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DVS
Jan 06, 2009, 06:57 PM
Ok, here is the checklist of units that we have art for. We need people to skin each of the ones that are listed as "need it".

If you know of any existing units that fit any of those listed as "need it", please let me know.

Artists, please pick any needed unit from the list to work on, and include your creation(s) in the World 2009 mod.


Rebel/Failed State Units

I seem to have lost the list of rebel units we had way back when. Hopefully someone has it or can remember the ones I'm forgetting. Or we can just name all the ones we want now and redo it.


Tamil Tigers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Tigers_of_Tamil_Eelam). Need It.
Taliban (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=140552&d=1161107576): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=189714) thanks BeastMaster
Zapatista (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=118422&d=1141452342): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=161724) thanks Robo Magic Man
: Got it. (]Jihadist[/url) I know I have seen this somewhere but I can't find it. Help!
Janjaweed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janjaweed). Need It.
Farc rebels (http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/colombia_farc-rebels-march-in-la-macarenapreview.jpg). Need It. Maybe the revolutionaries (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/unitlist/pix/Revoluteonary.JPG) from maxrigamod?
Basque Separatists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETA) (ETA). Need It.
Budddist Monks (http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200709/r185637_690888.jpg). Need It.
Somali Pirates (http://www.smokehound.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/pirates.jpg). Got It (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=8945).



[U]Ground Forces

Tanks

Leopard 2 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=122930&d=1144640403): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=166532) thanks snafusmith

M1 Abrams (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/unitlist/pix/abram.JPG): Got it. (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/Units.htm) in maxrigamod (unknown creator) or here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=291197) from GeS.

T-90 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=144973&d=1167246815): Got It (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=198635). Thanks The Conquests

T-72 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=121411&d=1143581445): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=165072) by snafusmith

T-62 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-62): Need It

T-64 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-64): Need It

T-55\T-54: Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=4756129#post4756129) by snafusmith

T-80 (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/unitlist/pix/t80.JPG): Got it. (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/Units.htm) in maxrigamod. Also, the T-84 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=166050). Both by snafusmith

Type 96 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_96): Need It

Type 99 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=128496&d=1149106134): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=172951) by snafusmith

Type 59 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_59): Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=1571)

Merkava Mark I & II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkava): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=291350) by KrugerPritz or by sharick (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=180749)

Challenger 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_2): Need It

Leclerc (http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5952/leclerczv1.png): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=269541) by snafusmith

Leopard 1 (http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=leopard1hm3.png): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=269541) by snafusmith

I thought I remembered seeing a Challenger 2 somewhere, but I can't find it.


APCs

Coming soon.


Air Units


F-35 Lighting II\JCA (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=119763&d=1142454443): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=163277) thanks nautil. There are other copies of this one as well I think. One here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=193309).

F-22 Raptor: Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=169430) thanks The Conquests

Eurofighter Typhoon (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=142711&d=1163943095): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=193370) thanks The Conquests. snafusmith also has one in modern warfare. Also: skins (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=277670).

F A-18E/F Super Hornet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F/A-18_Super_Hornet): Need it. Someone can reskin the regular F A 18 (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/unitlist/pix/f18.JPG) for this one I guess.

F-16 Block 50/52 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138286&d=1158337359): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=169423) thanks The Conquests

Chengdu J-10 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=142717&d=1163944915): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=193371) thanks The Conquests

Panavia Tornado ADV (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=133482&d=1153749749): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=178866&highlight=Panavia+Tornado) from The Conquests. Close enough? His other Tornado unit's thread says it is not animated, I hope this one is. Someone could do us a favor by checking that out.

Sukhoi Su-27 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=120892&d=1143235454): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=164567) thanks The Conquests

Mikoyan MiG-31 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=144446&d=1166390905): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=197025) thanks The Conquests

Dassault Mirage 2000 (http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4867/mirage2000oy1.png): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=257310) from snafusmith or here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=182976) from The Conquests

F-16 Fighting Falcon (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138286&d=1158337359): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=169423) thanks The Conquests

F A-18 Hornet (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/unitlist/pix/f18.JPG): Got it. (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/Units.htm) from Maxrigamod, unknown artist

Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21MF/bis 'Fishbed' (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=121209&d=1143430173): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=164872) thanks nautil. Skins (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=276368&highlight=fishbed).

Shenyang J-8 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_J-8): Need it. Maybe the Chengdu J-10A (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=193371) as placeholder or base for skinning.

Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23 'Flogger' (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=140759&d=1161356062): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=190046&highlight=Mikoyan) thanks The Conquests

F4 Phantom II (http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7263/f4ww9.jpg): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=225947) thanks snafusmith. Also made by The Conquests (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=184810)

Northrop F-5 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=4756129): Got it. thanks snafusmith. 2 versions in his mod, I haven't looked at them yet.

: Got it. (]B-2 Spirit[/url) We can use the default stealth bomber. There may also be better ones out there.

Tupolev Tu-22M (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-22M): Need it.

B-52 Stratofortress (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=120680&d=1143085898): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=164356) thanks snafusmith

Tupolev Tu-95\Tupolev Tu-142 (http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8223/tu95previewbm9.jpg): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=192552) thanks ArdRaeiss

Tupolev Tu-160 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138494&d=1158503543): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=186405&highlight=Tupolev) thanks The Conquests.




Helicopter Gunships


AH-64 Apache (http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9092/ah64apachera8.jpg): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=193352) thanks snafusmith
Eurocopter Tiger (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=175967&d=1209690764): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=273708) thanks The_Coyote. Also: badass reskins (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=275391) thanks bernie14
AH-1 Cobra (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=184043&d=1217171384): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=284782&highlight=cobra) thanks GFO_Anubis (thread also has country specific skins of AH64 and Mi-24 we can use!)
Mil Mi-24 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=120292&d=1142812724): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=163871) thanks nautil
Mil Mi-28 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=184402&d=1217514229): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=285367) thanks GeS



Air Transport Vessel

Hold off on these. We have to figure out how to get the AI to use them before we decide if we are going to include air transport units.

- Lockheed C-130 Hercules
- Airbus A400M
- C-17 Globemaster III
- Lockheed C-5 Galaxy
- Antonov An-124



[U]Naval Units

We need all of these still:

Submarines

SSN

Nuclear attack submarines

- Los Angeles class Got It (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=170227)
- Virginia class
- Trafalgar Class
- Astute class Got it here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7358) or here
- Victor III class
- Akula class Got it here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=170341) or here. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6899)
- Graney
- Rubis class
- Barracuda class
- Type 091
- Type 093


SSBN

Nuclear Ballistic Missile Submarines

- Triomphant class
- Delta IV class
- Borei class
- Ohio class Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=170376)
- Ohio Class (Modified as Guided Missile Submarine)
- Vanguard class
- Type 094
- Advanced Technology Vessel (India)



Destroyers


- Type 45
- Type 42
- MEKO 360
- Udaloy Class
- Kashin class destroyer
- Sovremenny class destroyer
- Kolkata class destroyer
- Delhi class destroyer
- Type 051 destroyer
- Type 052C destroyer
- Horizon class frigate
- Tourville class frigate
- Durand de la Penne class destroyer
- Atago class destroyer
- Takanami class destroyer
- Murasame class destroyer
- Kongō class destroyer
- Asagiri class destroyer
- Hatsuyuki class destroyer
- Chungmugong Yi Sun-sin class destroyer
- King Sejong the Great class destroyer
- Arleigh Burke class destroyer Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=4335)
- Zumwalt class destroyer
- Kidd class destroyer


Frigates

-Halifax class frigate (Canada)
-Minor EU Nations Common Frigate
- Moudge class frigate (Iran)
- Abukuma class destroyer escort (Japan)
- Descubierta class frigate (Spain)
- Álvaro de Bazán class frigate (Spain)
- Ulsan class frigate (South Korea)
- Type 23 frigate (United Kingdom)
- Type 22 frigate (UK)
-1970's UK Frigate (UK)
- 1980's UK Frigate (UK)
- Type 053 frigate (Peoples Republic of China)
- Type 054 frigate (PRC)
- Early 80's MEKO Frigates (West Germany)
- MEKO 200 Frigate (Germany)
- Bremen class frigate (Germany)
- Sachsen class frigate (Germany)
- 1960's Soviet Frigate
- 1970's Soviet Frigate
- Neustrashimy class frigate (USSR\Russian Federation)
- Talwar class frigate (Russia)
- Tartarstan/Gepard class frigate (Russian Federation)
- Oliver Hazard Perry class frigate (USA)
- Knox class frigate (USA)
-Basic early French Frigates
- 1990's French Frigates(France)
- La Fayette class frigate (France & Licence built by Singapore)
- Kortenaer class frigate (Netherlands)
- Karel Doorman class frigate (Netherlands)
- De Zeven Provinciën class frigate (Netherlands)
- Lupo class frigate (Italy)
- Maestrale class frigate (Italy)
- Shivalik class frigate (India)


Carriers

CVN: Multi-purpose Aircraft Carrier (Nuclear-Propulsion)
- Gerald R. Ford class aircraft carrier (United States of America)
- Nimitz class aircraft carrier (USA)
- Enterprise Class Aircraft Carrier (USA)
- Charles de Gaulle Class Aircraft Carrier (France)
- Admiral Kuznetsov class aircraft carrier (USSR\Russian Federation) Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10432)

CV: Multi-purpose Aircraft Carrier
- Kitty Hawk class aircraft carrier (USA) (US)
- Queen Elizabeth class Aircraft Carrier (United Kingdom)
- Invincible class aircraft carrier (UK) Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=192679)
- Centaur class aircraft carrier (UK)
- Vikrant class aircraft carrier (India)
- Clemenceau class Aircraft Carrier (France)
- Kiev class aircraft carrier (USSR)
- Cavour Class Aircraft Carrier (Italy)
- Giuseppe Garibaldi Class Aircraft Carrier (Italy)
- Príncipe de Asturias class Aircraft Carrier (Spain)
- Juan Carlos I class
- Chakri Naruebet class aircraft Carrier (Spain)

Helicopter Carriers:
- Ocean Class (UK)
- Tarawa class amphibious assault ship (USA)
- Wasp class amphibious assault ship (USA)
- America class amphibious assault ship (USA)
- Hyūga class helicopter destroyer (Japan)

Aphibious Transport
-San Antonio class amphibious transport dock (USA)Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7895)

Cruisers
-Kirov Class Cruiser (USSR\Russia)Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=5292)
-Ticonderoga Class Missile Cruiser (USA) Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=170078)

Thanks to remake20 and others for helping find units, and sheep21 for the updated list. :)

Everyone please feel free to pitch in and add to this. I will updated this master list as we find them or build them. I will also keep the original post (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=7562470#post7562470) about this updated, but if you've found this thread you're better off looking here.

ianinsane
Jan 07, 2009, 09:07 AM
We still need a generic terrorist units for terrorist attacks. It probably should look very inconspicuous, like a normal citizen.

sheep21
Jan 07, 2009, 10:35 AM
perhaps a normal worker unit with a backpack on?

DVS
Jan 07, 2009, 06:25 PM
Great call guys, I forgot about the terrorist unit(s).

ianinsane
Jan 08, 2009, 03:43 AM
Ummm....can't we use the buddhist missionary unit as buddhist monks? :)

DVS
Jan 08, 2009, 03:59 AM
I suppose. But I was thinking they'd look more like these guys:

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200709/r185637_690888.jpg

sandman730
Jan 10, 2009, 04:09 PM
Do we have the art for the UBs?

DVS
Jan 10, 2009, 04:39 PM
Art for the 48 unique buildings? No not yet.

sandman730
Jan 10, 2009, 04:45 PM
How about the UUs?

DVS
Jan 10, 2009, 06:28 PM
You mean the unique units that you are coming up with? We have to get the list ready before we can start on art.

Here's how we're doing things, whether it is unique buildings, unique units, or just the standard units that are listed in this thread:

1- get a list of all the units/buildings we want to include.
2- add the xml for them to the game with placeholders.
3- create a checklist (like above) so artists can see what needs to be done.


It is unlikely that we will have 100% original art for each of the 48 UUs and UBs by the time we release version 1.0. I think our goal should be to have art for about 20 of each for version 1.0, and good placeholders for the rest. Once we have a working mod more and more artists will be interested in creating stuff for it.

Bahmo
Jan 11, 2009, 04:04 PM
Alright, hold a bit of this off. I'm going to try to stay as apolitical as possible when I say this, but you simply cannot lump all the rebel forces in the world together. They have different objectives, and as such, cannot all be placed into the label of barbarians who have declared war on all civilizations. It may be the best idea to create several "barbarian" civs and make different true civilizations at peace with them at the start, but we've already got a dangerously high player count as it is.

DVS
Jan 11, 2009, 05:34 PM
This is just the art thread!

When it comes down it, the failed states (barbarians) only fight neighboring civs. We don't have room to make another 5-10 barbarian civilizations so we can have more realistic rebels.

But if you have any specific suggestions as to what we should change, feel free to make them.

ianinsane
Jan 16, 2009, 12:45 PM
Subs:
Los Angeles Class Submarine (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=170227)
Ohio Class Sub (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=170376)
Akula Class (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=170341)
Astute Class from Varietas delectat (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7358)

Destroyers:
Udaloy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=122856)

ianinsane
Jan 16, 2009, 12:54 PM
Type 42 destroyer (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=85445)

DVS
Jan 16, 2009, 01:02 PM
Sweet buddy, thanks a ton.

ianinsane
Jan 16, 2009, 02:58 PM
damn...the destroyers are for civ 3...didn't see that

Bahmo
Jan 16, 2009, 03:42 PM
This is just the art thread!

When it comes down it, the failed states (barbarians) only fight neighboring civs. We don't have room to make another 5-10 barbarian civilizations so we can have more realistic rebels.

But if you have any specific suggestions as to what we should change, feel free to make them.

You could remove some of the rebels and replace some of their actions with events. That might be more favorable for places such as Chiapas and Tibet, because they haven't really ground their countries to a standstill the way some of the really cruel militants in the Middle East and Africa have; they're fighting for political goals, not based on intolerance. Thus, events could spring up saying "They're making such and such a demand" and you have to choose an option such as "Do nothing" (rebels will pillage improvements/city buildings), "crackdown" (requires certain number of troops) "address some grievances by paying" (requires certain amount of cash) and "agree to their demands" (change to certain civic or something). I don't know how to code the game's events, but that would be a simple and realistic way to do things.

Alternately, if you can't make five barbarian civs, maybe just two, "leftist rebels" and "rightist rebels," and again start certain leaders at peace with one of them.

DVS
Jan 17, 2009, 08:24 AM
damn...the destroyers are for civ 3...didn't see that

Yeah that stinks, I didn't notice either. The rest are great though. Keep them coming if possible!

For anyone else who wants to help find units, the best place to start looking has got to be here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=cat&id=50). If you can't find a unit with the exact same name, one that looks similar is fine. We can always change names and strengths, what we need is the 3d art. I've tried to include links to pictures of all the units we need to help you guys. (Sorry, haven't had the time to find pics of naval units yet)

You can also look through full modpacks (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=cat&id=2), many of these have units (as well as buildings/leaderheads) that can't be found elsewhere, that we may be able to use.

DVS
Jan 17, 2009, 08:27 AM
they're fighting for political goals, not based on intolerance.

Everyone is fighting for political goals, most are based on intolerance. Obviously I agree that there are vast differences between different groups/causes. Good idea to have at very least left wing/right wing rebels. Maybe we could have what rebels you are at war with change when you change ideologies/civics. This would clearly require some coding we won't be able to get done for some time though, as we already have a backlog in that department.

We'll leave it as is for now, and play around with it once we get everything else done and start testing.

DVS
Jan 17, 2009, 08:56 AM
Updated with frigates and carriers. Thanks sheep21 for the info.

Obviously we are not going to have unique art for every one of these any time soon, but let's find as much art for modern units as we possibly can.

ianinsane
Jan 17, 2009, 10:35 AM
Admiral Kuznetsov carrier (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10432)

ianinsane
Jan 17, 2009, 12:31 PM
And I found a modern pirate boat. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=8945)

Bahmo
Jan 17, 2009, 06:18 PM
This is cheesy, but I demand that the modern pirate boat have the classic skull-and-bones flag directly on the unit graphic. Should be easy enough to do, though. Meanwhile, maybe some onboard troopers to man the guns would also be cool.

sheep21
Jan 18, 2009, 12:51 PM
fine by me, abit of humour never hurt anyone!

DVS
Jan 18, 2009, 03:01 PM
Fine by me to, go for it.

sheep21
Jan 20, 2009, 05:50 PM
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10746

source for Ohio Class and Los Angeles Class submarines.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10436
source for tomahawk missiles (if we decide to add em)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10386
different skins for spies of different cultures (might be useful?)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7895
San Antonio class amphibious transport dock (can be used as generic amphib transport model?)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6899
Akula class submarine

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=5292
Kirov Class cruiser

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=4335
Arleigh Burke class destroyer (or as a filler unit for other modern DD's?)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=3522
generic modern submarine (stopgap unit)

DVS
Jan 20, 2009, 06:25 PM
Good stuff, thanks Sheep21. (and ianinsane of course)

And we have to have missiles, right?!

DVS
Jan 20, 2009, 06:27 PM
Those spies are cool!

Edit: never mind...

I'll add them all. :)

DVS
Jan 20, 2009, 06:30 PM
I'll update the fist post tonight with the units you guys have found.

sheep21
Jan 20, 2009, 08:02 PM
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=192679

a model for Invincible class aircraft carrier in this mod

remake20
Jan 21, 2009, 04:06 PM
Never mind

sheep21
Jan 21, 2009, 06:10 PM
whats up remake?

remake20
Jan 22, 2009, 02:55 PM
whats up remake?

What do you mean?

remake20
Jan 22, 2009, 04:02 PM
Could we use this as something?

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=11601

sheep21
Jan 22, 2009, 05:14 PM
What do you mean?

just your message "never mind." Just wandering if there was anything wrong. :) Nowt malicious mate

RE: the link you posted.

Thats a great looking model, but I dont think it matches anything modern in design, either MBT, AFV or APC. Nice find though, someone put alot of work into that baby :p

remake20
Jan 22, 2009, 06:54 PM
I found that one and miss read one of the models we needed for that one.

remake20
Jan 22, 2009, 07:09 PM
Maxriga has 2 submarines in his mod that we need (The LA and Akula)

Refar
Jan 23, 2009, 04:23 AM
Not sure on the status here, maybe you already foud them, but in case not... I had made Akula (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6899) and Astute (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=8819) submarines a while ago.

sheep21
Jan 23, 2009, 08:45 AM
thanks Refar, just waiting for DVS to go through the list and update with the additions.

remake20
Jan 23, 2009, 08:53 AM
Not sure on the status here, maybe you already foud them, but in case not... I had made Akula (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6899) and Astute (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=8819) submarines a while ago.

I searched the database for "Akula", but nothing showed up.

sheep21
Jan 23, 2009, 10:38 AM
I just went through the 22 pages of unit downloads, amazingly little for our time period was too be found.

I really like your astute and akula Refar. Would you like to make any more Submarines or Naval Vessels? It would be great to have you onboard!

sheep21
Jan 23, 2009, 10:49 AM
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=225447
Lockheed C-130 Hercules

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=125826&d=1146941164
Ticonderoga Class Missile Cruiser

remake20
Jan 23, 2009, 01:21 PM
Type 59 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=1571)...

remake20
Jan 23, 2009, 01:23 PM
SSN Submarine (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=4735)

sheep21
Jan 23, 2009, 02:08 PM
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=151874

might prove useful as stopgap AFV?

remake20
Jan 23, 2009, 02:13 PM
Here is the entire NATO Airforce that we could base models off of.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=275259

sheep21
Jan 23, 2009, 02:19 PM
Here is the entire NATO Airforce that we could base models off of.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=275259

all civ3 units im afraid! Wish it were possibly to port them.

remake20
Jan 23, 2009, 02:37 PM
all civ3 units im afraid! Wish it were possibly to port them.

I knew that I was saying we would know more of what a 3-D model would look like for Art. They look SO cool.

@Sheep - You posted in the units request thread with the same thing I posted just before.

remake20
Jan 23, 2009, 02:39 PM
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=151874

might prove useful as stopgap AFV?

America's funniest home videos:D

sheep21
Jan 23, 2009, 03:07 PM
Ok, here is the checklist of units that we have art for. We need people to skin each of the ones that are listed as "need it".

If you know of any existing units that fit any of those listed as "need it", please let me know.

Artists, please pick any needed unit from the list to work on, and include your creation(s) in the World 2009 mod.


Rebel/Failed State Units

I seem to have lost the list of rebel units we had way back when. Hopefully someone has it or can remember the ones I'm forgetting. Or we can just name all the ones we want now and redo it.


Tamil Tigers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Tigers_of_Tamil_Eelam). Need It.
Taliban (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=140552&d=1161107576): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=189714) thanks BeastMaster
Zapatista (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=118422&d=1141452342): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=161724) thanks Robo Magic Man
: Got it. (]Jihadist[/url) I know I have seen this somewhere but I can't find it. Help!
Janjaweed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janjaweed). Need It.
Farc rebels (http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/colombia_farc-rebels-march-in-la-macarenapreview.jpg). Need It. Maybe the revolutionaries (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/unitlist/pix/Revoluteonary.JPG) from maxrigamod?
Basque Separatists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETA) (ETA). Need It.
Budddist Monks (http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200709/r185637_690888.jpg). Need It.
Somali Pirates (http://www.smokehound.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/pirates.jpg). Need It. Naval unit. (Did these guys start making news just to make our mod cooler?)

Pirate Boat Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=8945)

[U]Ground Forces

Tanks

Leopard 2 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=122930&d=1144640403): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=166532) thanks snafusmith

M1 Abrams (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/unitlist/pix/abram.JPG): Got it. (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/Units.htm) in maxrigamod (unknown creator) or here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=291197) from GeS.

T-90 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=144973&d=1167246815): Got It (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=198635). Thanks The Conquests

T-72 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=121411&d=1143581445): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=165072) by snafusmith

T-62 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-62): Need It

T-64 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-64): Need It

T-55\T-54: Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=4756129#post4756129) by snafusmith

T-80 (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/unitlist/pix/t80.JPG): Got it. (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/Units.htm) in maxrigamod. Also, the T-84 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=166050). Both by snafusmith

Type 96 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_96): Need It

Type 99 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=128496&d=1149106134): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=172951) by snafusmith

Type 59 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_59): Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=1571)

Merkava Mark I & II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkava): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=291350) by KrugerPritz or by sharick (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=180749)

Challenger 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_2): Need It

Leclerc (http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5952/leclerczv1.png): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=269541) by snafusmith

Leopard 1 (http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=leopard1hm3.png): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=269541) by snafusmith

I thought I remembered seeing a Challenger 2 somewhere, but I can't find it.


APCs

Coming soon.


Air Units


F-35 Lighting II\JCA (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=119763&d=1142454443): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=163277) thanks nautil. There are other copies of this one as well I think. One here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=193309).

F-22 Raptor: Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=169430) thanks The Conquests

Eurofighter Typhoon (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=142711&d=1163943095): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=193370) thanks The Conquests. snafusmith also has one in modern warfare. Also: skins (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=277670).

F A-18E/F Super Hornet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F/A-18_Super_Hornet): Need it. Someone can reskin the regular F A 18 (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/unitlist/pix/f18.JPG) for this one I guess.

F-16 Block 50/52 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138286&d=1158337359): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=169423) thanks The Conquests

Chengdu J-10 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=142717&d=1163944915): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=193371) thanks The Conquests

Panavia Tornado ADV (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=133482&d=1153749749): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=178866&highlight=Panavia+Tornado) from The Conquests. Close enough? His other Tornado unit's thread says it is not animated, I hope this one is. Someone could do us a favor by checking that out.

Sukhoi Su-27 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=120892&d=1143235454): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=164567) thanks The Conquests

Mikoyan MiG-31 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=144446&d=1166390905): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=197025) thanks The Conquests

Dassault Mirage 2000 (http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4867/mirage2000oy1.png): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=257310) from snafusmith or here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=182976) from The Conquests

F-16 Fighting Falcon (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138286&d=1158337359): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=169423) thanks The Conquests

F A-18 Hornet (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/unitlist/pix/f18.JPG): Got it. (http://maxriga.civfanatics.ru/Units.htm) from Maxrigamod, unknown artist

Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21MF/bis 'Fishbed' (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=121209&d=1143430173): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=164872) thanks nautil. Skins (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=276368&highlight=fishbed).

Shenyang J-8 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_J-8): Need it. Maybe the Chengdu J-10A (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=193371) as placeholder or base for skinning.

Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23 'Flogger' (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=140759&d=1161356062): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=190046&highlight=Mikoyan) thanks The Conquests

F4 Phantom II (http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7263/f4ww9.jpg): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=225947) thanks snafusmith. Also made by The Conquests (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=184810)

Northrop F-5 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=4756129): Got it. thanks snafusmith. 2 versions in his mod, I haven't looked at them yet.

: Got it. (]B-2 Spirit[/url) We can use the default stealth bomber. There may also be better ones out there.

Tupolev Tu-22M (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-22M): Need it.

B-52 Stratofortress (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=120680&d=1143085898): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=164356) thanks snafusmith

Tupolev Tu-95\Tupolev Tu-142 (http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8223/tu95previewbm9.jpg): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=192552) thanks ArdRaeiss

Tupolev Tu-160 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138494&d=1158503543): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=186405&highlight=Tupolev) thanks The Conquests.




Helicopter Gunships


AH-64 Apache (http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9092/ah64apachera8.jpg): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=193352) thanks snafusmith
Eurocopter Tiger (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=175967&d=1209690764): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=273708) thanks The_Coyote. Also: badass reskins (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=275391) thanks bernie14
AH-1 Cobra (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=184043&d=1217171384): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=284782&highlight=cobra) thanks GFO_Anubis (thread also has country specific skins of AH64 and Mi-24 we can use!)
Mil Mi-24 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=120292&d=1142812724): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=163871) thanks nautil
Mil Mi-28 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=184402&d=1217514229): Got it. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=285367) thanks GeS



Air Transport Vessel

Hold off on these. We have to figure out how to get the AI to use them before we decide if we are going to include air transport units.

- Lockheed C-130 Hercules
- Airbus A400M
- C-17 Globemaster III
- Lockheed C-5 Galaxy
- Antonov An-124



[U]Naval Units

We need all of these still:

Submarines

SSN

Nuclear attack submarines

- Los Angeles class Got It (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=170227)
- Virginia class
- Trafalgar Class
- Astute class Got it here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7358) or here
- Victor III class
- Akula class Got it here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=170341) or here. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6899)
- Graney
- Rubis class
- Barracuda class
- Type 091
- Type 093


SSBN

Nuclear Ballistic Missile Submarines

- Triomphant class
- Delta IV class
- Borei class
- Ohio class Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=170376)
- Ohio Class (Modified as Guided Missile Submarine)
- Vanguard class
- Type 094
- Advanced Technology Vessel (India)



Destroyers


- Type 45
- Type 42
- MEKO 360
- Udaloy Class
- Kashin class destroyer
- Sovremenny class destroyer
- Kolkata class destroyer
- Delhi class destroyer
- Type 051 destroyer
- Type 052C destroyer
- Horizon class frigate
- Tourville class frigate
- Durand de la Penne class destroyer
- Atago class destroyer
- Takanami class destroyer
- Murasame class destroyer
- Kongō class destroyer
- Asagiri class destroyer
- Hatsuyuki class destroyer
- Chungmugong Yi Sun-sin class destroyer
- King Sejong the Great class destroyer
- Arleigh Burke class destroyer Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=4335)
- Zumwalt class destroyer
- Kidd class destroyer


Frigates

-Halifax class frigate (Canada)
-Minor EU Nations Common Frigate
- Moudge class frigate (Iran)
- Abukuma class destroyer escort (Japan)
- Descubierta class frigate (Spain)
- Álvaro de Bazán class frigate (Spain)
- Ulsan class frigate (South Korea)
- Type 23 frigate (United Kingdom)
- Type 22 frigate (UK)
-1970's UK Frigate (UK)
- 1980's UK Frigate (UK)
- Type 053 frigate (Peoples Republic of China)
- Type 054 frigate (PRC)
- Early 80's MEKO Frigates (West Germany)
- MEKO 200 Frigate (Germany)
- Bremen class frigate (Germany)
- Sachsen class frigate (Germany)
- 1960's Soviet Frigate
- 1970's Soviet Frigate
- Neustrashimy class frigate (USSR\Russian Federation)
- Talwar class frigate (Russia)
- Tartarstan/Gepard class frigate (Russian Federation)
- Oliver Hazard Perry class frigate (USA)
- Knox class frigate (USA)
-Basic early French Frigates
- 1990's French Frigates(France)
- La Fayette class frigate (France & Licence built by Singapore)
- Kortenaer class frigate (Netherlands)
- Karel Doorman class frigate (Netherlands)
- De Zeven Provinciën class frigate (Netherlands)
- Lupo class frigate (Italy)
- Maestrale class frigate (Italy)
- Shivalik class frigate (India)


Carriers

CVN: Multi-purpose Aircraft Carrier (Nuclear-Propulsion)
- Gerald R. Ford class aircraft carrier (United States of America)
- Nimitz class aircraft carrier (USA)
- Enterprise Class Aircraft Carrier (USA)
- Charles de Gaulle Class Aircraft Carrier (France)
- Admiral Kuznetsov class aircraft carrier (USSR\Russian Federation) Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10432)

CV: Multi-purpose Aircraft Carrier
- Kitty Hawk class aircraft carrier (USA) (US)
- Queen Elizabeth class Aircraft Carrier (United Kingdom)
- Invincible class aircraft carrier (UK) Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=192679)
- Centaur class aircraft carrier (UK)
- Vikrant class aircraft carrier (India)
- Clemenceau class Aircraft Carrier (France)
- Kiev class aircraft carrier (USSR)
- Cavour Class Aircraft Carrier (Italy)
- Giuseppe Garibaldi Class Aircraft Carrier (Italy)
- Príncipe de Asturias class Aircraft Carrier (Spain)
- Juan Carlos I class
- Chakri Naruebet class aircraft Carrier (Spain)

Helicopter Carriers:
- Ocean Class (UK)
- Tarawa class amphibious assault ship (USA)
- Wasp class amphibious assault ship (USA)
- America class amphibious assault ship (USA)
- Hyūga class helicopter destroyer (Japan)

Aphibious Transport
-San Antonio class amphibious transport dock (USA)Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7895)

Cruisers
-Kirov Class Cruiser (USSR\Russia)Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=5292)
-Ticonderoga Class Missile Cruiser (USA) Got it (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=170078)


Everyone please feel free to pitch in and add to this. I will updated this master list as we find them or build them. I will also keep the original post (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=7562470#post7562470) about this updated, but if you've found this thread you're better off looking here.[/QUOTE]


an updated list of what we have got as per requested DVS.

DVS
Jan 23, 2009, 04:14 PM
Thanks sheep21, I've updated the first post. I added the modern pirate boat as the Somali Pirates.

DVS
Jan 23, 2009, 04:42 PM
Also the Vanguard class SSBN is one of the few units that is already actually in our mod, it came with the nuke mod along with a bunch of fancy nukes. So there's one more ticked off our list.

Sorry Southpark fans, no snukes. ;-)

sheep21
Jan 23, 2009, 05:21 PM
awesomeness, Vanguard, YAY!

DVS
Jan 23, 2009, 08:57 PM
Sheep21, I think we're in business. We can use most of the models you found and that we were discussing over yahoo. As you said, it is basically a matter of lowering textures and/or polygons, and then exporting them with the civ4 3dsmax plugin.

Important related 3ds max info threads:

here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=184327).
here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=163585).
here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=165689).


Bad news: we have to wait and see how good they will look. No one get your hopes up looking at the existing models. Plus it is going to take a lot of learning (unless new experienced artists join our team), and work to do this.

Good news: there appears to be no limit to the number of models out there for us to use and reskin.

Frigates (http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Index.cfm?FuseAction=ProcessSmartSearch&istSearchKey=frigate&x=19&y=7).
Destroyers (http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Index.cfm?FuseAction=ProcessSmartSearch&istSearchKey=Destroyer&x=8&y=4).
Battleships (http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Index.cfm?FuseAction=ProcessSmartSearch&istSearchKey=Battleships&x=23&y=6).
Missile Cruisers (http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Index.cfm?FuseAction=ProcessSmartSearch&istSearchKey=Missile+Cruiser&x=24&y=3).
Carriers (http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Index.cfm?FuseAction=ProcessSmartSearch&istSearchKey=Carrier&x=0&y=0).
Helicopter Carriers (http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Index.cfm?FuseAction=ProcessSmartSearch&istSearchKey=Helicopter+Carrier&x=27&y=13).
APCs (http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Index.cfm?FuseAction=ProcessSmartSearch&istSearchKey=APC&x=9&y=7).

Full US navy strike force (http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-model-carrier-battle-group/258421).

...just one site (the best one apparently).

Edit: ok crap, the ones on that site cost a lot of money. Well anyway, there are other sites that have free ones (http://artist-3d.com/free_3d_models/08military_weapons.php), as you found. We'll have to find as many good free ones as we can. For example on that site you sent me, I found a number of free Frigates. More free models here (http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/3D-Models/Free).

DVS
Jan 23, 2009, 08:59 PM
Everyone keep in mind, the priority is still finding as many existing Civ4 units we can.

After we finish doing that as best as we can, we should start looking for 3d models we can use to create new units. We can probably find a different model for every unit we have.

DVS
Jan 23, 2009, 10:39 PM
More links to free 3d models (http://forums.civfanatics.com/search.php?searchid=795411)

remake20
Jan 24, 2009, 10:15 AM
free 3d models (http://forums.civfanatics.com/search.php?searchid=795411)

Invalid Link

DVS
Jan 28, 2009, 08:03 PM
Here's some stuff Sea_Of_Japan posted in another thread:

I find some links.

Japan modern tank)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=11652

Multipurpose Frigate)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=11623

US Modern Soldiers Pack)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=11467

B-52 Stratofortress]
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=11390

Russian Specnaz Pack]
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=11366

F-15]
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=11181

T-80 Skins]
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=11081

F16 Skins]
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10101


Modern Frigate! Yay!

DVS
Jan 30, 2009, 03:11 PM
KrugerPritz, your Palestinian/Saudi Arabian infantry (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=286710) is also perfect for us!

You have done so much stuff we can use, thanks again.

RPG
Feb 16, 2009, 06:07 PM
I was looking at your list of units & noticed that you need the Tu-22M. I know that can be found in Wolf's mod.

ianinsane
Feb 21, 2009, 08:15 AM
Have you seen Kruger Pritz' new excellent set of Mechanic Infantries (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=11767)?
It contains:
Japanese Type 89
Italian Dardo
German marder
Argentinian Tam Vctp
French Amx10P
British Warrior
Spanish Pizzaro

I_am_sin7
Mar 22, 2009, 12:24 PM
The zumwalt is the default stealth destroyer. so tick that off

ianinsane
Sep 04, 2009, 03:54 AM
Someone needs to manage that list of DVS' first post to keep track with our new art discoveries.
I stumbled upon possible art for Basque Seperatists (ETA) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=12262) (last one on that page)

Then I guess we won't need art for Tamil Tigers anymore...

NikNaks
Sep 06, 2009, 09:56 AM
Can anyone compile all of this artwork into sets for each civ? I don't know anywhere near enough about the units to be able to do it, and Matty's too busy with the rest of the mod, so I'm hoping someone else with more knowledge could do so. I would suggest the groupings be made as such:

- USA + Canada
- Mexico
- South America
- UK
- Western Europe
- Russia + Former Soviet States
- East Asia
- Middle East
- North Africa
- Central Africa
- South Africa
- Australia
- any other countries that don't fit into these categories

Obviously, I know next to nothing about the military, so those groupings are probably horrifically wrong, but you get the idea.

Each of those groupings needs a unit for each of these categories:

Tanks/Armor
- 1st Gen
- 2nd Gen
- 3rd Gen

Fighters
- 2nd Gen
- 3rd Gen
- 4th Gen
- 5th Gen

Attack Helicopters
- Cold War
- Modern

IFV
- Cold War
- Modern

SAM
Artillery
Mobile Artillery
Foot soldier

Would anyone like to do this? It'd be a real help, and would speed up the next stage of development considerably.

Bahmo
Jan 08, 2010, 07:26 PM
I've got a long job ahead!

Healz
Dec 31, 2010, 09:10 PM
There is a Chinese Stealthbomber project I have seen. I'm not at home at the moment but I would be able to find it when I get back home. I will upload the picture but it looks a lot like the B-2 Bomber. Given the way the Chinese seem to be copying military technology this look-alike for the American B-2 doesn't look so out of place...