Before anything, sorry if this is in the wrong section, and sorry for the lack of a good english, not my 1st language

Anyway, I´m working in a personal mod, only with Asian and African civs, and I need to know whats civs I should use, I´m not good with Asian/African history (here in Brazil is most Europa/America history) I will post a list of what I have in mind and please suggest what I should replace:

-Russia
-Sumeria
-Carthage
-Byzantines
-Arabes
-Hitittes
-Mongols
-Korea
-Babylon
-China
-Egito
-India
-Japão
-Otomanos
-Zulu
--------below this line new civs----------
-Kmher *
-Mali *
-Etiopia *
-Khazars *
-Manchu
-Phoenicians
-Tibet
-Israel
-Ghana
-Siam
-Morocco
-Matamba
-Basutoland
-Hun
-Nepal
-Vietnam

*already in the mod

another thing, are those UUs broken (I mean, too good or too bad):
-Arsiyah (for Khazars,replace knight) 4/4/3 cost 85 (need iron/horse)
-Ethiopian Javelineer (for ethiopia, replace longbowman) 4/3/1 (bomb str 3) cost 45
-Skirmisher (for Mali, replace archer) 2/2/1 (bomb str 2) cost 25
-Elephant Ballista (for Khmer, replace knight) 4/4/2 (1hp bonus) cost 80 (need iron)

That looks like a pretty good list to me. Russian and the Byzantine Empire (a continuation of the Roman Empire) were more European than Asian so I'd replace them with Persia, which was a major power for many centuries, and maybe Assyria or another African nation. The UU stats sound about right, but the 4/4/3 knight sounds a little too powerful.

Thanks, I can´t believe I´ve forgot about Persia :3

I will keep Russia and put Assyria instead of the Byzantines, thanks for the advice

Burma or Java could be nice additions as well, both having been significant civilizations in Southeast Asia.

Thanks, so here is the final list:

-Russia
-Sumeria
-Cartago
-Persia
-Arabs
-Hittites
-Mongols
-Korea
-Babylon
-China
-Egypt
-India
-Japan
-Ottomans
-Zulu
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-Kmher (Scientific Agricultural)
-Mali (Religious Commercial)
-Etiopia (Expansionist Scientific)
-Khazars (Expansionist Religious)
-Manchu (Militar Industrious)
-Phoenicians (Commercial Seafaring)
-Israel (Scientific Religious)
-Tibet (Religious Agricultural)
-Ghana (Religious Agricultural)
-Siam (Industrious Religious)
-Morocco (Religious Commercial)
-Matamba (Militaristic Religious)
-Assyria (Expansionist Militaristic)
-Hun (Scientific Militaristic)
-Java (Seafaring Religious)
-Vietnam (Agricultural Religious)

All civs already in the mod,now the UUs for the new civs:

-Arsiyah (for Khazars,replace knight) 4/4/3 cost 85 (need iron/horse)
-Ethiopian Javelineer (for ethiopia, replace longbowman) 4/3/1 (bomb str 3) cost 45
-Skirmisher (for Mali, replace archer) 2/2/1 (bomb str 2) cost 25
-Elephant Ballista (for Khmer, replace knight) 4/4/2 (1hp bonus) cost 80 (need iron)
-Banner (for Manchu, replace horseman) 2/1/3 cost 35 (need horse)
-Bireme (for Phoenicia, replace galley) 1/1/4 (transp:2)
-Maccabee (for Israel, replace spearman) 2/2/1 (bomb str:2) cost 25
-Shaolin Monk (for Tibet, replace swordsman) 3/1/2 cost 30 (need iron)
-African Warrior (for Ghana, replace longbowman) 3/2/2 (bomb str:3, can choose target, like a catapult) cost 45
-Siamese Swordsman (for Siam, replace medieval inf.) 4/1/2 cost 40 (need iron)
-Desert Raider (for Morocco, replace cavalry) 6/4/4 cost 90 (need saltpeter)
-Lion Warrior (for Matamba, replace medieval inf.) 4/1/2 cost 50
-Assyrian Chariot (for Assyria, replace horseman) 2/1/2 (bomb str:2) cost 25 (need horse) wheeled
-Hunnish Warrior (for Hun, replace medieval inf.) 5/1/1 cost 50 (need iron)
-Keris (for Java, replace longbowman) 5/1/2 cost 65
-Annamese Spearman (for Vietnam, replace spearman) 1/2/2 (1 HP bonus) cost 30


If anyone have a better idea for the traits please tell me, lots of religious civs, same goes for UU stats, I really don´t know if the are gamebreaking good or useless

Ack! NO Shaolin Monk for Tibet!!! That's not only a corny stereotype, that's also a totally wrong stereotype! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Shaolin is Chinese and mystical Buddhist warrior monks is hardly "unique" to Tibet.

Tibet's unique unit should be the Khampa Horseman. The people of the Kham region of Tibet were known for being fierce warriors; they were a menace to the Chinese Tang Dynasty and they also fought against the Chinese invasion in the mid-20th century. Tibet was hardly the fabled spiritual paradise that New Age mystics make it out to be; in its heyday it was a very powerful and fearsome empire of rugged peoples as fierce as the Mongols. In other words, it wasn't a land of peaceniks!

Annamese spearman is a bit wierd for Vietnam since Vietnamese were more famous militarily for their crossbows and guerilla tactics. Not to mention that "Annam" was historicaly a diminutive term for Vietnam since it literally means the "pacified south." Vietnam's UU could be a guerilla unit of some type (guerilla-style warfare was implemented by Vietnamese warriors very early on in its history) or the Au-Lac crossbowman. "Au-Lac" refers to an ancient Vietnamese kingdom formed by the union of the "Au" and "Lac" peoples, the early peoples of Vietnam.

Nice to know =p, I was just following directions of the Tibet´s LH thread (except for the stats)

I will google Khampa Horseman to see if any unit avaiable can be used, thanks again

about vietnam: the original idea was replace rifleman for vietcong, but the vietnam units in the library are too modern, and besides, vietnam would be the only civ with a UU past medieval age, now I will search for a god crossbowman that replace longbowman :3

If you need more ideas for civs, UUs, and leaderheads, go to the "Ogedei's Empire" link in my sig. :)

Shaolin Monk replaced for Khampa Horseman, using this amazing unit by Sandris:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=279321

don´t look much like the khampa horseman that I saw in your thread, but it´s the closest I could find

about vietnam UU, in your thread you list AS as a possibility, so I will keep it for a while, besides, all crossbowman available are too european :3

There is Sandris's Tang Crossbowman, and Aluminium's AOE conversion of the Zhugenu

nice, thanks, I will definitely use that :3

You could also use the "Stone Crossbowman" found in your PTW\extras\Medieval Japan folder, I guess...

For ideas on India, I made a thread that could help with 'pedia entries, etc. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=191958) Ogedei has made a lot of buildings (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=280777), etc. for both India & Asia. and it'd be worth looking at R8XFT's Anno Domini Classic (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=268635) mod to get a look at how Indian civ(s) might play out, including some really nice LHs.