This thread is for units that should be included in the first version of the game as the bare neccesity's, included are the realworld numbers currently in service

I will continue to use the other thread to post more detailed lists.

Ground Forces

Main Battle Tanks

- Leopard 2 all variants (Germany)
-- Operators
--- 114 - Austria
--- 132 - Chile
--- 256 - Canada
--- 57 - Denmark
--- 91 - Finland
--- 408 - Germany
--- 366 - Greece
--- 110 - Netherlands
--- 52 - Norway
--- 128 - Poland
--- 37 - Portugal
--- 66 - Singapore
--- 327 - Spain
--- 122 - Sweden
--- 380 - Switzerland
--- 339 - Turkey

Notes - Still in production

- M1 Abrams (United States of America)
-- Operators
--- 59 - Australia
--- 1005 - Egypt
--- 218 - Kuwait
--- 388 - Saudi Arabia
--- 5970 - United States of America

Notes -No longer in production

- M-60 Patton All variants (USA)
-- Operators
--- 45 Bosnia and Herzegovina
--- 91 Brazil
--- 1700 Egypt
--- 306 Greece
--- 950 Iran
--- 822 Israel
--- 83 Jordan
--- 30 Lebanon
--- 560 Morroco
--- 73 Oman
--- 100 Portugal
--- 450 Saudi Arabia
--- 260 Spain
--- 29 Sudan
--- 450 Taiwan
--- 53 Thailand
--- 84 Tunisia
--- 925 Turkey
--- 240 Yemen

Notes - Non builable starting unit

- T-90 (Russian Federation\India?)
-- Operators
--- 1100 - Russian Federation
--- 310 - India 340 being bought from russia + 1000 building in India)
--- 300 - Algeria

Notes - In production

T-72 - (USSR\Russian Federation)
-- Operators
--- few? - Afgahnistan
--- 500 - Algeria
--- 22 - Angola
--- 160 -Armenia
--- 180 - Azerbaijan
--- 1465 - Belarus
--- 460 - Bulgaria
--- 3 - Croatia
--- 50 - Cuba
--- 179 - Czech Republic
--- 238 - Hungary
--- 1700 - India
--- 480 - Iran
--- 77 - Iraq
--- 650 - Kazakhstan
--- 77 - Kenya
--- 149 - Kuwait
--- 210 - Krgyzstan
--- 150 - Libya
--- 30 - Macedonia
--- ? - Malaysia
--- 200 - Morocco
--- 139 - Burma
--- 596 - Poland
--- 30 - Romania
--- 9944 - Russia (including reserves)
--- 65 - Serbia
--- 272 - Slovakia
--- 1600 - Syria
--- 33 - Tajikstan
--- 702 - Turkmenistan
--- 1180 - Ukraine
--- 70 - Uzbekistan
--- 135 - Vietnam
--- 39 - Yemen

Notes - Still in production!

- T-62 (USSR)
-- Operators
--- 170 - Afghanistan
--- 300 - Algeria
--- 50 - Angola
--- 300 - Cuba
--- 600 - Egypt
--- 100 - Ethiopia
--- 75 - Iran
--- 70 - Israel
--- 75 - Kazakhstan
--- 170 - Libya
--- 250 - Mongolia
--- 800 - North Korea
--- 2020 - Russia-
--- 1000 - Syria
--- 170 - Uzbekistan
--- 80 - Vietnam
--- 30 - Yemem


- T-64 (USSR)
-- Operators
--- 2215 - Ukraine
--- 4000 - Russia
--- 100 - Uzbekistan

- T-55\T-54 (USSR)
-- Operators-
--- Abkhazia - 55
--- Afgahinistan - 600
--- Albania - 375
--- Algeria - 275
--- Angola - 100
--- Azerbaiijan - 123
--- Bangladesh - 60
--- Belarus - 29
--- Bosnia and Herzegovina - 150
--- Bulgaria - 160
--- Cambodia - 100
--- Central African Republic - 4
--- Chad - 60
--- Croatia -222
--- Cuba - 1100
--- Democratic Republic of Congo - 20
--- Ecuador - 30
--- Egypt - 650 - 260 Ramses II MBT's (massively upgraded version)
--- Equatorial Guinea - 3
--- Eritrea - 10
--- Ethiopa - 250
--- Georgia - 23
--- Guinea - 8
--- Hungary - 597
--- India - 200
--- Iran - 540
--- Israel - 126
--- Laos - 30
--- Latvia - 3
--- Lebanon - 205
--- Libya - 460
--- Mauritania - 35
--- Mongolia - 350
--- Montenegro - 62
--- Nicaragua - 31
--- Nigeria - 50
--- North Korea - 1600
--- Peru - 375
--- Romania - 647
--- Russia - 1010
--- Rwanda - 12
--- Somaliland - 85 - Breakaway from Somalia
--- Sudan - 200
--- Syria - 2150
--- Togo - 2
--- Uganda - 20
--- Ukraine - 112
--- Uruguay - 15
--- Uzbekistan - 80
--- Vietnam - 900
--- Yemen - 700
--- Zambia - 10
--- Zimbabwae - 20

- T-80 (USSR\Russia\Ukraine)
-- Operators
--- 90 - Belarus
--- 41 - Cyprus
--- 285 - Pakistan
--- 50 - People's Republic of China
--- 5956 - Russia - of which 1456 are in reserve
--- 33 - South Korea
--- 271 - Ukraine


- Type 96 (People's Republic of China)
-- Operators
--- 2500 - People's Republic of China

Notes - Currently in production

- Type 99 (People's Republic of China)
-- Operators
--- 300 - People's Republic of China

Notes - Currently in production


- Type 59 (People's Republic of China)
-- Operators
--- 100 - Agahnistan
--- 264 - Bangladesh
--- 200 - Cambodia
--- 20 - Democratic Republic of Congo
--- 220 - Iran
--- 175 - North Korea
--- 1200 - Pakistan
--- 6000 - People's Republic of China
--- 15 - Republic of Congo
--- 80 - Sri Lanka
--- 10 - Sudan
--- 30 - Tanzania
--- 158 - Thailand
--- 350 - Vietnam
--- 20 - Zambia
--- 30 - Zimbabwae

- Merkava Mark I & II(Israel)
-- Operators
--- 830 - Israel

- Challenger 2 (United Kingdom)
-- Operators
--- 38 - Oman
--- 366 - United Kingdom

- Leclerc (France)
-- Operators
--- 406 - France
--- 388 - United Arab Emirates

- Leopard 1 (West Germany)
-- Operators
--- 132 - Belgium
--- 368 - Brazil
--- 66 - Canada
--- 202 - Chile
--- 502 - Greece
--- 120 - Italy
--- 43 - Lebanon
--- 20 - Norway
--- 394 - Turkey

Naval Units

Submarines

SSN

Nuclear attack submarines

- Los Angeles class (United States of America)
-- Operators
--- 45 United States of America

Notes - Non buildable starting unit - Can launch 8 tomahawk cruise missiles

- Virginia class - (United States of America)
-- Operators
--- 5 - United States of America

Notes - In production with 3 building with 22 more planned - Can launch 12 tomahawk cruise missiles

- Trafalgar Class (United Kingdom)
-- Operators
--- 7 United Kingdom

Notes - Non buildable starting unit - Can launch 5 tomahawk cruise missiles

- Astute class (United Kingdom)
-- Operators
--- 0 United Kingdom

Notes - In production - first commisioned in 2009 with 4 building of a class of 8 - Can launch 6 tomahawk missiles

- Victor III class (Russian Federation)
-- Operators
--- 20? Russian Federation

Notes - Non buildable starting unit - Can launch 4 anti -ship missiles

- Akula class (Russian Federation)
-- Operators
--- 9 Russian Federation
--- 1 India - 2 under construction & 60% completed

Notes - Should be non buildable as the subs for india are uncompleted hulls, maybe India should just start with 3 to make life easier\reflect reality?

- Graney class (Russian Federation)
-- Operators
--- 0 Russian Federation

Notes - In production - Inservice 2010 carries 3K-10 Granat cruise missiles & Launch Nuclear missiles, an all round boat

- Rubis class (France)
-- Operators
--- 6 France

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Barracuda class (France)
-- Operators
--- 0 France

Notes - Inservice 2016 - maybe unlocked by 'future SSN class tech' or left out?

- Type 091 (Peoples Republic of China)
-- Operators
--- 5 Peoples Republic of China

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Type 093 (Peoples Republic of China)
-- Operators
--- 2 Peoples Republic of China

Notes - In production

SSBN

Nuclear Ballistic Missile Submarines

- Triomphant class (France)
-- Operators
--- 3 France

Notes - In production - carries 16 SLBM (Submarine Launch Ballistic Missiles)

- Delta IV class (Russian Federation)
-- Operators
--- 5 Russian Federation

Notes - Non buildable starting unit - carries 16 SLBM

- Borei class (Russian Federation)
-- Operators
--- 1 Russian Federation

Notes - In production - carries 16 SLBM

- Ohio class (United States of America)
-- Operators
--- 14 United States of America

Notes - Non buildable starting unit - carries 24 SLBM

--- Ohio Class (Modified as Guided Missile Submarine) (United States of America)
---- Operators
----- 4 United States of America

Notes - Non buildable starting unit - Carries 154 :eek: Tomahawk Cruise Missiles

- Vanguard class (United Kingdom)
-- Operators
--- 4 United Kingdom

Notes - Non buildable starting unit - carries 16 SLBM

- Type 094 (Peoples Republic of China)
-- Operators
--- 2 Peoples Republic of China

Notes - In production - carries 12 SLBM

- Advanced Technology Vessel (India)
-- Operators
--- 0 India

Notes - In production with 3 Boats building and being launched in 2009 - carries 12 SLBM



DD
Destroyers

- Type 45 (UK)
-- Operators
--- 1 UK

Notes - In production - first in commision summer 09 - carries SAM's

- Type 42 (UK)
-- Operators
--- 8 UK
--- 1 Argentina

Notes - Nonbuildable starting unit - carries SAM's

- MEKO 360 (Germany)
-- Operators
--- 4 Argentina
--- 1 Nigeria

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Udaloy Class (USSR)
-- Operators
--- 8 Russian Federation

Notes - Non Buildable Starting unit

- Kashin class destroyer (USSR)
-- Operators
--- 1 Russian Federation
--- 1 Poland
--- 5 India - under Rajupt Class Destroyer name

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Sovremenny class destroyer (USSR\Russian Federation)
-- Operators
--- 12 Russian Federation
--- 4 Peoples Republic of China

Notes - Buildable starting unit (possibly more orders from Chin)

- Kolkata class destroyer (India)
-- Operators
--- 0 India

Notes - In production, first inservice in 2010

- Delhi class destroyer (India)
-- Operators
--- 3 India

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Type 051 destroyer (Peoples Republic of China)
-- Operators
--- 15 Peoples Republic of China

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Type 052C destroyer (Peoples Republic of China)
-- Operators
--- 2 Peoples Republic of China

Notes - In production

- Horizon class frigate (France\Italy)
-- Operators
--- 2 France
--- 2 Italy

Notes - In production - currently in trials with respective navies and equivelent to DD's in other navies.

- Tourville class frigate (France)
-- Operators
--- 2 France

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Durand de la Penne class destroyer (Italy)
-- Operators
--- 2 Italy

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Atago class destroyer (Japan)
-- Operators
--- 2 Japan

Notes - final construction finished in 08 so possible to still build more?

- Takanami class destroyer (Japan)
-- Operators
--- 5 Japan

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Murasame class destroyer (Japan)
-- Operators
--- 9 Japan

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Kongō class destroyer (Japan)
-- Operators
--- 4 (Japan)

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Asagiri class destroyer (Japan)
-- Operators
--- 6 Japan

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Hatsuyuki class destroyer (Japan)
-- Operators
--- 12 Japan

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Chungmugong Yi Sun-sin class destroyer (South Korea)
-- Operators
--- 6 South Korea

Notes - In production? Last unit finished in 2008 so possibly still buildable?

- King Sejong the Great class destroyer (South Korea)
-- Operators
--- 1 South Korea

Notes - In production

- Arleigh Burke class destroyer (United States of America)
-- Operators
--- 52 United States of America

Notes - In production

- Zumwalt class destroyer (United States of America)
-- Operators
--- 0 United States of America

Notes - Laid down as of 2008 - should have a very powerful bombard attack

- Kidd class destroyer (United States of America)
-- Operators
--- 4 Taiwan

Notes - Non buildable starting unit


Frigates

- Espora class frigate (MEKO 140) (West Germany)
-- Operators
--- 6 Argentina

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Adelaide class frigate (Modified Oliver Hazard Perry Design) (Australia\USA)
-- Operators
--- 4 Australia

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Anzac class frigate (Australia\New Zealand)
-- Operators
--- 2 New Zealand
--- 8 Australia

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Type 053 frigate (Peoples Republic of China)
-- Operators
--- 32 PRC
--- 1 Bangladesh
--- 4 Thailand
--- 2 Egypt

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Type 053H3 frigate (PRC)
-- Operators
--- 14 PRC

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Type 054 frigate (PRC)
-- Operators
--- 6 PRC

Notes - In production

- Type 23 frigate (United Kingdom)
-- Operators
--- 13 UK
--- 3 Chile

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Type 22 frigate (UK)
-- Operators
--- 4 Brazil
--- 2 Romania
--- 1 Chile
--- 14 UK

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Type 41 frigate (UK\India)
-- Operators
--- 2 Bangladesh

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Type 61 Frigate (UK)
-- Operators
--- 2 Bangladesh

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Wielingen class frigate (Belgian)
-- Operators
--- 3 Bulgaria

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Niteroi class frigate (UK)
-- Operators
--- 7 Brazil

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Garcia class frigate (USA)
-- Operators
--- 4 Brazil

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Oliver Hazard Perry class frigate (USA & under license in Spain\Taiwan)
-- Operators
--- 30 USA
--- 10 Turkey
--- 6 Spain
--- 8 Taiwan
--- 2 Poland
--- 4 Egypt
--- 1 Bahrain

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Koni class frigate (USSR)
-- Operators
--- 3 Algeria
--- 1 Bulgaria
--- 2 Egypt

Notes - Non buildable startin unit

- Halifax class frigate (Canada)
-- Operators
--- 12 Canada

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Karel Doorman class frigate (Netherlands)
-- Operators
--- 2 Belgium
--- 2 Chile
--- 2 Portugal
--- 2 Netherlands

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Jacob van Heemskerck class frigate (Netherlands)
-- Operators
--- 2 Chile

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Almirante Padilla\Kasturi class frigate (West Germany)
-- Operators
--- 4 Colombia
--- 2 Malaysia

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Thetis class ocean patrol vessel (Denmark)
-- Operators
--- 4 Denmark

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Knox class frigate (USA)
-- Operators
--- 12 Turkey
--- 4 Mexico
--- 2 Thailand
--- 2 Egypt
--- 8 Taiwan

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Floréal class frigate (France)
-- Operators
--- 6 France
--- 2 Morroco

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- La Fayette class frigate (France & Licence built by Singapore)
-- Operators
--- 5 France
--- 6 Taiwan
--- 6 Singapore
--- 3 Saudi Arabia

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Commandant Rivière class frigate (France)
-- Operators
--- 3 Uruguay

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Georges Leygues class frigate (France)
-- Operators
--- 7 France

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Cassard class frigate (France)
-- Operators
--- 2 France

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Bremen class frigate (Germany)
-- Operators
--- 8 Germany

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Brandenburg class frigate (Germany)
-- Operators
--- 4 Germany

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Sachsen class frigate (Germany)
-- Operators
--- 3 Germany

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Kortenaer class frigate (Netherlands)
-- Operators
--- 10 Greece
--- 2 United Arab Emirates

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Shivalik class frigate (India)
-- Operators
--- 2 India

Notes - In production

- Talwar class frigate (Russia)
-- Operators
--- 3 India

Notes - In production - 3 more on order from Russia

- Brahmaputra class frigate (India)
-- Operators
--- 3 India

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Godavari class frigate (India)
-- Operators
--- 3 India

Notes - Non buildable Starting unit

- Tribal class frigate (UK)
--Operators
--- 3 Indonesia

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Van Speijk class frigate (Netherlands)
-- Operators
--- 6 Indonesia

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Alvand class frigate (UK)
-- Operators
--- 3 Iran

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Moudge class frigate (Iran)
-- Operators
--- 2 (Iran)

Notes - In production

- Lupo class frigate (Italy)
-- Operators
--- 8 Peru
--- 6 Venezula
--- 4 Italy

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Maestrale class frigate (Italy)
-- Operators
--- 8 Italy

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Yubari class destroyer escort (Japan)
-- Operators
--- 2 Japan

Notes - Non builable starting unit

- Abukuma class destroyer escort (Japan)
-- Operators
--- 6 Japan

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Lekiu class frigate (UK)
-- Operators
--- 2 Malaysia

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Kasturi class frigate (West Germany based on MEKO Family)
-- Operators
--- 2 Malaysia

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Descubierta class frigate (Spain)
-- Operators
--- 5 Spain
--- 2 Egypt
--- 1 Morroco

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- De Zeven Provinciën class frigate (Netherlands)
-- Operators
--- 4 Netherlands

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Fridtjof Nansen class frigate (Spain)
-- Operators
--- 3 Norway

Notes - In production 2 building for Norway

- Najin class frigate (North Korea)
-- Operators
--- 2 North Korea

Notes -non buildable starting unit - this should be laughably bad!

- Type 21 frigate (UK)
-- Operators
--- 6 Pakistan

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Vasco da Gama class frigate (Germany -Part of the Meko family)
-- Operators
--- 3 Portugal

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Rear-Admiral Eustaţiu Sebastian class frigate (Romania)
-- Operators
--- 2 Romania

Notes - Non builable starting unit

- Admiral Petre Bărbuneanu class frigate (Romania)
-- Operators
--- 2 Romania

Notes - Non buildable start unit

- Riga class frigate (USSR)
-- Operators
--- 3 Bulgaria

Notes - Non buildable start unit

- Petya class frigate (USSR)
-- Operators
--- 6 Vietnam
--- 2 Syria

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Krivak class frigate (USSR)
-- Operators
--- 16 Russian Federation
--- 1 Ukraine

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Neustrashimy class frigate (USSR\Russian Federation)
-- Operators
--- 1 Russian Federation

Notes - In production

- Ulsan class frigate (South Korea)
-- Operators
--- 9 South Korea

Notes - non buildable start unit

- Álvaro de Bazán class frigate (Spain)
-- Operators
--- 4 Spain

Notes - In production

- Tartarstan/Gepard class frigate (Russian Federation)
-- Operators
--- 1 Russian Federation
--- 0 Vietnam

Notes - In production, 4 ordered by Vietnam.

Air\Helo Units

5th Generation Jet Fighter:
- F-35 Lighting II\JCA (US\UK\Italy\Canada\Australia\Israel\Singapore)
-- Operator
--- USA
--- UK
--- Italy
--- Canada
--- Australia
--- Israel
--- Singapore

Notes - in preproduction phase
- F-22 Raptor (US) (Only 5th generation in service)
-- Operators
--- 122 USA

Notes - In production

4.5th Generation Jet Fighter

- Eurofighter Typhoon (UK\Germany\Spain\Italy)
-- Operators
--- 9 Austria
--- 26 Germany
--- 30 Italy
--- 19 Spain
--- 49 UK
--- 1 Saudi Arabia

Notes - Currently in Production

- F/A-18E/F Super Hornet (US)
--Operators
--- Australia (24 on order)
--- 367 USA

Notes - In production

- F-16 Block 50/52 and later models (US)
-- Operators
--- 70 Greece
--- 48 Poland
--- 30 Turkey
--- 102 Israel
--- 12 Oman
--- 18 Pakistan
--- 92 South Korea
--- 10 Chile

Notes - No longer in production

- Chengdu J-10 (PRC)
-- Operators
---- 100 China
--- Pakistan 136 ordered

Notes - In production

4th Generation Jet Fighter

- Panavia Tornado ADV (UK\Germany\Italy)
-- Operators
--- 152 UK
--- 24 Saudia Arabia

Notes - Non Buildable starting unit

- Sukhoi Su-27 (USSR\Russia)
--Operators
--- 8 Azerbaijan 18 on order)
--- 8 Angola
--- 76 China
--- 8 Eritrea
--- 18 Ethiopia
--- 7 Indonesia
--- 30 Kazakhstan
--- 18 Malaysia
--- 449 Russia
--- 80 Ukraine
--- 25 Uzbekistan
--- 36 Vietnam
--- 2 United States

Notes - In production

- Mikoyan MiG-31 (USSR)
-- Operators
--- 33 Kazakhstan
--- 386 Russia
--- 8 Syria

Notes - Non Buildable starting unit


- Mikoyan MiG-29 (USSR\Russia)
-- Operators
--- 105 Algeria
--- 48 Azerbaijan
--- 16 Bangladesh
--- 50 Belarus
--- 20 Bulgaria
--- 14 Cuba
--- 5 Eritrea
--- 21 Hungary
--- 109 India
--- 75 Iran
--- 40 Kazkhstan
--- 10 Lebanon
--- 16 Malaysia
--- 27 Burma\Myanmar
--- 40 North Korea
--- 19 Peru
--- 44 Poland
--- 580 Russia
--- 4 Serbia
--- 21 Slovakia
--- 10 Sudan
--- 56 Syria
--- 20 Turkmenistan
--- 217 Ukraine
--- 30 Uzbekistan
--- 44 Yemen

Notes - In production

- Dassault Mirage 2000 (France)
-- Operators
--- 315 France
--- 69 India
--- 68 United Arab Emirates
--- 60 Taiwan
--- 44 Greece
--- 20 Egypt
--- 12 Qatar
--- 12 Peru
--- 12 Brazil

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- F-16 Fighting Falcon (United States)
--Operators
--- 40 Greece
--- 30 Italy
--- 65 Portugal
--- 270 Turkey
--- 24 Bahrain
--- 220 Egypt
--- 243 Israel
--- 58 Jordan
--- 12 Oman
--- 80 United Arab Emirates

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- F/A-18 Hornet (US)
-- Operators
--- 69 Australia
--- 219 Canada
--- 62 Finland
--- 35 Kuwait
--- 94 Spain
--- 33 Switzerland
--- 647 USA

Notes - Non buildable strting unit

3rd Generation Jet Fighter
Most likely the most basic types to be seen in the game seen mainly in African countries, they should be non buildable starting units to reflect the fact none of the countries with the capability to build them no longer do so

- Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21MF/bis 'Fishbed' (USSR)
--Operators
--- 25 Angola
--- 3 Azerbaijan
--- 36 Bulgaria
--- 12 Croatia
--- 160 Cuba
--- 62 Egypt
--- 428 India
--- 25 Libya
--- 16 Mali
--- 15 Mozambique
--- 32 Nigeria
--- 150 North Korea
--- 48 Romania
--- 29 Serbia
--- 176 Syria
--- 124 Vietnam
--- 47 Yemen
--- 6 Uganda

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Shenyang J-8 (China)
-- Operators
--- 300 China

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23 'Flogger' (USSR)
-- Operators
--- 5 Armenia
--- 29 Algeria
--- 32 Angola
--- 34 Belarus
--- 69 Vuba
--- 32 Ethiopia
--- 60 India
--- 100 Kazakhstan
--- 130 Libya
--- 56 North Korea
--- 146 Syria
--- 230 Turkmenistan
--- 44 Yemen
--- 3 Zimbabwae

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- F4 Phantom II (US)
-- Operators
--- 30 Egypt
--- 145 Germany
--- 62 Greece
--- 47 Iran
--- 93 Israel
--- 109 Japan
--- 148 South Korea
--- 207 Turkey

Non buildable starting unit

- Northrop F-5 (US)
-- Operators
--- 12 Bahrain
--- 14 Botswana
--- 56 Brazil
--- 16 Chile
--- 11 Honduras
--- 75 Iran
--- 22 Kenya
--- 10 Mexico
--- 60 Morocco
--- 60 Taiwan
--- 45 Singapore
--- 174 South Korea
--- 20 Thailand
--- 12 Tunisia
--- 200 Turkey
--- 18 Venezuela
--- 45 Yemen

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

Stealth Bombers

- B-2 Spirit (USA)
-- Operators
--- 21 USA

Notes - USA only country capable of building these units aswell as Research & Development costs. Should be UU for USA.

Strategic Bombers

- Tupolev Tu-22M (USSR)
-- Operators
---- 252 Russia
--- 4 India

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- B-52 Stratofortress (USA)
-- Operators
--- 94 USA

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Tupolev Tu-95\Tupolev Tu-142 (USSR)
-- Operators
--- 80 Russia
--- 8 India

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Tupolev Tu-160 (USSR\Russian Federation)
-- Operators
--- 19 Russia

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

Helicopter Gunships

- AH-64 Apache\Westland WAH-64 Apache (US\UK)
--Operators
--- 67 UK
--- 35 Egypt
--- 48 Israel
--- 32 Greece
--- 2 Japan - 50 ordered
--- 16 Kuwait
--- 30 Netherlands
--- 12 Saudi Arabia
--- 18 Singapore
--- 10 Turkey
--- 30 United Arab Emirates
--- 698 USA

Notes - In production

- Eurocopter Tiger (Germany\Austria\French\Spain)
--Operators
--- 22 Australia
--- 80 France
--- 24 Spain
--- 80 Germany

Notes - In production

- AH-1 Cobra (US)
-- Operators
--- 22 Bahrain
--- 55 Israel
--- 100 Japan
--- 31 Jordan
--- 39 Pakistan
--- 90 South Korea
--- 3 Thailand
--- 30 Turkey
--- 30 Iran
--- 59 Taiwan
--- 167 USA

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Mil Mi-24 (USSR)
-- Operators
--- 4 Afgahnistan
--- 70 Algeria
--- 15 Angola
--- 16 Armenia
--- 49 Azerbaijan
--- 22 Belarus
--- 12 Brazil
--- 44 Bulgaria
--- 12 Cyprus
--- 4 Cuba
--- 38 Czech Republic
--- 5 Equitorial Guinea
--- 15 Eritrea
--- 18 Ethiopia
--- 32 Georgia
--- 49 Hungary
--- 24 India
--- 8 Indonesia
--- 1 Côte d'Ivoire (A.K.A Ivory Coast)
--- 20 Kazakhstan
--- 40 Kyrgyzstan
--- 43 Libya
--- 12 Macedonia
--- 4 Mongolia
--- 4 Mozambique
--- 2 Nambia
--- 5 Nicaragua
--- 6 Nigeria
--- 22 North Korea
--- 16 Peru
--- 32 Poland
--- 360 Russia
--- 2 Rwanda
--- 2 Senegal
--- 2 Serbia
--- 3 Sierra Leone
--- 11 Slovakia
--- 13 Sri Lanka
--- ? Sudan (very few)
--- 36 Syria
--- 12 Tajikistan
--- 1 Uganda
--- 245 Ukraine
--- 29 Uzbekistan
--- 38 Vietnam
--- 27 Yemen
--- 6 Zimbabwae

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Mil Mi-28 (USSR\Russia)
-- Operators
--- 43 Russia
--- 32 Turkey
--- 4

Notes - In productin

Air Transport Vessel

- Lockheed C-130 Hercules (US) (medium range & 2 unit airlift)
-- Operators
--- Algeria 21
--- 3 Botswana
--- 3 Cameroon
--- 26 Egypt
--- 3 Ethiopia
--- 3 Gabon
--- ? Liberia (unknown, minute)
--- 10 Libya
--- 17 Morocco
--- 1 Niger
--- 9 Nigeria
--- 9 South Africa
--- 9 Sudan
--- 3 Tunisia
--- ? Bangladesh (few)
--- 20 Taiwan
--- 6 India (delivery in 2011)
--- 10 Indonesia
--- 9 Iran
--- 9 Iraq
--- 20 Israel
--- 16 Japan
--- 4 Jordan
--- 6 Kuwait
--- 13 Malaysia
--- 3 Oman
--- 12 Pakistan
--- 1 Philippines
--- 4 Qatar
--- 42 Saudi Arabia
--- 10 Singapore
--- 16 South Korea
--- 2 Sri Lanka
--- 12 Thailand
--- 13 Turkey
--- 6 United Arab Emirates
--- 10 Yemen
--- 3 Austria
--- 10 Belgium
--- 60 Denmark
--- 14 France
--- 14 Greece
--- 22 Italy
--- 4 Netherlands
--- 6 Norway
--- 5 Poland (entering service 08-09)
--- ? Portugal (likely 10 or less)
--- 5 Romania
--- 12 Spain
--- 8 Sweden
--- 44 UK
--- 30 Canada
--- 12 Mexico
--- 514 USA
--- 7 Argentina
--- 6 Bolivia
--- 23 Brazil
--- 5 Chile
--- 7 Columbia
--- 2 Ecuador
--- 1 Honduras
--- 5 Peru
--- 2 Uruguay
--- 6 Venezuela
--- 20 Australia
--- 5 New Zealand

Notes - In Production

- Airbus A400M (France\GermanyUK\Belgium\Luxembourg\Spain\Italy) (medium range & 3 unit airlift)
-- Operators
--- 0 Germany (60 orderd for 2010)
--- 0 France (50 ordered for 2009)
--- 0 UK (25 Ordered for 2010)
--- 0 Turkey (10 ordered for 2010)
--- 0 Belgium (7 ordered for 2018)
--- 0 Luxembourg (1 ordered for 2017)
--- 0 South Afria (8 Ordered for 2010)
--- 0 Chile (3 ordered for 2018)
--- 0 Malaysia (4 ordered for 2013)

Notes - Entering production in early 2009

- C-17 Globemaster III (US) (Long Range & 3 Unit Airlift)
-- Operators
--- 4 Australia
--- 4 Canada
--- 3 NATO (asin the RL alliance)
--- 6 UK
--- 171 USA

Notes - In production

- Lockheed C-5 Galaxy (USA) (Extremely Long Range & 4 unit airlift)
-- Operators
--- 158 USA

Notes Non buildable starting unit

- Antonov An-124 (USSR\Russia\Ukraine) (Long Range & 4 unit airlift)
-- Operators
--- 25 Russia
--- 3 Ukraine

Notes - Reentering production in Ukraine\Russia with the next few years

Aircraft DONE!

reserved 4

Ok, I'll use this post to keep just a list of every unit we want to include. From here, we'll have to search around for existing art that we can use, and then build the ones we can't find. I'll use this post as a checklist.

I assume most of the existing units that we'll end up using will be drawn from Max Riga's Mod (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/Units.htm) and Modern Warfare Mod. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=192679) Needless to say we will credit everyone who created something that we end up including. Snafusmith (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=210314) has made a lot of the modern units already.

Please post if you find units that we don't have yet, or if you think you've found a better version of one that we do. One thing that I think we should insure is that every unit we use is animated.



Rebel/Failed State Units

I seem to have lost the list of rebel units we had way back when. Hopefully someone has it or can remember the ones I'm forgetting. Or we can just name all the ones we want now and redo it.


Tamil Tigers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Tigers_of_Tamil_Eelam). Need It.
Taliban (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=140552&d=1161107576): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=189714) thanks BeastMaster
Zapatista (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=118422&d=1141452342): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=161724) thanks Robo Magic Man
: Got it. (]Jihadist[/url) I know I have seen this somewhere but I can't find it. Help!
Janjaweed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janjaweed). Need It.
Farc rebels (http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/colombia_farc-rebels-march-in-la-macarenapreview.jpg). Need It. Maybe the revolutionaries (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/unitlist/pix/Revoluteonary.JPG) from maxrigamod?
Basque Separatists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETA) (ETA). Need It.
Budddist Monks (http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200709/r185637_690888.jpg). Need It.
Somali Pirates (http://www.smokehound.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/pirates.jpg). Got It (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=8945).



[U]Ground Forces

Tanks

Leopard 2 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=122930&d=1144640403): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=166532) thanks snafusmith

M1 Abrams (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/unitlist/pix/abram.JPG): Got it. (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/Units.htm) in maxrigamod (unknown creator) or here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=291197) from GeS.

T-90 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=144973&d=1167246815): Got It (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=198635). Thanks The Conquests

T-72 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=121411&d=1143581445): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=165072) by snafusmith

T-62 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-62): Need It

T-64 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-64): Need It

T-55\T-54: Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=4756129#post4756129) by snafusmith

T-80 (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/unitlist/pix/t80.JPG): Got it. (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/Units.htm) in maxrigamod. Also, the T-84 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=166050). Both by snafusmith

Type 96 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_96): Need It

Type 99 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=128496&d=1149106134): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=172951) by snafusmith

Type 59 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_59): Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=1571)

Merkava Mark I & II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkava): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=291350) by KrugerPritz or by sharick (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=180749)

Challenger 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_2): Need It

Leclerc (http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5952/leclerczv1.png): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=269541) by snafusmith

Leopard 1 (http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=leopard1hm3.png): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=269541) by snafusmith

I thought I remembered seeing a Challenger 2 somewhere, but I can't find it.


APCs

Coming soon.


Air Units


F-35 Lighting II\JCA (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=119763&d=1142454443): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=163277) thanks nautil. There are other copies of this one as well I think. One here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=193309).

F-22 Raptor: Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=169430) thanks The Conquests

Eurofighter Typhoon (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=142711&d=1163943095): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=193370) thanks The Conquests. snafusmith also has one in modern warfare. Also: skins (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=277670).

F A-18E/F Super Hornet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F/A-18_Super_Hornet): Need it. Someone can reskin the regular F A 18 (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/unitlist/pix/f18.JPG) for this one I guess.

F-16 Block 50/52 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138286&d=1158337359): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=169423) thanks The Conquests

Chengdu J-10 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=142717&d=1163944915): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=193371) thanks The Conquests

Panavia Tornado ADV (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=133482&d=1153749749): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=178866&highlight=Panavia+Tornado) from The Conquests. Close enough? His other Tornado unit's thread says it is not animated, I hope this one is. Someone could do us a favor by checking that out.

Sukhoi Su-27 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=120892&d=1143235454): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=164567) thanks The Conquests

Mikoyan MiG-31 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=144446&d=1166390905): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=197025) thanks The Conquests

Dassault Mirage 2000 (http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4867/mirage2000oy1.png): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=257310) from snafusmith or here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=182976) from The Conquests

F-16 Fighting Falcon (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138286&d=1158337359): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=169423) thanks The Conquests

F A-18 Hornet (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/unitlist/pix/f18.JPG): Got it. (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/Units.htm) from Maxrigamod, unknown artist

Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21MF/bis 'Fishbed' (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=121209&d=1143430173): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=164872) thanks nautil. Skins (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=276368&highlight=fishbed).

Shenyang J-8 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_J-8): Need it. Maybe the Chengdu J-10A (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=193371) as placeholder or base for skinning.

Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23 'Flogger' (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=140759&d=1161356062): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=190046&highlight=Mikoyan) thanks The Conquests

F4 Phantom II (http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7263/f4ww9.jpg): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=225947) thanks snafusmith. Also made by The Conquests (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=184810)

Northrop F-5 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=4756129): Got it. thanks snafusmith. 2 versions in his mod, I haven't looked at them yet.

: Got it. (]B-2 Spirit[/url) We can use the default stealth bomber. There may also be better ones out there.

Tupolev Tu-22M (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-22M): Need it.

B-52 Stratofortress (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=120680&d=1143085898): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=164356) thanks snafusmith

Tupolev Tu-95\Tupolev Tu-142 (http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8223/tu95previewbm9.jpg): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=192552) thanks ArdRaeiss

Tupolev Tu-160 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138494&d=1158503543): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=186405&highlight=Tupolev) thanks The Conquests.




Helicopter Gunships


AH-64 Apache (http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9092/ah64apachera8.jpg): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=193352) thanks snafusmith
Eurocopter Tiger (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=175967&d=1209690764): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=273708) thanks The_Coyote. Also: badass reskins (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=275391) thanks bernie14
AH-1 Cobra (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=184043&d=1217171384): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=284782&highlight=cobra) thanks GFO_Anubis (thread also has country specific skins of AH64 and Mi-24 we can use!)
Mil Mi-24 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=120292&d=1142812724): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=163871) thanks nautil
Mil Mi-28 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=184402&d=1217514229): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=285367) thanks GeS



Air Transport Vessel

Hold off on these. We have to figure out how to get the AI to use them before we decide if we are going to include air transport units.

- Lockheed C-130 Hercules
- Airbus A400M
- C-17 Globemaster III
- Lockheed C-5 Galaxy
- Antonov An-124



[U]Naval Units

We need all of these still:

Submarines

SSN

Nuclear attack submarines

- Los Angeles class Got It (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=170227)
- Virginia class
- Trafalgar Class
- Astute class Got it here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7358) or here
- Victor III class
- Akula class Got it here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=170341) or here. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6899)
- Graney
- Rubis class
- Barracuda class
- Type 091
- Type 093


SSBN

Nuclear Ballistic Missile Submarines

- Triomphant class
- Delta IV class
- Borei class
- Ohio class Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=170376)
- Ohio Class (Modified as Guided Missile Submarine)
- Vanguard class Got it- comes with nuke mod.
- Type 094
- Advanced Technology Vessel (India)



Destroyers


- Type 45
- Type 42
- MEKO 360
- Udaloy Class
- Kashin class destroyer
- Sovremenny class destroyer
- Kolkata class destroyer
- Delhi class destroyer
- Type 051 destroyer
- Type 052C destroyer
- Horizon class frigate
- Tourville class frigate
- Durand de la Penne class destroyer
- Atago class destroyer
- Takanami class destroyer
- Murasame class destroyer
- Kongō class destroyer
- Asagiri class destroyer
- Hatsuyuki class destroyer
- Chungmugong Yi Sun-sin class destroyer
- King Sejong the Great class destroyer
- Arleigh Burke class destroyer Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=4335)
- Zumwalt class destroyer
- Kidd class destroyer


Frigates

-Halifax class frigate (Canada)
-Minor EU Nations Common Frigate
- Moudge class frigate (Iran)
- Abukuma class destroyer escort (Japan)
- Descubierta class frigate (Spain)
- Álvaro de Bazán class frigate (Spain)
- Ulsan class frigate (South Korea)
- Type 23 frigate (United Kingdom)
- Type 22 frigate (UK)
-1970's UK Frigate (UK)
- 1980's UK Frigate (UK)
- Type 053 frigate (Peoples Republic of China)
- Type 054 frigate (PRC)
- Early 80's MEKO Frigates (West Germany)
- MEKO 200 Frigate (Germany)
- Bremen class frigate (Germany)
- Sachsen class frigate (Germany)
- 1960's Soviet Frigate
- 1970's Soviet Frigate
- Neustrashimy class frigate (USSR\Russian Federation)
- Talwar class frigate (Russia)
- Tartarstan/Gepard class frigate (Russian Federation)
- Oliver Hazard Perry class frigate (USA)
- Knox class frigate (USA)
-Basic early French Frigates
- 1990's French Frigates(France)
- La Fayette class frigate (France & Licence built by Singapore)
- Kortenaer class frigate (Netherlands)
- Karel Doorman class frigate (Netherlands)
- De Zeven Provinciën class frigate (Netherlands)
- Lupo class frigate (Italy)
- Maestrale class frigate (Italy)
- Shivalik class frigate (India)


Carriers

CVN: Multi-purpose Aircraft Carrier (Nuclear-Propulsion)
- Gerald R. Ford class aircraft carrier (United States of America)
- Nimitz class aircraft carrier (USA)
- Enterprise Class Aircraft Carrier (USA)
- Charles de Gaulle Class Aircraft Carrier (France)
- Admiral Kuznetsov class aircraft carrier (USSR\Russian Federation) Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10432)

CV: Multi-purpose Aircraft Carrier
- Kitty Hawk class aircraft carrier (USA) (US)
- Queen Elizabeth class Aircraft Carrier (United Kingdom)
- Invincible class aircraft carrier (UK) Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=192679)
- Centaur class aircraft carrier (UK)
- Vikrant class aircraft carrier (India)
- Clemenceau class Aircraft Carrier (France)
- Kiev class aircraft carrier (USSR)
- Cavour Class Aircraft Carrier (Italy)
- Giuseppe Garibaldi Class Aircraft Carrier (Italy)
- Príncipe de Asturias class Aircraft Carrier (Spain)
- Juan Carlos I class
- Chakri Naruebet class aircraft Carrier (Spain)

Helicopter Carriers:
- Ocean Class (UK)
- Tarawa class amphibious assault ship (USA)
- Wasp class amphibious assault ship (USA)
- America class amphibious assault ship (USA)
- Hyūga class helicopter destroyer (Japan)

Aphibious Transport
-San Antonio class amphibious transport dock (USA)Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7895)

Cruisers
-Kirov Class Cruiser (USSR\Russia)Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=5292)
-Ticonderoga Class Missile Cruiser (USA) Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=170078)




Everyone please feel free to pitch in and add to this. I will updated this master list as we find them.

sheep 21, please bump this thread when you update so we can tell! I missed the new additions until now.

props friend... all your work here will pay off when the game is supremely realistic!

Ok, I guess we are going to have to crunch this data a few different ways, so I'll get started.

I suppose first we'll need a clean list of just the units, to make it easier for those adding them. I'll make that now and put it in my first post up there ^^.

The only thing missing now are the naval units right? I assume that is what you have post #2 reserved for. :-)

After everything is here, it would certainly be helpful to the map builder who adds the units if we could get it sorted by civ. This includes not just the civs we are including, but basically every country, because those countries in the minor nations/failed states are still going to have to have accurate militaries in the proper cities. The other unions as well.

That's going to be task in itself, so if anyone wants to start on that (once naval units are here), that would be sweet. For those of you who take this on, it would be ideal to have the unions organized together, but still separated by country. :D

Question/comment:

I've played many mods where there are "unit specific" to a certain country...yet you can still build them as other countries. For example: The Panzer tank in WWII was, I believe, a German-specific tank...so it should only be able to be built by the Germans (yes, I know that unit is in the past...just using it as an example). Just making sure that we are going to keep country-specific units only build-able in those countries.

Question/comment:

I've played many mods where there are "unit specific" to a certain country...yet you can still build them as other countries. For example: The Panzer tank in WWII was, I believe, a German-specific tank...so it should only be able to be built by the Germans (yes, I know that unit is in the past...just using it as an example). Just making sure that we are going to keep country-specific units only build-able in those countries.


hey bud

Let's continue this discussion here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=7575015#post7575015).

Another thing- we can't really include air transport units unless we can get the AI to use them. They are very cool, I've used them in maxriga. But the AI doesn't use them at all as far as I can tell, no matter how many they have or how badly they need to use them. So unless someone can come up with a fix for this, which is unlikely, we have to leave them out. :(

will get on with Naval forces tonight, going to be a long night methinks...

With regard to air transports. they are critical to resuply and troop movements over longer distances quickly. perhaps rationalise it for the time being to a medium and long range lift aircraft, that way the human can still use it

Nuclear sub classes are up

destroyers and cruisers are up and finished

Frigates are UP! over to you DVS ;)

Fantastic bro. I will add the needed units to the art thread tomorrow, and start figuring out which ones already exist, and which ones we need.

good luck, your gonna need it!

damn you're right... that's a lot of units. Well, time to dive in. Obviously the vast majority of these are going to start with placeholder art.

I agree with your prognosis regarding units under construction. For the sake of simplicity and consistency, let's chalk up all under construction units as existing units.

Also units that are in development but not production (eg: Barracuda class sub), I think we should probably add new techs as you suggested.

We'll get a list together and then figure out how to add them.

Submarines

SSN

Nuclear attack submarines

- Los Angeles class
- Virginia class
- Trafalgar Class
- Astute class
- Victor III class
- Akula class
- Graney
- Rubis class
- Barracuda class
- Type 091
- Type 093


SSBN

Nuclear Ballistic Missile Submarines

- Triomphant class
- Delta IV class
- Borei class
- Ohio class
- Ohio Class (Modified as Guided Missile Submarine)
- Vanguard class
- Type 094
- Advanced Technology Vessel (India)



DD
Destroyers

- Type 45
- Type 42
- MEKO 360
- Udaloy Class
- Kashin class destroyer
- Sovremenny class destroyer
- Kolkata class destroyer
- Delhi class destroyer
- Type 051 destroyer
- Type 052C destroyer
- Horizon class frigate
- Tourville class frigate
- Durand de la Penne class destroyer
- Atago class destroyer
- Takanami class destroyer
- Murasame class destroyer
- Kongō class destroyer
- Asagiri class destroyer
- Hatsuyuki class destroyer
- Chungmugong Yi Sun-sin class destroyer
- King Sejong the Great class destroyer
- Arleigh Burke class destroyer
- Zumwalt class destroyer
- Kidd class destroyer


Frigates

- Espora class frigate
- Adelaide class frigate (Modified Oliver Hazard Perry Design)
- Anzac class frigate
- Type 053 frigate
- Type 053H3 frigate
- Type 054 frigate
- Type 23 frigate
- Type 22 frigate
- Type 41 frigate
- Type 61 Frigate
- Wielingen class frigate
- Niteroi class frigate
- Garcia class frigate
- Oliver Hazard Perry class frigate
- Koni class frigate
- Halifax class frigate
- Karel Doorman class frigate
- Jacob van Heemskerck class frigate
- Almirante Padilla\Kasturi class frigate
- Thetis class ocean patrol vessel
- Knox class frigate
- Floréal class frigate
- La Fayette class frigate
- Commandant Rivière class frigate
- Georges Leygues class frigate
- Cassard class frigate
- Bremen class frigate
- Brandenburg class frigate
- Sachsen class frigate
- Kortenaer class frigate
- Shivalik class frigate
- Talwar class frigate
- Brahmaputra class frigate
- Godavari class frigate
- Tribal class frigate
- Van Speijk class frigate
- Alvand class frigate
- Moudge class frigate
- Lupo class frigate
- Maestrale class frigate
- Yubari class destroyer escort
- Abukuma class destroyer escort
- Lekiu class frigate
- Kasturi class frigate
- Descubierta class frigate
- De Zeven Provinciën class frigate
- Fridtjof Nansen class frigate
- Najin class frigate
- Type 21 frigate
- Vasco da Gama class frigate
- Rear-Admiral Eustaţiu Sebastian class frigate
- Admiral Petre Bărbuneanu class frigate
- Riga class frigate
- Petya class frigate
- Krivak class frigate
- Neustrashimy class frigate
- Ulsan class frigate
- Álvaro de Bazán class frigate
- Tartarstan/Gepard class frigate



We're going to have to trim this down a bit a think. Are all of these frigates really that different? Or can we merge a bunch of them together?

some can be merged aye

im thinking some do look quite smiliar so one art can cover afew ships.

problem with FF's is, every bloody bugger can build one cos they can be pretty dammned low tech, hence the proliferation of ships of 2-5 ships in a class

I mean even more than art though man. I mean totally merging, leaving some of the frigates out and replacing those with ones we do include. If that makes sense.

Sub and destroyers I think are fine, we can include all those.

But there are like over 40 frigates there, do we need that many is my question.

i imagine some can be combined quite easily
will have a go on the weekend

ok I will focus on getting subs and destroyers in the mod until then.

no longer needed

That is great pal, thanks for doing that. So I guess we are almost done here? Missing only transports and carriers?

If I may, perhaps we can just go with a headcount of transports, rather than getting specific. Or maybe have two kinds of transport, an older one an a modern one. Anyway just a suggestion, I will bow to your wisdom sheep.

What did I do wrong to come up with 45 here?



- Anzac class frigate (Australia\New Zealand)
- Halifax class frigate (Canada)
- Thetis class ocean patrol vessel (Denmark)
- Moudge class frigate (Iran)
- Yubari class destroyer escort (Japan)
- Abukuma class destroyer escort (Japan)
- Descubierta class frigate (Spain)
- Fridtjof Nansen class frigate (Spain)
- Najin class frigate (North Korea)
- Rear-Admiral Eustatiu Sebastian class frigate (Romania)
- Admiral Petre Barbuneanu class frigate (Romania)
- Ulsan class frigate (South Korea)
- Álvaro de Bazán class frigate (Spain)
- Type 23 frigate (United Kingdom)
- Type 22 frigate (UK)

-1970's UK Frigate (UK)
*Replacing Type 61 Class, Type 41 Class, Tribal Class & Alvand Class Frigates

- 1980's UK Frigate (UK)
*Replacing Niteroi class, Lekiu Class & Type 21 Frigates

- Type 053 frigate (Peoples Republic of China)
- Type 054 frigate (PRC)

- Early 80's MEKO Frigate (West Germany
*Including the MEKO 140 & MEKO 360 classes

- Almirante Padilla\Kasturi class frigate (West Germany)

- Vasco da Gama class frigate (Germany -Part of the Meko family)
*Including MEKO 200 PN, MEKO 200TN, MEKO 200 HN subclasses.

- Bremen class frigate (Germany)
- Brandenburg class frigate (Germany)
- Sachsen class frigate (Germany)
- Valour class frigate (Germany)

- 1960's Soviet Frigate (Russian Federation)
*Including the Riga & Petya classes

- 1970's Soviet Frigate (Russian Federation)
*Including the Krivak & Koni classes

- Neustrashimy class frigate (Russian Federation)
- Talwar class frigate (Russian Federation)
- Tartarstan/Gepard class frigate (Russian Federation)

- Garcia class frigate (USA)
- Oliver Hazard Perry class frigate (USA & under license in Spain\Taiwan\Australia)
- Knox class frigate (USA)

-Basic early French Frigate (EU)
*Including the Commandant Rivière & Caassard Classes

- 1990's French Frigate (EU)
*Including the Floréal & Georges Leygues Classes


- La Fayette class frigate (France & Licence built by Singapore)

-Early Dutch & Belgien Frigate
*Including the Wielingen & Van Speijk class

- Kortenaer class frigate (Netherlands)
*Including the Jacob Van Heemskerk Class AA Variant

- Karel Doorman class frigate (Netherlands)
- De Zeven Provinciën class frigate (Netherlands)

- Lupo class frigate (Italy)
- Maestrale class frigate (Italy)

- Indian Leander variant frigate (India)
*Including the Brahmaputra, Godavari and Nilfiri Classes

- Shivalik class frigate (India)

nothing, the ones I combined originaly counted up to 33, they now add up to 15-20 of the current total. Before there were over 65 :p

I'll have another crack at it tonight mate.

you lost me


sorry I think I've been staring at xml code for too long

lol

the list was oriningall 65 or so ships long. after cutting that down we now arrive at the number 45 after I have combined a number of classes. More sense?

ok I get it. Yeah we still need to cut it down unfortunately. With our merges and leaderheads and everything we're approaching 700 megs already here and we still have all the units and unique buildings to add. :help:

Although that will come down a lot when we pack our graphics. I hope.

ya doing well dude.

will crack on with Frigates this afternoon

no longer needed

how many did you cut down? things may have to get somewhat skewed frigate wise I'm afraid. :(


I'm not saying you have to keep figuring this out now, just that we may not be able to get all these in.

thats 42 total we have now. less than the total number of civs were creating. can you log onto Yahoo?

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CANADIAN BUILT


- Halifax class frigate (Canada)
-- Operators
--- 12 Canada

Notes - Non buildable starting unit


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MINOR EUROPEAN NATIONS


Minor EU Nations Common Frigate
-- Operators
--- 4 Denmark
--- 4 Romania
--- 3 Bulgaria
--- 6 Indonesia

Notes - Non buildable starting unit, including Thetis Class, Admiral Petre Barbuneanu class, Rear-Admiral Eustatiu Sebastian class, Wielingen class, Van Speijk class

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IRANIAN BUILT


- Moudge class frigate (Iran)
-- Operators
--- 2 (Iran)

Notes - In production


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JAPANESE BUILT


- Abukuma class destroyer escort (Japan)
-- Operators
--- 8 Japan

Notes - Non builable starting unit including the Yubari class destroyer escort


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SPANISH BUILT


- Descubierta class frigate (Spain)
-- Operators
--- 5 Spain
--- 2 Egypt
--- 1 Morroco

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Álvaro de Bazán class frigate (Spain)
-- Operators
--- 4 Spain
--- 3 Norway

Notes - In production and including the Fridtjof Nansen class variant

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SOUTH KOREAN BUILT


- Ulsan class frigate (South Korea)
-- Operators
--- 9 South Korea
--- 1 Bangladesh

Notes - non buildable start unit


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BRITISH BUILT

- Type 23 frigate (United Kingdom)
-- Operators
--- 13 UK
--- 3 Chile

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Type 22 frigate (UK)
-- Operators
--- 4 Brazil
--- 2 Romania
--- 1 Chile
--- 14 UK

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

1970's UK Frigate (UK)
--- 4 Bangladesh
--- 3 Indonesia
--- 3 Iran
--- 9 India

Non buildable starting unit including the Brahmaputra, Godavari, Indian Leander Variants and Nilfiri Classes


Replacing Type 61 Class, Type 41 Class, Tribal Class & Alvand Class Frigates

- 1980's UK Frigate (UK)
--- 6 Pakistan
--- 2 Malaysia
--- 7 Brazil

- Replacing Niteroi class, Lekiu Class & Type 21 Frigates


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CHINESE BUILT


- Type 053 frigate (Peoples Republic of China)
-- Operators
--- 46 PRC
--- 1 Bangladesh
--- 4 Thailand
--- 2 Egypt
--- 2 North Korea

Notes -non buildable starting unit - this should be laughably bad!

Notes - Non buildable starting unit invcluding the Type 053H3 frigate class & Najin class frigate

- Type 054 frigate (PRC)
-- Operators
--- 6 PRC

Notes - In Production


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GERMAN BUILT


- Early 80's MEKO Frigates (West Germany)
-- Operators
--- 10 Argentina
--- 1 Nigeria
--- 4 Colombia
--- 2 Malaysia

Notes - Non Buildable & Including the MEKO 140, MEKO 360 classes & Almirante Padilla\Kasturi class frigate

- MEKO 200 Frigate (Germany)
-- Operators
--- 8 Australia
--- 2 New Zealand
--- 3 Portugal
--- 8 Turkey
--- 4 Greece
--- 4 South Africa

Notes - Non buildable starting unit & Including MEKO 200 PN, MEKO 200TN, MEKO 200 HN, MEKO 200RAN\RNZN subclasses, MEKO 200 SAN.

- Bremen class frigate (Germany)
-- Operators
--- 12 Germany

Notes - Non buildable starting unit including the Brandenburg class frigate

- Sachsen class frigate (Germany)
-- Operators
--- 3 Germany

Notes - Non buildable starting unit



----------------------------------------------------
SOVIET\RUSSIAN BUILT


- 1960's Soviet Frigate
-- Operators
--- 3 Bulgaria
--- 6 Vietnam
--- 2 Syria

Notes - Non buildable starting unit including the Riga & Petya classes

- 1970's Soviet Frigate
--- 16 Russian Federation
--- 1 Ukraine
--- 3 Algeria
--- 1 Bulgaria
--- 2 Egypt

Notes - Non buildable startin unit including the Krivak & Koni classes

- Neustrashimy class frigate (USSR\Russian Federation)
-- Operators
--- 1 Russian Federation

Notes - In production

- Talwar class frigate (Russia)
-- Operators
--- 3 India

Notes - In production - 3 more on order from Russia

- Tartarstan/Gepard class frigate (Russian Federation)
-- Operators
--- 1 Russian Federation
--- 0 Vietnam

Notes - In production, 4 ordered by Vietnam.


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UNITED STATES BUILT

- Oliver Hazard Perry class frigate (USA & under license in Spain\Taiwan\Australia)
-- Operators
--- 30 USA
--- 10 Turkey
--- 6 Spain
--- 8 Taiwan
--- 2 Poland
--- 4 Egypt
--- 1 Bahrain
--- 4 Australia
Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Knox class frigate (USA)
-- Operators
--- 12 Turkey
--- 4 Mexico
--- 2 Thailand
--- 2 Egypt
--- 8 Taiwan

Notes - Non buildable starting unit


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FRENCH BUILT


-Basic early French Frigates
-- Operators
--- 3 Uruguay
--- 2 France

Notes - Non buildable starting unit including the Commandant Rivière & Caassard Classes

- 1990's French Frigates(France)
-- Operators
--- 13 France
--- 2 Morroco

Notes - Non buildable starting unit including the Floréal & Georges Leygues Classes


- La Fayette class frigate (France & Licence built by Singapore)
-- Operators
--- 5 France
--- 6 Taiwan
--- 6 Singapore
--- 3 Saudi Arabia

Notes - Non buildable starting unit


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BENELUX BUILT

- Kortenaer class frigate (Netherlands)
-- Operators
--- 10 Greece
--- 2 United Arab Emirates
--- 2 Chile

Notes - Non buildable starting unit including the Jacob Van Heemskerk Class AA Variant

- Karel Doorman class frigate (Netherlands)
-- Operators
--- 2 Belgium
--- 2 Chile
--- 2 Portugal
--- 2 Netherlands

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- De Zeven Provinciën class frigate (Netherlands)
-- Operators
--- 4 Netherlands

Notes - Non buildable starting unit


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ITALIAN BUILT


- Lupo class frigate (Italy)
-- Operators
--- 8 Peru
--- 6 Venezula
--- 4 Italy

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Maestrale class frigate (Italy)
-- Operators
--- 8 Italy

Notes - Non buildable starting unit


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
INDIAN BUILT

- Shivalik class frigate (India)
-- Operators
--- 2 India

Notes - In production

Right, I have used a crowbar and alot of brute force and managed to squeeze this down to 33 ship classes, considering we started with 65 I think thats a minor miracle! Really, this is as low as it gets before we have major distortions from reality and lose the realistic look we were going for.

SS: Attack Submarine (Diesel-Electric Power) - some of the most modern classes can carry cruise missiles for land attack
- Lada class submarine (Russia)
-- Operators
--- 2 Russia

Notes - In production - carries small No. of cruise missiles

- Kilo class submarine (USSR\Russia)
-- Operators
--- 4 Algeria
--- 12 Peoples Republic of China (PRC)
--- 10 India
--- 2 Indonesia
--- 6 Iran
--- 1 Poland
--- 1 Romania
--- 24 Russian Federation (of which 8 are in Reserve)

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Romeo class submarine (USSR\PRC)
-- Operators
--- 31 China
--- 22 North Korea
--- 1 Bulgaria
--- 4 Egypt

Notes - Non buildable starting unit - Obsolete in every way.

- Foxtrot Class (USSR)
-- Operators
--- 2 India
--- 1 Ukraine

Notes - Non buildable starting unit - can be left out if need be

- Type 214 submarine (Germany) (South Korea\Greece (due to commision soon)\Turkey)
-- Operators
--- 4 Greece
--- 4 South Korea - 5 more building in South Korean yards
--- 0 Turkey (in final stages of negotiation for 6 subs)

Notes - In production

- Type 212 submarine (Germany)
-- Operators
--- 4 Germany
--- 2 Italy

Notes - In production

- Dolphin class submarine (Germany) (Israel) - non buildable starting unit
-- Operators
--- 3 Israel

Notes- Non buildable starting unit (suspected to be able to launc nuclear tipped "popeye turbo" missiles.

- Ula class submarine (Germany)
-- Operators
--- 6 Norway

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Type 209 submarine (all subclasses produced by Germany)
-- Operators
--- 1 Argentina
--- 4 Brazil
--- 2 Chile
--- 2 Columbia
--- 2 Ecuador
--- 8 Greece
--- 4 India
--- 2 Indonesia
--- 9 South Korea
--- 6 Peru
--- 3 South Africa
--- 14 Turkish Navy
--- 2 Venezuela

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Type 206 submarine (Germany)
-- Operators
--- 6 Germany

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Södermanland\Västergötland class submarine (Sweden\Singapore) - non buildable unit
-- Operators
--- 2 Sweden
--- 2 Singapore

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

-Gotland class submarine (Sweden) (Sweden) - non buildable starting unit
-- Operators
--- 3 Sweden

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Kobben class submarine (Germany)
-- Operators
--- 5 Poland

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Collins class submarine (Australia) (Australia)
-- Operators
--- 6 Australia

Notes - Non buildable starting unit - can carry small No. of cruise missiles

- Upholder\Victoria Class Submarine (UK)
-- Operators
--- 4 Canada

Notes - Non buildable starting unit


- Scorpène class submarine (France\Spain\under licence in India)
-- Operators
--- 2 Chile
--- 0 India - 6 building in India
--- 2 Malaysia

Notes - In production

- Agosta 90B class submarine (France)
-- Operators
--- 4 Spain
--- 5 Pakistan

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Nahang class submarine (Iran) (Iran)
-- Operators
--- 1

Notes - Non buildable starting unit - carries small No. of missiles

- Yugo class submarine (North Korea)
-- Operators
--- 4 Iran

Notes - SF infiltration submarine

- Sauro class submarine (Italy)
-- Operators
--- 5 Italy

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Harushio class submarine (Japan) (Japan) - non buildable starting unit
-- Operators
--- 7 Japan

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Oyashio class submarine (Japan)
-- Operators
--- 11 Japan

Notes - last boat in commission 2008

- Walrus class submarine (Netherlands) (Netherlands)
-- Operators
--- 4 Netherlands

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Hai Lung\ Zwaardvis class submarine (Netherlands)
-- Operators
--- 2 Taiwan

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- S-80 class Submarine (Spain\UK)
-- Operators
--- 0 Spain

Notes - In production, 4 ordered

thats all Submarines done, YAY!

This may be a bit late in the game and all, but: why do we need country-specific ships, no less frigates? Are they dramatically different? Wouldn't it be better to add different categories of ships, or apply weapons to them and make those into different classes.

They are very different. We are trying to get every military as accurate as possible. Giving everyone the same frigates would not be realistic, plus it's boring.

different ships built to different standards, different designs, different missions, different lifespans, different technology. There are vast differences between, say an Indian 1970's frigate of UK design to a Japanese ship constructed in 2007.

Also, frigates are the workhorses of most modern navies, there importance in modern naval operations and warfare merit there inclusion like this.

Great work as usual sheep21, thanks!


-Halifax class frigate (Canada)
-Minor EU Nations Common Frigate
- Moudge class frigate (Iran)
- Abukuma class destroyer escort (Japan)
- Descubierta class frigate (Spain)
- Álvaro de Bazán class frigate (Spain)
- Ulsan class frigate (South Korea)
- Type 23 frigate (United Kingdom)
- Type 22 frigate (UK)
-1970's UK Frigate (UK)
- 1980's UK Frigate (UK)
- Type 053 frigate (Peoples Republic of China)
- Type 054 frigate (PRC)
- Early 80's MEKO Frigates (West Germany)
- MEKO 200 Frigate (Germany)
- Bremen class frigate (Germany)
- Sachsen class frigate (Germany)
- 1960's Soviet Frigate
- 1970's Soviet Frigate
- Neustrashimy class frigate (USSR\Russian Federation)
- Talwar class frigate (Russia)
- Tartarstan/Gepard class frigate (Russian Federation)
- Oliver Hazard Perry class frigate (USA)
- Knox class frigate (USA)
-Basic early French Frigates
- 1990's French Frigates(France)
- La Fayette class frigate (France & Licence built by Singapore)
- Kortenaer class frigate (Netherlands)
- Karel Doorman class frigate (Netherlands)
- De Zeven Provinciën class frigate (Netherlands)
- Lupo class frigate (Italy)
- Maestrale class frigate (Italy)
- Shivalik class frigate (India)


Looks good, I'll add these to the art thread.

Carriers

CVN: Multi-purpose Aircraft Carrier (Nuclear-Propulsion)
- Gerald R. Ford class aircraft carrier (United States of America)
-- Air Group: 75+ Jets\Helos\AWAC
-- Ground Troops: 0
--- Operators
---- 0 US

Notes - In productionFirst Unit building, in service by 2015

- Nimitz class aircraft carrier (USA)
-- Air Group: 85 Jets\Helos\AWAC
-- Ground troops: 0
--- Operators
---- 10 USA

Notes - Last unit commisioned on 10th January 2009

- Enterprise Class Aircraft Carrier (USA)
-- Air Group: up to 90 Jets\Helos\AWAC
-- Ground Troops: 0
--- Operators
---- 1 USA

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Charles de Gaulle Class Aircraft Carrier (France)
-- Air Group: 40 Jets\Helos\AWAC
-- Ground Troops: 800 + equipment
--- Operators
---- 1 France

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Admiral Kuznetsov class aircraft carrier (USSR\Russian Federation)
-- Air Group: 41 Jets/Helo
--- Operators
---- 1 Russian Federation

Notes - Non buildable starting unit


CV: Multi-purpose Aircraft Carrier

- Kitty Hawk class aircraft carrier (USA) (US)
-- Air Group: up to 90 Jets\Helos\AWAC
--- Operators
---- 1 USA

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Queen Elizabeth class Aircraft Carrier (United Kingdom)
-- Air Group: up to 50 Jets\Helos\AWACS
-- Ground troops: 850 + equipment
--- Operators
---- 0 UK

Notes - In production, first in servce by 2014

- Invincible class aircraft carrier (UK)
-- Air Group: up to 25 Jumpjets\Helos
-- Ground troops: 500 + equipment
--- Operators
---- 2 UK

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Centaur class aircraft carrier (UK)
-- Air Group: up to 30 Jumpjets\Helos
-- Ground troops: 400 troops + equipment
--- Operators
---- 1 India

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Vikrant class aircraft carrier (India)
-- Air Group: Up to 30 Jets\Helos
-- Ground Troops: 0
--- Operators
---- 0 India

Notes - first due to enter serive in 2012

- Clemenceau class Aircraft Carrier (France)
-- Airgroup: up to 40 Jets\Helos
-- Ground troops: 0
--- Operators
---- 1 Brazil

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Kiev class aircraft carrier (USSR)
-- Airgroup: 22 Jets\Helos
-- Ground troops: 0
--- Operators
---- 1 India - undergoing heavy modernization and refurb, due in service in 2012

NOte - Non buildable starting unit

- Cavour Class Aircraft Carrier (Italy)
-- Air Group: up to 25 Jumpjets\Helos
-- Ground Troops: 325 + equipment
--- Operators
---- 1 Italy

Notes - Commisioned in 2009 (possibly still buildable?)

- Giuseppe Garibaldi Class Aircraft Carrier (Italy)
-- Airgroup: 18 Jumpjets\helos
-- Ground troops: 0
--- Operators
---- 1 Italy

Notes - Nonbuildable starting unit

- Príncipe de Asturias class Aircraft Carrier (Spain)
-- Air Group: 29 Jumpjets\Helos
-- Ground Troops: 0
--- Operators
---- 1 Spain

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Juan Carlos I class
-- Airgroup: up to 30 Jumpjets\helos
-- Ground forces: 1200 + equipment
--- Operators
---- 0 Spain

Notes - In production and in service 2011


- Chakri Naruebet class aircraft Carrier (Spain)
-- Air Group: 12 Jumpjets\Helos
-- Ground Troops: 450+ equipment
--- Operators
---- 1 Thailand

Notes - Non buildable starting unit - worlds smallest aircraft carrier :P


Helocopter Carriers:

- Ocean Class (UK)
-- Air Group: 18 Helos\6 Jump Jets
-- Ground troops: 800 troops + equipment
--- Operators
---- 1 UK

Notes - Non buildable starting unit - No. of Jets\helos varies

- Tarawa class amphibious assault ship (USA)
-- Air Group: up to 35 Helos
-- Ground Troops: 1900 troops + Equipment
--- Operators
---- 5 USA

Notes - Non buildable starting unit

- Wasp class amphibious assault ship (USA)
-- AirGroup: 22 Helos\ 6 Jumpjets
-- Ground Troops: 1900 troops + equipment
--- Operators
---- 8 USA

Notes - No. of jets\Helos varies depending on mission

- America class amphibious assault ship (USA)
-- Airgroup: 28 Helos
-- Ground troops: 1700
--- Operators
---- 0 USA

Notes - In production, first in service 2012

- Hyūga class helicopter destroyer (Japan) (Japan) - 0 - 6Helo first entering service in 2009
-- Air Group: 11 Helos
-- Ground Troops: 0
--- Operators
---- 1 Japan

Notes - In production

Great stuff, all added to the unit art thread.

I guess all that is left are the APCs, which I believe Mattygerst is presently working on. Then all we need is a count of transports (not doing unique transports for now), and we're done with unit research! Is that possible?

Amphibious Assualt Ships

Landing ship dock
A Dock landing ship or Landing ship (Dock) (hull classification LSD) is a form of auxiliary warship designed to support amphibious operations. These amphibious assault ships transport and launch amphibious craft and vehicles with their crews and embarked personnel. In the US Navy, two classes are in service, the Whidbey Island and Harpers Ferry classes, mainly used to carry Landing Craft Air Cushions (LCACs), as well as carrying marines. The Royal Navy also operates four ships of the Bay class.

-- Air Capacity: Cabable of holding Helos up to chinook size
-- Ground Capacity: 32 MBT + 360 Troops
-- Naval Capacity: 5 Landing Craft
-- Operators
--- 4 UK
--- 12 USA

Notes - None in production (combining the Bay, Whidbey & Harper's Ferry Classes.

Landing platform dock
An amphibious transport dock (also called a landing platform dock or LPD) is an amphibious warfare ship, a warship that embarks, transports, and lands elements of a landing force for expeditionary warfare missions. Several navies currently operate this kind of ship. The ships are generally designed to transport troops into a war zone by sea, primarily using landing craft, although invariably they also have the capability to operate transport helicopters.

Amphibious transport docks perform the mission of amphibious transports, amphibious cargo ships, and the older LPDs by incorporating both a flight deck and a well deck that can be ballasted and deballasted to support landing craft or amphibious vehicles.

-- Air Capacity: Capable of landing small No. of transport helos
-- Ground Capacity: 10 MBT + 710 troops
-- Naval Capacity: 4 Landing Craft
--- Operators
---- 2 UK
---- 15 USA
---- 2 Spain
---- 2 Netherlands
---- 3 Italy
---- 4 Singapore
---- 3 Japan
---- 1 India
---- 2 France
---- 1 PRC

Tank landing ship
- 70\80's Western LST
-- Ground Capacity: 750 troops
-- Naval Capacity: None
-- Air Capacity: None
--- Operators:
---- 2 Mexico
---- 2 Taiwan
---- 2 Peru
---- 2 Australia
---- 2 Malaysia
---- 1 Morroco
---- 5 Greece
---- 4 India

Notes - Non buildable starting unit including a multitude of classes


Amphibious Warships, Done!

These are different from your standard transports I guess?

yee, specialised forms of transports
not every country has sealift capacity, these are the modern military naval tranports today.

Cruisers:
- De Zeven Provinciën class cruiser (Netherlands) (Peru) - non buildable starting unit
- Ticonderoga class Missile cruiser (US) (US) - non buildable starting unit
- Jeanne d'Arc (R 97) helicopter cruiser (France) (France) - non buildable starting unit
- Kirov class battlecruiser (USSR) (Russian Federation) - non buildable starting unit

whoops, wrong thread

DVS: I saw a post directed at me in a thread...but I can't find it as of this moment...

It was about research for the transport/armor units.

Sure, I will do the research...give me the list of units and the information you want and I will get it done.

Great thanks, I'll ask sheep21 to send you the details.

There is Japan Main battle Tank in here.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=11652

and also main air fighter unit.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10101

Thanks Sea of Japan! perfecto

For future reference, use this thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=305312) for art related stuff.

One I forgot:

- Mikoyan MiG-29 (USSR\Russia)
-- Operators
--- 105 Algeria
--- 48 Azerbaijan
--- 16 Bangladesh
--- 50 Belarus
--- 20 Bulgaria
--- 14 Cuba
--- 5 Eritrea
--- 21 Hungary
--- 109 India
--- 75 Iran
--- 40 Kazkhstan
--- 10 Lebanon
--- 16 Malaysia
--- 27 Burma\Myanmar
--- 40 North Korea
--- 19 Peru
--- 44 Poland
--- 580 Russia
--- 4 Serbia
--- 21 Slovakia
--- 10 Sudan
--- 56 Syria
--- 20 Turkmenistan
--- 217 Ukraine
--- 30 Uzbekistan
--- 44 Yemen

Notes - In production

wow, major slip up on my part!

- M-60 Patton All variants (USA)
-- Operators
--- 45 Bosnia and Herzegovina
--- 91 Brazil
--- 1700 Egypt
--- 306 Greece
--- 950 Iran
--- 822 Israel
--- 83 Jordan
--- 30 Lebanon
--- 560 Morroco
--- 73 Oman
--- 100 Portugal
--- 450 Saudi Arabia
--- 260 Spain
--- 29 Sudan
--- 450 Taiwan
--- 53 Thailand
--- 84 Tunisia
--- 925 Turkey
--- 240 Yemen

Notes - Non builable starting unit

I know I may not have much of a business around here, not being of the team and all, but I am just curious, how did you guys get those list? Because if I check, for example, the Navy and Air Force page of Brazil, I see there is quite different numbers of somethings there, as well as many things not documented up here. You can check in English the wiki, which seems accurate enough if I compare with the Brazilian sources I gave a read: Air Force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Air_Force) - Navy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_navy). ( list of ships (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ships_of_the_Brazilian_Navy) - list of Air Units only from the Navy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_the_Brazilian_Navy))

See it? There are specific numbers of each models we have there. And also, we are supposed to have the biggest Navy in South America...

I am only talking about Brazil as an example because I could read the official Brazilian Navy and Air Force websites and know what I just talked about. That is why I am curious, did you guys check each country one by one, or..?

Now, feel free to ignore me though, I am not part of the team, I am just curious.

the lists were compiled from the english wiki aswell as the global security website. I refrained from using Ministry of Defence websites as usually they are a.) in a foreign language and b.) dont always contain the numbers. I did this by going through country by country and class by class

Hope that answers your question :)

the lists were compiled from the english wiki aswell as the global security website. I refrained from using Ministry of Defence websites as usually they are a.) in a foreign language and b.) dont always contain the numbers. I did this by going through country by country and class by class

Hope that answers your question :)

That does it, thank you!

Keep up the good work! :goodjob:

your welcome Arlborn, I hope youlike the mod when it comes out :)

so far the individual militaries of the following countries have been added to the spreadsheet:
EU
USA
UK
Russia
Belarus
Georgia
Ukraine
Morocco

The going is slow (particularly for civs made up of many countries, I'm dreading failed states and Africa!)but I should have it done by the end of the week as per asked :)

Wow that's great sheep21, thanks. You're the man.

Too bad we keep missing each other on yahoo. Damn international time zones.

So far I have added:

European Union (EU excluding UK)
United Kingdom (Jamaica, Belize, Bahamas, Trinidad)
Norway
Russia
Belarus
Ukraine
Turkey
Georgia

Morocco
Algeria (Tunisia)
Egypt
Sudan
Ethiopia
West African States (Burkina Faso, Mali, Niger, Senegal, and Togo.)
Nigeria (Ghana, Liberia and Sierra Leone)
Central African States (Cameroon, São Tomé, Equatorial Guinea and Gabon)
Angola (DR Congo)
South Africa (Botswana and Namibia)
East African States (Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda and Burundi)

Saudi Arabia
Israel
Palestine
Syria
Iran
Pakistan
Bangladesh
India


to the excel spreadsheet.

TO give an example of the data being out in (as requested by DVS) is show below:

In Service On order Civ Numbers
United Kingdom
Infantry 121740
Main Battle Tanks
Challenger 2 366
Armoured Fighting Vehicle
5th Gen. Fighter
F-35 Lightning II 0 138
4.5th Gen. Fighter
Eurofighter Typhoon 49
4th Gen. Fighter
Panavia Tornado ADV 152
Helicopter Gunships
AH-64 Apache\Westland WAH-64 Apache 67
Air Transport Vessel
Lockheed C-130 Hercules 44
Airbus A400M 0 25
C-17 Globemaster III 6
Frigates
Type 23 Class 13
Type 22 Class 14
Destroyers
Type 45 Class 1
Type 42 Class 8
CV
Invincible Class 3
Queen Elizabeth Class 0 2
Helicopter Carriers
Ocean Class 1
Landing Ship Dock 4
Landing Platform Dock 2
SSN
Trafalgar Class 7
Astute Class 1
SSBN
Vanguard Class 4
Self Propelled Artillery 179
Towed Artillery 122
MRLS 100

should be done by the end of the first week in april

Kazakhstan
Mongolia
China
Taiwan
North Korea
South Korea
Japan

the above have been added to the excel database, when this is completed it will be THE source for units for the mod :)