Is AWESOME.

I am pissed off I didn't manage to take a picture of the burning tank (think hulk but smaller) as it pummelled me to death. Three other people and I spent over an hour, maybe hour and a half trying to beat subway on expert, then got a looping sound crash. We got ot the final room a few times, but the last time, there was a wtich up on the boardwalk so we didn't manage to get to the safe room :(\

If you preorder it on Steam you can download the demo, and it's worth it (also it is $5 less).

My computer just makes minimum system requirements so I'm not sure it would work on mine. Which means I have to wait for the public demo before I'm allowed to see. I am jealous of those who can buy L4D without worrying if their money will be wasted. :(

I'm one of those crazy people who use demos to decide if I want a game or not. So i'll wait.

i still dont get what the hell this games about...

i still dont get what the hell this games about...

Killing zombies.

Not sure if there's anything more to it than that, but hell, if it Valve manage to make it as fun, it won't matter.

There are very very very few co-op games for the PC, and Left 4 Dead is a 4 person co-op game, which you can play by yourself, with random people and/or people on your steam friends list through the campaign. The only other FPS co-op game I know of is the Synergy mod for Half-Life 2.

I tried it, it's awesome, end of story......

Really looking forward to this game. I didn't realise you got the demo early if you pre-order, so I'll be waiting a little longer to try it :)

I'm rather interested in this game and I may get it for the 360. Now, is it just a co-op game on the same set amount of levels? Or are there going to be different maps to play on?

Different maps that do different things every time you play them. There is 4 right now I think.

Only two maps in the demo, and it is all co-op, even singleplayer (the Ai fills in for any charactor without a player). I look forward to a few or several months time once community maps start comming out. As while the zombie placement is randomized each time you play (after each time ther team dies too, so no memorising anything!) the same 2 levels over and over again get's repeptitive by yourself.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/PrinceScamp/Left%204%20Dead/tankonfirepummel1za.jpg

I died. Also we killed a wtich. She was at the top (just outside the window) of the stairs that lead into the generator room at the end of the 2nd level, luckily it was all 4 of us that were together, usually there is one idiot who attracts her on purpose or someone rushing ahead or the other two are dead.

Witches really aren't that tough.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/PrinceScamp/Left%204%20Dead/dingdingthewitchisdead1za.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/PrinceScamp/Left%204%20Dead/witchdead1za.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/PrinceScamp/Left%204%20Dead/smokerkillsaferoom1za.jpg
Smoker killed me just as I closed the door, apparently he had been hiding in there for quite some time.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/PrinceScamp/Left%204%20Dead/l4dwtfpink1za.jpg
Okay, now I understand what people have said about odd textures, alt-tabbing fixes this. It happened to me twice now... only when you first load a map.

That purple stuff used to happen in CS:S too didn't it?

That purple stuff used to happen in CS:S too didn't it?

Having barely played that crap game, I don't know. It hasn't happened again, my graphics card was probably getting a bit hot (I really need to give it proper air conditioning and dust it off probably).

I think the demo has been released publicly today.

Yep, dowloading it right now...
Warning : 3Gb demo !! :eek:
Only six days left for me, I hope it's worth the wait. ;)

I was very impressed with the game. Wonderfully detailed maps, and amazing zombie movie action.

Yep, dowloading it right now...
Warning : 3Gb demo !! :eek:
Only six days left for me, I hope it's worth the wait. ;)

Are you sure? I downloaded the demo in about 4 hours at 160kbs. I don't know if I can pre-load the full game yet or not, havn't tried.

just downloaded it, took less than an hour surprisingly! I was going at around 600-700 kbs. :)

just downloaded it, took less than an hour surprisingly! I was going at around 600-700 kbs. :)

I want to have your internet connection's babies.

lol its just a normal cable internet, maybe i just got lucky? :D

and the demo is pretty fun...but it seems like it would get repetitive over time? :undecide:

lol its just a normal cable internet, maybe i just got lucky? :D

and the demo is pretty fun...but it seems like it would get repetitive over time? :undecide:

Try playing on Expert or Advance with other players, especially friends (real and/or internet).

The AI that takes over when a player goes idle or when a playable character has no player is actually really really good. And the AI that controls your enemies, how they spawn, from where, how many, where items will be palced, etc based off your progress, health, kills, skill etc is awesomely good for replayability.

they finally opened up the demo to us plebs

if anyones up for a game, let me know

Very very fun, I'm looking forward to the full release :D

Try playing on Expert or Advance with other players, especially friends (real and/or internet).

The AI that takes over when a player goes idle or when a playable character has no player is actually really really good. And the AI that controls your enemies, how they spawn, from where, how many, where items will be palced, etc based off your progress, health, kills, skill etc is awesomely good for replayability.

I was thinking last night in bed after a two-hour binge of L4D check this out:

Let a player be the AI Director. It can be based on a points system and he controls where the guns and grenads spawn. If he places more grenades and the tier 2 weapons cache closer to the survivor spawn than he gets more points to purchase boomers, smokers, etc and during the gameplay, he can purchase a zombie swarm to try to overwhelm the survivors :-D. He could have a top-down view like a RTS kind of UI where he can choose among different menus to control where he wants the next zombie attack to come from and when

During the game he gets a constant trickle of points to keep the survivors on their toes, so they aren't just camping in one spot.

Yea you are going to run into asshats in public games who skimp out on dishing out equipment, but if the points and weapon caches were balanced it could be a lot of fun

I'm looking forward to versus mode and being a raper (hunter) or groper (smoker).

Tried it, and I agree : It's good fun ! :goodjob:
We should try to play together, that would be fun.
Anyone available around 11PM GMT+1 tonight ?

Detailed review :
Install and options are a no-brainer. Starting vid is pretty cool.
First game in single player, all settings are low but my poor laptop isn't down on his knees which is a good surprise. Controls intuitive, even the orders menu.
Progress thru the level and it really gets my heart beating hard. The mix of frenzied action and careful exploration is really good. Sound effects and music are suitably creepy.

Second game in MP, missed Captain2 because his game was full, but after a few failed attempts I find 3 other cool guys and we have a blast doing the mission twice.
I can say that saving your friends is really cool, first time I play a real co-op game (TF2 doesn't count) and the feeling is great.

So, yeah, don't know yet if I'll buy the full game, but it sure looks great.
:goodjob: Valve.

There's an orders menu?

TF2 isn't co-op :p

Aw man my computer can't run this.

My computer barely meets system requirements so a lot of things got in the way of me having fun. :(

Well, I played the demo on X-box and thought it was pretty awesome. However, my team didn't help me when a smoker grabbed me. :(

Tried it, and I agree : It's good fun ! :goodjob:
We should try to play together, that would be fun.
Anyone available around 11PM GMT+1 tonight ?


Hey I dont really "know" anyone here but I'd definately be up for playing with ppl I at least "semi-know-or-at-least-recognize-their-name-somewhat" :p I think it would make it alot more fun.

I'm EST time here...GMT - 5...so...is it 11PM GMT+1 right now? :crazyeye: I'd be up for a game later tonight...like...11-1ish GMT-5 if anyone else is. I'm on the CFC steam group as aManBearPig if anyone sees me on. :)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/Captain2/winxxors.png

:mischief:

Had a fun game with Phil and Captain2 until my connection broke (or did they kick me ? :shifty:).

We had lots of fun, I kept startling witches and blowing boomers at point blank. :lol:
Definitely needed a 4th, so I strongly recommend people to get the demo.

EDIT : Nice Xpost, Cap ;)

or that time we were at the safe door and me and captain 2 decided to hunt witch, not found her, but in the meantime Izipo attracted a whole horde on himself :lol:

How BIG is the DEMO ?
and how much of the game does it provide ?

Left4Dead is pricey currently will have to pick it up after the post christmas sales when its cheaper.


EDIT: Looks like I'll be playing the girl AGAIN :X

How BIG is the DEMO ?
and how much of the game does it provide ?

Left4Dead is pricey currently will have to pick it up after the post christmas sales when its cheaper.


EDIT: Looks like I'll be playing the girl AGAIN :X

It features 2 levels out of 4 from the first movie, and only has the campaign mode.

Also I dibsed Zoey first, this crappy comp didn't post my post >.>

Also I don't know if it will be cheaper after christmas or not. It's currently (afaik) still $44.99 instead of $49.99

Supposedly Circuit City will have it for $39.99 next week. :cool:

I though Circuit City was going under with the economy. Now they have discount prices on Left 4 Dead? :hmm:

Well it's what I heard on CAG (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203104) *I think you have you sign up to see the link :(

Yeah I heard on the news today Circuit City had filed for bankruptcy protection, and then I found a few jobs listed for local The Souce/Cicruit City stores.

They're cutting something like 20% of their stores. But obviously they have to do something to get people into the stores. Some sales a company takes a loss on in the hopes bringing people in makes them buy more stuff overall.

Ack, I tried to kill Captain2 but was taken out by a hunter.

That was brilliant fun tonight, definitely showed me how awesome this is online. Looking forward to some online matches with the full game :D

http://i35.tinypic.com/wjw7sl.jpg

that was a great game tonight, and man, expert is hard. I like it. :D

I hope it comes in stores, cant really buy crap online.

Subi, you're a bastard. I'm never trusting you near a safehouse again.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3848/l4d1hf1.png

:lol:

Don't forget how I single handedly saved your butt in the game after that. I could have easily left you to the Boomer or Hunter :p

Like Azza's turrets, I seem inexplicably drawn to boomers.

You're a magnet for everything. In the last little stretch after I rescued you from the respawn, you were attacked by a Smoker, Hunter, and Boomer. And not to mention you only died because you went and angered that Witch.

You're a magnet for everything. In the last little stretch after I rescued you from the respawn, you were attacked by a Smoker, Hunter, and Boomer. And not to mention you only died because you went and angered that Witch.

:rotfl: :rotfl:

Ack, I tried to kill Captain2 but was taken out by a hunter.

yeah that was awesome, later I killed that other guy we were playing with an a horde came out of nowhere and killed me

I think its an anti-TK device

yeah that was awesome, later I killed that other guy we were playing with an a horde came out of nowhere and killed me

I think its an anti-TK device

No, there was a boomer I think.

nope, no boomer, just a horde

we were still in the safehouse

After many hardfought battles with Subi, a friend of mine and this random guy who then left finally and we got someone else who helped us win, we beat it on Expert.

Of course I had to celebrate by throwing a gas can in after subi entered and shutting the door on him so he burns to death, shooting my friend in the face with the shotgun and then winning it just as subi dies :p

I'm totalling going to get you for that one

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/PrinceScamp/Left%204%20Dead/9f46c407f2a3994c79c0d3c023aed65bb10.png

THE BATHROOM DOES NOTHING!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/PrinceScamp/Left%204%20Dead/eecce616842691d6203c8b8ed0ec820b84a.png
On advanced, first game of the day. I think I had 82 kills, maybe 83.

EDIT: Also you can start pre-loading the full game now!

That Tank one was hilarious. You ran across the entire level and ended up dieing like the lawyer in Jurassic Park.

Great game last night, man expert is hard.
My computer literally died on me on the last game! I felt it was overheating and then, bam, hard switch off!
First time that ever happened, got scared so I let it cool down the whole night and it seems to run fine now.

I'll be on tonight if someone's interested, but probably only in Advanced skill ;).

My younger brother downloaded the demo for the Xbox 360.

Got the demo, been playing with a friend of mine, started immediately on Expert.

Oh god this game is amazing but hard.

It bites that I paid for the game, it is entirely pre-loaded on my system, and I still have to wait 4 more days >_<

It bites that I paid for the game, it is entirely pre-loaded on my system, and I still have to wait 4 more days >_<

At least you have it though, right?

Expert mode is awesome.

Downloaded the demo yesterday, played it a bit today - it is good fun.

GG Pugwash. Out of interest was I randomly shooting at folk when I quit? I was trying to hit the 'exit game' button and it kept having me fire the shotgun. I was having some nasty connection problems in that second map, though :p

GG indeed, was fun. I didn't notice you randomly shooting at the end, you just kinda stood there. The exact same thing happened to me though when I tried to quit. Had to alt-tab out then ctrl-alt-delete it. Weird.

I tried the demo too. Really nice atmosphere (feels like Dawn of the Dead and 28 days combined ) and good game elements (the odd zombie with special powers boomers, smokers, and hunters). The lack of destructibility in the environment, plus lack of HL2 physics, makes it a bit on the lame side for me.

Would love to see a L4Dead and TF2 cross over though. Pyros burning zombies would be a riot.

I tried the demo too. Really nice atmosphere (feels like Dawn of the Dead and 28 days combined ) and good game elements (the odd zombie with special powers boomers, smokers, and hunters). The lack of destructibility in the environment, plus lack of HL2 physics, makes it a bit on the lame side for me.

Would love to see a L4Dead and TF2 cross over though. Pyros burning zombies would be a riot.

I was thinking of how fun it's be to play as TF2 chars with hordes of zombies to just slaughter.

There isn't a lot you can destroy anyways, and no reason to waste ammo taking apart cupboards/cabinents that could take quite a few shots to actually fall apart. And I don't see how you can know if it lacks HL2 physics or not.

http://kotaku.com/5088007/left-4-dead-teases-tenth-team-fortress-2-class

Collect all 10 Team Fortress 2 action figures!

One thing that has always pissed me off, why are there little things like this cerial box, and other signs with writing in games, that is actual writing but too pixellated to read without somekind of magnefying/clarification device?

http://kotaku.com/5088007/left-4-dead-teases-tenth-team-fortress-2-class

Collect all 10 Team Fortress 2 action figures!

One thing that has always pissed me off, why are there little things like this cerial box, and other signs with writing in games, that is actual writing but too pixellated to read without somekind of magnefying/clarification device?

I really liked the messages in the first safe room. Messages from the people before us, reminding us were not the only people dealing with the crisis. I also liked the ads and signs I've seen. For whatever reason they seem so much more realistic than similar ads and signs in other games.

I was thinking of how fun it's be to play as TF2 chars with hordes of zombies to just slaughter.

There isn't a lot you can destroy anyways, and no reason to waste ammo taking apart cupboards/cabinents that could take quite a few shots to actually fall apart. And I don't see how you can know if it lacks HL2 physics or not.

Its obvious that there is no physics other than the character models. Compare it with HL2, and there's no puzzles, walls blowing up, objects to move and stack, etc... It'd be fun to have like a 'confidence course' where the team has to communicate to overcome obstacles--building bridges, etc...


Cool, one more TF2 class? What do you think it will be? A tank driver / armored golf cart? A helicopter? Maybe a Ranger who can climb walls and rappel down ropes?

I don't recall walls blowing up in Hl2, and I have seen items get knocked around (dish soap bottle, cereal box, etc). So I'm pretty sure it has the physics (which, really, are Source Engine and not specific to HL2, HL2 just uses them a lot more).

Agree with Scamp. The physics are there, it's just that there is less of it than HL2. Haven't you seen tanks blowing stuff up and throwing them in your direction ?

Btw, I just had a very good news by email, so as an instant gratification I pre-ordered L4D.
Can't wait until tomorrow. :)

Tomorrow? Wait, WHAT!? ALREADY! WOOOOO! HELL YEAH!

I didn't even look at the date yesterday :p

I think that, however, I will play through the singleplayer first, as the servers will no doubt be JAM PACKED for the first while.

For some reason I had it in my mind that the game was released Wednesday. Very handy, as I only "pre"ordered and downloaded the game yesterday.

So far good fun. Going through the single player for now, got a bit surprised when the second level from the demo turned out to be larger than what it was. Spent ages in what used to be the safe room wondering why the level wouldn't change :p

Just wait until you get to the last mission on that campaign. I've tried it three times, and have yet to beat it on Advanced. Its insane.

I already have, and I can't beat it. I think the 'finale' parts definitely need the co-op help.

I managed to kill the Tank, but after that a huge wave of infected showed up and slaughtered us. Definitely need some human support.

I think they need more save points, as the 2nd level that we played on the demo, still has a office building and a whole street left! Die there and you start from the beginning!

Started as soon as I got home (around 07:30) and finally stopped just now after getting beaten over and over again at the top of mercy hospital. My AI partners are just morons.
And I can't believe how many times our demise came from a smoker. The last time he got me seconds before I finished to use my medkit, while at the same time of course the last AI got vomited on by a boomer :rolleyes:

Good fun, very intense action and nice levels.
Played advanced and the challenge is quite steep, I can't even begin to imagine what expert is going to be like.

Downloading the full game from Steam as I speak, 13% so far. Can't wait to play it.

A bunch of us need to get together and see if we can beat the No Mercy campaign, since the AI survivors sucks once you reach the rooftop. All it takes is one Smoker to pull them away and the others run blindly after them and get slaughtered by a swarm.

A bunch of us need to get together and see if we can beat the No Mercy campaign, since the AI survivors sucks once you reach the rooftop. All it takes is one Smoker to pull them away and the others run blindly after them and get slaughtered by a swarm.

I played through them all on Normal, I wasn't looking for a challaenge only to compelte them. It's fecking easy and the AI only screwed up once, when they decided to feel each other below me up while I (Zoey) was being strangled by a smoker half way up a building.

I think I'll give it a try on Normal now, instead of doing it on Advanced. That way I might actually survive the rooftop.

A not so safehouse

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb79/subesia/lulztank.png

Shake your booty! Shake your booty! Shake shake shake your booty!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/PrinceScamp/Left%204%20Dead/a6d2f239c2de375f9d98ca684ada0ce2b27.png

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/PrinceScamp/Left%204%20Dead/5d385c2010ea46883adac557b6c80e75f3e.png

Just finished the second campaign on advanced.
Got some real thrills on the last run, but Louis saved the day against the second tank.
Francis was already dead, Bill and I incapacited and the tank was chasing Louis around. It was very tense and I was sure we were all gonna die when he suddenly reappeared and we managed to finish him off (he literally died on top of me). Louis helped me up and we abandoned poor Bill behind some bushes while we made our dash to the boat as the final horde was coming.

Great stuff :)

The moment I have time to play the game again, it says that the game is currently "unavailable" and that I should try again later. I BOUGHT THIS GAME, IT SHOULD NOT FAIL.

Did you log-in to Steam? The catch with all things you buy with Steam, is that you have to be logged in to Steam, even if you aren't online. So don't lose your passwords/account.

Whenever Steam is being a pain, restart it/your computer.

The moment I have time to play the game again, it says that the game is currently "unavailable" and that I should try again later. I BOUGHT THIS GAME, IT SHOULD NOT FAIL.

It did that to me too when I tried to join a server that a friend was on. I just clicked the icon again and it worked.

Still not working, so I'm reinstalling. *grumble*

I have played a total of 9 hours and it already feels like I've seen everything the game has to offer: killing hundreds of zombies over and over again. Compared to The Orange Box the game is a bad purchase and along with Spore one of the more disappointing releases of the year

Still not working, so I'm reinstalling. *grumble*

RELOADING!

RELOADING!

No kidding, I've got their voices permanently etched in my mind. :king:

Oh man L4D. I just got out of a match with a few bros, game's pretty awesome but man. It sucks because we were playing Blood Reaper and out of . .. .. .. .ING nowhere a damn tank comes out of a bush and falcon punches me while everyone else hops into the APC.


This is possibly the most bull shittiest way to die in a zombie invasion.

I think that's hilarious, it's happend to teammates of mine, and once to me too on the airport level (well, the 2nd tank attacked and I rushed towards it only to be knocked down by a flying dumpster and oummled to death).

Happened to me last night in Dead Air too. Got killed on the frikkin' ramp :mad:

And in the level before that I got revived and the tank appeared and killed me pronto. This was right in front of the safe house of course.

Still, it's quite laggy for me, but I have lots of fun.

I played this. It's not very scarry. :( Sure it has some scarry moments but they get boring after a while. It's not scarry in the "Undying" sense.

But this game was probably made for multi so meh. It's an ok game tho. :)

It's not really meant to be scary, it's pretty much an action game.

It's fun, but terribly repetitive. I've not touched it since the week it came out, mostly gone back to playing TF2.

I only really play it when I feel like shooting puny zombie mortals inthe face with the hotgun, repeatedly, or even better if people on my friends list are playing. I've got like 5 games I'm switching around playing right now, not enough time gah!

It's not really meant to be scary, it's pretty much an action game.

It's fun, but terribly repetitive. I've not touched it since the week it came out, mostly gone back to playing TF2.
I finished the first act(or whatever it is) and unless the next acts have 5-10 new monsters per act i won't bother trying them. So ?

I like it for having a quick blast, similar to CS or DoD. Playing it with groups of friends is great fun at all times.

Heretic, join the Steam Group (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=281344)? Would be fun to have a game sometime.

Heretic, join the Steam Group (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=281344)? Would be fun to have a game sometime.
There might be a problem with that. :mischief:

Let's just say that i can't play multi on steam. :D

Left 4 Dead is by far the most fun when played with friends. Getting into a game with N3tshark is incredibly fun.

A stranger gifted it to me, reaffirming my faith in humanity.

It's fun. The microphone banter is like half of the game. Especially with friends, or when you loosen up with strangers. I don't know, I like being overdramatic.

"Oh God, it's a hunter, get it off me, get it off me!"

My advice is to play the campaigns on expert. Forget "normal", it's ridiculously easy. That also lengthens the time you get to spend playing the game! Yay!

But yeah, expert mode is like a movie. We had some pretty epic moments.

Hmm, that's cool.

Philippe, Kan, you and me should try to set up a game soon. (or anyone else willing).

Saturday evening would be good for me, what about you guys ?

why is everyone in the assumption, i have the game. :lol:

Didn't we play together ?

Unless it was the demo, right ?

it was the demo. if there would be some random stranger giving me left4dead, i'd happily join;) (lucky lucky lucky lightfang)

Hmm, that's cool.

Philippe, Kan, you and me should try to set up a game soon. (or anyone else willing).

Saturday evening would be good for me, what about you guys ?

I probably won't be free Saturday evening, just Friday through the day then Sunday/Monday evenings.

That said, I am playing it quite a bit with a friend I bought the game for (sorry Philippe :p) and we're normally in friend-only games set up by myself. If you or anyone else here see me feel free to join, or simply give me a buzz if I'm on Steam and not playing anything :)

hooray, I was given Left 4 Dead :p

If theres a planned game feel free to let me know

Hmm, that's cool.

Philippe, Kan, you and me should try to set up a game soon. (or anyone else willing).

Saturday evening would be good for me, what about you guys ?

Saturday evening (are we in the same timezone) is probably good.

But seriously, just give me a buzz and I'll probably do it. You all have my contact information, and I'm always on AIM/MSN and usually on Steam.

I have all day Saturday off so anytime should be good (afaik).

I bought the game for myself just today, must say its fun(but repetive) just on single player. I'm up for any kind of game at anytime.

I bought the game for myself just today, must say its fun(but repetive) just on single player. I'm up for any kind of game at anytime.

Why would you ever play single player on Left 4 Dead, when it's so clearly a cooperative game?

Because it's best to get some basics down in singleplayer before stumbling into multiplayer and mingebagging everyone.

^Correct answer :)

I like to make sure I have the basics down by playing singleplayer. Chances are I would have been jumping on alarmed cars, shooting at witches on sight and not knowing how to heal folk if I had jumped straight in.

It's a great game. Talk about a sleeper. Gamespot has given it the Best Shooter 2008 award. Well worth a try, specially if you are playing as the zombies, heh heh!

Because it's best to get soem basics down in singleplayer before stumbling into multiplayer and mingebagging everyone.

That's why you

1. watched the introduction movie
2. have the helpful pop-up text
3. have friends who won't kill you for being dumb and will in fact even give you pointers.

1. watched the introduction movie

Helps in knowing how to play the game about as much as the Battlefield 2 or TIE Fighter intros do. All are brilliant films, but the only real way to learn the game is to actually play the game.

2. have the helpful pop-up text

Is very handy :goodjob:

3. have friends who won't kill you for being dumb and will in fact even give you pointers.

But if you don't have any friends with Left 4 Dead, then single-player is a good way to get started and learn the basics, right? Then you can quite happily jump into multiplayer games with the knowledge that you're not a complete eejit.

:)

That's why you

1. watched the introduction movie
2. have the helpful pop-up text
3. have friends who won't kill you for being dumb and will in fact even give you pointers.

Even so, it's still best to do some singleplayer first, especially if you can't get any friends on for a mulitplayer game.

Helps in knowing how to play the game about as much as the Battlefield 2 or TIE Fighter intros do. All are brilliant films, but the only real way to learn the game is to actually play the game.

But Kan, the Valve team specifically put introduction movie there to instruct you on the game! (http://l4d.com/blog/post.php?id=2081) D:

Traditional in-game training mechanics didn't make sense for Left 4 Dead, because they would take away from the sense that players had been immediately dropped into a very real, very dire zombie apocalypse. We didn't want a slow ramp-up in gameplay to take away from that tension. As a result, we decided that it would make sense to begin the game experience with a non-interactive introductory movie that could get players revved up and subtly cue them to important gameplay mechanics such as "light disturbs the witch" and "car alarms attract the horde."

I dunno, it worked for me.

But if you don't have any friends with Left 4 Dead, then single-player is a good way to get started and learn the basics, right? Then you can quite happily jump into multiplayer games with the knowledge that you're not a complete eejit.

:)

Yes. :p

But Kan, the Valve team specifically put introduction movie there to instruct you on the game! (http://l4d.com/blog/post.php?id=2081) D:



I dunno, it worked for me.

:lol: Quite true. It did also teach me to keep shooting those dead-folk.

Yes. :p

:love:

Don't get me wrong, Lightfang, playing the game on multiplayer is the only way to play for me, and it's the only way you're going to get the best out of the game. My only point was that single-player does serve a purpose, and that is for new players to learn the basics before throwing themselves into random servers.

And speaking of which, I hope to see you again online soon. You seem to be quite delighted with charging ahead, which I love :D

Don't get me wrong, Lightfang, playing the game on multiplayer is the only way to play for me, and it's the only way you're going to get the best out of the game. My only point was that single-player does serve a purpose, and that is for new players to learn the basics before throwing themselves into random servers.

And speaking of which, I hope to see you again online soon. You seem to be quite delighted with charging ahead, which I love :D

I know, I just wanted to be a polemist. And anyway, I just charged into multiplayer without knowing what I was doing, 'cause I'm that awesome. :p

I was delighted with being macho man because you guys were playing on advanced, and I usually play campaign on expert, so I felt sufficiently good.

But man, for the love of God (this is not directed at you in particular, just at the general L4D population)

1. If I'm crouching there shooting at something, don't run in front of me and make me shoot you. I don't like doing it, and I don't think you like getting shot.
2. Crouch if you're in the front so those of us in the back can shoot over you. And don't randomly stand up either, tell us or wait for the zombies to be eliminated.
3. If I've just been vomited on by a Boomer, don't dance in front of me. I can't really see where you are and I'm shooting semi-randomly, so don't make me hold back against the horde around me because I'm afraid of hitting you.
4. Get a microphone and talk, it's tons more fun that way.
5. Close the doors behind you, it slows zombies down.

4. Get a microphone and talk, it's tons more fun that way. .

I has one. Out of interest do folk have it set to 'push to talk' or 'open mike' for their games?

bloody hell, my latest game of left 4 dead was interesting

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/Captain2/strange.png

It turned into a Versus game despite being Death Toll and for some reason we spent five minutes trying to get a safe room door open that refused to comply.

To be fair, I blame Kan

So, anyone here have it for the 360? I'll be up for a game. My gamertag is Ninja Dude123.

Hah hah wow why did you buy it for the 360.

I have to say, i'll be getting it for the weekend.

one thing though, I think i did got a lot of experience for left4dead by having this passtime in counterstrike with two buddies to play against 20 expert bots with only knifes. Teamkill was of course on :D


and I played the demo, and that turned out well.

one thing though


WITCHES OUGHT TO DIE

I has one. Out of interest do folk have it set to 'push to talk' or 'open mike' for their games?

Push to talk. That's the only acceptable way to have it on. Nobody wants to hear you sneezing or telling your mom that you can't eat dinner 'cause you're in the middle of No Mercy.

Hah hah wow why did you buy it for the 360.

Because I felt like it. You got a promblem with that?

Because I felt like it. You got a promblem with that?

good luck finding others that will play with you. :lol:

They made it for 360? My god why.....

They made it for 360? My god why.....

For easy cash ?

I have to say, i'll be getting it for the weekend.

I'm glad I checked this thread before sending it over to you.

Everyone, report to destroying commie scum zombies tonight at around 8-9 pm.

8 or 9pm whose time? Eastren?

If he means 1 PM eastern (as he is Belgian so 8 PM EST would be very early in the morning for him) that would work better for me (I have to deal with an infected cut first).

EDIT: @Lightfang (and everyone): If you have just been vomited on, DO NOT SHOOT if your friends are near you, use melee until you can see very well.

This game looks fun....but not fifty dollars worth of fun.....

This game looks fun....but not fifty dollars worth of fun.....

It is on sale for $37.49 until January 2nd. You seem to be extremely picky (not that I blame you) but I think you will like it and I'd gladly play some games with you to get you started.

Im amazingly picky, very very very few games I would say are actually worth fifty dollars. I think I might get it tomorrow in hard copy, Im not sure yet though.

Izipo is a hero, even when the APC arrives, he stays behind to battle a tank and the huge horde.

Heroic, or just stupid?

Or both?


Heh, actually that's pretty cool. The thing I miss abotu the demo, was that it was perfectly fine to just kill the rest of your team in funny ways at the end of the level, but now you really can't do that :(

Izipo is a hero, even when the APC arrives, he stays behind to battle a tank and the huge horde.

Heroic, or just stupid?

Or both?


Actually I'm just very clumsy. This time I got stuck on the side of the APC and got rushed by zombies. Fighting my way to the rear, the tank came upon me and you know the rest.

An amazing feat of stupidness was last night in the VS. game (farm map). I was at the end of the bridge IN THE SAFE HOUSE, 2 of my mates were dead and only Zoey remained pinned down at the other end of the bridge. As the map wouldn't end until she died or got saved, I decided to go out again to try to kill the tank.

Full health and ammo, what could go wrong ?

Little did I except a smoker from a hundred feet away... :(

Anyway, games with you guys are a lot more fun, I gotta say. The mike action is especially pleasant when I remember to turn the volume up.

I hate yelling at people, but with Izzy it's ok because he's an endearing character. He's that clumsy guy who's annoying but everybody loves him.

:p

IZIPO GET IN THE CORNER

DUDE, GET IN THE CORNER

IZIPO, ICI!!!

*Izipo gets constricted by smoker*

*sigh*

I love playing with Izipo.

Izipo sounds like the sort of player I want to play with. I seem to be rather foolish as well in Left 4 Dead :(

I had a game with Mr Black, Izipo and someone else from my friends list (who was a tad clumsy too). It was a lot of fun :) Too bad we didn't finish the level (4th movie) as a couple of us had to go, I had to work, but yeah it was fun. The tanks kept screwing us over though.

oh boy lobby system sure can suck. after a campaign i wanted to paly a versus, i invite some poeple over, when we are abotu to start, i get computer problems with the game. (the game crashed) and when i try to rejoin it says it fail to join game and then after a full reboot, the game is full.

bah.

Meh versus is flippin frustrating anyways.

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/c8933ddc7d5bd8fad22c6672e5d26da25913e0f5.png
In izipo, philippe, Captain2 and I's run on normal Death Toll I was sitting on the ledge trying to see where the smoker was , and then eh tongued be THROUGH THE CANAPY (cloth stuff).

Versus is an exercise in frustration if you have a team who refuses to work together. I tried taking control and barking commands to no avail.

So I got owned by Phil when we played, since his team actually listened to him.

Eh that is frustrating too, but I don't have that problem when playing with people on my friends list.

I've never tried Versus Mode and normally whenever one of you guys shoot me an invite I don't have enough time or I'm busy :(

Ok, why does the floor and that chair look strangely familiar? It looks like the same garbage on the floor texture in HL2 :run:.

I just hope Garry would program Garry's Mod to enable it to mount L4D.

We unlocked a secret today!

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8248/23797600jf7.png

yeah, Kan and I stumbled across versus in Death Toll a little while ago

maybe its a test of sorts?

I dont get it...whats the secret

I dont get it...whats the secret

Versus mode is only available on No Mercy and Blood Harvest.

This isn't quite as funny in a screenie as it was in game, but during the match last night I was stalking up behind the survivors when Captain2 comes bombing round the corner on fire and charges into a nearby room.

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/7493/l4dvshospital02subway00ra0.jpg

What a fun game last night. 8 friends versus was amazing.
Yeah I'm very, very, clumsy and clueless. But I love playing with you guys.
So, I tried to switch on my mike, did it work or what ?

I'm game for a rematch tonight, the usual time.
See you all.

:lol: I would know that someone would be snapping pictures of me looking like a fool

http://left4deadforums.com/1669-deathtoll-deadair-maps-versus.html

I ended up in a versus map of Dead Air while trying to do a campaign run with Netshark once, it was kind of nice to only have witches and normal infected.

@CivGeneral: It is, they reuse a number of things from Half-Life as well as adding their own. I really hope Garry adds it to GMOD.

@CivGeneral: It is, they reuse a number of things from Half-Life as well as adding their own. I really hope Garry adds it to GMOD.
No wonder I found a roll of paper towels from Counter Strike: Source in one of L4D's screenshots :lol:.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dc/Left_4_Dead_screenshot.jpg
Screenshot from good olde wikipedia. Damn, the zombies look uglyer than HL2's zombies


Why do I have the sudden urge to get some L4D models lurking in garrysmod.org and have a bunch of TF2 characters fending off L4D zombies, or have Father Gregori the only survivor fending off L4D zombies in Garry's Mod :lol:.

Though I was not the only one with that idea (http://garrysmod.com/challenge/show/?id=38&page=1).

There was discussions in various places that Garry may implement L4D mounting in Garry's Mod. Though right now, most of the L4D content are extracted as an addon format (I had to do this with other mods that I just want the content, such as Iron Grip: The Oppression).

Installing Left 4 Dead now, Can't Wait to Play! :D

Installing Left 4 Dead now, Can't Wait to Play! :D

Give me your steam ID so I can add you to my friends list and we can go romping together through fields and urban settings.

Give me your steam ID so I can add you to my friends list and we can go romping together through fields and urban settings.
He's Coolio [NGC]. In the Steam thread, also is in the CFC Steam group.

:p

I've played this game on the XBox 360. I can't say I've enjoyed it. The graphics aren't that good, multiplayer is awful, and the controls seem to be from 15 years ago. I've played games like GoW2, MoO:WaW, and Dead Rising(to add a zombie game). This isn't even a flash in the pan.

Am I missing a lot because I'm playing console or what? I don't understand the hype.

It's better on PC.

How can you even play L4D on a console?

I've played this game on the XBox 360. I can't say I've enjoyed it. The graphics aren't that good, multiplayer is awful, and the controls seem to be from 15 years ago. I've played games like GoW2, MoO:WaW, and Dead Rising(to add a zombie game). This isn't even a flash in the pan.

Am I missing a lot because I'm playing console or what? I don't understand the hype.

The basic controls in FPS games have changed little since DOOM (forward, backwards, strafeing left or right, use mouse to shoot, space to jump, crouching, possibly a running/walking button (which i don't think was in DOOM), reloading, mouse wheel or number keys to select weapons).

IIRC GoW2, Dead Rising (no idea what MoO:WaW is) are third person console shooters, designed specifically (dumbed down) for the console and it's crowd and definately different to L4D.

I have none of the problems you have with my PC version.

I might consider getting this game. How well will this game work on a Intel Core i7-920 2.67 GHz processor (Note It's a quad core processor that acts like it has eight processors :eek: ).

IIRC GoW2, Dead Rising (no idea what MoO:WaW is) are third person console shooters, designed specifically (dumbed down) for the console and it's crowd and definately different to L4D.

:rolleyes:

Just because you don't like them, doesn't mean it's dumbed down.

I've played this game on the XBox 360. I can't say I've enjoyed it. The graphics aren't that good, multiplayer is awful, and the controls seem to be from 15 years ago. I've played games like GoW2, MoO:WaW, and Dead Rising(to add a zombie game). This isn't even a flash in the pan.

Am I missing a lot because I'm playing console or what? I don't understand the hype.

I've actually had great fun with the console version. I don't know why everyone is so bummed out about it. Just play with your friends, because the average person you get randomly paired with is usually an idiot, someone who doesn't have a mic, or a combination of both.

I might consider getting this game. How well will this game work on a Intel Core i7-920 2.67 GHz processor (Note It's a quad core processor that acts like it has eight processors :eek: ).

I don't know, but probably fine. Left 4 Dead's been pretty optimized.

You can handle TF2, so you can handle L4D.

First game on Advanced, I had the worst and most hilarious round ever.

It shall henceforth be known as the Comedy of Errors, or How NOT to play L4D.

We were playing No Mercy campaign, and in the first level, we did fine. Oh sure, a Witch got scared because we tried to avoid it and couldn't manage it, but nothing too serious.

Sewer level, god dammit. First, a witch was in the tunnel in our direct path, and we couldn't avoid it. We tried walking around it, and it attacked us. Then, when we got to the door part, a Tank came before we could pull the switch and killed two of us, and left me and another person with 40 health. We pulled the switch, and a Smoker got my last comrade. As I tried to save him, I got owned by 50 zombies attacking me, and we had to restart.

Next try, a Boomer owns us back in the Subway. We lose 50% health, all of us in the subsequent attack. We manage to get to the switch part, and then my comrade from last round throws a Molotov and incapitates one of our teammates who had the last pipe bomb... We manage to get through and save him, and we get to the street and survive. Now we're going to the pawn shop, and we hear a witch. We manage to avoid her, but then the horde comes and almost kills us. Then my mouse glitches and shoots the car alarm somehow, and we rush to the safehouse. After the door closes but before the game ends, I shoot Louis's player in the head, by accident. It was hilarious.

Next level = WTF? Tank owns us near the beginning in the shop. We managed to scare the Witch because the player shines a flashlight. We lose all our medpacks and we all have 50 health left. More boomers, more hunters. We manage to get to the safehouse regardless. Then, we get completely owned at the elevator level, first by a random tank which kills us all, then the gets caught by a Smoker and we gotta save him and we all get killed in the process again. Third try was fine, and we got to the elevator.

After that, the final level. First, we get owned by a Boomer and a Hunter which kills us along with the horde of zombies. Next, someone is incaiptated from trying to kill the Witch in our direct path, but we save him. We subsequently get to use the radio, and hide in the closet. God dammit, the player throws a Molotov and kills us in the closet. I shoot him in the spawn and revive him.

Next try, we hide in closet again. Then, Boomer blows up on us. A Smoker captures one of us, and we try to save him. We die in the attempt. Next try, we go onto a rooftop and try to wait it out. Smoker takes me and I get back to roof. Hunter rapes me, because everyone else except one fell down. And that one is the who couldn't get to me. The rest die. We all shoot the again in the spawn.

Final try, we hide in closet. We all get pipe bombs. We hold off hordes, and we kill all the tanks. When the helicopter came, I tried to throw a pipe bomb, and while I was trying to, another Hunter rapes me. At the same time, a Smoker takes Louis's player. He dies, but I survive to throw the pipe bomb. The rest of us get onto the helicopter, including the .

Last stats: Lowest Player Damage:

Me (Bill): 4058.

Here's a little tip from a crazy tripped out monk:

"In Ravenholm, you do well to be vigilant." - Father Grigori

Hopefully this can apply to L4D :p.

I miss Father Grifori, he'd kick soem zombie ass! The priest guy in L4D just tries to kill you by ringing theb ell and attracting hordes of zombies.

I miss Father Grifori, he'd kick soem zombie ass! The priest guy in L4D just tries to kill you by ringing theb ell and attracting hordes of zombies.

I love Churchguy! He's played by the same voice actor who did the Scout in TF2, and he did a great job.

It's sad, really. He let his friend in and he got infected. :(

I love Churchguy! He's played by the same voice actor who did the Scout in TF2, and he did a great job.

It's sad, really. He let his friend in and he got infected. :(
So the Boston accent is also present in the churchguy? ;)

I don't think so, the voice is not the same. They have the same person do GlaDOS as does the announcer voices in HL2 Deathmatch and TF2 iirc.

I don't think so, the voice is not the same. They have the same person do GlaDOS as does the announcer voices in HL2 Deathmatch and TF2 iirc.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1867910/

Nathan Vetterlein

...

# Left 4 Dead (2008) (VG) .... Church Lunatic
# Team Fortress 2 (2007) (VG) (voice) .... Scout

DISPROV'D.

But yeah, it's just a testament to his versatility that he can fool you! But he didn't fool me! :smug:

I was referring to the boston accent.

Father Grigori and Bill are voiced by the same guy, neat!

I was referring to the boston accent.

Father Grigori and Bill are voiced by the same guy, neat!
Is it just some strange and odd coincidence?! :run:

Probably not. Although now that I think about it I do see the similarities between grigori and bill's voice(s?), same with Scout and Churchguy.

A little behind the times, but I picked up this game for the 360 and boy is it fun.

Yesterday I managed to pull Louis out of the elevator as a smoker as the doors closed. Everyone was laughing as the rest of his team slowly rose to the upper levels, completely unable to help him.

STEAM is selling this for $25 this weekend.

Should I get it? How does it compare to Zombie Panic: Source, now that both are updated?

Yes you should get it.

woot. Finally I am going to buy this. I didn't think it was worth $40-50 before but $25 is just right :)

woot. Finally I am going to buy this. I didn't think it was worth $40-50 before but $25 is just right :)
Ditto, especially since I am going to get a headset & mic combo.

aw man I bought L4D yesterday for $30 and I was super excited thinking what a great deal it was. :ack: :wallbash:

I'd recommend you get Left 4 Dead, it's a great game and will likely be very well supported by Valve. :)

The matchmaking system can be pretty awful at times, but once you get into a game with some good players it is a blast to play.

I just got it. The versus system is a blast.

I hope when the SDK comes out that there'll be barricading like in Zombie Panic.

I can say that the blood smears and the boomer's vomit smears on the screen takes me back to SMOD's "water/blood smear on Freeman's glasses"

Images for comparison (and for those who have not played SMOD)
http://www.amphibian.myzen.co.uk/screenshots/config/cs_militia0059.jpg
Visor Blood Smear in SMOD

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/930/930763/left-4-dead-20081117111635859-000.jpg
Holy crap, Boomer puked on me! I told him not to puke on me! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJD0p4lgaA8)

I just played my strangest versus game yet. Me backed up by bots, vs. 4 humans. Playing as survivors, I was the only one that made it to the safe house. The bots kept rushing back to save their buddies on the final stretch of road. LOL, it taught me the opposite of teamwork in the homestretch.

Gonna leave http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcT1StlALaM
and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTxTWMA9iew

I know LightFang's going to want that bloody Yandere Witch. :3c

Gonna leave http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcT1StlALaM
and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTxTWMA9iew

I know LightFang's going to want that bloody Yandere Witch. :3c
I know I want the sound pack to make the common infected sound like Half Life 2 Zombies. I always wanna hear them yell out "YABBA MY ICING!" :lol:.

I prefer not to modify my games in stupid ways, thank you, "IIDX."

A boomer puked on me! And you guys were busy with a tank, I didn't want you to be rushed with zombies or me to be stomped by a tank.

Zombies definately are NOT impeded by water

Since I didn't have a screenshot I've moved the conversation here :p

and yeah I tried to get you up twice and both times it failed for some reason, its only when a zombie arm came above the water level I knew what was going on

I hate it when zombies get between me and a wall/barrier, they seem good at it no matter how much I'm pressed against it.

its only when a zombie arm came above the water level I knew what was going on
Zombies in water, nothing new to me. Seen em popping out of sewage filled water in HL2 and spawn them underwater in Garry's Mod.

yeah but subtly is hard to do in l4d :p

Wow, epic rape train. Me, CruX, DestroyR, and sup (all from CnB) just had a really amazing game on No Mercy against phil, Lighty, GiXXer, and Sparkyy. Score was something like 7300-500, I don't think the other team even managed to finish a map. :ar15:

I just got it, it's awesome.

I just got it, it's awesome.
Ooooh, what's your Steam account name? Or do you have the console version?

Wow, epic rape train. Me, CruX, DestroyR, and sup (all from CnB) just had a really amazing game on No Mercy against phil, Lighty, GiXXer, and Sparkyy. Score was something like 7300-500, I don't think the other team even managed to finish a map. :ar15:

No, we didn't. I suck at games in general, so I mean, the outcome wasn't something I hadn't expected.

Are there a set amount of infected on a level?

Should I just go as quickly as possible to a safe house? I try to clear out areas before I go, but they doesn't seem to matter.

Are there a set amount of infected on a level?

Should I just go as quickly as possible to a safe house? I try to clear out areas before I go, but they doesn't seem to matter.

The only reason to explore is because even the goodies are random---pills, extra medkits, & weapon upgrades.

In Versus mode, it's usually better to push forward, because the score benefits of reaching the end goal are extremely higher. But you also have to consider the meta-strategy of the infected's respawn timer, and also the local tactics of the map section that you're on. And sometimes the auto-shottie is a lifesaver.

Edit: My own question---best way to take down a tank?
My thoughts:
1. Everyone in a wide room with a single entrance, shoot the tank as he enters. Works well.
2. Run out to a clearing with few or no buildings (or few or no high surfaces around). Dance around the tank til it dies. Works ok.
3. Best loadouts are molotovs, hunting rifle or auto-shottie, and lay some gas cans out in the area of approach.

@Godwin: Generally it's best to move quickly, especially on higher difficulty levels (stick with your team though, don't rush ahead). There is no set number of zombies per level, they are unlimited and spawned randomly by the game/director. I don't think it's possible to meet more than one tank per level, except in the finales, and witches are fairly rare, but other than that they just keep on spawning.

@GoodGame: My general tactic for dealing with tanks (and I think this is the tactic most people fall back on) is to chuck a molo if I have one, then move into the nearest open area while pumping as many rounds into it as possible. The key thing really is to not get spread out, and for everyone to just keep shooting until it goes down.

Shotgun or Uzi?

Assault Rifle or Automatic Shotgun?

I got with Shotgun -> Assault Rifle

Anyone else?

EDIT: Thanks D_P

It's a matter of preference. I always go with the shotguns. :D

I love the shotguns too. Much more satisfying than the Uzi, rifle, or Assault rifle

Whenever there is a giant horde of infected rushing towards my team I always melee them with my shotgun.

The first time I accidentally shot a vehicle with an alarm...

Yikes.

Only use a shotgun if you know how to use it right without TKing your teammates and setting off car alarms.

If you're in tight quarters with the rest of the team, then you definitely should only melee. For example, when we all hide in a closet during a zombie rush, I never use the shotgun. Only melee or pistols.

Shotgun or Uzi?

Assault Rifle or Automatic Shotgun?

I got with Shotgun -> Assault Rifle

Anyone else?

EDIT: Thanks D_P

I'd say uzi trumps shotgun vs. horde, but shotgun is better than uzi for personal defense vs. infected. Only thing is I can sometimes shoot a hunter off someone with a uzi before I could bash him off. In Versus, when I want to lead the squad forward fast, I take the uzi.

M16 vs. Auto shottie? I prefer M16 vs. massed horde, though auto shottie is probably better vs. 1 to 3 horde at a time. Mostly it's a matter of range, which is a matter of locale, though anything shottie seems better vs. infected at close range. But if you have good range M16 will o' course keep infected away. And both are a matter of timing/burst control---because it's easy to waste ammo with either.

I'd say don't overlook hunting rifle, because it's pretty good against everything except massed horde at close range. You just have to melee a little more than usual vs. close horde, which is negated by twin pistols. And except for the wide cross hair delay while moving, it's pretty good, getting single shot kills and double kills.. It at least complements the auto shottie and M16 well, 1 per team is a good idea.

The UZI and M16 are best used when aiming at the zombie's head-level, you can easiy mow down an oncoming rush if you know where there head's will be, the shotguns are great for taking out large groups at once.

It comes down to personal preference really, as they are no better or worse than each other (except 1 pistol, uzi and pump shotgun are tier 1 weapons).

Is melee damage different between say, a shotgun and a pistol?

Not as far as I know. Either way though you push them back. With the pumpshotgun I sometimes keep it the whole time if I feel like hearing the sound (it has an extra feel to it) and I melee a zombie back and then shoot it.

WHACK WOOSH BLAM!

What's the best way to sneak up on a witch and blow her brains out her eye sockets?

I try getting close (flashlight off) and it says I startled her.

I try from farther away to shoot and it says I startle her still!

Should I be crouching?

Harder difficulties makes the witch startle easierly, but since she more often than not sits in your path at a choke point you can't avoid her. Have someone stand way back and shoot her, and everyone else open fire once she is startled and starts chasing him. Crouching may or may not help. Cr0wned is tricky, but try to sneak up behind her with an auto-shotgun.

I have taken out 19 witches w/o getting incapacitated. (I don't count the witches that I killed when she incapacitates me)

Cr0wned is tricky, but try to sneak up behind her with an auto-shotgun.
That is true, I have been trying to hone on the one shot kill to the head on thoes witches. I have yet to get the Cr0wned achievement (and that would be a prised screenshot in my collection)

Grrr, that damn Zoey won't jump down from the top of Mercy onto the Helipad! I'm ready to radio in for help and she stays up there until a Hunter gets her.

Huh, never had that happen. Just leave her if she does.

Grrr, that damn Zoey won't jump down from the top of Mercy onto the Helipad! I'm ready to radio in for help and she stays up there until a Hunter gets her.

Never had that happened to me with any other AI survivor. I have left AI survivors behind before, even on the end. Sometimes on the top of Mercy Hospitals, a tank can punt a survivor right off the building and into the pit of doom (It's a term I call for any part of the map where you fall results in instant death).

Man, I wish I had this for the PC.

That being said, has anyone had a person they are playing with kill the entire team, and then proceed to try and complete the level?

What's the best way to sneak up on a witch and blow her brains out her eye sockets?

I try getting close (flashlight off) and it says I startled her.

I try from farther away to shoot and it says I startle her still!

Should I be crouching?

The most awesome witch kill I've had was on the final level of Blood Harvest. The witch spawned at the bottom of the mini-cliff at the start of the corn field. My squad just line up on top of the cliff and...let her have it. Apparently, she couldn't climb up it, and wasn't alarmed by us standing over her.

The most awesome witch kill I've had was on the final level of Blood Harvest. The witch spawned at the bottom of the mini-cliff at the start of the corn field. My squad just line up on top of the cliff and...let her have it. Apparently, she couldn't climb up it, and wasn't alarmed by us standing over her.
I bet she was like, "Who in the world is shooting at me?!" :lol:

Man, I wish I had this for the PC.

That being said, has anyone had a person they are playing with kill the entire team, and then proceed to try and complete the level?

Maybe. :mischief: Usually Ithem are killed before leaving the room.

I've seen the which climb that cliff.

That is true, I have been trying to hone on the one shot kill to the head on thoes witches. I have yet to get the Cr0wned achievement (and that would be a prised screenshot in my collection)

I was exceptionally lucky in getting it. The witch was right in front of a machine gun emplacement :D

I was exceptionally lucky in getting it. The witch was right in front of a machine gun emplacement :D
Ahh yes, The Witches are no match for a machine gun! Whether it be a minigun (in L4D) or an MG42 :lol:.

Never had that happened to me with any other AI survivor. I have left AI survivors behind before, even on the end. Sometimes on the top of Mercy Hospitals, a tank can punt a survivor right off the building and into the pit of doom (It's a term I call for any part of the map where you fall results in instant death).

I got punted off at that point aswell, very annoying

I got punted off at that point aswell, very annoying
I always go for the fire and forget method of Kan. Launch a molotov at or in the tank's path and run like hell and wonder why Valve did not included a panzerfaust (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust) in the game as a disposable RPG.

Because panzerfausts aren't in use (although they would be cool). Most RPGs are not lying around either or widely distributed by the army.

Hopefully the SDK will allow some thematic remodelling. DoD + L4D should be pretty fun, as would a terrorist zombie plague of CS:S + L4D in a Vegas setting.

Definitely LAW rockets and AT4's wouldn't be let out of armories, but I bet a NG armory would be a good place for one in a campaign. Interesting none of the campaigns had safehouses at a NG armory, as they're all over the USA.

Or a L4D version of SMOD. I'm sure there would be a way to get weapons to spawn at key points the way SMOD does.

Fun game Subi, Phil and March. I really didn't mean to keep shooting you Subi but you like to jump out in front a lot.

I had no idea we were so close to being rescued at the end, otherwise I would have stayed a little further away from that tank.

Fun game Subi, Phil and March. I really didn't mean to keep shooting you Subi but you like to jump out in front a lot.

I had no idea we were so close to being rescued at the end, otherwise I would have stayed a little further away from that tank.

March here! :wavey:

Yeah, too bad you didn't get the achievement for surviving to the end. Also, man, Phil's mic was way too low. I couldn't hear anything. Maybe it's just because of his manly deep voice or something, but noises came that didn't coalesce into words.

March here! :wavey:

Yeah, too bad you didn't get the achievement for surviving to the end. Also, man, Phil's mic was way too low. I couldn't hear anything. Maybe it's just because of his manly deep voice or something, but noises came that didn't coalesce into words.

The funny thing is that the tank got off you to attack me as I was trying to shoot him off. Then you guys left me to die.:cry:

Also, could you hear me all right? I should probably change the option to push to talk cause every time I get surrounded I start muttering to myself.

Man, why do you guys always have games when I'm out for the night? :(

Man, why do you guys always have games when I'm out for the night? :(
Thats the question thats on my head to. I think we should organise some sort of CFC L4D play one weekend night in the Steam Group Forum :).

The funny thing is that the tank got off you to attack me as I was trying to shoot him off. Then you guys left me to die.:cry:

Also, could you hear me all right? I should probably change the option to push to talk cause every time I get surrounded I start muttering to myself.

Yeah, you were fine. Was I good? My microphone usually has technical difficulties.

Thats the question thats on my head to. I think we should organise some sort of CFC L4D play one weekend night in the Steam Group Forum :).

yeah that could be great, we could have a big Versus match between all of us :D

Versus match this past night: me, Rogoth, SAXsamus, and BigFrank against CivG, Hammurabi, Dr. House, and kirbysamus (who replaced PrinceScamp, who I guess ragequit after the first two matches because of utter pwnage). Here's a screen from the Subway, after both teams had been eviscerated by zombies:

What pwnage? I survived the first one. I went off to play TF2 as netshark started raving about what was going on, got stuck with a 10 minute update, missed all the action, and then went to EUIII.

yeah that could be great, we could have a big Versus match between all of us :D
Just don't pull any witches out of the cubicals ;). If there's a witch in the area, I'll be more than happy to Cr0wn her with old Super 90 :D.

Versus match this past night: me, Rogoth, SAXsamus, and BigFrank against CivG, Hammurabi, Dr. House, and kirbysamus (who replaced PrinceScamp, who I guess ragequit after the first two matches because of utter pwnage). Here's a screen from the Subway, after both teams had been eviscerated by zombies:
I remember the night that I got ambushed while trying to pick off a witch. Apparently the infected had other plans and reeled me towards her. It was also the night I reeled in a survivor and smacked it till his health was in the red. That's a L4D Fishing story I'll never forget.

I also snapped a really odd picture after a survivor killed me and had me flying off the roof. All I can say I was floating in mid air by the leg :o.

Whats the closest you guys ahve gotten to surviving but still getting killed? I just bought the farm on the blood farm level right on the ramp. Got pounced while laying down cover fire for the two straglers then got mauled to death

Someone told me a story that some guy missed the helicopter by falling the roof

Death Toll finale. We had called the boat, had fought it out to the end but a persistent tank scattered the group. Everyone else was killed, but I managed to make it to the dock as the boat pulled up. I was literally one step away from freedom when a smoker grabbed me from behind :(

Death Toll finale. We had called the boat, had fought it out to the end but a persistent tank scattered the group. Everyone else was killed, but I managed to make it to the dock as the boat pulled up. I was literally one step away from freedom when a smoker grabbed me from behind :(

That happened to me in verses in No Mercy. Snatched out of the helicopter by a smoker.

Yeah, you were fine. Was I good? My microphone usually has technical difficulties.
I really cant remember. I'm pretty sure I heard you at the beginning after that however not so much.