I figured since it may not be the best idea to discuss making a seal for the nation of Fanatika in the flag thread id start a seal thread :)

Here is my idea for the seal some things are missing and god knows i may not use the stuff in the middle just yet just posting what ive got so far :) For the banner how about We came, We saw and We conquered, in latin of course

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/fanatikaseal1.gif

:eek: Looking good :goodjob:. How did you create the seal :).

Simple circles and a filter that made the bigger circle gold, te rest was just plain old photoshop injinuity

Excellent work. Have you tried any motto's yet?

if anyone has one in latin that will work ill add it, as long as it fits in the aloted space :)

Do you know what the Latin phrase is for strawberry-filled doughnuts?

no, i havent found a good latin to english dictionary yet

I like that one... Is there a latin expert in the house?

On your current seal, Fionn, I like it. Is it possible, however, to change the top words to 'The Great Seal of'

Shouldnt be a problem

we had some proposals in the flag thread. they need translation though.

like:
"the will of the people should be our prime law"

I can give you 'The welfare of the people shall be supreme law.'

Salus populi suprema lex esto

why latin? I think german might be more appropriate. Don't want the romans getting uppity!

how about: Ich bin ein berliner = "I am a doughnut"

or so I've heard ;)

:lol::rotfl:

Look at it from the prespective of a visitor. What would you think of a civ who's motto was 'I am a doughnut?'

We would never be able to travel to the middle of the world then.

I would so prefer the motto:
the will of the people shall be supreme law

which would propably go to:
? populi suprema lex esto
whatever "the will" means maybe we could also have it like
? sprema lex esto
when we winf out what "the public opinion" means

Love the seal! Though it is "Fanatika", not "Fanatica" :)

Though I think our latin motto should be more along the lines of:

Through Chaos comes...more chaos

or maybe

Victory, Death, or a good PI!

Originally posted by Octavian X
:lol::rotfl:

Look at it from the prespective of a visitor. What would you think of a civ who's motto was 'I am a doughnut?'

Hey, it worked for JFK... :p

Originally posted by Eklektikos


Hey, it worked for JFK... :p

I don't know much about american history, but I'm pretty sure JFK was not a doughnut.
Wasn't he a pastry of some kind?

Originally posted by Almightyjosh


I don't know much about american history, but I'm pretty sure JFK was not a doughnut.
Wasn't he a pastry of some kind?

"Ich bein ein Berliner"

"I am a jelly pastry" (or so the urban legend goes)

Originally posted by Almightyjosh


I don't know much about american history, but I'm pretty sure JFK was not a doughnut.
Wasn't he a pastry of some kind?

It was a miss translation. He wanted to say "I am a Berliner" but he accidentally added a word, "ein" or "bein" (I'm not sure which), which turned it into "Jelly Doughnut." BTW: IIRC it was Jelly Doughnut, not just doughnut.

Looking good. I will continue to look for more seals incase their are any better.

Originally posted by disorganizer
We would never be able to travel to the middle of the world then.

I would so prefer the motto:
the will of the people shall be supreme law

which would propably go to:
? populi suprema lex esto
whatever "the will" means maybe we could also have it like
? sprema lex esto
when we winf out what "the public opinion" means

Disorganizer, do you ever read previous posts?

Salus populi suprema lew esto

The will of the people shall be shall be supreme law.

From what I know, 'salus' may translate a few different ways.

Originally posted by Danke
Love the seal! Though it is "Fanatika", not "Fanatica" :)

Though I think our latin motto should be more along the lines of:

Through Chaos comes...more chaos

or maybe

Victory, Death, or a good PI!
hehe thanks for pointing out my mistake :)

How about:

we came, we saw, we conquered

in latin or course

octavian:
i always do

I can give you 'The welfare of the people shall be supreme law.'

Salus populi suprema lex esto

welfare is not will ;-)

now any translations for will to replace welfare=salus?

Do you think that it would be possible for a mod to put the seal and/or flag in a/the corner(s) of the main thread for the civ III demo game 2?

I don't think so... but what about asking TF to make a Demogame II Forum Scheme with 'em??

He's been pumping out the styles lately...

That would be interesting, though, seeing the flag/seal everywhere. Then again, I like this pale blue...

Yeh I like my dark blue style perhaps the flag could be combined with the background somehow.

Originally posted by Falcon02


It was a miss translation. He wanted to say "I am a Berliner" but he accidentally added a word, "ein" or "bein" (I'm not sure which), which turned it into "Jelly Doughnut." BTW: IIRC it was Jelly Doughnut, not just doughnut.
It would be "Jelly Doughnut" to Americans, and just "Doughnut" to British people (like me). Over here, the ones with jelly (or "jam", as right thinking people call it :p) are considered to be the standard doughnut. IIRC what you guys call "doughnuts" we would call "Ring Doughnuts".

Here ends today's off topic lecture in anglo-american cultural differences ;) :D

How about this for a motto?

'Dona Nobis Pacem.'

Latin for: Grant unto us peace.

Sounds good

Originally posted by Eklektikos

It would be "Jelly Doughnut" to Americans, and just "Doughnut" to British people (like me). Over here, the ones with jelly (or "jam", as right thinking people call it :p) are considered to be the standard doughnut. IIRC what you guys call "doughnuts" we would call "Ring Doughnuts".

Here ends today's off topic lecture in anglo-american cultural differences ;) :D

To move this firmly back on topic, I think we need to standardize on the official Fanatika doughnut. I think it should be in the form of what north americans call a crueller (not a ring) and no jelly. However, a glaze is acceptable. To avoid confusion, I think it should be commonly referred to as a "long thin Fanatikan doughnut", or for short, "doughbolt" (alt. spelling: dobolt).

Thank you Octavian for keeping me up at night pondering the doughbolt conundrum.

The dobolt can be featured prominently on our seal (ha, didn't think this would get on topic, didja?) and for our motto:

Dona Nobis Doboltum

For a minute there I thought it was a dis-tasteful reference to the means of his demise.

Originally posted by Falcon02


It was a miss translation. He wanted to say "I am a Berliner" but he accidentally added a word, "ein" or "bein" (I'm not sure which), which turned it into "Jelly Doughnut." BTW: IIRC it was Jelly Doughnut, not just doughnut.

Hey guys it seems we are stalled on the seal. Have we given any thought on it?

Did we ever agree on a National Doughnut?

How about...

Die dulci freure
Have a nice day

Magister mundi sum!
I am the master of the universe!

Sona si latine loqueris
Honk if you speak Latin

Fac ut gaudeam
Make my day

Ut si!
As if!

All of these were taken from an article on H2G2... I don't know any real Latin myself :cool:

We never did standardize the doughnut as the Fanatikan national symbol...

Perhaps, Fionn, you could put one on a seal...

Why don't we make the seal in the shape of a doughnut?

Bavarian creme.... hmmmm...... doughnuts.....

Originally posted by donsig
Why don't we make the seal in the shape of a doughnut?

Bavarian creme.... hmmmm...... doughnuts.....

It is in the shape of a doughnut... It's round isn't?

Lets see: Veni, Vidi, Vici is I came, I saw, I conquered. Not sure what the past tense of an are stem verb would be for "we"..
Lemme check my dictionary...
Venimus, Vidimus, Vicimus.
Thats it. Enjoy (ha! latin DOES pay off!)

Originally posted by Strider

It is in the shape of a doughnut... It's round isn't?

This is true but some may argue that the true shape of a donought is a torus, i.e., it has a hole in it. We need an expert opinion here. What say you, Mr. VP?

Originally posted by Stuck_As_a_Mac
Lets see: Veni, Vidi, Vici is I came, I saw, I conquered. Not sure what the past tense of an are stem verb would be for "we"..
Lemme check my dictionary...
Venimus, Vidimus, Vicimus.
Thats it. Enjoy (ha! latin DOES pay off!)

Some proposed mottos. Perhaps SAaM will translate them into Latin for us. Perhaps we could make that the Penguin's Punishment...

We came, we saw, we polled
We came, we saw, we voted
We proposed, we discussed, we polled
We polled, we argued, we repolled

Here's some:

We came, We conquered, We PIed

Fanatika.... Home of the most confusing Demogame!

Fanatika.... Not Newbie Friendly

We came, We conquered, We re-conquered

Fitting. Make the poor penguin be your bard.. I feel like a Helenic slave... anyway, lemme see what I can do. Just remember: there is no latin word for computer

I don't know how to say "by" in Latin, because I was thinking "Peace by War"

Pax (by) Guerre (ithink that is Latin for war, it might be French.)

lemme see.. by, by means of, so abl. id say by sword, pugna. ablative is Pugna. Pax Pugna- by means of war (the sword)
Also: spent all of latin class working on this one.
Disseruimus, Disputuvimus, Censuimus. We discussed, we debated, we voted.
Also: should I be baned, ill start an OT latin thread. direct all needs there.

im shocked to see this thread gain new life :D

I just realized how old this thread is ^_^;

We came, we saw, we amended the law...

Originally posted by naervod
I don't know how to say "by" in Latin, because I was thinking "Peace by War"

Pax (by) Guerre (ithink that is Latin for war, it might be French.)

It is french. The latin word for war would be, i think, bellum.:die:

But what about: Desiderantes Meliorem Patriam (they desire a better contry…)

Woah... Didnt realize this was from August. Anyway, bellum is hapiness, i think. Use pugna. to fight is pugnare. Also: ill be in OT if you need me durring my ban. (unless two more people are yet to vote)

Originally posted by Stuck_As_a_Mac
Woah... Didnt realize this was from August. Anyway, bellum is hapiness, i think. Use pugna. to fight is pugnare. Also: ill be in OT if you need me durring my ban. (unless two more people are yet to vote)

Euh… I maintain that bellum means war, hostility, like in: "statu quo ante bellum" ( like it was before war). Anyway, my latin classes were 4 years back, so I might be confused.

lemme check..
youre right. I was thinking of bellus, which means beautiful/happiness.

Lets put a great (big) seal on the Great Seal - just so we dont forget what it is for. I dont know if seals eat donoughts, but ....

I found a Latin Quotes site... I just have to find it again. It might be in my browser's history somewhere.