Rhye.
Genghis Tron Jul 28, 2008, 11:41 AM I think I'll be leaving work early this afternoon. :mischief:
Cant wait to try it.
Edungeon Jul 28, 2008, 11:42 AM Yeah! \o/ Downloading...
Al-Iskander Jul 28, 2008, 11:43 AM Well, I still don't have my own computer, but I went ahead and (finally!) got BtS and installed it on my brother's :D
And now, downloading!
Jimman Jul 28, 2008, 11:58 AM it looks good, just started a game as rome and im waiting for it to load, and it turns out theres still UHVs but those corresponding to areas of the world map have been changed
thanks a lot Rhye!
Firestorm94 Jul 28, 2008, 01:04 PM :woohoo: Yes!, finally
Hitti-Litti Jul 28, 2008, 02:22 PM :dance::woohoo::dance:
Downloading!
Talkie_Toaster Jul 28, 2008, 02:25 PM Yes Yes Yes! Thank You!
Tboy Jul 28, 2008, 03:06 PM Halleluia! Downloading now...
The Turk Jul 28, 2008, 06:17 PM I downloaded the game, followed the insturctions to the letter, I saved it in BTS mods folder (unzipped it) loaded the mod, clicked single player, play now, but Rhye's Terra wasen't their?? Does anybody know what could have happend?
Oh and I even used english for the main language
sedna17 Jul 28, 2008, 06:41 PM It's possible you have an extra folder level (I did, and this created just the problem you describe).
I had:
/mods/RFCRAND100/Rhye's and Fall RAND/...
after unzipping the archive, so you might be "loading" the RFCRAND100 mod which doesn't actually do anything. Make sure the folder "Rhye's and Fall RAND" is directly inside the mods/ folder.
Lone Wolf Jul 28, 2008, 07:41 PM Downloading.
LoStNuMbEr Jul 28, 2008, 09:45 PM Someone please enlighten me of my ignorance, what is the difference between this and normal RFC?
Lone Wolf Jul 28, 2008, 10:10 PM Read the previews in the sub-forum...
JEELEN Jul 29, 2008, 04:51 AM Tried this out instantly!:goodjob:
The Turk Jul 30, 2008, 12:04 AM how come the china civ dosen't spawn as soon as the game starts?? Also is judaism set to be defulted to be made in egypt, why not in a independent civ?
onedreamer Jul 30, 2008, 03:18 AM the fact that there are no indipendents might be a good reason... btw why do you post this question here ?
rgroll Jul 30, 2008, 06:17 PM I am playing as the Dutch and after Carthage declares war on someone I get a request to join him in war which I refuse to do but he continues the request at every turn. I had this before and started a new game but the same thing happens. Looks like some kind of bug.
The Turk Jul 31, 2008, 08:19 AM me too, except the greeks kept asking for meditation for free EVERY SINGLE TURN!! i had to end up giving them the tech:lol:
AnotherPacifist Jul 31, 2008, 09:58 AM Nagging really works as in real life. I wouldn't mind it if they asked nicely. :)
Cethegus Aug 01, 2008, 09:34 AM Nagging really works as in real life. I wouldn't mind it if they asked nicely. :)
Sadly it doesn't matter whether they ask nice or not in Civ. All they care is whether you give them what they want or not.
As for RAND, I hadn't heard about it until recently. How could I have missed such big news? This is wonderful addition!
The Turk Aug 01, 2008, 11:11 AM I don't think it was any addition, I think it was only a bug:lol:
Metal Alloy Man Aug 02, 2008, 01:54 PM This is amazing, just downloaded yesterday.
onedreamer Aug 06, 2008, 05:13 AM As for RAND, I hadn't heard about it until recently. How could I have missed such big news? This is wonderful addition!
well, that's because it has been released at the end of July. It still need polishing.
I don't think it was any addition, I think it was only a bug:lol:
he was referring to the release of RFC RAND.
Bob III Aug 16, 2008, 09:59 PM Edit: I put this in bugs instead.
Looks good so far, Rhye.
Chuggi Oct 10, 2008, 11:39 PM I was wondering, does this feature culturally linked starting places?
Al-Iskander Oct 11, 2008, 10:09 AM I was wondering, does this feature culturally linked starting places?
Depends on which "Earth Likeness" you choose. On "High," everyone starts in what you would probably recognize as "linked" starting places, but the lower you go the more random it gets.
Lark Oct 27, 2008, 01:24 PM I had the same problem as The Turk and sedna17 upthread - I followed the instruction in the readme -- "Extract the files contained in the zip in ...your Civ4 folder...\BTS\Mods\" -- and ended up with a 'RFCRAND110' mod which did not work. The Windows zip extractor was helpful, you see.
Can I talk you into changing the wording a little?
If the quoted line read "Extract the 'Rhye's and Fall RAND' folder files from the zip file into your Civ4 BTS mods folder - e.g., to '...\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rhye's and Fall RAND\', then I would have understood and would have had to find something else to misread.
&Thanks to The Turk and sedna17 for posting.
Chiyochan Dec 30, 2008, 11:52 AM this could use alot more information i still dont quite understand how this works, is it just a new map where people appear randomly?
onedreamer Dec 30, 2008, 01:13 PM did you actually read the pdf documentation that comes with the mod ?
dragodon64 Jun 15, 2009, 07:03 PM When I loaded up the mod for the first time, "Play Now" was grayed out. Unloading and reloading didn't seem to help. Should I re-install the mod or try something else? Also, would this be considered a "bug"?
JujuLautre Jun 18, 2009, 07:53 PM I did not use rand since some time, but I believe you have to go through the "custom game" menu.
dragodon64 Jun 18, 2009, 09:50 PM Well, the pdf said to go with play now, but i also tried custom game, with some really screwed up results. i lost the moment the game started (no settler, just a popup saying something like TXT_DEFEAT_2) when I got to see the 0 turn history, the map was all grasslands, with some 1 tile lakes and random rivers.
youtien Aug 26, 2009, 01:12 PM I can't find it!
youtien Aug 26, 2009, 01:20 PM http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10152&act=down
The link is broken, or is it my problem?
Rhye Aug 26, 2009, 05:26 PM yeah, civfanatics.net seems to be down
BurnEmDown Aug 26, 2009, 05:41 PM That link isn't working for me, but I downloaded the patch just fine, maybe you can find another link?
Metal Alloy Man Aug 30, 2009, 01:57 PM Doesn't work for me either, just downloads old one.
Rhye Aug 30, 2009, 04:15 PM it seems to work
Metal Alloy Man Aug 30, 2009, 04:37 PM Yeah, it's working now.
ilduce349 Sep 30, 2009, 07:23 AM i have a problem, every time i try to load rand civ 4 unexpectedly quits, i am using 3.17 so do i have to use 3.19 to play rand?
if i do i am :):):):)ed, for i just tried installing 3.19 for the 7th time and like the other 6 times it failed
ilduce349 Sep 30, 2009, 07:24 AM so thats how they block off swearing, with some stupid smiley faces:lol::lol::lol:
JujuLautre Sep 30, 2009, 08:51 AM yes, you have to use 3.19
Arkaeyn Sep 30, 2009, 12:06 PM Try downloading 3.19 directly from Firaxis' web site instead of through the in-game patcher.
ilduce349 Oct 03, 2009, 07:33 PM Arkaeyn, it worked, i can now play civ rand, however there is a new problem a new bug, the proble is after 5-10 turns, it quits unexpectedly, this has happened 4 times
Arkaeyn Oct 03, 2009, 07:35 PM I've had occasional crashes, but never consistently that early. No idea, sorry.
ilduce349 Oct 03, 2009, 08:26 PM hopefully rhye can take note of this bug, it has now happened 6 times, and fix, what i am doing now is saving every turn and when it crashes, which it has 2 in my current game, i am just reloading
Arkaeyn Oct 03, 2009, 08:44 PM Do other mods crash anywhere near as much? And which civs are you using?
JujuLautre Oct 03, 2009, 08:48 PM hopefully rhye can take note of this bug, it has now happened 6 times
If there is one thing for sure, it's that even if Rhye sees this he will not be able to fix anything unless he knows what to deal with.
You say "there is a bug" without actually giving any bit of information. At least post a save, otherwise it is useless. And it will give other people the possibility to check that this is indeed a bug by trying to reproduce it.
ilduce349 Oct 03, 2009, 10:33 PM Arkeayn this is the only mod that crashes, i have played romans 2, mayans 2, greeks 2
JujuLautre the bug is it crashes very early on, here is the save
229926
Rhye Oct 04, 2009, 06:22 PM tried it. No crash at all.
Metal Alloy Man Oct 06, 2009, 06:43 PM Is this supposed to happen? I haven't even built a city yet.
Fierabras Oct 07, 2009, 05:39 AM For this event to trigger you probably don't need a city. BTS random events just don't mix well with RFC and I don't include them in the game anymore. I have disabled them through XML (not custom game).
Ready_set_go Nov 14, 2009, 08:33 AM I don't know what happened, I don't have a save or replay or anything. I started the game, it loaded, but then it just starts off "You were defeated." Happened with the Americans once, and that's the only time it happened. Any ideas?
Ambassador Nov 20, 2009, 05:09 AM Maybe someone else won a UHV or other kind of victory. So you automatically got defeated.
Ready_set_go Nov 22, 2009, 06:45 AM Then they did it really early... happened first turn.
Off topic: What's the Arabic in your signature mean?
Ambassador Nov 27, 2010, 11:57 AM Only read your question now. It means: Do not take pride in loving your nation but in loving the whole world. It's a quote from the Baha'i scriptures.
Tambien Jul 18, 2011, 02:59 PM When will the 3.19 version come out?
merijn_v1 Jul 19, 2011, 06:23 AM It's already out for a long time.
Tambien Jul 20, 2011, 01:25 PM when I go to the download it says "3.17 version"
ImNotHere Jan 16, 2012, 10:27 PM Does this mod keep getting updated? Or is this the last version.
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