NEW VERSION: 2.0!!!

This scenario takes place in 1975, when the world was at the Cold War. USA and the USSR are competing for world supremacy, and other powers are arising.
The USA is economically stronger then the USSR, what gives America a advantage in the Cold War.
I made the USA the human player, but if you want to switch it, use the editor, by loading the scenario and selecting a new human player at player properties.

This is how the world is divided:

North America(United States, Canada, Israel and Panama)
Soviet Union(and the Warsaw Pact countries)
Western Europe(and Australia)
India(and southeast Asia capitalist countries)
China(and Vietnam and North Korea)
Japan(and South Korea)
Arab Nations
Central America(Mexico and Central America)
South America
Africa(non-arab african countries)

This is Version 2.0

This is what changed from version 1.0 to 1.1:

Manhattan Project placed
Intelligence Agency in Moscow placed
Minimum time for tech discovery fixed
Terrains fixed so that cities(most of them) wont starve

This is what changed from version 1.1 to 2.0

Latin America was divided in South America and Central America
Panama was placed under American control
Kalingrad was placed under soviet control
USA and USSR are now stronger


Version 1.0 removed after 21 downloads
Version 1.1 removed after 230 downloads

Good idea, but I don't like the fact that the map is not filled out completely, like in the "Now" scenario. Also, I feel United States should be representing itself, not North America. Leave Canada to be Canada. However, you can make Israel part of the United States.

The big problem with filling out completely the map is that it takes forever to load, and the turns get toooo long. However I will consider your suggestion.
About the USA/Canada thing, I did that because I dont see Canada as been another civilization, I mean, if England, Germany, France, Maxico and Brazil are not in separeted civilizations, why should Canada be? But then again, I will think about your suggestion.

I agree with Propaganda on the Canada issue, but not on the world being filled up. I think the world should only encompass nations that are nessessary... U shouldnt combine canada for the same reason why u dont combine USSR and China. Even though we do have a lot in common with Canadians I think It wouldn't please many folks (canadian and american) besides the fact the Canadians had no (well small) role in the Cold War and should be kept out of the position the americans were in. I agree on luiz also in that if your going to add Canada might as well add other countrys also. But u should try to generalize them unless they had a big role then u should add them to either the soviets or US (like Isreal (US), Hungary. (USSR), Cuba (USSR), South Korea US) etc.) And didnt u make a communist Germany (east) and A democratic Germany (west) as part of the Soviet and US territory?

Sadly, scenarios will be mediocre, at best, until the release of Play The World. I commend everyone's efforts though to make a playable scenario.

Some scenarios are great man... Have u played the Civil War scenario that rocks same with luiz's modified WW3 sen that was originaly created by Stalin (witch rocks also). Download the sens play them then judge wether there medicore, Im not trying to blast u off but to me thats a personal insult. I dont make my senarios to be just medicore I aim higher and Im sure the prolific sen creators do also....sorry I just had to let that one realease my steam

I liked it. Too bad people can't make a Cuban Missile Crisis scenerio, that would be awesome (tacitcal nukes have too little range, ICBM's have to far---we need MRBMs!)

Oh and what I recomed is making NATO instead of the US and Western Europe, because if WW3 broke out, they'd almost be one country.

Just my opinion

Oh and what I recomed is making NATO instead of the US and Western Europe.

Just my opinion

Originally posted by one_man_assault
Some scenarios are great man... Have u played the Civil War scenario that rocks same with luiz's modified WW3 sen that was originaly created by Stalin (witch rocks also). Download the sens play them then judge wether there medicore, Im not trying to blast u off but to me thats a personal insult. I dont make my senarios to be just medicore I aim higher and Im sure the prolific sen creators do also....sorry I just had to let that one realease my steam

I didn't mean to insult you, I was just saying that it's a bit tough to make scenarios right now due to limited options in the editor. I said I commended your efforts, I don't know why you've taken it the wrong way.

I would like to see America and Europe (plus Australia) as part of one country - the UN. Also I like to see the map filled outbut only because of the map (not all visible) and terriotory (doesn't cover all of country in Russia quite often).

Thanks for the suggestions... but there are somethings Id like to say:
Ive added Canada to the US because I think it was too important to be kept out of the game and not important enough(in the cold war) to be a separetad civ. Beside, since Ive added Eastern Europe to the USSR, I had to add something to the US to make a balance.
About making Western Europe and US one country(NATO), I think that would give them huge advantage, making the scenario too unbalanced. The ideal would be to use diplomatic settings, and make an alliance between the US and WE.

rmsharp my apologies I just take things a little bit to seriously when ppl make opinions like that. I guess I was too caught up to understand the full meaning and took it the wrong way. Plus I was having a not so good day. But that was no excuse for busting out like that with out second guessing. But I still think that besides the limitations of the editor a good creator can use creativity to tweak the barriers and get a better than medicore scen. If he/shes creative enough...

I dont know why every scen like to put Skorea to Japan. Korean really dont like Japan. They prohabit many japanese good for import for a long time. ANd those Japanese occupied korea for like half a century long

I know the korean people really dislike Japan, but the fact is South Korea was industrialized by japanese money, and today SKorea is in Japans zone of influence. And I dont see sense in making a civ just for SKorea, since we can only place one or two cities in the peninsula.

South Korea was more industrialized by American money, I'd say. Japan was industrialized by American money, too :p

Actually, no. Japan was rebuilt by american money, just like Europe, but it was industrialized in the Meiji Era, with its own resources(but importing american and european technology)
And Japan is the greater investor in South Korea, not the USA. Not that the USA didnt play a major role in South Korea process of industiralization, but I guess today the country is more influenced by Japan.

interesting scenario...........i am thinking of making another one...any ideas?

Im thinking of a fictional Cold War scenario...It wont look anything like the real one...Itll focus on one area :)

This is the #1 scenario for North Americans, and more specifically Canadians. THE WAR OF 1812. Most Canadian civvers long for a chance to beat the Americans. I think you shoudl try that out.

mmmh......ill do 2, the war of 1812? are u sure taht was a canada americans war? why not a french indian war?
and my other one would be the cuban missile crisis, but i need help looking for a north america map, adn a cuban caribean and south east map, any help?

I have an idea. Im working on scenario that takes place in 1500, when the exploration of the american continent was beggining. Any help will be wellcome.

mmmhm..can u give more details? size of map, what is on the map, and which civs are playable?

sure. The map is Marla Singer World map.
This are the playable civs(I can change them later)

Iberian Union
France
Low Nations
England
Republic of Venice
Holy Empire
Scandinavia
Russia
Ottoman Empire
Egypt
African Nations
Iroquois
Aztecs
China
India
Japan

well marlas map is simply way too big, adn populating it all would take a long time.......well u know how it is people want it all populated....u do it...they argue about loading time......well anyways, i noticed most of those nations are in europe or europe and surroundings, so i think it would be better taht way......i dotn think it would be nice to have the aztecs colonise half of america while england gets behind cus is small.........jsut a thought, any ideas? ^_^

Thats exactly my fear. I dont want the aztecs to become more powerfull then England or France, because I want the scenario to be historicall. Thats hard, because the aztecs have one continent and the europeans have to share a small portion of land. However, the europeans have more techs then the rest of the world, and consequently more firerpower. The european sea powers will also have caravels, so they will be able to reach America, Asia and Africa and conquer the weaker civs.
The problem with using a small ma is that Europe is already too small, and all the european civs there are historically important. I dont intend to populate all of Asia, Africa and America, because they were not much populated in the 16th century.

yeah, mmmh.............i think i know a way to allow teh player to build settlers while the AI will minimise the number of new settlers..........also corruption should be lowered, since lets say spain has cities in mexico, china and india would still be powerful compared to europe, mmmh......we should ad another civ to cover south america like teh incas, the aztecs mexico and the iroqois part of todays US, what u think?

I think its a good idea, but the problem is Im using already 16 civs, so to use another one I would have to take one out.
Whats the way to minimise the number of settlers the ai build?
If you want I cand send the scen to your email so that you see what it looks like...

Im sorry but this is not the world in 1975, i would use modern tanks. More Nuclear weapons, more carriers and units etc otherwise the superpowers arent that much away from medium powers.

I would split europe up, cos the power difference is different in other countries.

It dont matter how much time it takes to download or howmuch detail because without it there is no experience. Oh yeah let the Soviets have access to its oil.

Also maybe let the English have access to Jamaica so that it can get aluminuim.

Well it could be very good but at the moment this is just a good scenario. I would increase fleats and nuclear weapons. Also dont give sides riflemen which are eu powers.

Also let sides get access to infantrymen building, it aint worth them starting off with them but not being able to make them.

thanks for the comments, Ill try to make some changes.
And Russia already have acess to oil, and I will use the Jamaica idea if I split Europe. Perhaps in European Comunty and Northern Coutries(Great Britain, Denmark, Sweden, Norway)?

Leave respectful powers Britain and France seperate, rest just put Europe Allies. Russia has noconected oil up North, make influence bigger in Russia.

The Problem with leaving England and France separated is that with only 4 or 5 cities(thats what i can place there) they will be to weak.

Your getting me wrong. Britain and France are very damm rich. Richer than the whole African world maybe. In this period the Royal Navy should have 4 Cariers and so have the French, with both having lots of nuclear submarines. You need to add more of them. Also, give them towns from where some of the vital colonies were in which they need to export etc.

These countries are very small, but are very strong.

I know that, and the problem is in civ3 its impossible to make a world power with 4 cities. Making Europe a single nation is solution, adding zones of influence(the colonys) is another.

To become a world power u need diplomatic influence which means money. Just give them money, and a bank, and there own military which makes them world powers in the real world.

Ill try that, but lets keep in mind that civ3 isnt like the real world.

They might not count as superpowers but they will be effective

any pictures of the map or in game shots?

Here you go

Umm, there are none =)

The file is to big to be placed here in jpg format. Ill place it for download in zip format. Here you go

downloading it now, I'll check it out in a min

what did you think?

Please someone comment the new version!!!

luiz i will reply this becorse i know how iritating it is when people wont reply, though i dont know what to say:confused:

I think this is a good idea and everything else, however the fact that not all of the land is within culture borders seems to turn me off from it.

However I do think this is a great game and everything else, just won't play it much because of that...

In my new version more land is covered...check it out...

I still think you need to cover pretty much all of the land... just to me, in that day, nothing wasn't taken.

I also think you need to some how make Russia really agressive to its surrending countries, which it was.

And at the same time some how keep the U.S. involved in trying to push them out...

I got no idea how you would ever be able to dothis..

luiz you don't have msn do you? I'd like to talk to you if you do... email me sometime...

mt@a-znet.com

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this is some funny stuff, good scenario BTW.