View Full Version : World War 2 : European Front


stalin006
Jul 31, 2002, 01:05 PM
Version 1.2, this time i noticed taht the axis nations started by
-450 gold, so i added some mines to bring more cash, i also did this to all other civs.

Here is my WW2 map, well i think is better than my other WW3 scenario :D , much batter, is based to start on Dec 1938, since the map editor cant let me do it so it starts on 1938 instead of 4000 bc, adn doesnt uncovers the map, i put an explorer of all 7 nations in switzerland so u can have fast communication and trade maps, i think is accurate to the maginot line, but if there is something that i should add tell me, so i can change it.
map from "el mencey" was used w/ permision.
well if u find something u dont like, something taht u really liked or even something tah u hated, write back k?

HAVE FUN.:crazyeye: :nuke: AND DONT FORGET TO COME BACK AND TELL ME WHAT U THINK ABOUT THE SCENARIO

PLAYABLE NATIONS: UK, AXIS, USSR, NEUTRALS, TURKEY,, FRANCE, SPAIN
original scenario replaced w/ version 1.1 after 38 downloads
version1.2 replaced after 41 downloads:o:tank:

Azale
Jul 31, 2002, 03:48 PM
I thought your ww3 map was pretty good stalin006 :D

Awesome ww2 scenario too.

stalin006
Jul 31, 2002, 04:03 PM
thanks azale

Revolutionairy
Jul 31, 2002, 05:49 PM
When I played it there was no other country then Russia and me(Spain). All the railroads and mines and stuff was there just the russians on the other side of europe were the only other nation. Might just be me but I thought you should know...

stalin006
Jul 31, 2002, 06:07 PM
??????? thats weird, when u started teh game did u made sure u were palying aginst 6 nations???????

Revolutionairy
Jul 31, 2002, 06:20 PM
yea

Ill try again...

stalin006
Jul 31, 2002, 06:23 PM
revolutionary i really cant find why it didnt worked, i tested it as every civ, maybe u put it to play it as only 2 players......well try version 1.1, i made some corrections on it ^_^

Revolutionairy
Jul 31, 2002, 06:49 PM
dont worry I found the problem

as soon as I got it all the players were SU
I fixed it now and it works great!
By the way the germans just burned Paris to the ground!!!!

stalin006
Jul 31, 2002, 06:57 PM
cool i am glad u found out what was wrong, if u find any other probalems e-mail me or contact me here ^_^

tctatheel7
Aug 02, 2002, 08:10 AM
You did a great job with such a crappy editor! You did as well as anyone could, the only problem i have with the scenario is the non-ability to set diplomacy with the editor. It feels weird to not know the map during WWII and not have the mpp's set (i'm used to civ 2 wwii scenarios). Also, does every city have to build riflemen at the start? Otherr than that, great job!

stalin006
Aug 02, 2002, 08:28 AM
thanks tctatheel, i know the limitations of the editor, i hope the Play the World expansion commes w/ more stuff, then i could make it more realistic ^_^

trepanier
Aug 02, 2002, 12:46 PM
I remarked Russia was democratic, not communist ?
And the dummy AI give you hundred of gp just for your map (plus workers... should be fair.)

There are too many units and it takes a long time to load. You should include also a saved game... with the proper alliances.

Also, Bulgaria, Romania and Hungary were on axis side, and all the neutrals altogether means you attack yougoslavia and swiss will counterattack...

Poland was England ally, so set it as brit. I will try to adapt your scenario.

michel :)

stalin006
Aug 02, 2002, 01:03 PM
this is an scenario taht started in 1938, well everyone is a critic and.....poland was also a allie of france!, it is not possible to make it so close w/ historic deatil, it cant be done w/ teh editor, include a svaed game? i tought of that, but it taeks time to make 7 different saved games for u to be able to play as any civ u want. also there has to be plenty of units, u dont expect to start w/ 10 panzers for germany and 2 batleships for uk, well is ok if u didnt liked it, the thing about russia will be changed, anyways if i did the thing w/ poland and made it english, then waht about russia? the had an non-agression pact, so it wouldn be any good either to have a axis-soviet allience would it?
and what did u meant w/ trying to adopt my scenario? u meant to change it and post it?..........mmmh.......cahgne a few things and post it as urs.......well maybe u can do ur own one from scratch.............it takes lots of patience to make one, well over all thanks for ur comments, ill see what i can do to change it all w/ this crapy editor, we can work this out to make it more realistic so w/b, and P.S. it doesnt take too long to download.......ive seen worst.;) , :p :)

trepanier
Aug 02, 2002, 03:14 PM
I just want to change a little bit your scenario to MY convience... I don't want to get glory for it!

Why are they so many negative money balance ? Adding bank will help ?

Any way to get wonders ? Maybe setting the price of old wonders to 1.. and luck will determinate what civ will get it
I hope the official expansion will reach the same quality for scenarii as civ2...

stalin006
Aug 02, 2002, 05:22 PM
if is for urself is ok, the old wonders is a good idea, specially for those that doesnt have any place like the hanging gardens, but ill let the piramids and others stay in their places.

LouLong
Aug 08, 2002, 06:28 PM
I liked the idea of going to scenarios again but :

I played as the Axis (usually most interesting) and won fairly quickly. I tried to play again raging war against everyone except Spain to replac for the lack of diplomacy in the editor but still won.

Question : Germany has no original base on the North sea. Is it so that Axis has to attack Denmark ?

stalin006
Aug 08, 2002, 07:10 PM
well in WW2 germany attacked denmark for its harbors and ship manufacturing factories.

Stormbringer
Aug 08, 2002, 09:16 PM
I made my own WWII European front scenario, but it won't start! I tryed everything, but I cannot figure out what the problem is! Can anyone help me?

pi8ch
Aug 09, 2002, 05:22 AM
Nice Szenario!

But you should have made a MOD out of it to fix the city graphics!

stalin006
Aug 09, 2002, 06:13 AM
well pi8ch thanks, i dont know if i should make it a mod, not really experienced w/ them, but i am thinking to re-do it when PTW comes out, i has new WW2 units.
Storm bringer i dont know what happened to it............mmmh......go to "Scenario" adn then click on "Reset player data", try that, it will change some stuff but it may help u, save a copy of the old version and test it. k?

Phoenix
Aug 24, 2002, 08:13 AM
Sounds good I'm downloading it now (I also liked your WW3 sen even though it took forever to load - not download: that was quick).

Phoenix
Aug 24, 2002, 08:19 AM
The only thing that I am going to change is to make Austria and Hungry to be seperate nations (or just Austria-Hungry - like in WWI) so that I can invade them as I feel that that was when the war started. Also I may join Poland with them. I will make sure that they have barley no defenders is any.

Still great sen!

stalin006
Aug 24, 2002, 09:21 AM
tahts fine, jsut dont post teh whole thing as urs k?

Phoenix
Aug 27, 2002, 11:42 AM
I have recently been making a sen' using a map that I downloaded a while back (forgot who from but its great). The map is of europe and it is set to huge. So I was making my sen for WWII and was placing the civs cities when I realised that the bombers wouldn't have much range (they couldn't bomb Berlin from London for example). So I tried to put the range up and found that it had a maximum range of about 8! What can i do to make the bombers have a long range?

cgannon64
Aug 28, 2002, 03:59 PM
I absolutely loved it! My favorite scenerio to grace this board so far (although I'm kind of biased, WW2 is my favorite period). Please make more historical scenerios, i love them! It's so fun to try to correct the mistakes people made in history (although in my game, Russia stalled my invasion...ends up I was concentrating too much on Africa...eerie?). Hope you do more!

stalin006
Aug 28, 2002, 06:00 PM
well i am happy u liked it :), have u tried my WW3 one? well ill do more scenarios when i get more time (school etc) plus i am waitning for the PTW expansion to make it more reallistic and accurate.

Zarn
Sep 02, 2002, 02:33 PM
I have three things to critize abiut. I don't want to put you down or anything. I just want to help.
1) Where's Canada
2) Where's the neutral U.S. (It was possible that the U.S. could have came in earlier
3) The nations Bulgaria, Romania, and Hungary JOINED the Axis after Germany invaded the Soviet Union.

stalin006
Sep 02, 2002, 05:26 PM
i know where this is going........no canada or the US are on the scenario......read the title :P adn yes those nations joined teh axis.....in 1941......this scenario srtarts in 1938, way before the war even started and tehre is simply no way the scenario editor of today can handle it, also if i had them already as part of teh axis, it would had been in 1941, and .......then i sohlud put pazers by moskow......and well. most peeps wanted this scenario as how to change the war from the begining and be victorious, i know what u mean, but the editor is simply to simple :P, but dont worry, when PTW comes ill make it in a world map and put everyone form canada to china ok? ^_^ thanks for downloading the scenario :P

Drynagolt
Sep 03, 2002, 03:58 PM
I'll hodl you top that Canada part. I am getting tired of seeing Canadian cities as part of "The United States of America" in every Scenario. I know why, the editor and all that, but just once I would like to play as my country.

stalin006
Sep 03, 2002, 04:47 PM
yeah i have noticed taht, but i cant make one for canada.....any historical scenarios? mmmh............french indian war is my posible thoughts..............

Azale
Sep 04, 2002, 04:33 PM
Lucky you,Dynagolt.There's a Canadian Alliance civ in my Present Times scenario.:D

stalin006,I find the Nuetral Nations easily conquered,perfect.;)

stalin006
Sep 04, 2002, 04:37 PM
yeah, thery were designed for taht...........russia.......is another story...........

petridish86
Sep 04, 2002, 06:21 PM
its be nice to see a screenshot of this, but ill d/l it anyway i think.

stalin006
Sep 04, 2002, 06:29 PM
sorry petridish86, i am bad w/ screenshots, but is a map of europe w/ borders as realsitic as i could

JoseM
Sep 15, 2002, 09:58 PM
this ww2 scenario is the best! this was the kind of scenario i wanted to play good job stalin :)

stalin006
Sep 16, 2002, 06:07 AM
thanks, not many people come back and tell me if they liked the scenario or vote either, ^_^ thansk JoseM

Phoenix
Sep 17, 2002, 11:39 AM
Ok, i've fixed the problem with the limited range of bombers: give them unlimited bombardment and then give them the option to bombard (and tell can still be shot down).

I am continuing to make my own sen' on that huge map and am about 60% done (I still have to do the greeks and the Soviets): Any advise Stalin?

stalin006
Sep 17, 2002, 04:18 PM
waht is the scenario about? and ill tell u ^_^, oh and PM me k?

Overlag
Sep 18, 2002, 04:06 AM
nice, but its a tad hard for the British Empire, with so few Cities, but then im not hitler, and wont make the mistake of attacking Russia first :rolleyes: and allowing the UK to build some forces :lol:

also, i know later in the war the germans had Jet aircraft, but i instantly upgraded all of my fighters to Jets......

only Paris to go and i have europe to myself, other than greece (UK), and spain (allie :D)

Maybe you could pack some units in for the UK somehow? to simulate the Americas helping?

also, i know it gets harder the bigger the map, but why use the smaller one's when Huge would make it more fun ;)

Phoenix
Sep 18, 2002, 11:21 AM
Overlag - if he did give the UK more units than it would drain away their money (I have this problem myself). Also i am making my sen' on a huge map and wouldn't advise it (its my first sen as well) as it takes for ever.

Overlag
Sep 18, 2002, 04:39 PM
yeah, i suppose this map took like 2minutes on my 1800mhz AMD, god knows how long huge would take.

Just wish there was a way to simulate the UK getting arms from the USA......

Phoenix
Sep 19, 2002, 12:29 PM
The only real way is to include the US on the map and make it part of one civ - The Allies / NATO / UN (take your pick).

stalin006
Sep 19, 2002, 05:52 PM
nato? UN? this is world war 2!

Phoenix
Sep 23, 2002, 11:25 AM
I've heard that the UN first founding about the time of WWII. Baybe that was a different organisation calling themselves United nations like calling yourself the allies.

stalin006
Oct 13, 2002, 05:23 PM
a little feedback would be nice.......as i am making my "October Fury scenario'

Dr. Dr. Doktor
Oct 24, 2002, 02:59 PM
The first three turns seemed easy enough until the Russians declared war because of their mutual protection with the Neutrals. Then my spy in Moscow discovered that there were 12 tanks or so in that city. All my panzers are currently recuperating in France. I do not think we will reach Moscow this winter. I wonder when war weariness will set in.

Funnily enough resistance in France is lighter than in the Neutral countries.

I don't really have any criticism yet, except that Hamburg should be moved one tile so that it is a coastal city, or is this done so that it is difficult for the Germans to build a navy?

JoseM
Oct 24, 2002, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Phoenix
I've heard that the UN first founding about the time of WWII. Baybe that was a different organisation calling themselves United nations like calling yourself the allies.

The United Nations was created in 1945 after the end of ww2 and the NATO was created years later to counter the soviet threat. Then the soviet union created the "warsaw pact" which was the counter part of the Nato.

stalin006
Oct 24, 2002, 03:24 PM
mabye he was thinking of the league of nations, the un was created in the last days of ww2

Esca
Jan 07, 2003, 05:21 PM
Stalin.

I have played both the "October Fury" and "Athenas Shield".

They were both great and a lot of fun.

Is this one different enough to have a go with?

Thank you for spending all that time and effort.

stalin006
Jan 07, 2003, 06:15 PM
oh teh october fury and athenas shield are basicly the same map.

this one is totally differetnt to go w/ it, 7 or 8 civs, (try germany, but u will need cash aftera while)

Esca
Jan 07, 2003, 06:18 PM
Right.

Thanks.

Esca
Jan 18, 2003, 06:45 PM
Have started playing it.
Great fun.

Wish I knew how to put cities and units on a map.

stalin006
Jan 19, 2003, 10:00 AM
use the editor, do u have PTW?
is hard to me to explain how ot since i dont have CIV3 install cuz of computer problems.

Esca
Jan 19, 2003, 03:24 PM
I do not have PTW.
It is not available in Australia.
Should be renamed, Play Part of the World.

When it is available, I am not sure I will buy it as I am not interested in play over the internet.

Marla_Singer
Jan 22, 2003, 05:58 AM
Hey,

At first, thanx for that great scenario. About military power, I'd say France and England should be both a lot less powerful than Germany. Moreover, England shouldn't be more powerful than France. These countries need to start to build a massive army only after the attack. Well I haven't checked exactly if it was the case in your scenario.

I wouldn't have put railways all over the poorest parts of the continent. In South of Spain, North Africa, Turkey, Greece or Russia. Maybe you can link main russian cities, but don't put only railroads cause you must show that russians haven't the same industrial potential than germans, brits or french. They are just bigger.

Well, that's just my few remarks. The scenario is already great. I'm not sure at all my advices would improve the gameplay. Thanx again ;)

stalin006
Jan 22, 2003, 06:11 PM
oh my!!!!
the legendary marlasinger!
i am so mush a fan of ur map.
well try my october fury scenario, thats much much better.

i cant improve the game since my CD-ROM thing is messed up :(
but ill come up w/ it.

quant
Mar 27, 2003, 04:00 AM
Can anybody tell me why my game ends during the first turn ?
After 10 minutes or so a window with a clock opens. It sais 10 minutes and a few seconds. Above it sais that a badly failed as an emporer.
Why that ? It s my first turn as a German and all i did was moving my troops.

I appreciate your help in advance

stalin006
Mar 27, 2003, 05:36 PM
:S i have no idea it worked fine for everyone else.....mmmh......maybe u lost a domination victory....i really dont remember, its been a looong time since i made it.
sorry for the incovenience

WoundedKnight
Mar 29, 2003, 10:54 AM
Nice game, but perhaps unbalanced. Germany is so strong. The first turn of the game as Germany, I conquered ALL of the neutral cities except for Ireland and Bern. The second turn, I took out Bern. Third turn, Germany can take out France. Fourth turn, you can take a big bite out of Russia.

After the first turn as Germany, my score was almost 3 times that of the next closest country. It's hardly a challenge when the game is essentially won within the first several turns.

I thought that the oil fields in North Africa & Middle East were a nice touch. You can have a dramatic effect on the game by strategically targeting your opponent's oil fields so that he/she can't build modern units. Good strategic setup there.

The map size (100x100) was great because it made the scenario playable without the long lags that plague some of the other WWII and earth scenarios. Very nice job overall. I just wish the game were a little more balanced.

WoundedKnight

stalin006
Mar 29, 2003, 04:15 PM
thanks wounded kinght, but the funny part is that garmany did took out all the neutral nations in a few months, easily took out france, and a LARGE part of russia by 1941, if u play as the UK ull find urself fighting germany as of 1941, u are also right about the 100*100 thing, i love that size......250*250 is just too big.

if u liked it i recomend the october fury series. :)

globester
Mar 30, 2003, 12:47 PM
i extracted the .bic to civ3\scenarios but when i try to play the scenario, it says the file is corrupt :(
do i need to patch or what?

globester
Mar 30, 2003, 12:59 PM
patched and it works :)
been a long time since i last played civ3 :/

stalin006
Mar 30, 2003, 03:02 PM
glad it works:)

groove311
Apr 14, 2003, 12:36 AM
hi i can't load the game it says it can't load pediaicons.txt
... how can i fix this please help

stalin006
Apr 14, 2003, 08:24 PM
errrrr........u must had loaded a different scenario......mine doesnt come w/ pediaicons, it must be one of teh otehr ones otu there, to play this scenario u just have to download and play, no mess installing units etc. check the name of the scenario u got, is probably someother one out there

civ3rules
Mar 10, 2007, 09:23 AM
how do u download the map?

Overlag
Mar 10, 2007, 10:34 AM
how do u download the map?


this topic is 4 years old dude......:crazyeye:

civ3rules
Mar 11, 2007, 08:22 AM
oh i get it

Tgo1130
Mar 11, 2007, 10:42 PM
its dead n gone LOL

Azale
Mar 13, 2007, 12:04 PM
HOLY...wow...I was just starting to post when this was first made. You brought back some serious memories civ3rules.

This is still a good classic scenario to play if you don't want to wait days for one to load ;) Try beating it as the Neutral Nations...

Yun-Yammka
Jun 27, 2007, 09:42 AM
where can I download?