View Full Version : Demogame Webpage Updates & Suggestions!


Chieftess
Aug 25, 2002, 12:19 AM
Yes, we have a webpage, and it's being updated. (I really think this should be in the main forum).

I have created an 'intro' page on what will soon be the main access page: http://www.civfanatics.net/~demogame/civ3. The page is under construction at the moment, but will contain links to the current progress of the page. Currently, the structure of the page is coming into place, and Fionn is creating the site navigation.

After giving it some thought, I decided on 3 sections versus 4 (top row, followed by a 2nd row with 3 columns) due to space and athestics (size mainly). The e-registry and province scripts will be the next to go up.

The origanal page discussion can be found here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24142).

Current members of the Web Page Team

Webmaster - Chieftess
Demogame RPG Webmaster - Stuck_As_A_Mac
Graphics & Menus - Fionn
CGI/Perl - Pulveriser
Map Maintnence - BCLG100
Assistant Webpage Helper - Shaitan

Homie
Aug 25, 2002, 07:32 AM
Just posted to subscribe to the new thread. :)

Almightyjosh
Aug 25, 2002, 07:39 AM
Sooo many people dont know about the 'receive updates to this thread' button down the bottom of the page. >sigh<

Anyway, this is a good idea. I will show my own ignorance now by asking if the last demogame (I know, don't mention the war) had a web page?

Chieftess
Aug 25, 2002, 08:04 AM
It was in the works during the last demogame. :)

Homie
Aug 25, 2002, 01:57 PM
"Sooo many people dont know about the 'receive updates to this thread' button down the bottom of the page"

Well, now I do. Thx ;)

disorganizer
Aug 26, 2002, 08:31 AM
the only problem is that you get a email for every post :-( i would prefer it being handled like the subforum-updates so it would only be shown in the user-cp.

Chieftess
Aug 26, 2002, 09:06 AM
Subforum updates? ;)

Anway, an update! :D

The user and province/city database structures are being forumulated. So far, it looks like this: (note my first attempt at the code tag. ;))

Database with examples


---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
User


Name Password User ID City ID

Chiefpaco Persian10 1 1
Strider IDApage 2 1
Disorganizer moreparks 3 1

City
Name City ID Improvement List (array) City Map

Berlin 1 Temple, granary... P1_B.jpg
CSX 2 Temple P1_CSX.jpg


Province
Name Province ID Territory Map Political Map
P1 1 P1_t.jpg P1_p.jpg


This is just the sample fields and data for the database. Of course, it will mostly likely need to be normalized (shudder). Any suggestions are welcome. :)

Chieftess
Aug 26, 2002, 10:56 PM
Just a warning, some posts of this thread might wind up as a 'testing zone'. ;) (for a possible feature of the page where governors could update from there.)

Might be the next few posts...

Chieftess
Aug 26, 2002, 10:59 PM
This should go into the Demogame II website updates/suggestions thread. (testing for possible webpage use)

chiefpaco
Aug 26, 2002, 11:02 PM
Testing. 1 2 4

gunning1
Aug 26, 2002, 11:03 PM
Testing. Does it work?

Chieftess
Aug 26, 2002, 11:05 PM
SCORE!!!!

(ok, got a little carried away). That was the new website feature in action. It will be moved and tweaked for use in turn chat instructions (might be more 'invisible' by then).

Of course, I'll have to ask permission from Thunderfall, since he tweaked that part of the code. ;)

BCLG100
Aug 27, 2002, 03:23 AM
at first glance i said is that it then i noticed the links and the under construction lol i think we might need to change the map of the phonetican thing as it is a bit out of date but other than that looks good

Chieftess
Aug 27, 2002, 07:13 AM
Didn't you read that it's a placeholder? ;)

Besides, that's one huge image. I just stuck it there since the new game hasn't started yet. We don't have any screen shots.

BCLG100
Aug 27, 2002, 03:54 PM
next question whats CGI?

Chieftess
Aug 27, 2002, 09:54 PM
It's another form of a web-based scripting language.

Update!

The placeholder files are starting to be put in place. So far, the pages for the "Home" section has been added.

Chieftess
Aug 27, 2002, 10:07 PM
Update

The Forum and Indicies info placeholder pages have been added.

Chieftess
Aug 27, 2002, 10:50 PM
Update

Placeholder pages are about 50% complete. The Government section is now complete. This will hold the lastest discussions, or links to discussions/polls held by that official.

BCLG100
Aug 29, 2002, 03:36 PM
is the webpage gonna have a mini forum?

Chieftess
Aug 29, 2002, 05:15 PM
There could be a mini-guestbook-type forum so governors/departments can post their turn chat instructions. (as sort of a log), and for the Demogame RPG announcements...

But, I may have one as a 'suggestion-box'.

BCLG100
Aug 29, 2002, 05:29 PM
if you have a suggestion box you might just get tonnes of spamm posts like "improve the site" or "do more stuff on RA2"

Danke
Aug 29, 2002, 06:42 PM
Or, you know, stuff like "you should implement a three-tier xml-based personalization engine"

BCLG100
Aug 30, 2002, 04:52 AM
but chieftess would understand that just no-one else would :)

Chieftess
Aug 30, 2002, 12:55 PM
That's the plan. ;) (but a bit more simplified..)

So, what will it be? Civ Beige? Persian Blue? British Orange? :D

But, there's only 20 megs per demogame (civ2 and 3) to work with. :) And up to 15 are city screenshots.

In the last demogame, we had about 50+. at 100k, it's 5 megs. In huge maps, we could possibly double that, even triple if we're warmongering. Then there's other images that will go up - maps, flags, game stats, and some images from the previous demogame.

BCLG100
Aug 30, 2002, 04:25 PM
well we could beg Tf for some more space

disorganizer
Aug 31, 2002, 02:39 PM
Or upload the files on cfc-upload feature and use a link on the webpage to them :-)

Chieftess
Aug 31, 2002, 08:51 PM
That's the other part of the plan! ;)

Update!

I have found a free MySQL server!!!! http://freesql.org/

This will be used for the user info, demogame RPG, and province/city info.

Chieftess
Aug 31, 2002, 08:52 PM
And the plans are still being planned! :D

Chieftess
Aug 31, 2002, 10:16 PM
Update

The database is being formulated:

Demouser: ID | Name | Password | City_ID (Foreign Key to City) | Access_Lvl | RPG_ID (foriegn key - can be null) | Color_Scheme (possible)

RPGUser: RPGID | Gold | (more info to come if Strider-and-gang have anymore to add)

City: City_ID | Name | Improvement_List | Image_URL

Province: Prov_ID | Name | City_ID | Image_URL

gonzo_for_civ
Sep 02, 2002, 01:11 AM
Just found this upon reference to it in a chat i had with Fionn! Looks like you are doing a great job! And believe me, I've been a webmaster for some years now and yours is shaping up to be a fine site. Just make sure you don't get too carried away with graphics(although you could always blame that on Fionn if you do ;))

If you need anything for the website ever just send a pm, I know HTML, JavaScript, some PERL, .asp, and I'm learning all about databases recently. If you ever have an emergency or just need something feel free to ask :D

disorganizer
Sep 02, 2002, 03:08 AM
Maybe add a "link to thread" to city and province?
This could be maintained directly by the mayor/governor.
Also maybe memofields would be nice.

Shouldnt be all registry info in the database for a user? then we would easily get the e-registry out of that and also make the census work easier.

Also, maybe 3 or even more pictures of the city will be needed:
city view, city detail and a city vincinity map

BCLG100
Sep 02, 2002, 04:44 AM
also we could have a wondrs tyle page where it says what wonders we have what wonders we dont and which ones we are aiming for

disorganizer
Sep 02, 2002, 05:40 AM
is there a working prototype of our page we can "play" with? i dont mean the static demoversion ;-)

Chieftess
Sep 05, 2002, 08:19 AM
Guess what dis?

Another Update!!!

See the latest prototype (http://www.civfanatics.net/~demogame/civ3/)!!! It's near the bottom of the page. I can make a temporary working prototype. :)

disorganizer
Sep 05, 2002, 08:31 AM
Would be a good idea. Give us a prototype fully functional, but with dummy data maybe. Just to get the look and feel for improovements ;-)

Chieftess
Sep 05, 2002, 08:42 AM
I can't do the menus yet, but I can put sample data as an image. The image is reduced size BTW.

disorganizer
Sep 05, 2002, 08:44 AM
With a prototype i meant something to "click and feel" ;-)
I will wait for the real prototype...

FionnMcCumhall
Sep 05, 2002, 02:36 PM
im working on it. Patience young one :) cant rush greatness hehe

BCLG100
Sep 05, 2002, 02:39 PM
yeh thats what i thought a prototype meant not to sure how your gonna feel it though dis ;)

Chieftess
Sep 07, 2002, 04:29 PM
You want a prototype? Then you have another Update!

http://www.civfanatics.net/~demogame/civ3/

The page has been put up, and all that's left to do is put in the actual pages inplace of the placeholders!

The Demogame Webpage is nearing completion!

Future changes to look for - databases and implementing the e-registry.

disorganizer
Sep 07, 2002, 04:32 PM
One problem:
Long Load times.... Maybe reduce graphics size? Not all of use have broadband connections at home ;-)

disorganizer
Sep 07, 2002, 04:34 PM
Second problem: page is bigger than 1024x768?!?

FionnMcCumhall
Sep 07, 2002, 04:45 PM
dis i made the graphics and they load fine on my 56k connection, and the rs is 1024x768 it might be a bit bigger because i didnt have the excat browser size for it
it will be ok, trsut in us

BCLG100
Sep 07, 2002, 05:43 PM
if you sit down and dont do anything it will come

zmei-gorynych
Dec 20, 2002, 01:56 AM
I'm pretty good at flash, and have made a few sites myself, If you need any help email me at wp_orion@hotmail.com, looks like your site hasnt been updated fro a while ;)

AndiB
Apr 04, 2003, 04:43 AM
Is there any progress concerning the demogame website or has the project been abandoned?