British Empire 1850-1900

Guide the British Empire through the exciting age of the Industrial Age - very exciting but also dangerous times. Experience the imperialsm of Europe and the adventure of the colonies, this scenario lets you enjoy playing the game with plenty of trade options and plenty of reasons to make war. There are lots of potential enemies.

http://mil-sim.net/a/british-soldiers.jpg

Background

News has come of Prussia and its military might as it has fought off the Austrian empire in the East. Now they lay their eyes on the French. Although we dislike the French we also cannot help to despair what happens if the might of the Prussian empire conquers the French - could the Prussians be the real biggest threat? If Prussia does attack France do we help or do we stand by?

In the colonies and great cities of the British Empire there is strength and unity but also there is potential trouble, how do we deal with new threats such as Prussia? Also another great empire to the East, The Russian Empire threatens the once mighty and great Ottoman empire. If Russia were to eat this empire up could we lose all of are empire to the east which lay through the Suez canal? This is a dangerous time for Britain and millions of people from across its mighty great empire. Can Britain continue to last through this time? We must think, not just the empire is in threat but also Britain itself with ambitious countries threatening us.

So it is that we must look to the old colony of America where its people have now established the USA. Is this not are only hope? Or with are mighty armys and navy can we stand up to this great evil and fend off enemys. Only in these coming years will we therefore be able to tell.

Features

Countries: Ottomans, Germans, French. Austro Hungarians, Spain, Portugal, USA, Mexico, Denmark, Russia, Italy, Japan, Argentina, Brazil, China and the Netherlands.

All countries are fitted with accurately represented armies and navies of the time.

The units are named units after real regiments etc and cavaly after real brigades, also ships are named. This will give you the chance to battle the French Foreign legions with The Scots guards etc. Can HMS Warrior really prove she is the best ship in the world?

Make British Empire proud and play the Imperial Age!

Download and Installation

The latest version is 6.7 - download it now! (http://mil-sim.net/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=18)

British Empire 1850-1900 requires Civilization III: Play The World expansion pack.

Download (http://mil-sim.net/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=18) and unpack the archive to Scenarios folder inside Civilization III: Play The World installation folder.

Support

If you have any suggestions or comments, please visit the official Forum (http://mil-sim.net/forum).

Author

British Empire 1850-1900 (World 1850-1900) was created by Christopher Sharp - the maker of World 2003, the most popular Civilization III scenario ever created.

Updates Log

Version 5.0

The last version until the new Play The World comes out, depends how quickly i get the new Civ3. Well this is the ultmiate Civ3 scenario; I have taken a great deal of time making drastic changes, which make the game more open and more countries and colonies, plus more realistic.

In this version i have made a lot of changes, like taking advantage of South America and the interests from Britain in that area. Built up the Caribian more with pirates and more colonies. Western countries with all their money can buy plenty of rubber to advance to World War 1 era. China can now build settlers, making it easy for China to emerge. I have made Britain more dominant but other countries have a much greater chance with more recources available via more colonies etc. well this rules.

Version 6.2

This features a new civ, The Dutch who are commercial and Expansion. Also some city names are updated and some other things to make the game more realistic. This is the best version yet, this is brilliant. It will soon be in saved game version.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/The_World_1850-1900version6.2.zip

Also now there is a saved game version which gets straight onto the game, just put this in the saved game folder and it will quickly get onto the game without waiting for it to come up.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/Victorian-Empire.zip

Version 6.6

The new version, 6.6 is now out featuring new civs including the Dutch and the Zulus. Other changes aswell including cities. More challenges for colonial powers. Also new Battle Rules and other changes.

Version 6.6 SAVED GAMES (Thank you Azale)

Germany: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/Germany,_6.7.zip

For people with the normal Civ 3 here is an original version, with cities updated, more updates to come including the new civs if I can.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/The_World_1850-1900original.zip

Can i thank Kitten of Chaos for the map. Also can i thank Stalin006. Who helped me. Please give me suggestions on how to improve it. This is a huge map. ok then. cya then

Two questions:

1. How long does it take to configure the scenario? I waited 10 minutes, and it only progressed to the "C" in "Configuring Scenario...."?

2. Why have you set the difficulty to deity? Is it too easy if it`s lower? Not everybody plays at deity.......;)

no Impreza, the credit is yours, i did nothing

Originally posted by Athelstane
Two questions:

1. How long does it take to configure the scenario? I waited 10 minutes, and it only progressed to the "C" in "Configuring Scenario...."?

2. Why have you set the difficulty to deity? Is it too easy if it`s lower? Not everybody plays at deity.......;)

I agree it does take a hell of a long time for this scenario to load also y not give people some choice as to a different difficulty level thats the first thing I changed after I downloaded it

I made it deity cos otherwise it wouild be too easy. I thought people would agree. But i will change it. Oh yeah and you said it took a long time to get ready. I know this and will try to make it quicker. I will see if i can do anything for makiing it quicker.

For now on i would just wait for 10 mins and watch tv or something. Or another thing u can do is save it so that u can keep playing the start of the game and it hopefully takes less time then.

I will try to get screenshots and update it. This is gonna be a great scenario.

Can u guys give me some suggestions?

city names are quite funny :p
a city named sweden is located in norway :p
a city named finland is located in umm... quite wierd location :p
st.petersburg is in helsinki :p i would place it 2 tiles east, 1 tile se..
and prague in the center of poland? :D
minsk on the coast of black sea? :lol:
and so on...

the scenario is not bad but i would recommend consulting an atlas ;)

Do not worry it shall be ok and the cities shall be put in the correct possition. At the moment i am gonna put more regiments in and try to improve the playability and then iwill do the city names. Can anyone suggest any Norwegien cities?
I will see what i can do with St Petersburg.

This is gonna be the most realistic scenario yet.

You have placed Oslo in Bergen. And the city of Sweden, can be renamed to Narvik.

One more thing about the Scandinavian countries. In 1850-1900 Norway was in Union with Sweden, while Denmark was a country of it`s own. Denmark had the Faroe Islands, Greenland and Iceland. I understand you can`t have two civilizations, thats too complex. But maybe you should rename it to Sweden? Or maybe Scandinavia...

The largest cities of Norway are as follow:
Oslo, Bergen, Trondheim, Stavanger, Drammen

I hope this helps:)

I could put another civ in if i wanted to, but that would be 13 civs hich is an unlucky number haha unless i put a small Zulu state in Africa which is really agressive towards Britain. I might do that. Thank you for your help on scandinavia i will take your suggestions in.

Can you give me some reasons why it should be Sweden and not Denmark? I might have to seperate the countries because both were and still are respectful nations.

Would 14 civs be ok? Please say if it would be ok, plus are the leaderhood names ok? Also do you guys like the regiment and ship aspect of the game.

ok then
cya then

I have updated it with the cities corrected. Can people give me ship names and infantry regiments for any of the empires i have created? Please this would make the game much more interesting and plus tell me if you want the zulus and the swedish and norweigen union in.
ok then
cya then

Originally posted by _Impreza_
Can you give me some reasons why it should be Sweden and not Denmark? I might have to seperate the countries because both were and still are respectful nations.


It would be most historically correct to separate Denmark and Sweden/Norway, but in the game those civilizations will be small. I think you should go for it. And the idea of the Zulu nation are a good one. It was first in the periode 1880-90 the english subdued the Zulu and Matabele Nations (I think, didn`t look it up).

I don`t really have any very good reasons for why it should be Sweden and not Denmark, but they hadn`t been united since 1523. They both played a minor role of the napoleon wars, where Denmark/Norway supported Napoleon only because Sweden supported England. At that time Iceland, Greenland and the Faroe Islands belonged to Norway. In the peace talkings after the wars, Denmark had to give Norway to Sweden as a "thank you" from England. Denmark/Norway was at the losing side. But for some reason, the islands stayed with Denmark.
I don`t think either of the nations played an important role in the years 1850-1900. Denmark was attacked by Otto von Bismark and his Germany as a part of uniting Germany, but the countries lived mostly in peace and started to grow into the countries we know today.

IF you go for Sweden/Norway you should use Karl XV (king 1859-1872), Oscar II (1872-1907) or baron Louis De Geer (prime minister 1858-70 and 75-80). I think you should use Oscar II. The prime minister isn`t a good option, since he was only prime minister in Sweden, Norway had it`s own. But they had the same king. Do you need great leaders, too?

I`m afraid I can`t help you with ship names and infantry regiments, but if you want to make civilopedia that matches the game I can write those for you. Just give me a hint....

Making more civs would cause the game to be even slower. You have to decide wheter it is worth it. And I suggest just calling it Scandinavia, that would make it more powerful.

Well hmmmmmmm, its ur decision. Just i want everyone to tell me what they reackon should happen cos i think more civs would make the game more playable, hmmmmmmm. I dunno hmmmmmm i could always make 2 versions.

I will be working on the civilopedia soon, and i need people to either help me with them or write hem for me.

Also i need someone to make some leaderheads for me fitting the countries and install them if anyone can.

I will keep looking to make it more realistic and playable. I need to make this scenario the most realistic yet and make it a standard higher than the rest.

I only can do this with cooperation with you guys and by making every detail correct. Also i want to know if you guys think if the Netherlands should be in it. This would give Britain a reason to declare war as i should imagine the larger countries would invade it. Also i wanna know how much the long waiting time affects you guys that much. I need to know where to put the balance of the game between playability and realism. I might have to make 2 versions.

I am going to be very busy in the next few weeks and i need some people to help me with this project. If anyone can help please can they give me there hotmail address. This will only be the best scenario around if you guys cooperate with me and give me ideas.

IF ANYONE WANTS TO HELP ME WITH THIS MOD REPLY AND GIVE ME A HOTMAIL ADDRESS.

ok then
Cya then

Hey there mate, I made some changes to your scenario in South America as follows:

1. Added Argentina as a civ
2. Added Brazil as a civ
(seeing as how South America was empty, and these 2 were independant countries at the time, even thought to be emerging world powers, Argentina was very wealthy as was the Kingdom of Brazil, thought **keep in mind i didnt add roads/rail and irrigation on purpose, since I wanted to convey the idea of them being "developing" countries, or, umm, "emerging powers". so they would need a bit of work to catch up :)
it would add some flavour down there)
3. Added the alot of capitol and larger-eque cities to the rest of south america, in the form of spanish colonies, or, "Spanish commonwealth".
4. Moved British Guyana, Suriname, and French Guyyana a bit to be more realistic.
5. Added some european colonies to the caribbean
6. Added Belize next to mexico in the form aof a british colony
7. Changed the city names of Canada to be better realistic.
8. Added the french polynesian colonies off australia, the british are just powerful there.
9. Added Hawaii and the Phillipines to the USA as colonies/territories.
10. re-activated Settlers, seeing as how the world is still not, at this time, fully explored.

I didnt touch anything else on the main African/euro/asian landmass, it all seems to be ok to me.

Hope you dont mind, as i didnt ask permission or anything, you can even download it and make some more changes yerself seeing as how i know i have not remotely "perfected" it hehe

I really love this scenario, and congrats on making a real scenario and not just a MOD. this how i like my scenarios. What I have done is set the human player to Mexico in one game and Argentina in another game through the editor. Right now my in my Mexico game, I have claimed Cuba from spain, and Belize from Britain, built up the infrastructure and am getting ready to retake Texas and California heheh. In the Argentina game, I have libertaed Uruguay, Chile and Bolivia, with plans to amke an alliance with Brazil to keep spain occupied in South America while i plan to take Spain proper :)

Anyways hope you have fun with the changes i made.

I think your scenario is great, but it still needs some improvement.

First of all, the map is slightly wrong, because there's some kind of strait in northern Mexico, when actually it's the widest part of the country.

You can put Mexico City about two squares south, and rename South California as La Paz, Mexican America as Santa Fe, and Mexican Port as Campeche add a city in the Pacific ocean.

And the leader name is wrong, you could put Antonio de Santa Anna or Benito Juarez instead, those were the most important leaders of the era.

And finally, these are the names of some mexican military leaders of the era: Mariano Escobedo, Ignacio Zaragoza, Porfirio Diaz.

;)

Ok then, Ragof email me at WRCSUB@hotmail.com and we will see what we can do to make the scenario better, i like what you have done, the reason why i did not fill up all the colonies was too not slow it down too much uknow. I kinda rushed the making cities and had to use my own knowlege etc with colonies etc so i welcome corrections, i welcome people giving me new ideas aswell, the reason why i never added settlers was cos i did not want any historical parts to be wrong as it progressed but i guess it makes it better on the playability side to keep them.

Luis G , could you please email me also at WRCSUB@hotmail.com with the correction of the map of Mexico so i can correct it and make it more realistic making it more interesting for you guys. Thank you for the suggestions and i will take them all in.

Can i also have some feedback from you guys on whether you would like more ships named and more units named after actual real units and ships from the era?

I will work my hardest to make you guys have the best realistic civ experience anyone has ever had and i will try my very best until you have that experience, oh yeah also do u guys like the idea of being Britain lets you pass ships through the Suez Canal?hehe i found it fun that i actually could get to India quickly for once.

Well anyways thanks rasof and Luis G im just gonna do a bit more work on the scenario,
Ok then
cya then

Have you got an Atlas. I don't mean that in a sarcastic way. Because if you don't you might want to get one or borrow one. Because placing cities in their correct spot on a map isn't really that difficult when you have an Atlas.

When I play a scenario I like if the city names are correct and placed correctly. Some tips for cities:You have put Drammen in Finland, this is WAY OFF!! And you should place Stockholm in Sweden instead of Malmo. In Australia you have put Auckland which is suppose to be north in New Zealand. These are just some of the misplaced and misnamed cities on the map. Just find an Atlas and get it right. Good luck :)

FYI - This was the time period Prussia went from being one of the major continental powers to becoming the MAIN continental power. They overwhelmed French, Danish and Austrian armies during the 1860s with ease, ensuring German unification in the 1870s. Their speed and efficiency with mobilization surprised all of Europe (took them seven weeks to beat Austria...about 2 years to beat all of France capturing hundred of thousands of soldiers). Britain remained neutral to them during this time period (as did Russia). Italy sided with them against Austria. They should be the main European military opponent (land based).


Austrian/Italian ship names (ca 1866) - http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/bunker/5294/visinfo.html

Here is a pretty good link to some war information during this time period...check out the Franco-Prussian section and if you click on the Battle of Worth, 1870 link, you can get alot of named Regiments and Divisions:
http://www.hillsdale.edu/dept/History/ (click on Military documents link)

Im a bit busy at the moment, if anyone has any suggestions or improvements post them to me at WRCSUB@hotmail.com . I should be bringing out a new version sometime next week.

This tiem period it is based in is the most exciting in my point of view as it the roots of the cause of how the world would be in the 20th century. hehe. anyways the new version will have updated cities and hopefully new civilopedias and leaderheads if anyone can help me with them. Also a few more ship names hehe.

I am glad you guys have taken an interest in this time period aswell. I will make this scenario the best and most accurate made yet and then maybe work on another scenario based on the 7 years war.

Please keep the suggestions coming in.
ok then
cya then

Yes I do agree, It is an awesome scenario. You took alot of time to make it and with the exception of a few inaccurate city names and such, I have found it enjoyable.

I am thinking what type of scenario to make myself. I love historical as well as "what if" scenarios.

Scenarios I am pondering to do:

1) China vs. Taiwan.

Civs:
China
Taiwan
North Korea
South Korea
Japan
USA
Britain
EU
Russian Federation
Neutrals (severely underpowered, I hate games when the neutrals become more powerful as a whole than the major players)
India
Australia/NZ
Pakistan
Iran
Iraq
Arab League

**In case anyone is wondering, I do like to use all available civ slots hehe, cant wait till the expansion when we can use up to 32 civs at the same time, wow!**

2) The Mongol Horde

Civs:
Mongols
China (will be split into many different civs as well, as i dont think it was united at the time)
Korea
Japan
Kingdom of Siam
Khmer Empire
Kazakhstan
Kirghizistan
Turkistan
India
Persian Empire
Russian City-States
Teutonic Knights
The Byzantine Empire

I like your ideas, hopefully if you ask in the graphics forum they could give you some graphics to fit the scenarios. You wanna know how to make the neutrals stay weak? Well go to civilisations in the rules section and go to neutrals and give them lots of disabilities liken not building units or something which would help alot.

Just perfect ur scenario in which you think right and then work around what other people want. Maybe you can help me in a few weeks time when i make my 7 years war scenario. This would be very interesting cos its the time when it was just France and Britain who dominiated the world with exceptions of the Dutch but there was no challenge around this period as the British took French colonies in turn which led to the American revolution. hehe
ok then
cya then

Yes I agree that the time-period for which the scenario is set (1850-1900) is one of the (if not THE) most interesting periods of history. It is the time where Europe was extremely superior, the world divided into colonies of the relatively small (in land mass anyway) West-European Imperial powers.

Im gonna get some work done this week and im gonna try my best to get some leaderheads. hmmmmmmm, if i added setlers, this could mean Mexico being the worlds main superpower conquering south america etc, i could release a new version if u guys want where i add the Netherlands and Argentina. Or Argentina and Brazil. This could make trade very competitive hehe and should be quite interesting. I just wanna know if you guys mind the loading period of the game.

Have i made the european balance of power good enough? I know during this period until the prussian expedition that Austria was very powerful etc. But i felt putting Austria and Hungary would be more realistic in the sense that they had the balkans at the point in history as this would make a powerful Austria and Hungary want to invade the weak Ottomans.

Well i will try my best for the next version.
ok then
cya then

rajofpsg i hope you DO do the Mongol Horde scenario because it would be a great idea! I would download it as soon as it would be finished.

what patch is it

I LOVE this scenario! :D

Only one gripe,was Italy really that underpowered (3 riflemen,and one cavalry) ? :eek:

at this point in history there really weren't that many roads in the american west or Canada, let alone railroads, the names and placements could use a lot of work too.
Also the US took both Cuba and the Philipines from Spain at about the same time, so having the philipines American and Cuba not doesn't make much sence.
Also if it is before the Mexican American war than you might want Texas to be part of Mexico
I know your scenario is supposed to be from 1850-1900, but it would help alot if you picked a certain year from within that time period to
Also I'm pretty sure that Thailand has never been a colony to any European power, so you probably shouldn't give it to Britain.

Well i think Thailand was part of the British empire, also there were railroads in America, in the west, it would be stupid not to build railwroads, there was so much money to be made from them. I want to vary some factors like Cuba not belonging to America etc and the Philipines belonging to them.

I dont wanna choose a year, cos its just the era which is important, over these years the worlds fate which led up to today was ealed in the alliances etc.

Well anyways, my opinion on making a scenario on todays world, it is never going to be accurate, todays world is too complicated, maybe i will wait to build a modern era scenario when the new game comes out. The good thing about this game is that you can make it accurate by taking the path on to what alliances to make as it was a very real part of this time, you did not know who ur enemy was. I do not think there will be a good modern era game coming out which is realistic at the moment.

People continue to pretend europe is one happy place where every sticks together, but countries range in politics and diplomacy. How can you make an Iraq scenario for instance when Britain is part of the EU, cos in real terms its only Britain from the EU who will attack.

I just wanna say, people are gonna make a big mistake putting Britain with europe in scenarios cos Britain has a strong enough world presence of its own too bulstar its influence. Well i will perfect this scenario and also wait until the new game comes out to build the ultimate civ scenario involving the real world only if more civs are allowed and if there is a diplomacy option.

Jeez some scenarios get on my nerves haha. Well im gonna check out some modern scenarios. cya then

Plus Britain isnt part of the EU in real life right now anyways, and i doubt it ever will be.

Originally posted by rajofpsg
Plus Britain isnt part of the EU in real life right now anyways, and i doubt it ever will be.

If Britain hasn`t left the EU the last 24 hours, I think you`re wrong!:)

I just wanna say that it is hard to perfect something without diplomacy. Britain is a more significant player in foriegn affairs than the rest of europe who are different from Britain. We are an island. I just will do 18th and 17th and 19th century scenarios at the moment.

These are facsinating eras and people dont know much about them, would it not be good to bring them to life? so people could learn more about it?

Sounds good. Have you made the Royal Navy bigger than the 2nd and 3rd biggest navies in the world 'cause it was.

Ok then, i got a new scenario, i will put it on later today i have updated it, it is very good. I am bvery pleased with it. I hope you guys will be too. I will work a bit more and will have it finished todat i think, ok then cya then

The New Scenario is up. It is very good

I think you forgot to post it Impreza.

The Version is up. This is so damm realistic. It is a great game.

I would like u guys to tell me how you like this.

Weird,for some reason whenever I try to download it it just stays at version 4.3.:(

Try it again, and if it does not work just tell me and i will change it.

Nope,still won't work:mad:.Might just be me though.:(

It isnt, its something i did. I will fix it.

Argh!!:aargh: Winzips saying something like,not valid achive!Anybody else having problems downloading?

I've the same problem as you Azale.

Just play my last version. That will work. Im creating an Iraq scenario. This is gonna set a new standard of modern day scenarios.

I will be finished soon.

I have anh excellent new scenario. Bu because of a few reasons i cant put it on here. I will send some guys them if they want. Plus this one.

The new one is based on the world as it is today. It is the ultimate real day modern scenario. No Joke. Better than all the rest. Seriosly it is.

I might have to ask firaxis or someone to let me have more civs and modify it for me. It is that good. I am very excited about this. The Ultimate Modern Day Scenario.

Except for mine of course;)

sorry. no offence. i just think mine is very much realistic. its only my opnion.

No offense taken:D

Who ever wants the world scenario of today. Write in and give me email adress and i send it

please send your scenario
ME (g.tan@gmx.at)
i was also working on a scenario of our world, but after finishing europe and asia, i`ve stopped. perhaps i `ll continue my work at any time.

Th scenario is come on great at the moment. I need more civs. I need to ask firxis to do make that possible.

How far along is your scenario?I've finished the whole western hemisphere and a piece of the eastern one on mine,named Present Times.What's yours named?(Sorry if I ask to many questions)

Well, ive done, UK, France, Russia, Italy, Spain, Germany, India, China, USA, Euro Middle East Allies, USA, and Iraq, im working on the rest soon which are UN, Pakistan, Austrailia and Canada and Japan. Oh yeah and Arab states. Its looking good. Im making the nuclear powers having respectable amounts of nuclear missiles etc. I have focused on economys and science. I have given Iraq a nuclear warhead. But only tactical nuclear weapon. I dunno whether to make rogue states instead of Just Iraq. I dunno. I want more civs. I want every world crisis covered and all the major economys and world organisations etc.

Let me think. I dont wanna leave massive bits of the world unhabitable. Also i dont want the UN to be too strong. I might just make them very passive and give them hardly no weapons. Cos its not gonna be individual exceptions etc.

Wait till PTW comes out so you can use diplomacy.Even then,though, the civ limit will still be 24 (32 if you can make custom civs with leaderheads,etc).

it works play 1850-1900

How do u guys feel about this new version? u missed it? haha. i need some feedback. im not gonna finish the other scenario cos it is too complicated

Originally posted by _Impreza_
How do u guys feel about this new version? u missed it? haha. i need some feedback. im not gonna finish the other scenario cos it is too complicated

So you want feedback well, now I have Azale´s problem wich I didn´t had before u updated it :mad:Though I liked the old version.:p

Right this will definately work on winzip. i dunno about any others. hmmmmm, u could get the old one? how?

You guys im always looking to improve this scenario. i want it to feel as imperial as ever, you guys ok with this new version?

You guys wanna help me with naming more units and ships? or anything that could be done to make it better and realistic?

If this scenario is from 1850 to 1900 maybe you could make the Confederate States of America.I don't think I could help with unit names :(

Hmmmmmmmmm, very good idea, well i would but i dunno cos i added Argentina and Brazil, i figured if there was a war Germany etc would need rubber.
I send it

Wait for PTW.You should be able to put diplomacy and more civs in.You could have the Civil War,WWI,and the Crimean (?) wars all in one scenario!:eek:

You also could add 1 or 2 more cities in alaska.

It´s not working yet, btw i dont think there will be an option to set diplomacy in the PTW.

U sure its not working? can no one get it?

Nope I just tried again.

u got winzip?

Originally posted by _Impreza_
u got winzip?

what kind of **** question is that ofcorse I got winzip.

haha, na some people got this other thing i was wondering how many actually had it i cant remember the name now, give me ur email adress ad i send it to you, but i dunno why u got the problem.

my email button is between my profile and my search button.

oops, cough oops,sorry about that, i'll send it, i dunno whether people will like the idea of Argentina and Brazil im gonna develop these countries.

Yoda Power, you don't think there is gonna be diplomacy?Where's your source?

azale, i dont think he knows i think its what he just "thinks", i reackon it would be dumb not to add diplomacy options, if they dont people will get mad and it will probarly be added in an update, oh yeah if there is more civs u reackon its gonna slow down the game alot?

In the chat with Firazis someone asked if that would be an option, and the answer was no.

That sux, jeez, u know if there are any more scenario options in the new game?

No diplomacy?That sucks.:(

More civs probably would slow the game down as it requires more time to load 24 civs than 16.

i need a faster computer then or cleasn my c drive cos its slow as it is already. But im gonna make excellent scenarios with all them civs. I will just create land arguements on it to make diplomacy work, like a german army right next to lens etc. It should work.

Right i was reading the chat, they did not say u could start off at war with someone, i dunno if they said anything about alliances etc. Whats the release date? i wanna make sure i have the money. Oh yeah if im gonna do this 1850-1900 scenario in the new game i need someone with me who could change the graphics etc so it looks very imperial.

There will be no options to set diplomacy in PtW. However, you can start a scenario as a hotseat game, work all the diplomacy out there, then change it back to a regular AI game. That will allow you to have diplomacy.

Just a few things on the scenario, mostly corrections on city names.

You have Tunis in the middle of the Sahara, when Tunis should actually be closer to where you have Algiers (in Tunisia). You should probably change Algiers to Tunis, and rename Tunis to something else (don't ask me what).

Singapore is actually where the goody hut is, just south of where you have Malaya. You should rename Singapore to Sumatera, since that's what that island is called.

The island just west of Portugal in the Atlantic should belong to Portugal... that island group is the Azores.

You should probably rename Leipzig to something else, since Leipzig is really just south-west of Berlin, while where you have it is quite far to the west. You could rename it Cologne, Frankfurt, Muenster, or some other city in far-west Germany. I'll ignore how you have Warsaw under German control, though it was really Russian at the time. ;)

You misspelled Seattle. Make sure there's two t's. ;)

You have Washington where Philadelphia should be, and Philadelphia is in the Carolinas. :p

Some of your Russian cities are funky.
Odessa should be on the coast of the Black Sea, near Constantinople. Riga should be just south-west of St. Petersburg. Kharkov is a bit east of Kiev. Bucharest was actually a Romanian city (you may want to rename that Odessa). Smolensk was a bit west of Moscow. Astrakhan is on the west bank of the Caspian Sea. Novgorod was just a tiny bit south of St. Petersburg. And Kazan was south-west of Moscow, not in Kamchatka. ;)

I'll leave you with that, you're probably ready to kill me anyways. ;)

haha, na no problems, ur right, i worked on this senario with no atlas, i used general knowledge haha, i will do ur suggestions thanks, hmmmmmm it would be helpful if someone could help me with some graphics on this scenario.

No problems with downloading.:p

I finally got it.

tell me what you think of it

New version is excellent, i have nearly perfected this scenario then.

Brazil and Argentina are literally defenseless. They need more units.

It seems you heard my suggestions on the Italian Army. :D

Other then that, it's one of my favorites.:king:

i cant download this:cry: :cry: :cry:

One question, why have you given Cuba to Spain and the Phillipenes to America? They were both won by America in the Spanish-American war. I'd give both of them to either one, not split them up.

How about let it vary? My aim was to let each western country have a good amount of recources. It is 1850+ not a specific date. I choose to vary this. Yoda, ask azale how he got it downloaded in the end. Cos he had the same problem as you. I did listen to the suggestions of making Italy stronger. Oh yeah, it should be great to play Brazil and Argentina. They have either plenty of recources or plenty of money.

You can build a great power from scratch if you want. Have you noticed Germany is the biggest threat to the world with its massive army just like it was in the day? I can conquer France and Russia at the same time with Germany i reackon.

You guys like this version?

i cant download this

I uninstalled my cruddy defected Winzip and dowloaded Quickzip from ZDNet (in the downloads section).

Im gonna make this scenario excellent with the new game. I will have to do it all over again. Should be more accurate. Also when i do it again i will make it more playable and accurate.

Also try to make more money in the world then.

well if its out in the UK i will be getting it next week, it will be so great, also i could finally do a modern day scenario.

Originally posted by _Impreza_
well if its out in the UK i will be getting it next week, it will be so great, also i could finally do a modern day scenario.

Unfortunately, if you don't have any friends in the US who would be willing to send PtW to you, you'll have to wait for PtW until 22nd Nov.. :(

Well i look forward then

hi
i think you can rename the city Prussia to Königsberg
and Leipzig to Hannover.
And why Lens and not Lille?
and change Orleans to Brest, Orleans is near Paris.

Thanks i will take on ur changes in the PTW version then

Impreza, your scenario i pretty good, but you really should do something about the citynames, for example the city Drammen, wich you put in northern Sweden should be a little town outside Oslo, maybe you could rename it Haparanda or Luleå or something that is closer. this was an example, there are other citys thatr are totaly misplaced. another thing with citynames are for example Iceland, why not move it to Icelands westcoast and call it Reykjavik,or cities likeMexican port and things like that, you could find a real city in a atlas.

Right i designed all this without an atlas. k? but i take on bored all suggestions. i will update city names. esecially those russian names. if u guys like this u will think the Iraq crisis scenario set up for PTW is magnificent. well it will feature much more realistic proportions of units based on a world map.

Right u guys got any ideas for the PTW version of this scenario? oh yeah and im also thinking of doing first world war and the modern day scenario. Maybe the Duke of Malbrough scenario aswell. Also a world war 2 scenario. In the world war one and world war two scenarios i wanna make it exciting with Battleship names etc.

right i should be getting the new game next week. i got so many ideas haha. new version will be great lots of new civs etc. I cant wait. The new colonies shall rule. haha

Fix YOUR MAP1

what do u mean? well im probarly getting PTW tomorrow. if u cant work this u probarly got PTW but there will be a new version like this week.

hopefully, some more south american civs, a few territory changes, maybe Netherlands and Belgium, Columbia, Peru and some others. I dunno whether to make a world war 1, world war 2 and industrial age version of this game, should be good, i dunno, the industrial age seems to find its way to world war 2 anyways so should be good, ok then.

If u still have the original civ3 and are interested in this scenario please download it now as soon only the ptw version shall be available, i am very sorry about this.

Ok i want a discussion about how to pursue a great nowaday scenario with making it realistic but being also so the computer players do not mess with nuclear weapons like they are conventional weapons. I have got a scenario at the moment but only for the original civ but i have not got the new PTW yet but whilst playtesting it went hectic. But still quite enjoyable. Jeez this is gonna be hard, but i will update this scenario before i do anything with the new scenario. I dunno whether bring it to the forum yet cos i am not happy with it but it is very realistic. cool. ok then, cya then

Right im gonna fill u in on things i will do forthe new scenario. I will split scandinavian nations into the respected countries, also put Netherlands and Belgium in and also Switzerland, trust me it will work. More south american countries, and a set task for Italy as to invade Ethiopia which i think the invasion happened around in this time era but Italy failed. Also the Zulus and Boers will be added in South Africa not to mention tribes in the Sudan.

Also i will make all Spanish colonies took by america in the spanish american war Spanish so that it will be a task for America to invade them. I ask again for people to fill me in with countries ship names and army regiments so that i can add them in.

This scenario is supposed to evolve to the 2nd world war so i am adding a new unit , The Battlecruiser. This will sacrifice armour for speed as which was in the case when this was made then.

This scenario will try evolve with history, i dunno how to tackle the problem in evolving into modern day but it can be done!

There are some more units i will be adding and improvements i have made in my version already which i have no made in the version on here allready. Hopefully made the map evolve with the scenario, well i mean kitten of chaos mod as hopefully i can get permision to carry on the work witht he map then.
ok then
cya then

USA: Frigate - USS Constitution (Old Ironsides)
USA: Cavalry - Rough Riders

New Version for PTW. More civs etc will follow soon, i got some ideas on new civs and units etc. If anyone has any ideas just say. This is updated very well with a few changes then.

Anyone want this scenario to keep being updated for PTW then?

Well new units have been added so i will add them on then.

have u added more civs yet i have played the scenario a few times i thought it was good but the turns took forever

The thing is if i add more scenarios the longer the turns are. The aim of this scenario was to make it both playable and realistic i think there is a lot of drive in trying to get your aims for ur nation dealt with which makes the turns not matter. I will need to get new leaderheads which will be happening soon for each country and for an extra countries.
Im thinking of: Belgium, Netherlands, Serbia, and Columbia for new civs at the moment. What do you guys think of that idea?
If there are any other wishlists for the new scenario just ask. Also i wish to put in scottish regiments with correct uniforms.
Also might add the Boers and Zulus into it.
Remember at this time in history the British had twice as much power and influence than the Americans have in todays world.
Also i need ship and regiment names for different countries which would be greatly helpful if i could have those.
Also what new recources should i add?

I thought this scenario was fantastic. Great job! Im currently making my own (modern-day fantasy-type) and am finding it quite fun, and will want to make more afterwards. Even though this takes about forever to start up, i enjoyed it immensly.

Well the wait will not be there anymore as there now is a saved game version.

The new saved game version is ready. Later i will update more units etc.

You guys want diplomacy etc added to the saved game version on the scenario then? Also i would love to hear stories about the scenario and things that happened then.

this is great, well done impreza im off now to make my own screnario

Well do you guys want more civs in this scenario? Maybe Belgium and the Netherlands? Or Boers and Zulus? Take ur pick on what civs u want then.

i defiantly want Netherlands in the scenario

I will add them next week in an update then. Anymore civs u want? i might also add new recources/

Could u Add some more South American civs like Colombia or Peru.
what resources are u thinking of adding

Great scenario, I really like it. I was playing as the Germans and after a war with the portugeese and a short Italien war to grab a couple cities, I went to war with spain, Scandenavia, and Austria-Hungary all at the same time, about 20 turns into the game. I didnt realize it but the whole world was getting angry with me. Then after about 5 more turns of fighting the whole world turned on me. The french invaded from the west, the russians from the east and the british moved in with their navy. Damn AI's

When i played as the Germans i had a long war with the French, i took Lens, which means i vertially beat them, i think if i had of carried on i would have then invaded Denmark and Austria.

I am thinking about adding tobbacco and coffee for the Historical importance, if u download Tony Blairs United Kingdom, see how the south american countries are done on there, i might do the same then.

Well i will add the Netherlands when i update it, the Zulus, and the Boers aswell and soe new South American nations. During its time the British Empire was more powerful and influenced the world more than the USA does today. Hopefully this scenario shows that compared to the United Kingdom scenario which shows the USA then.

Your idea about Serbia would not be bad, although I don't think they had a country at the beginning of this time period.

Yeah i just wanna expand the scenario to other time eras such as world war 2. I will add the Boers now i think.

The new version is out! Features new civ The Dutch

u could Greece they were independent in 1830 and Serbia was independent in 1878
how come japan is behind in tech werent they modernized around this time

Well with Japan, what happened was the guy who made them a kinda modern state was the guy who won the naval battle against the Russians in the 1900s. What his experiences were was when i British diplomat was killed by a samarai. In retaliation the British bombarded a Japanese coastal city where this guy was and they felt so helpless with their swords etc.
This guy knew that they had to modernise so he visited London to study British society and try to emulate that in Japan. This led to the first Japanese modern navy ships being made in England and eventually led to the Japanese victory at sea over the Russians.
How do u like the Dutch civ?

i just tried the new map i was Germany everything seemed ok but when i tried to contact the dutch it said i had performed an illegal operation but it didnt say that when i contacted russia and france what do u thinks wrong

I think i know the problem i will fix it. wait a sec

Right i think i have fixed it but ur gonna have to check it. If its not i will fix it tomorrow. Hopefully it works. If not what u do is go to diplomacy screen and contact them that way only i think that works. Well i will work on this for the next 2 days and then the United Kingdom scenario the next week. I will keep updating both. I am keeping both scenarios i know alot of people like this scenario and so do i and i will keep updating it. Hopefully u guys will also like my United Kingdom scenario.
Emu if u want u can post ur saved game in ur next thread which would be cool to see how u have done with your Germany. I love playing Germany and the USA.

Does the Netherlands work?

I would post my saved game, but i uninstalled civ3 and didnt save my game somewhere else, I should have. I played as germany. I took Vienna and Austrian Poland from the Austria-Hungarians, i took portugeese, italien, and spanish colonies in Africa, Took Turin (Italiens), Zaragoza (spanish), and Malmo, Copenhagen, Helinski, and Drammen from the Scandinavians. I was also at war with spain and scandinavia when the french, russians, and english started attacking.

jeez, so did u survive? The Germans are so strong. Have you got PTW? I will be updating it soon when my honourable great great freind atherstane can do some improvements for me which will be so great.

it was in the first turn i contacted so i will wait awhile this time and i give the netherlands a go, impreza didnt u get my private message i sent u

yep i did. I think i replied didnt i? I think i did u will need to check. emu have u got any cool saved games of this scenario? I will put them in the thread if u have. I wanna put some diffferent scenarios in it then.

i havent got any saves i deleted them ages ago and i still played the first version when it was much easier for austria to take over italy, i allso took most of the ottomans cities. ill check if u repleid

Ah, u been the Ottomans yet?

no but i have been the russians i go after china when im russia then attack the french colonies in asia or japan

haha, they can be so powerful the russians can be. I wanna change some city names

do u mean russian city names i could help u

sure if u wanna help that would be great. If u want some good websites go to www.britishempire.co.uk or www.cia.gov u are welcome to fit in some changes and post me it i will take in some ideas if you want me too. It would have to be quite quick as soon Atherstones going to do the civilopedia. I just cant wait until i add the Boers and Zulus it will be so good. So do the Netherlands work? Also i want more units and recources.

how will i post u the changes the changes i did to the map

Is it too large for email? If so go to the creation customizization forum and post it as a new thread there then.

actually i just dont know how

i will help you then

Although I admit I haven`t played the scenario yet, I`ve downloaded it and opened it in the editor. I`d like to give you a tip on the scenario editor.

I see you have changed the start date, but you haven`t made any changes to the time scale. As far as I can see you will cover the era 1850 to 1900 in one turn.

How about changing the base turn of time to months instead of years. You should also change the time scale so it doesn`t change 50 months at one turn. 1 month at a time is maybe to go a bit far, but somehow it should be changed.

the reason why i did this is because the version at the moment progresses very fast to world war 1 tec i will add another version with the minimum tech rate moved to like 10 turns and base it in months.

The scenario is very good, but as a brazilian I have to make some comments:
1-Rio de Janeiro is terribly placed
2-There are no citys called "Botafogo", "Palmeiras" or "Flamense". Botafogo and Palmeiras are football teams, and "Flamense" is Fluminense written wrongly. Fluminense is also a footbal team, not a city.
3-Bogota is not a Brazilian city, its the capital of Columbia!

Now the problems in Argentina:
1-Buenos Aires is terribly placed, it should be where "Boca" is.
2-"Boca" is not a city, it is a football team.

I didnt mean to be annoying, but I had to make those comments!

If you want I can send you detailed maps of South America with city lists.

Impreza which map did u use and where can i get it

i just lost my game as netherlands to Austria because of a culture victory just after the first turn
ive checked the map and Hungary has a culture of 1000000 vienna and Aust. Poland has 100000 u should get that changed straight away

jeez i forgot u need to change the rules

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/the_world_1850-1900changes1.zip
i hope this works

phew!!! Impreza will test my scenario as netherlands and you will have to uncheck culture victory

yeah it works great work. thanks

jeez actually it does not work. Its something about the compression size of it.

what does compression mean anyway but ill download it and see if it works

i got the same thing i something about size didnt match

so u put it into qinzip folder u have the right address, rename it something different.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/the_world_1850-1900new.zip
it didnt work

ill just wait for your version Impreza

Ok then i will make a new version with new civs in soon then. thanks

Should multi figure units be used in this scenario? I may plan another version with these in. But people will have a choice between original and multi unit design.

whats multi figures units

Originally posted by emu
whats multi figures units

you´ve been away for some time havent you.

well i only started posting here around the start of this year

Originally posted by emu
well i only started posting here around the start of this year
and the multiunits figure thread was posted the 4th jan03

well what r they then

what they are? Well there is a new way of combat. instead of just one unit being reprented in combat, why cant this one unit be represented with realism added, like a about 6 marines figures in one unit? This is what is happening, if u have say for instance one marine this will be represnted by 6 or so figures instead of one. Yoda, i dont think he has discovered the creation and customization forum yet, thats probarly why. thanks

well the Boers will come soon then.

great i cant wait

The civilopedia will have to come though.

new updates soon

new updates soon

can anyone tell me if there is a scenario about the british zulu wars if so please give me the thread if not then maybe someone could help me with making one.ANYONE INTRESTED PLEASE PM ME OR E MAIL ME

Zulus added on this scenario soon.

cool there is a movie on the british zulu wars and about shaka zulu and I've been dying to play a scenario about this war.

horsematrix: "Zulu" is the moive that you're probably thinking of; great movie BTW.

_Impreza_, your retelling of Japanese industrialization seems a little off. After COMMO Perry landed in 1853 and 1854, the Japanese overthrew the shogunate and installed the Meiji gov't. After a few bad treaties with the Europeans and Americans and in fear of a expected attack, the Meiji hired Europeans and Americans to help modernize and industrialize. By the late 1870's Japan was just as modern as any European country.

Therfore, in your scenario, Japan should be a industrial nation.
BTW, the scenario looks really cool; I think I'll download it once the name changes are complete.

what name changes are these?

yeah it is a great movie thats why i want a scenario on it:)

I thought that there are problems with misplaced and incorrect city names. If they have been fixed, then I guess I'll be downloading the scenario.

New update, more accurate citys, new civ, the zulus!

great thanks Impreza you the man:goodjob:

Hey I noticed that these are in bix format and are for ptw do you have any for the origingal civ 3 1.29version I would love to play your scenario yer currently I can't and since you added the zulu's and all to this scenario I'm extra eager please just let me know.

ok i will make the version back on for the original civ.

:goodjob: Once again you the man Impreza:goodjob:

would you let me know when you do this too so I can download it thanks again

i will do it tomorrow. k? i will put a few changes in it. u want it in bix right? i think i can do that.

that is cool no rush man just whenever you get the time but I need it so I can play it on civ3 version 1.29 and not play the world however most of the scenarios are done in civ3 edit if you could that would be really great and thanks Impreza:goodjob:

thank you. i will do it for you

:goodjob: thanks Impreza I appreciate it:goodjob:

i have made a bversion for you. i will update it. Its the original version. :)

Thanks Impreza could you direct me to it when your all done with it thanks so much I've been dying to play this scenario for a while now since I watched that zulu movie I believe it's called Zulu Dawn but anyways just let me know in a post where to go to get it and once again thanks:D

nevermind Impreza I found it great thanks man I'll let you know how evreything is with it I've been waiting for this scenario.

i will add Zulus soon and Boers

great thanks

so you are enjoying the scenario? You playing as Britain?

haven't started it yet but will probably get to it today or tomorrow:D

well good luck. It is very interesting playing as Germany.

I might just try germany:)

well tell me how it goes

I will do that are the zulu added to this too if so I might just play as them:D

Not yet. I will launch a version with them soon.

cool just let me know when you do so I can get that version thats the one I'm really wanting thanks

I realy like this scenario. I thought I'd post a screen shot;

:lol:

No realy, once I had waited an hour and a half for the scenario to load, It looks prety good. I had to use the vanila Civ version cos I've not been able to find the play the world expansion in my local stores (looks like i'm gonna have to get the train to basingstoke to buy it). A few thoughts however;

#1 the science level is too far advanced, true infantry should not start to apear for another 30-50 years and modern artillery also should come later.

#2 some one said that it was too easy on anything less than deity; this is because you have given them all to much starting cash (even with 10,000 gold the americans can upgrade their entire military to wwi levels, use spies to safley view all enemy tropp movements, and do any thing else they want). There are also too many great leaders, there should be at most one GL per civ.

#3 When playing the vanila civ version, you lose the game in the first turn because the austria hungary capital has reached maximum culture value.

#4 the map is too big; like I already said it takes (for me at least) an hour and a half to load, also turns take for ever. This is not too bad in a total war scenario where you have a specific goal, but any colonialism needs to be a builder scenario, especialy this one, where riflemen and infantry make war a mostly deffensive affair. Everyone like big maps when they are building scenarios, but its just plain impractical.

ANNOUNCEMENT: Due to being offended greatly by the people(moderaters) who run this site. I feel there are fundamental problems with the way the place is run and this scenario may be deleted soon if the action is deemed correct in a moral protest.

how did they offend you

:( sorry to hear that i hope things work out i like this scenario and i believe you do a good job with it impreza so i just hope things do work out:(

Thank you for your support. I was planning to do some very big updates but now that looks unlikely because of whats happened. Im so sorry. But decision has not yet been made. :)

I understand completley impreza best of luck:thumbsup:

Thank you. I will really try to give you all the latest versions. I dont wanna leave the site but i may have to.

if you don't mind me asking just what happend to make you want to leave this site or are you getting kicked off whats up?But if you don't feel like talking about it that's cool i was just curious to why you would leave when you obviously have fun and are good at this.

Yeah, I'd like to know too.:confused:



And if you have to leave, don't leave us hanging;)

I hope you're not forced to leave either, your scenarios have alot of thought put into them, and are among the best scenarios posted on these boards.

If it does happen, though, there's still your other forum, and you'll have others to keep your information going.

Originally posted by Procifica
I hope you're not forced to leave either, your scenarios have alot of thought put into them, and are among the best scenarios posted on these boards.

If it does happen, though, there's still your other forum, and you'll have others to keep your information going. I agree 100%:D

Im gonna ignore the moderators and just post scenarios, cos the only people who would suffer is u guys and thats wrong. This scenario will lift off the ground like a rocket when i do my new version. Many cool graphics around. :)

I'm glad to hear you are staying thats great and can't wait to see what you come up with POWER TO THE CIV FANATICS :rotfl:

THANK YOU Impreza.:D

I only own "Normal" CIV3,so I assume the newer version is even better than this version.
I think the point Cuba/Philippines was already explained,but there never was a Spanish Guyana,only Dutch/British/French.
Why is Iraq German?They were very active there with the Baghdad-Railway,but only in the 20th century.

Despite these minor points,it's the best and most accurate scenario I've played so far,even i.E. Gambia is British.

I hope I either own PTW soon or you update the "Normal" Civ version.

Hey Impreza have you updated the scenario for vanilla civ3 1.29 to have the zulu yet just wondering let me know:D

Will do soon, just got lots to do for the world 2003 but when its Macieks shift on it then i will update it on vanilla with Zulus and MORE!

Thats great Impreza I was just wondering there's no rush I was just wondering where you were on it thats all thanks:D

working hard on the world 2003. :)

Right guys, as my priority now is the world 2003 scenario, this makes me think i should also be doing this scenario at the same time. I really do wanna do some updates. This scenario deserves a good update soon. Well if i can get a team together to help me with Vanilla version and PTW version that would be great then we could get some work done. Thanks

what do you need done impreza i'll help out if i can just let me know how i can help:D

Right we want the vanilla version done do we horsematrix? If so well we could add zulus.

ok then i'll get on adding the zulus to vanilla civ 3 version as soon as possible i got dsl now so evreything is faster so i should be able to get things done pretty quick now:D

You know what? I wanna change this into a world war 1 time scale scenario aswell.

just e mail me with what you want me to do and any way i can help imprezza and i'll help as much as i can:D

Began as USA,but soon stopped,thought I'd never see action unless I made it.
Changed to Ottomans and decreased money for all civs enormously (700,000g for USA!They had money,yes,but that's way too much) and am enjoying the challenge (see stories&tales forum for more details).

Tell ya what guys, if we can get enough people then we could play a democracy game.

What do you mean by democracy game?

We could also play an NES with enough players.

Whats an NEC? Im up for a game where we could change history, same with the world 2003. I can modify the scenario aswell.

NES stands for Never Ending Story. I would go the NES Forum to learn more. I've been in only a couple of weeks

Here's how you get to the forum:

Civfanatics forum

Civ III

Stories and Tales

Never Ending Stories

ah well that would be great.

NES sounds cool I'll have to check that out too:D

Join MY NES, Alternate History NES!

Wanna hear some cool stories form this scenario

I guess you already found the Ottoman story.
Please update the vanilla civ version sometime soon (think I'll take the Dutch then).

If your the dutch, France and Germany are going to pick you off. I learned that the hard way.

I've played as Mexico, the U.S, Britain, France, Spain, Argentina, ottoman Empire, Italy (hardest in the game), Austria-Hungary, Russia. and I'd say that Austria-Hungary and Mexico were the most fun for me.

Impreza, for a WW1 scenario, I'll I can think of is get rid of the Zulu and add Serbia.

The Dutch have much money and colonies. Use the money from that wealth for alliances etc.

Trues, but they only have so much many, and the more powerful nations see a big juicy target. My dutch capital ended up being Dutch Pacific. I then built up my army there and invaded south east asia.:p

Right good strat, sign alliance with France ,Germany or Russia, i mean mutual protection pact not Britain. Best is for France. Then if Germany goes to war with you, haha ur still gonna get crushed cos they are so damm powerful i dunno, mayeb if u had Russia aswell u may have a chance.

You have to make a strong wall of rifleman to survive.

Well the Germans were designed to really be the challenger to Britain in this time, its so damm powerful.

As Austria-Hungary, I took over Italy, the the Ottoman Empire. I then turned on Germany an me and France took them over. Then I jumped Denmark. Then I slowly chipped at Britain, taking India, then Africa very slowly, always keeping France, Russia and the U.s against them.

Jeez welldone, the Germans could defeat France and go into Siberia before the Russians knew anything about it.

The only countries I've found impossible are Portugal and Italy.

Dont think connected Empires, why not go for Denmark? Or the Netherlands? Give Italy time and it will fight an effective war against the Austrians being a defensive one in the mountains.