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Zsilot
Feb 13, 2009, 04:56 PM
I've recently started a research project for Wikipedia on (god forbid) the sixth Sassanid King: Bahram III. Why you ask? I thought because he had such a short reign it would be an easy one to follow. What I didn't forsee is that because his reign was so short there is almost NOOOOOOOOOOO information on him. So here's my question:

Do any of you know any books/websites that have some/any information on this fellow that are of decent credibility and standard?

I've already read and skimmed through the following books/websites:

-Bosworth, Clifford (1999). The Sāsānids, the Byzantines, the Lakhmids, and Yemen. Albany: SUNY Press. ISBN 0791443558.
-Yarshater, Ehsan (1968). The Cambridge History of Iran. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 052120092X.
-Ayatollahi, Habibollah (2003). The Book of Iran: The History of Iranian Art. City: Center for International-Cultural Studies. ISBN 9649449140.
-Baker, Patricia L. (2005). Iran, 2nd: the Bradt Travel Guide. City: Bradt Travel Guides. ISBN 1841621234.
-The Encyclopedia Iranica.

Any help would be much appreciated. :)

Dachs
Feb 13, 2009, 06:44 PM
Couldn't you have picked Narseh like a normal person? :p Most of what I know of Bahram III, which is little, has come from the Roman perspective. Yarshater is probably the resource I would have gone to first, though. Sorry, I don't really know enough about the dude to help. Cheezy might have something good though. :dunno:

Zsilot
Feb 14, 2009, 07:34 AM
Couldn't you have picked Narseh like a normal person? :p Most of what I know of Bahram III, which is little, has come from the Roman perspective. Yarshater is probably the resource I would have gone to first, though. Sorry, I don't really know enough about the dude to help. Cheezy might have something good though. :dunno:

Normal is a figurative term.

Also about Yarshater I did find his work's ok but I did notice that he was also a contributor to the Encyclopedia Iranica aswell in which he contradicts himself about something. XD

Anyways from those books alone I've put together about 4 paragraphs on Bahram. It may be possible that that is all the informationwe currently have on him.

Cheezy the Wiz
Feb 14, 2009, 10:34 AM
Couldn't you have picked Narseh like a normal person? :p Most of what I know of Bahram III, which is little, has come from the Roman perspective. Yarshater is probably the resource I would have gone to first, though. Sorry, I don't really know enough about the dude to help. Cheezy might have something good though. :dunno:

I know pathetically little about the time between Pahlavan and Arab rule of Iran. Sorry. :blush:

Zsilot
Feb 14, 2009, 11:17 AM
I know pathetically little about the time between Pahlavan and Arab rule of Iran. Sorry. :blush:


Looks like an area to study. :king:

Also I believe the Sassanids were before the Arabs. And Pahlavi dynasty was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy after the Arabs.

Dachs
Feb 14, 2009, 11:21 AM
Normal is a figurative term.
Hence the smiley. :p
Also about Yarshater I did find his work's ok but I did notice that he was also a contributor to the Encyclopedia Iranica aswell in which he contradicts himself about something. XD
Pick the most recent source, I guess. Where'd he contradict himself?
Anyways from those books alone I've put together about 4 paragraphs on Bahram. It may be possible that that is all the informationwe currently have on him.
It's probably fine. Not every Wikipedia article has to be of epic length.

Zsilot
Feb 14, 2009, 11:25 AM
Hence the smiley. :p

Pick the most recent source, I guess. Where'd he contradict himself?

It's probably fine. Not every Wikipedia article has to be of epic length.

*Nod* I believe it was him he said in one book that Bahram III died peacefully and Narseh succeded him and in the other he said Bahram III was overthrown by Narseh (which is the correct one). XD

Anywho I was just wondering because if this is all the information currently available about Bahram III then the article might be already getting near to FA quality, minus my poor grammar I suppose... (--> Rofl.)

Cheezy the Wiz
Feb 14, 2009, 12:20 PM
Looks like an area to study. :king:

Also I believe the Sassanids were before the Arabs. And Pahlavi dynasty was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy after the Arabs.

Pahlava --> Sasan ---> Arab.

Thus, knowing little about the area between Pahlava and Arab rule means knowing little about Sassanian rule. :)

Quildavyr
Feb 14, 2009, 01:35 PM
Heraclius pwned Chosroes II. That is all someone has to know about Sassanid Empire:p

Dachs
Feb 14, 2009, 04:34 PM
Heraclius pwned Chosroes II. That is all someone has to know about Sassanid Empire:p
Khosrau Anushirvan was too cool to ignore like that dude. :mad:

;)

Zsilot
Feb 14, 2009, 06:18 PM
Oh you are meaning between the Parthians and the Arabs now it makes sense. O-o

Bast
Feb 16, 2009, 03:15 AM
I know a lot more about the Achaemenid Empire. But I am interested. Thanks for the list of reading material.

Cheezy the Wiz
Feb 16, 2009, 11:14 AM
Oh you are meaning between the Parthians and the Arabs now it makes sense. O-o

Yes, Pahlava was the Parthian endonym. Pahlavi was the dynasty that overthrew the Qajars.

Quildavyr
Feb 16, 2009, 12:01 PM
Khosrau Anushirvan was too cool to ignore like that dude. :mad:

;)


Yeah,he was cool.But his coolness didnt help him to beat Justinian.He had won a combat,but eternal peace signed.And his grandson,wasnt that cool:)

So I ignore both of them:p


PS: Dachs,I am sure you remember about Bayezit's epic screw up at Ankara.I made a search and learnt the name of serbian leader,who betrayed Bayezit.Name was Stefan Lazarević.However his wiki pages on english and german do not mention about his betrayal.I got only turkish sources on this matter.I thought you would be interested:)

Dachs
Feb 16, 2009, 02:00 PM
PS: Dachs,I am sure you remember about Bayezit's epic screw up at Ankara.I made a search and learnt the name of serbian leader,who betrayed Bayezit.Name was Stefan Lazarević.However his wiki pages on english and german do not mention about his betrayal.I got only turkish sources on this matter.I thought you would be interested:)
I am interested, and noted myself that there weren't any sources on Serbian betrayal in a language that I could understand.

Zsilot
Feb 25, 2009, 08:52 PM
I can't imagine a king that could have any less information on him. I have been unable to find any new resources over the last week. -.-

Dachs
Feb 26, 2009, 01:28 AM
I can't imagine a king that could have any less information on him. I have been unable to find any new resources over the last week. -.-
Oh, trust me, if you get into studying Baktria you will very literally find nothing. All we have of most of these dudes is the coinage they minted.