When I try to start a scenario I get a CtD, I have tries it with all the initially available scenarios and ''Play Now'' vs ''Custom Game'' but I still get a CtD.

I have patch e, and BtS 3.17.

Does anyone know what's gone wrong and how I can fix it?

I get a CTD when trying to load a scenario as well.

Kind of a bummer. I've been looking forward to them ever since the teaser screen was first introduced.

Try going to the Scenarios folder (FFH -> Assets -> XML - Scenarios) and double clicking on the scenario file directly. Worked for me.

That worked for me. You miss out on the whole unlocking / achievement aspect, but it's good enough for now.

Thanks for the tip.

I've worked it out! Or at least I seem to have.

To avoid the CtD's you have to start a game as a specific leader, doesn't matter who, but not as ''Random Leader''. This lets you play the scenarios.

oor just fortify your starting units and wait till about turn 3... then go play a scenario, and i wish there was a directory in the title screen

I am having a terrible time getting scenarios to load. I've given up for now, but I thought I'd drop in and say that with patch "f" and following all the instructions people have posted isn't working for me.

So far, I can't seem to find a pattern. Sometimes it works, most of the time not. Each time it doesn't load I end up with a CTD.

Running WinXP pro x64 on an amd machine. All software patched properly.

If you load them directly from the folder, which order should I play them in?

I get the CTD often as well. I have tried loading scenarios 20+ times with only 3 successful tries. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to the CTD vs success. I am now unable to open any scenarios without a CTD. I am going to try to use the load from file in the mod directory option mentioned above.

If you load them directly from the folder, which order should I play them in?

Decius Path:
1. Fall of Cuantine
2. Into the Desert
3. Wages of Sin (unreleased)
4. Against the Grey (unreleased)

Falamar Path:
1. Grand Menagerie
2. The Momus
3. Radiant Guard
4. The Black Tower

Auric Path:
1. Return of Winter
2. Blood of Angels
3. Beneath the Heel
4. The Cult
5. Mulcarn Reborn (unreleaed)

Play anytime:
- Barbarian Assault
- Against the Wall
- The Splintered Court
- Gift of Kylorin
- Lord of the Balors (requires Wages of Sin and Radiant Guard to be complete)

Thank you. I like to try to do them in order, but I have to load them manually.

In XP I copied the contents of (FFH -> Assets -> XML - Scenarios) to My Game ->BTS -> Saves ->WorldBuilder and got them to load.

I can load just fine from the files. The CTD problem seems to be caused by the ingame interface.

I will try to provide feedback on many of the scenarios in the next week or so.

it seems to crash for me if i've been playing for a while. if i just got in right away, it works, but if i play a normal game then decide to switch or play one scenario then try another, it crashes.

I still can't play the scenarios either - I thought this would have been fixed for the final release? CTD every time.

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still won't work patch q

still won't work patch q

How are you trying to load them? Do you have a problem choosing "Play a Scenario -> Fall from Heaven Scenarios" ?

No i made it through the screen in-game. Worked first but then it didn't

No i made it through the screen in-game. Worked first but then it didn't

Hmm, yeah dont use that. Load the scenarios from the scenario menu (it will also be faster than loading a real game to do it). I need to disable the in game scenario menu.

Will do it til' next time.

How are you trying to load them? Do you have a problem choosing "Play a Scenario -> Fall from Heaven Scenarios" ?

I'm experiencing similar problems in loading scenarios. It seems that it can only be done through an option at the game screen. I'm not familiar with this method concerning choosing Play a Scenario and then choosing Fall from Heaven Scenarios; because there isn't such an option (choosing Fall from Heaven Scenarios) on my installment. All I get are those regular civIV scenarios like Fractal and such.

Got the latest patch and BTS installed.

I'm experiencing similar problems in loading scenarios. It seems that it can only be done through an option at the game screen. I'm not familiar with this method concerning choosing Play a Scenario and then choosing Fall from Heaven Scenarios; because there isn't such an option (choosing Fall from Heaven Scenarios) on my installment. All I get are those regular civIV scenarios like Fractal and such.

Got the latest patch and BTS installed.

Does regular FFH2 work properly? It sounds to that if it doesn't that you things may not have installed correctly... :( I would suggest you try loading it manually, I don't remember at the moment but I think you can do that by going into the FFH2 folder wherever it is installed.

I had the problem loading FFH2 scenarios via the in game interface. And those scenarios didn't show up via PLAY A SCENARIO option in the game main menu as well. The two problems went away after I had copied the files under <Fall from Heaven 2\Assets\XML\Scenarios> folder to <Fall from Heaven 2\PublicMaps> folder. :)

When I try to load scenarios, I go to single player, play a scenario, FFH2 Scenarios, and it comes up as Sabathiel, and I click okay. I then comes up with difficulty level and game speed preferences. When I click okay, the screen goes black, and an Error Report pops up, and the game exits. I have patch .40y installed. I can't get it.

I get a CTD when I choose Play Scenarios --> Fall From Heaven 2 Scenarios ---> Civ selection & speed for scenario (skipped if its already chosen for me) ---> scenario loads & CTD right after it starts loading. I remember a time a while back when I played them fine, but that was back in 3.17 before patch y.

I'm currently using 3.19, FFH 0.41b.

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... and apparently the AI mod I almost forgot about was causing it, as I've just managed to start a scenario, after I removed the AI mod. (Turinturambar's Better Economic A.I.)

I am getting problems all over the place.

I can't load the splintered court scenario, but others work.

I can't get saved games to work.

I got the last saved game to finally load afer re-installing the 41d patch.

However, I still have many scenarios that won't load from the Scenario menu.

I have gotten around it by earlier suggestions in this post to just load up the saved file in the XML\Scanario folder.

I've got a similar problem, playing 0.41c. I played the Falamar and Decius storylines up to and including The Radiant Guard and Wages of Sin. I then tried to load Lord of the Balors through the regular FFH scenarios screen (the less hassle the Infernals are, the better) and I got a CTD. This also happens when I try to load Against the Wall. All other scenarios seem to work fine...

I can of course load the scenarios straight from the folder, but I asume that I won't get the reward if I beat it like this..?

Anyone got an idea?

I can't say for sure on the benefits of winning prior scenarios into later ones (like the reduction of barbs when beating Clan). However, I can confirm that the scenario menu continues to work (though still eratcially) when you win a scenario loaded straight from the save folder.

So my advise would keep at it.

I was able to play Barb Assault as Luchuirp but every time I try to pick the Bannor I get a crash to the desktop after the first third of the map loading bar. Any thoughts?

I have a similar problem when I try to load the Splintered court and pick the Ljosalfar. I get almost completely through the map load bar and then crash to desktop. I'll try picking the Svartalfar tonight.

I'm not sure why it should make a difference but if I do the following steps before I load any scenario or multiplayer game I don't get a crash:
1) select single player
2) select play now
3) select any map type
4) keep selecting go no matter the settings until you are at the map
Now you should be able to open any of the scenarios without crashing

Similar problem.

I completed:

The Grand Menagerie, The Momus, The Radiant Guard
Fall of Cuantine, Into the Desert
The Splintered Court
Gift of Kylorin

Now, nothing will load. I'm going through "Play a Scenario" and this worked for the above games, but it refuses to load The Black Tower, Wages of Sin or any of the others. The game crashes. It in fact refused to load The Splintered Court but I had an incomplete save of that and played through again from the earliest save.

I'm running Fall from Heaven 2, Version 0.41f. The problem was the same on 0.41d. It was the same both before and after installing Wild Mana, which is the only modification I've applied.

I've got a similar problem, playing 0.41c. I played the Falamar and Decius storylines up to and including The Radiant Guard and Wages of Sin. I then tried to load Lord of the Balors through the regular FFH scenarios screen (the less hassle the Infernals are, the better) and I got a CTD. This also happens when I try to load Against the Wall. All other scenarios seem to work fine...

I can of course load the scenarios straight from the folder, but I asume that I won't get the reward if I beat it like this..?

Anyone got an idea?
So you played Wages of Sin? I wasn't sure which I played last out of The Radiant Guard and Into the Desert. I had the feeling that playing one of them had caused the problem. Some setting in the code at the end of The Radiant Guard might be causing this, as it was only after completing it that I lost the ability to play other scenarios.

I've just checked. I can play Return of Winter and the Barbarian Assault. It's The Black Tower, Wages of Sin and Against the Wall that cause a crash. The crash happens the moment I select them from the list.

Same for me with Wages of Sin, i have to test the others. I tried loading Wages of Sins directly (copied it to the scenarios folder and select it), i got a message about the game being unable to read the scenario. I ignored it, proceeded further, got other warnings, ignored them, until i had a ctd along some "runtime" error message. I can post each error message if they can help, but they will be in french :dunno:

Oh, sorry for double posting this here and in the Wages of Sins thread. I first posted the error there, then after reading the previous post thought it might be better to report it here. :undecide:

I was able to play Wages of Sin in the end by opening the WorldBuilder save. Search for "Wages" and unless you have a great deal of accountancy docs on your computer you'll probably find it immediately.

I don't know if this gives the trophy – I haven't checked yet. I can't help but think that this must be fixable though.

I was able to play Wages of Sin in the end by opening the WorldBuilder save.
Not sure if it is what you did, but here is how i was finally able to start it (any other way failed, including loading the scenario directly from the main menu)

I started a new quick game (random leader)
As soon as the game started, i opened Wolrd-Builder (ctrl-w)
Within WB, i loaded the scenario from where it was (mods/fall from heaven/assets/xml/scenario IIRC)

And now, i can play it. Not sure what's wrong. Maybe it's due to the civ selection at the beginning that lets you choose between Malakims and Elohims.

Nah, each scenario has a file on your computer which describes itself as a WorldBuilder save. I don't think it's obvious to find which folder it is, but searching all files quickly brings it up. I've just checked and it does unlock the later scenarios properly.

Also, if you'd change the "Win" in my quote to "Sin" – because I unfortunately can't claim to have done that intentionally – I'd be very happy!

Nah, each scenario has a file on your computer which describes itself as a WorldBuilder save. I don't think it's obvious to find which folder it is, but searching all files quickly brings it up. I've just checked and it does unlock the later scenarios properly.

Yeah, i know where they are located, i already tried loading them directly, it failed. Only loading from within world builder worked for me. :dunno:

Well, worked is not entirely true, as the game froze during cpu turns some after some 20 turns or so. The game just hangs there, with the spinning earth cursor, and nothing happens. CPU usage for civ 4 drops to about 2% and i have to kill it. :badcomp:

Also, if you'd change the "Win" in my quote to "Sin" – because I unfortunately can't claim to have done that intentionally – I'd be very happy!

I don't what you are talking about ;)

As more recent posters have described above I too am having only minimal success (~ 10%) starting scenarios from the main menu.

Guess I'll try the world builder thing.

Might be good to add this to the known issues section of the bug thread.

I have only problems with wages of sin: Sometimes it actually loads, but then crashes during the first 10-20 rounds and does the same again and again (each time at the same round), even if I reload my saves.

Edit: Oh, yeah, I forgot. FfH2 41 patch j.

It still occurs during "waiting for civilizations" in round two to three. Savegame is attached. I hope, someone can help me. :)

Was this issue ever resolved?

I can load some of the scenarios, but I get a crash when I try to load Wages of Sin. Running 0.41, patch m, using the scenarios menu from the main menu. I tried reinstalling the patch a few times, but to no avail.

It's possible it's a memory problem - I'm using a somewhat geriatric pc. Any way I can tell if it's a memory or a software problem?

Was this issue ever resolved?

I can load some of the scenarios, but I get a crash when I try to load Wages of Sin. Running 0.41, patch m, using the scenarios menu from the main menu. I tried reinstalling the patch a few times, but to no avail.

It's possible it's a memory problem - I'm using a somewhat geriatric pc. Any way I can tell if it's a memory or a software problem?

Same here. A few scenario's just won't load for me.

Same here also. Black Tower wont load at all, pretty sure thats not a memory problem, maybe its due to me having the steam version though.
In general, ofc its a great work that youve done there with FfH but those scenarios do not appear to have been tested thoroughly. I played FfH1 a few years years ago and thought it was pretty good, i played age of ice at beyond the sword a few months ago and thought it was superb thats how i got into ffh2 but these scenarios really need more work. On the first (grand menagerie) i had to look here and find out youre supposed to look for an elephant and a griffon (it never appeared so i used the wb) on the radiant guard i had to look here after it took me a lot of effort to destroy the last infernal city only to find out here that i was not supposed to kill hyborem before the 100th kill, on the barbarian assault there was never any info that i only needed to conquer one barbarian civ and so forth. only bcos its a fantasy setting shouldnt imply that you need to be a clairvoyant to complete the scenarios....

I can't speak for all of them, but for Grand Menagerie it should be telling you to look for an elephant/griffon (look on the scoreboard!). It did when I last played it. Sometimes patches do break things that worked before so that might be the case here.

Was this issue ever resolved?

I can load some of the scenarios, but I get a crash when I try to load Wages of Sin. Running 0.41, patch m, using the scenarios menu from the main menu. I tried reinstalling the patch a few times, but to no avail.

It's possible it's a memory problem - I'm using a somewhat geriatric pc. Any way I can tell if it's a memory or a software problem?

I often get a CTD loading Wages of Sin, but only on the first try. On the second try, it loads fine. I am using the m patch.

This is still a problem with the new patch.
I can't load the Splintered court or the 2nd scenario for the wolf guys.

If I try loading it from a standard game I get the message that I need to load the special scenario thing. And when I load it and click on the icon I get a neat CTD.

Any help?

Hello all. This is my first post on the forum, and unfortunately I have a very specific reason for signing up and posting.

I've played FfH 2 for months with no issues. Suddenly this morning however, after completing the third Lanun scenario, the game crashes every time I try and load a scenario.

Now, normal games load fine and play well enough. No real issues. This is ONLY with the scenarios, and only since this morning.

I have not touched any system files or made any changes to the game settings today or any time recently. I am utterly at a loss as to what is causing this. I tried reinstalling the game and the patch, and it did not fix the issue.

Hello all. This is my first post on the forum, and unfortunately I have a very specific reason for signing up and posting.

I've played FfH 2 for months with no issues. Suddenly this morning however, after completing the third Lanun scenario, the game crashes every time I try and load a scenario.

Now, normal games load fine and play well enough. No real issues. This is ONLY with the scenarios, and only since this morning.

I have not touched any system files or made any changes to the game settings today or any time recently. I am utterly at a loss as to what is causing this. I tried reinstalling the game and the patch, and it did not fix the issue.

It's been a while since I played the scenarios. Can you remind me which scenario it is?

Thanks,

Breunor

I completed the Radiant Guard Scenario, and now no other scenario will load. I reach the scenario selection screen, but as soon as I click the button to begin one the game just crashes.

I completed the Radiant Guard Scenario, and now no other scenario will load. I reach the scenario selection screen, but as soon as I click the button to begin one the game just crashes.

Is this EVERY scenario - you have tried to load all of the eligible ones? Sorry to be a pain, but can you be specific which ones? It would help.

Thanks,

Breunor

I have played through the first three Lanun scenarios (Grand Managerie, The Momus, Radiant Guard), two of Decius' scenarios (Fall of Cuantine, Into the Desert), and one additional scenario (Barbarian Assault). The Radiant Guard scenario was the last completed, and upon completion, NO OTHER scenario will load at all. I click on the icon to load it and the screen goes black and the game crashes. This is for EVERY OTHER scenario, including ones I have already played and beaten.

Normal single player games still work properly.

I have a similar problem Broktor. In my case I finished the first two scenarios, but the third one is still locked. Now, no matter what scenarios I try to pick, the Momus starting map comes up.

I didn't try loading it through the World Builder as described by some, as I'm not sure how that works.

So... any ideas yet?

So... any ideas yet?

Sigh. Sorry, it impossible for me to make any headway since I can't recreate it. Of course I can't recreate it since I finished the scenarios a long time ago.

The only idea I have is that the bug appears when a certain set of scenarios are played in some sort of order. So you can try deleting FfH, and reload it. The, try the scenarios in a different order. In particular, play more of the scenarios you can play at any time (at the bottom of the list) and some of the Mulcarn Scenarios before trying Radiant Guard.

I hesitate to recommend this, because it is a lot of work and there is a good chance it won't work - but it is the best I can do now.

Best wishes,

Breunor