View Full Version : New Punishment Method?


Thunderfall
Aug 17, 2002, 07:49 PM
I just found a little hack that allows admins to change user's ability to change titles and avatars. Maybe I should install it and use it as a new punishment method... muahahaha :p :crazyeye:

King of Camelot
Aug 17, 2002, 08:19 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:( :lol: I don't care, I never get in trouble anyways.:p

Switch625
Aug 17, 2002, 08:43 PM
When you slap a ban on a poster, change their avatar to a skull and crossbones and change their title to "banned." It's sort of like people who get their names published in the newspaper for being delinquent on their taxes. Public shame is a good motivator to promote good behavior. :hammer:

cracker
Aug 17, 2002, 09:17 PM
I think you should make strategic use of the tool to reign in a number of marginal posters without actually resorting to a Ban.

I wouldn't do anything too childish, but the thought of losing the privilege of chosing your own avatar and having your title changed to "Strike one" or "Strike two" would be a very strong deterent for many people.

I have in the past suggested some form of "nonviolent" not from the public rating system that lets the admins and mods provide a clear mark or label for users that post good information. Using this restricted avatar control would fill a similar role by just targeting the unreliable sources.

I would think this tool would be most effective if used independently from other methods of behavior modification.

Fez_Monk
Aug 17, 2002, 09:41 PM
"I just found a little hack that allows admins to change user's ability to change titles and avatars. Maybe I should install it and use it as a new punishment method... muahahaha "


:eek: Mod fascism!

Knight-Dragon
Aug 17, 2002, 11:00 PM
You shld put in a fore-warning though, somewhere prominent. :D
All forum rule-breakers may be liable for a present from the CFC staff - a permanent avatar and title of the staffers' choice. :D

Octavian X
Aug 17, 2002, 11:20 PM
How long has this been a dictaorship?

Oh, right...

starlifter
Aug 18, 2002, 12:23 AM
All that sort of stuff (public whippings & postings of banned people) was discussed a few weeks ago.... after people thought about it, they realized it was not such a good idea...

I just found a little hack that allows admins to change user's ability to change titles and avatars. Maybe I should install it and use it as a new punishment method... muahahaha
I think he's just talking about people's ability (e.g., yes/no) to alter their titles/avatars. The Admins already put "Perm Banned" in the title for people like EyesofNight, etc. Avatars can be changed by TF already, that is nothing new.


But.... going back to prior posts in the avatar announcement thread, the new hack could be used to let people change an avatar, get it set, and then lock it from changing, much like a username does not change (unless by special request & dispensation). Personally, I think an user's avatar should be settled upon, and then not changed, at least not more than once a year or so... since avatars are used to easily spot posters. :)

Demographics: Of 20,000 registered users, about 280 exceed 300 posts. About 30 are close to 300.

VanillaCube
Aug 18, 2002, 06:29 AM
Originally posted by starlifter
Personally, I think an user's avatar should be settled upon, and then not changed, at least not more than once a year or so... since avatars are used to easily spot posters. :)

I completly agree with that, I mean to me that is what the use of an avatar is really good for.
so I can easily spot posters and they can express them selfs but the first to me is more Importaint :p personaly I remember faces better than I remember names, Im horrible with remembering names, I didn't know the name of one of my best freinds for about a year.
I never forget a face though :) so to me thats what those avatars actlike sometimes the peoples faces.

Loony BoB
Aug 18, 2002, 11:29 AM
A place that I was in recently once 'punished' people by giving them a stupid custom title and sig, something pointing out what they did wrong. Some people ended up liking the attention though, so they stopped. It's just a 'one chance' thing now, and no chance if nobody knows who you are.

BCLG100
Aug 18, 2002, 11:46 AM
a good punishment for simondarkshade would be fuzzy bears for instance

Hitro
Aug 18, 2002, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by Switch625
When you slap a ban on a poster, change their avatar to a skull and crossbones and change their title to "banned." It's sort of like people who get their names published in the newspaper for being delinquent on their taxes. Public shame is a good motivator to promote good behavior. :hammer:
I don't know, some people would probably regard that as kind of "cool".

Richard III
Aug 18, 2002, 12:07 PM
Make the title something along the lines of "dunce-cap" and "fool"

dannyevilcat
Aug 18, 2002, 01:46 PM
I think all the most effective punishment avatars and titles would be offensive to regular posters, and the watered down versions wouldn't have much effect. But it would be funny anyway. And you could always ban them if, thinking it was cool, continued to break the rules.

Strider
Aug 18, 2002, 05:13 PM
I think that if we change a user's avatar/title we should change their title to:

"You've been struck by a smooth moderater"

I think lowering a person's PC as a punishment is a good idea through.... maybe we should think about that?

hzm
Aug 18, 2002, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Strider
I think that if we change a user's avatar/title we should change their title to:

"You've been struck by a smooth moderater"

I think lowering a person's PC as a punishment is a good idea through.... maybe we should think about that?

All that would do is make post count even more of a ranking system then it is now.

Incubus0223
Aug 18, 2002, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by Strider
I think that if we change a user's avatar/title we should change their title to:

"You've been struck by a smooth moderater"

I think lowering a person's PC as a punishment is a good idea through.... maybe we should think about that?


I doubt that would fit cuz when i rember the last time i changed my title i could barely fit what i have it fit exactly

Zwelgje
Aug 19, 2002, 02:47 AM
I think that changing people's title to one that makes them look like a fool will not have the effect that they will change their behaviour. Just ask the mods of Gamecatcher what happened when they changed the title and location of a certain banned poster....

Dell19
Aug 19, 2002, 02:49 AM
:)

They go mental and threaten to sue...

floppa21
Aug 19, 2002, 06:38 AM
Speaking of which, didja hear about the guy who is trying to sue the fast food chains for get this, MAKING HIM FAT?! :eek: He'd probably spend the money on fastfood... (gosh I hope there isn't a thread on this in OT)

Well, PC reduction is not necessarily a punishment. And I tend to expect the worst from my 'fellow men' so I also put my lot in with the "Attention would escalate the problem" folks. Short of having Darky send the Spetznas to the offender's doorstep, I suggest TF and Co. step up the banning. :goodjob:

Hitro
Aug 19, 2002, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by floppa21
Speaking of which, didja hear about the guy who is trying to sue the fast food chains for get this, MAKING HIM FAT?! :eek: He'd probably spend the money on fastfood... (gosh I hope there isn't a thread on this in OT)

Of course there is. :D

Apart from that I agree with your suggestion.

Simon Darkshade
Aug 19, 2002, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by floppa21
Short of having Darky send the Spetznas to the offender's doorstep, I suggest TF and Co. step up the banning. :goodjob:


Ahem. One can offer the Geheime Stats Polizei, the SS, or any number of evil fascist paramilitaries and secret police, but no misspelt Russian units. :p

Rodgers
Aug 19, 2002, 09:18 AM
Oh cant we all just get on and, like, love each other instead of all this negative banning talk??!!:(

How about some sort of REWARD for previous offenders who behave themselves after being banned or warned?

*winces in expectation of deluge of abuse*

Hitro
Aug 19, 2002, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by Simon Darkshade
Ahem. One can offer the Geheime Stats Polizei, the SS, or any number of evil fascist paramilitaries and secret police, but no misspelt Russian units. :p
You obviously prefer misspelt Nazi organizations. :p

Simon Darkshade
Aug 19, 2002, 10:02 AM
Tsk. Hitro, do stop being such a sour Kraut. :p ;)

Rodgers: For the simple reason that we do not love each other. This is not a hippy commune, but a brutal dictatorship ruled with a fist of iron.:D
And I love it. :D :mwaha:

Hitro
Aug 19, 2002, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Simon Darkshade
Tsk. Hitro, do stop being such a sour Kraut. :p ;)

:D
I expected a more sophisticated attempt to cover your fallibility. :p ;)

But I agree with the explanation you gave to Rodgers. :lol:

knowltok2
Aug 19, 2002, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by Rodgers
Oh cant we all just get on and, like, love each other instead of all this negative banning talk??!!:(

How about some sort of REWARD for previous offenders who behave themselves after being banned or warned?

*winces in expectation of deluge of abuse*

Bah! Reward those who reform? How about those who don't mis-behave in the first place? 10's and 20's please. ;)



*Puts a half moon next to Hitro's name on The List *

Switch625
Aug 19, 2002, 09:29 PM
The Honorable(?) Gentleman(?) from Ohio has a point. Rewarding those who mend their ways is all fine and dandy, but the reward should be nothing more than the continued ability to post here. The REAL rewards should go to those who don't give the moderators trouble in the first place.

PS: The previous blatant attempt at arse-kissing was brought to you by the letter "E," and the number "1337."

The Overlord
Aug 20, 2002, 09:44 AM
Well you should think people are old enough to accept the need of rules and their commitment to obey to them. But sadly not everybody is able to understand it so the mods are here to friendly show them the right way ;) but there are surely some stubborn members so this sounds like a good method to punish smaller "crimes" instead of ban people of course also in a friendly way. :D

damunzy
Aug 20, 2002, 11:27 AM
Just ban 'em. No need to make them feel special.

floppa21
Aug 20, 2002, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by PaleHorse76
Just ban 'em. No need to make them feel special.

:D !!! :D I SAY!!!

Ohwell
Aug 20, 2002, 04:00 PM
Tak em down! Install and eliminate! :cool:

Portuguese
Sep 02, 2002, 02:29 PM
Ban is not a good method. Anyone can then register with a different nick and continue happily... IMHO, no criticism here intended, but it's not the best way to stop misbehaviour!

3-day ban is better. Uneffective to guys like me, with few access to internet, that post in mass and then stay days unconnected, but better.

That new option... It's a good possibility, as long as it is temporary. A skull in an Avatar fro a while is a good idea, I think. A new title would be good also good. Not banned, perhaps something you should be ashamed of.
A temporary banneing for more serious things (1 month, for example) could be also a good weapon to combat bad attitudes.

But to me the best option is still warnings. Whenever possible, try to get people to reason.

But that doesn't matter to me. I don't have even read the forum rules, since I decided to be a nice guy in such a great site, to have peace when I'm here. Peace and Love :D


Oh, and be more positive. Do not focus in bans, try to think on good things and no bad such as this (as in forum styles, great work here, in Dark Blue :goodjob: ).