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mordhiem
Aug 30, 2002, 06:29 AM
The kick-off nears so out comes the big question: Whose gonna end up champions of Spain then?

I have to say, even the mighty Real won't be able to stop Depor this season. They are just so blessed with attacking flair and talent it's unbeliveable. Tristian is superb and Valeron is a genius with the ball at his feet, I could watch him play football all day.

Valencia really need some firepower, sure they have a rock solid defence, but their top scorer last season was Baraja with 7 (:eek:) , I mean come on that's useless! How they managed to win the leauge last year I'll never know.

Barca have bought well, Riquelme and Mendieta are great players, but the defence is a problem and they lack strength in depth for the long haul. A good bet in the CL though methinks.

Real, well, they are just astounding, but they never seem to perform well in the leauge for some reason. It's obvious that the CL is top priority, but it's almost as if they don't care about La Liga. Besides they too lack strength in depth, if Zidane and/or Figo get injured I find it hard to see where the creativity will come from (McMannaman? :lol: ).

So, I'll go with Depor, but what do you think?

academia
Aug 30, 2002, 10:10 AM
BARCELONA!!!!!!
BARCELONA!!!!!!

Suppersalmon
Aug 30, 2002, 01:00 PM
Real Madrid

yaroslav
Aug 30, 2002, 02:39 PM
I'm a supporter of Real Madrid, so I cast this option. And two seasons ago, Real Madrid wons la liga ;)

But I think that Deportivo is a very hard-to-win team, so they probably win! Barcelona: I think that Medieta is not so good... Van Gaal is not bad coach, but Barcelona has some problem: three seasons without a liga or a cup...

Valencia: How they win the last season? They have a poor offense, and only other's faults give them the last Liga.

BTW, today Real Madrid wins the SuperCup!

Dell19
Aug 31, 2002, 02:13 AM
I'll vote for Valencia then :)

Danners
Sep 07, 2002, 06:49 AM
Real Madrid seek to buy the championship every year.

I borrow this from another BBS i am a member of, regarding Real Madrid. Written by someone who lives in the city.

if you will bear with me. Real Madrid is one club - one, great and free, as Franco would have it. During his dictatorshhip the then chairman, Santiago Bernabéu, made some extremely powerful contacts which led to them being called "the team of the régime", often benefitting from some fairly scandalous decisions on and off the footie field. Amongst these, in the 1950s the régime took some land from private ownership, which you can do in a dictatorship, and gave it to Real Madrid to run as a sporting centre of excellence for the people of Madrid (in fact it became their training ground, bending the rules a bit). Now the current government of Spain, the Partido Popular, has a cabinet notoriously peopled by the children and grandchildren of Franco's ministers, and indeed was founded by on of his top ministers in the 60s, Manuel Fraga, now the slightly decrepit President of Galicia. This same party has governed Madrid city and County council for twelve years or so and will almost certainly win again next year. When Real's current Chairman, Florentino Pérez, won the elections two years ago it was with a promise that he would sign Luis Figo (and return all the season ticket money, about twenty million quid, if he didn't), and wipe out the debt which has been estimated at 160 million pounds, approximately. In fact he had signed a clause with Figo that if he won the election (which looked impossible two months before when the previous President, Lorenzo Sanz, delivered the European Cup), and Figo did not sign, Figo would pay that money; it's rumoured that Figo phoned Gaspart, President of Barcelona, after Pérez won, begging him to pay the money to free him from the deal - I don't know how true the story is but Figo didn't look too happy the day he signed. Then Pérez came up with his "pelotazo" - convincing Madrid council to reclassify the stolen land (in a very prime part of the city for real estate) for development, bringing in 400 million pounds to the club. The ministers and dignitaries responsible for this are to be seen every other weekend in the Director's Box. It's the reason we who live here always say that every new player belongs to us, the madrileños, and the reason you have to take with a pinch of salt all the guff about what a magnificent businessman Pérez is, managing to generate all this cash for players - it is, quite simply, stolen money.

Incidentally, i want Barca to win - as always.

yaroslav
Sep 07, 2002, 01:38 PM
Hi, Danners!

Altough you have put is in some way is correct, I disagree on some topics

1) Madrid is not the "team of regimé". The Franco dictatorship in first moment doesn't like Real Madrid because Real Madrid has strong links with the Republic Governement. After Madrid start winnig tournaments, the regime turn his mind and uses the Real Madrid as a way to obtain publicity on Europe.

2) After Franco goverment, Real Madrid wons 3 Champions Leage, 2 before Perez arrives.

3) Barcelona does on the 50s (within Franco governement) the same real state operation with their terrains

4) Partido Popular is not sure to win on Madrid next year. PSOE chances are so high, that PP has put one of his most famous politican on Madrid Chairman, in order to stop PSOE posibilities. And I think that PP will not win, but PSOE will do.

I think that Perez is a very good president, and Nuñez was a good president for Barça. Barça problems start with Gaspart presidency...

(This is my humble opinion. As always, I can be wrong)

Danners
Sep 07, 2002, 09:45 PM
What i posted is not necessarily my opinion, i am not aware of the situation. It's just what i was reading and what someone else put.

yaroslav
Sep 09, 2002, 01:31 PM
What you post is also the opinion of a good number of spaniards. What I post is the opion of another good number of spaniards :)

I can be wrong, of course ;)