This thread is for posting, and discussing maps of all kinds.
Official, up-to-date maps can be found here. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30426)

Are you interested in making maps for Fanatika? Apply here!
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I want a map of Fanatika and I want it NOW!!
HA, finally found a map Octavian couldn't produce.

Got ya there... I can produce it, just gimme 5 days...

Octavian:
this thread would need to be moved to the rpg-subforum, as all offices go there ;-)
please request this at the mod's

Originally posted by disorganizer
Octavian:
this thread would need to be moved to the rpg-subforum, as all offices go there ;-)
please request this at the mod's

flippin Erisian discordian mischief makers ;)

hail eris! all hail discordia! ;-) now back to topic:

octavian:
we should make bureaus for the specific tasks. like one for the mapmaking and one for maintaining provincial border discussions and proposals. i volunteer for the provincial border bureau. i propose you for the mapmaking bureau. maybe we need one naming bureau too.

mapmaking bureau:
making and updating maps of any kind. also collection of base data for mapmaking (on an international base).

provincial border bureau:
maintain and push forward discussion of provincial borders. open threads and polls for provincial border redesign

landmark naming bureau:
collect names of landmarks from citizens and push forward discussion for names of landmarks. if necessary post polls for landmark names.

Thread moved to RPG subforum. Indexed in the Offices Registry.

Ah. And rename the thread please ;-)

Originally posted by disorganizer
Ah. And rename the thread please ;-)
This request would need to come from Octavian.

Well, its obviously a typo in there :-)
Fanaitka=Fanatika

Originally posted by disorganizer
Well, its obviously a typo in there :-)
Fanaitka=Fanatika
Ah! I thought you wanted it changed to "Mapmaking Bureau". I'll fix the typo right away.

Sorry for the delay. I must ask that this thread be moved back to the Citizen's fourm, as I wished for discussion on maps. The way I understand the CoS, offices dealing with Role Playing be placed in the RPG forum.

As to your 'bureaus', dis, I like that idea only for a seperate thread for provincial threads. When necesary, I will start discussions when needed. Maps can be submitted and discussed here. I will have a mod clean this thread reqularly. As to the landmarks, these are all controlled by governors. We may lobby for them to add names.

So this is both an office and a discussion Octavian?

More a discussion than an office. Maybe even like a group.

Well, in fact thats what an office-thread is for. Discussion on the topic of the office.

I am, of course, maybe for moving ALL offices to another forum as they have nothing to do with the rpg. But this would include a rule-change i guess?

Not only rpg-offices are placed here, but all offices, like chat etc.

@octavian:
i think we maybe have bureaus for the topics and with that people who "care" about the topic, like lobbying the naming of landmarks. we can spawn as many discussion topics from here to the citizen forum anyways. like we need new provincial border->discussion thread for it with link in here.

What I'm saying is that every time we need to discuss a new province and her borders, a new discussion will be started, rather than creating a single thread that's bound to get congested.
Basically, I completely agree with you.

If people feel it approitiate, we could set up a new thread for discussing landmark names. My idea would be that every time a new province if official formed, a new discussion will be started, where citizens may suggest names for landmarks. After the proposals are submitted, we give it to the governor for final approval.
Remember, he controls landmark naming in his province. If he declines to name things, the torch is passed to the CoC.

Let's leave the thread where it currently is. There is current discussion on changing the forum organization. Let's wait until that's done.

octavian: i completely agree to you in all points. the bureaus were not meant to be seperate threads, but maybe designating some parts of the cartographic office work to dedicated members of the office. this would encourage them to concentrate on their speicalized work.

example:
this thread will be the collection point and the base of all cartographic discussion and request. it will as well be a kind of index of the spawned discussions about special topics (like border-redesign).

the 3 bureaus will act as follows:
office head / cartographic bureau:
get requests and initialize drawing or do drawing of the maps himself. some standard maps (like geographical) will be done without request. maps are posted in the coresponding main-forum thread (even the requested special maps should go there for easy searching).
the sense of this bureau is the actual map drawing.

provincial redesign bureau
this bureaus surveyor travels thru the provinces and listens on requests to redesign the borders. he will be responsible for having a thread spawned out of the office for each redesign proposal which comes up. he will also be responsible for putting up the poll and requesting the maps according to the proposal.
the sense of this bureau is to get a continuous discussion on provincial borders going. the small changes to make them look better or fit better to governmental management. all those small things which were discussed in multiple threads in g1 should be brought together here.

lanmark naming bureau
the responsible surveyer will also travel through our nations provinces and will ask the citizens what the names of their landmarks are. he will try to find out every landmarks name for which a name seems appropriate. if needed, he will also spawn discussions on this topic and initiate polls.
normally the governors will give him the names of the landmarks, as they are the ones to name them. if they dont, it will be up to the citizen to choose one.
the main scope of that bureau is to initiate discussion on the names, not to decide themselves. they could also propose names to the governors, for example, for them to decide upon.

Of course, the bureaus will help each other out, for example all could help drawing maps or initiate discussions in other threads. Maybe during the travel of a border-surveyer, some landmark name gets heard by him and so he will tell the landmark-bureau this name to initiate discussion in the appropriate province thread.

I think dis' ideas are very helpful this early in the game to help organize what does and doesn't fall under the cartograqhic office. Some of the bureaus will likely spawn many discussion threads and polls, others will not. But it is a good way to think of how these topics fall out.

I'm very interested in the eventual discussions on landmark naming a province design/redesign

Ok, so am i for the border redesign.

I propose the following:
Octavian: Cartographic Bureau / Main Office
Disorganizer: Border Redesign Bureau
Danke: landmark naming bureau

(or whatever we would call them)

Dear Head of department, what are your thoughts?
We could of course get a endless number of helpers in addition to this. The job of the bureaus would only be to push those topics forward so they dont come to a stop. Any help will still be welcome.

After all, its you decission octavian on how to organize ;-) Anyway i would like to help and push forward the above topic. The bureaus was just an organizational idea ;-)

Personally, I'd like to do a lot of work with border redesign, as I have a few ideas of my own. If you don't mind, I'd like to work on that with you.

Otherwise, I like your plans.

The bureaus just define the people mainly responsible for the job. Of course we will all work together on all topics.
Its just i think we need some people sparkling discussions, as our citizens somehow seem to be a bit static and unvocal on those issues. They sometimes need a push forward to initiate discussion ;-)

Could you change the writing of Mount Victory to Mt. Victory? Will not cover so much space on the map ;-)

I think that'd work... I'll do that in the next map.

it is here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=478287#post478287

i started the first border discussion. maybe we need a quick link from the office to that.

Name a city after my name please LENINGRADO

Sorry, Leningrado. Only those with honors, and elected officials may name cities.

I need the latest map. the one you have in the office doesnt have the settler or the americans. this is needed for border issues.

I'm sorry, but I'm waiting for a longer TC. It didn't make much sense to me to make another map for only 3 turns.

My mapmaking skills may not be on par with Octavian X, but I thought I'd try it out. Not much change from previous maps, but I figured it'd be a good test my cartographic (err, photoshop) skills.

Full Scale (855kB) (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/fanatika-map-1830bc.jpg)
1/2 Scale (217kB) (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/fanatika-map-1830bc_x2.jpg)
1/4 Scale (74kB) (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/fanatika-map-1830bc_x4.jpg)

I hope these are satisfactory.

if you leave out the flag and the minimap, compression will propably be much higher and as such filesize much smaller :-P

Originally posted by disorganizer
if you leave out the flag and the minimap, compression will propably be much higher and as such filesize much smaller :-P

True enough, but I would have only saved about 45kB (~5%) off of the Full Scale image by removing those items.

I'm going to play a bit with the image quality a bit at the different scales. For example, after playing around a bit more with the images, I discovered that I can reduce the Full Scale file size by 1/2 if I reduce the image quality slightly.

Thanks for the feedback. Maybe as Fanatika grows, I'll be able to help Octavian keep up with the demand for maps (if he needs it, of course).

Thank you for volunteering. The Office certainly needs help. Between this, vice presidenting in two democracy games, doing historical stats, and real life, I'm getting kind of busy.

If you could, I'd like to ask you to make maps for me after every Wednesday turn chat. Please look at the format all of my maps are in, and keep your like those.

Also, upload the maps using the file names:
Main map: fanatika-(insertyear).jpg
Thumbnail: thumbnail(insertyear).jpg
where (insertyear) is, for example, 1800bc

I'll be happy to help out. It shouldn't take too long now that I've got Photoshop ready to crank them out. Of course, we haven't started making any borders yet, either...

I've uploaded a new version of the map for your consideration. I hope it's up to COoF standards.

Full Scale Map 1830 (155kB) (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/fanatika-1830bc.jpg)

Wow! The only problem would be I can't beat that! Excellently done! When I get time, I'll put it in the Cartographic Office thread.

Nice map, FortyJ. Very well done. I especially like the added extras.

Here's the map as of Saturday's Turn Chat...

Full Scale Map (199kB) (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/fanatika-1575bc1.jpg)

Map of Fanatika, circa 1575BC

One thing, change the copyright to the Cartographic Office of Fanatika. After you've don that, I'll post these on the main thread.

I made the changes and edited my previous post to include the link to the new version. Let me know if you have any problems.

An excellent map. I will update the main thread tomorrow.

Here's a little something that may help us better plan our military "exercises" near Azteca.

Full Scale Tactical Map (197kB) (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/tactical-1575bc.jpg)

Interesting map. How did you remove the FoW?

Originally posted by Octavian X
Interesting map. How did you remove the FoW?

Thanks. Trade secret.

Just kidding. I just revealed the map (Ctrl-Shift-M). It removes the Fog of War to display all of the terrain. It also removes all of the units, cities, and improvements, so there is some adding back that must be done to create a functional map.

If you look carefully, you'll probably notice that two of the Aztec cities are in areas of the map that have not yet been explored. I went ahead and added these cities after extrapolating their location based on their cultural borders.

All told, it's a little more work than the standard map, but if it helps with the strategic deployment of our forces, all the better.

Forgot about that shortcut.

Here's another one you might need: Press the delete key, and the game interface will disapprear. This is really helpful when the maps get large. This is one I made for the first democracy game: www.civfanatics.net/uploads/phoenatica-1800ad.jpg

Here is the latest map from tonights turn chat
Fanatika 1450BC Map (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/Fanatika_1450BC_Map.jpg)

Another version of same map, circa 1450BC.

Full Scale Map (217kB) (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/fanatika-1450bc1.jpg)

EDIT: Corrected Title Block and fixed link to correct version.

I'm going to be out of a job here soon. Keep up the good work!

hy octavian,

i recommend employing FortyJ as new surveyor. He does great mapmaking work and showed a good hand in the most recent border discussions.
Please appoint him for a position in our office!

Octavian,

At disorganizer's request, I entreat you to find a position in the Cartographic Office of Fanatika for me. I believe that I can better serve Fanatika's interests as an official member of this office.

I believe that you can serve Fanatika better.

I find that I have bitten off more than I can chew. I thought it would be easy being Vice President in both democracy games here at CFC, though it is much harder than I thought.

Therefore, I would like to ask if you wish to head this office. I would remain as a periodic cartographer, making a map here are there. If you wish to head the cartographic office, contact me via pm or this thread.

Thanks.

Octavian, I am both humbled by your confidence in my abilities and excited about the opportunity to lead this office into the next age and beyond.

I accept.

That's great! I will give you the details now.

Tonight, I will ask a moderator to change the current Cartographic Office Thread in the main fourm to be closed. After that, set up a new thread like mine, with posts as follows:

In the first post, place a thumbnail of the current map and link to the full map, as long as a message saying it's not a discussion thread, and link to this office thread.
Use the second post for the archive. If you would, list my old maps in it, along with yours.
The third post needs the city name registry, as I have posted it. Contact those with question marks by their names, for the names they desired. This needs to be updated after each election. Remeber that it always changes when new people enter the CoC, and no one names two cities.
From then on, use the rest of the posts for announcements.


Titile the tread as I did. Remember, do it after my current thread is closed.

Good luck!

I thought I had already mentioned it somewhere, but it wasn't in the thread FortyJ started, so:

If I ever get to name a city, it will be called Padmativa.

:D

Thanks Padma. I tried to get all the names in that first edition, but I obviously missed yours (and maybe some others, too). I'll update the list immediately.

One more thing. Go ahead and put a link the map thread to this thread, with a note telling people to direct discussion here.

"Are you interested in making maps for Fanatika? Apply here!"

like this? :D

no, Spazzy. Wrong thread. The other one is the right one. This says obsolete for a reason.

well I applied in a few threads... hope one of them was the right one

I invite the Nationnal Cartographer to notice the new topographic distinctions that may come up in this thread:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43555

The frigid sea on the north face of our province is now called the "Sea of Shaitan".

The large ocean on our east face is the "Vanirian Ocean".

The tundra region that makes up a large portion of the province is known as "The High North".