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Lord Civius
Aug 04, 2008, 03:15 PM
If you've come to this thread your probably wondering what the Democracy game is, well you have come to the right place. All the critical information to this game will be availible for you right here.

The game isn't exactly as it is named, a Democracy, everything is decided by the Prime Faction, though the Citizens do have power. We vote, we post ideas, heck, the citizens can even rebel and overthrow the Leaders!

We play a large-scale (as in, we have many participants) Civilization 4 BTS game, this round we are playing as the Aretans, The Japanese Empire with Alexander the Great as our leader. However, not all of us play the game, in fact only one of us does. We refer to him/her as the Governor-General, he is the Prime-Faction leader of the Federation. The Gov-Gen may also appoint a designated player for the turn sessions.

The greatest thing about a Dgame is you don't even need to have CIV to play!

Platform- CIV BTS patch 3.17 HOF MOD (http://hof.civfanatics.net/civ4/mods/HOF-3.17.001.exe) This must be installed to view the save files.

Citizens
All citizens of the Dgame are listed in the Citizens Registry (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=266332). Post there if you wish to become a citizen. Though non-citizens may lurk and post in threads they are not permitted to vote in the Prime Faction elections.

Factions
Federation of Free States (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=291302)- Prime Faction
Military Aretean Directorate (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=290231)
The Venitian Republic (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=290241)
Cycles of Arete (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=283564)
Protectors of the Faith ([URL="http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=265268)
To join a Faction simply post your desire to do so in the Factions thread.

Archived Factions

Free State of Venice (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=277001)
Arkadian Dynasty (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=272558)
Aretan Court (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=278490)
Mysticracy Faction (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=265268)
Tribal Council Faction (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=265136)
Faction Of The Shadowed Hands (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=265499)*
The Philosophers Of The Legion (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=265396)
Timus The Protector (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=268893)
The Infinate Weapons Master (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=269366)


Faction Rules:
Factions are any group of citizens that join together for roleplay or political purpose. A faction is constituted by the following:

A membership of at a minimum of 2 registered citizens.
A recognized government civic
Bylaws based on the above government civic for the running of the faction
A constitution based on the above government civic for the running of the faction

A guild is any group that either refuses to be recognized or does not meet the requirements to become a faction. A faction can fall in one of two categories:

Prime Faction (PF):

Only one Faction can be the "prime" faction.
The entire democracy game uses the prime factions constitution.
The democracy game must remain in the prime factions government civic (and obey it's associated penalties).

Secondary Factions:

Secondary Factions are any factions that are currently not the prime faction.
Their bylaws and constitutions may not violate the national constitution.

Faction Government Civics:
Upon creation a faction must chose one of the following government civics. They can not change that civic during the duration of it's life. Any constitution or rules the faction creates must be based off of the government. Following the government are penalty civics. A faction can not make use of the penalty civics (in italics) associated with it's government civic.

Despotism:
bureaucracy
Hereditary Rule:
free religion
Emancipation
Representation:
Slavery
State Property
Police State:
Free Speech
Pacifism
Universal Suffrage:
Vassalage
Theocracy


Turn Sessions
As mentioned above only one citizen actually plays the CIV game. It is played in multiple turn sessions (usually 5-10 turns per session). It is the Prime Faction, and their leaders', responsibility to schedule the turn sessions and choose a citizen to play the turns if the P-F leader does not.

The Forums
Citizens Forum (http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=286)
Here is where you will find the Faction threads along with an assortment of other citizen related threads. The Federation of Free States (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=291302) Faction has just taken power. Elections (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=291930) are about to start for the Assembly Representatives.

Gameplay Forum (http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=287)
Here is where citizens discuss ingame issues like Research path, build qeues, non-government civic adoptions, Great People and our military strategy to name a few. This is also where the Prime Faction posts the schedule, turn sessions, instructions from the Governor Generals advisors, game saves and screenies. All citizens can participate in the discussions even if they can't open the save. Saturday was the first turn session under the Federation, the turn report is posted here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=291828).

Polls Forum (http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=288)
This is the voting booth for all citizens, from opinion polls to the Prime Faction elections. Though it is not a discussion forum there have been many heated debates within these walls. The New Arkadia Run-off Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=292098) is now up. Vote between two veteran Dgamers, Civplayah and Joe Harker.

RPG (http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=289)
Here is where you will find the game within the game. The Role Playing Game allows citizens to earn an income and acquire land within the Kingdom. The Aretan Royal Treasury (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=286827) is the engine behind the game. Questions about the RPG can be found here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=286753).

Please feel free post any questions or comments about the Dgame here.

Vandal Warlord
Aug 04, 2008, 08:01 PM
ADVISING ALL LURKERS ----------

JOIN THE PRINCIPALITY OF KASSITE-----


;) Sorry Civius, Just had to do it.

Lord Civius
Aug 04, 2008, 11:41 PM
ADVISING ALL LURKERS ----------

JOIN THE PRINCIPALITY OF KASSITE-----


;) Sorry Civius, Just had to do it.

Getting a little free advertising Vandal :mischief: .

thecommonnate
Aug 05, 2008, 02:45 PM
Very cool, this might help me too after reading the rules over again.

Lord Civius
Aug 21, 2008, 03:01 PM
I have updated to include the new RPG thread.

Vandal Warlord
Aug 21, 2008, 05:00 PM
:goodjob: 10chars

Lord Civius
Sep 01, 2008, 05:49 PM
I have updated post #1 of the thread.

Cyc
Sep 02, 2008, 01:33 AM
Nice work. Excellent thread.

Lord Civius
Sep 02, 2008, 04:01 PM
Nice work. Excellent thread.

Yes I would like to see it pinned here and rename it something like "Start here". Anything you guys think I should add?

mohamed al raye
Sep 15, 2008, 05:04 AM
mohamed al rayes

Lord Civius
Sep 15, 2008, 01:42 PM
Hello Mohamed, did you want to join the Dgame?

The Turk
Sep 24, 2008, 03:34 AM
so how do i join and start playing?

Cyc
Sep 24, 2008, 04:28 AM
Turk, in the first post of this thread you'll find info on the Citizen's Registry. By posting in the Citizen's Registry, you are declaring your citizenship in the Aretan nation. As an Aretanian citizen you will reside in our unseen virtual world that inhabits these threads of the Forums also talked about in the first post. By discussing the current events you'll find in these threads, you'll become involved with other citizens playing in the Demogame. You'll come to understand the process of helping decide in which directions and which policies the nation takes.

As far as actually playing the save (the game), you would have to become involved enough in the discussions to be appointed as a Designated Player (DP). These DPs are the only ones who get to play the game, abiding by the Instructions laid out for them by the nation as a whole. A DP plays the 5 - 10 turns they volunteer for, during a Turn Session. A Turn Session can either be done off-line or the more popular on-line way. When it's done on-line, it's called a Turn Chat (TC). It is called so because citizens can join the DP in a chat room and actually give input or their opinion about what is happening in real time. If you as a citizen can't attend a Turn Chat (or it is played off-line) you can read the TS reports and look at the screenshots posted by the DP afterwards.

So welcome. Register and become involved. It will grow on you.

sk8er AG
Sep 24, 2008, 02:34 PM
so this works like a civ game but different people control different parts of the goverment? is there enough work to do for multiple players of the same civ? how many civs are there and whats the Hoff Mod?

Vandal Warlord
Sep 24, 2008, 02:40 PM
It's the HOF, hall of Fame mod. Just a mod with a few bugs fixed.


And there are Nine civs, The Demo-Gamers (That's us) Are the Areteans, Japan civ. And yeah, you just need to find a faction, and they will give you some work.

That Good?

west india man
Sep 24, 2008, 03:11 PM
:goodjob:I support the free states

sk8er AG
Sep 24, 2008, 04:13 PM
but how will we kno how the game is going, is a certian party elected every so often as in every few weeks. do we get like maps or something. Is the HoF a historically accurate map of the world?
sorry about asking so many questions, am thinking about joining a party

civplayah
Sep 24, 2008, 04:46 PM
We will know how the game is going because with every set of turns, or tunchats, played, the player has to give a report.

A new Prime Faction is elected after 5-10 turnchats, if not overthrown.
The map is a random one, because HoF is just a bug-fixer.

Also, don't be sorry about asking questions. It's been so long since new members have come (I think 1889 was the last one that stayed :lol:) we love it when anyone shows up!

Thinker19930602
Sep 24, 2008, 08:02 PM
Do I have to have a chatname to be a citizen?

Vandal Warlord
Sep 24, 2008, 08:03 PM
No, not really.

Thinker19930602
Sep 24, 2008, 08:04 PM
No, not really.

Ok, thanks.

Vandal Warlord
Sep 24, 2008, 08:05 PM
You are welcome. :)

Joe Harker
Sep 24, 2008, 08:06 PM
only if you want to attend a TC and then you can use your own user name :)

Thinker19930602
Sep 24, 2008, 08:14 PM
only if you want to attend a TC and then you can use your own user name :)

Huh?
TC???

Joe Harker
Sep 24, 2008, 08:18 PM
Sorry,

TC stands for turnchat, which that one of us plays the save for a couple of turns, governors post instruction of the person to play bye and run the nation for those turns

Here is the instruction thread

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=7278107#post7278107

If you want to chat then go to the toolbar at the top of the page, click on that then once it's loaded enther your name (can be anything) and pick turnchat as the server

sk8er AG
Sep 24, 2008, 08:21 PM
ok how do you join a party? will i be given work rite away or do i have to work my way up?

Joe Harker
Sep 24, 2008, 08:24 PM
Just ask in their thread, and most factions have good positions still open so if you want it , agin just ask :)

sk8er AG
Sep 25, 2008, 02:24 PM
ok thanx one more question if only one party is controling the game at a moment then what do the other parties do?

vra379971
Sep 25, 2008, 02:30 PM
It generally depends on the system.

However, our current system of government allows for certain oppertunities.

As we have gone to a Democratic Government, as along as you choose a part of Arete to live you can try and become a representative of your area. If you're not in power, your job is to act as the opposition and try to get your ideas through =)

The Turk
Sep 26, 2008, 09:31 AM
OK sign me up I want to be part of this, just tell me what to do and i'll get it done:)

Lord Civius
Sep 26, 2008, 10:43 AM
OK sign me up I want to be part of this, just tell me what to do and i'll get it done:)

Welcome Turk. All you have to do is sign up in the Citizen Registry (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=266332). Then read up in the first post of this thread. It will give you the overall picture of the Dgame along with a few links. I recommend starting in the Citizens Forum (http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=286), this is where the Faction threads are and where you will choose a city to reside in (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=291468). If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask.

lord drake
Sep 26, 2008, 12:28 PM
Also, don't be sorry about asking questions. It's been so long since new members have come (I think 1889 was the last one that stayed :lol:) we love it when anyone shows up!

i'm new too:)

:ar15:_______:run:
this is my faction^

The Turk
Sep 26, 2008, 08:36 PM
ok i just joined New Arkadia and i'm the only citizen of Barcelona, so do i pick whatever i want to do in the city?

thecommonnate
Sep 26, 2008, 09:29 PM
Post in the Arentanian Residency (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=291468) announcing your registry of a tile within the city's fat cross, all tiles are permitted to be used as a residency area, but some are not assigned to cities, all are assigned to states.

simmam31
Sep 30, 2008, 04:31 PM
Wait are you saying the civ 4 demogame IV has already started?

thecommonnate
Sep 30, 2008, 04:57 PM
No, we are still playing the civ 4 Demogame III, and we are in the 19th Century.

zxe
Sep 30, 2008, 11:28 PM
I've signed up in the registry and perused the Gameplay and RPG forums.

I must admit that I'm having a hard time understanding some parts of this. I understand that each player is a member of a faction, and that these factions determine the course of the civilization. But what is this about 'owning' cities and having companies, etc?

thecommonnate
Sep 30, 2008, 11:47 PM
Anything you see about ownership is concerning land. You can own tiles of land outside cities completely, and governors get the commerce and production outputs of the cities they govern, however that aspect has been dormant since the last election for Prime Faction (the current residing faction).

Companies are another story. In the RPG thread, you may want to create a company that manufactures or sells a certain resource or object you can legally use (if you own or are in contact with an owner of silks, you can start a business with them). You may also offer services or construction.

lord drake
Oct 01, 2008, 08:36 AM
so what could i do with a 1 hamer 1 gold tile?

Cyc
Oct 01, 2008, 01:30 PM
Your hammers and gold build up over time. You'd gather 1 of each for every turn played by a DP. You may want to buy some more lucrative tiles.

sk8er AG
Oct 01, 2008, 02:50 PM
Do we have to keep tack of this ourselves or does someone else keep track?

civplayah
Oct 01, 2008, 03:27 PM
If you are talking about RPG, no, Lord Civius does.

lord drake
Oct 03, 2008, 08:59 AM
Your hammers and gold build up over time. You'd gather 1 of each for every turn played by a DP. You may want to buy some more lucrative tiles.

ok so that explains what i do with the gold, now what do i use the hammers for?:sad:

Cyc
Oct 03, 2008, 01:36 PM
ok so that explains what i do with the gold, now what do i use the hammers for?:sad:

There are two things you can do with Hamers, lord drake.

1. You can sell them to a construction company at a discount price. Let's say the Construction company sell sell Hammers back to the market at 2 0r 3 Y per Hammer. You might be able to find a Construction company that will pay you 1 Y per Hammer.

2. You can put these Hammers into your existing home to increase the value of that home. This increases your net worth, enabling your to get more credit from a Bank. You can also build a new home with Hammers, but this is costly.

3. There is a third option, but that takes more Y. By starting your own Cnstruction company, you can sell Hammers back into the Construction Market at a set price (depending on the size of your company.

For more detailed info, please read the RPG thread about the rules. You will find posts about the Construction Market and then an edit to that post. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=7293013&postcount=8)

lord drake
Oct 04, 2008, 08:52 AM
ok thanks. :)

civplayah
Oct 27, 2008, 10:49 AM
Please update this.