Okey here is the the thread for all trades to do with our glorious empire.

1-We will build as many roads to as many resources and luxures in our empire and when we expand we will build more.

2-Continually purse knowledge getting the best deals possible.

3-try to trade technology that will not hinder us e.g literature(great library) and iron working (iron and sworsdmen)

4- try to trade as least techs as possible if they enable getting a resource thus allowing us to move in on them before eveyone else know there, there.

5-Only trade resouces that will not hinder us e.g. saltpeter in the modern age

6-if we trade with one civ trade with evry civ that turn but shop[ around and see which has the best price because the price goes down the more people know it if the civ cant offer us a good deal and it is a not very good tch then just give it to them

7-try not to trade our world maps and territory maps until later on in the game they become more valuable then but always try and trade for maps.

8-Never offer gpt only pay in gold also never accpet gpt froma civ who is furious with us and has a big army and is likely to attack us only accept a sum.

9-we will try to work together with everyone thus co-ordinating our efforts to improve our great nation

<saved for trade table>

Looking good.

BCLG and Toasty, I'm compiling a list of names that officials plan on naming their cities. May I ask, what do you plan on naming yours?

The Trade Deputy drops in his two cents...

Originally posted by BCLG100
Okey here is the the thread for all trades to do with our glorious empire.

1-We will build as many roads to as many resources and luxures in our empire and when we expand we will build more.



Well, this is a given. However, should roads to resources be the most important jobs of our workers, or instead city improvements to let us attain early wonders (The Great Library Especially)?

Originally posted by BCLG100

2-Continually purse knowledge getting the best deals possible.


Again, pretty much a given. However, you say further down we should not trade away techs. What about trading one for another? If it is the only way we can get a tech owned by one of our enemies, should we use it? Personally, I would like to only trade techs in the event that we will get another valuable tech in exchange.

Originally posted by BCLG100

3-try to trade technology that will not hinder us e.g literature(great library) and iron working (iron and sworsdmen)


This I agree with, but we should take a hard stance on this. Not "try." Do.

Originally posted by BCLG100

4- try to trade as least techs as possible if they enable getting a resource thus allowing us to move in on them before eveyone else know there, there.


Let's not get ahead of ourselves, we might not even need to trade for resources.

Originally posted by BCLG100

5-Only trade resouces that will not hinder us e.g. saltpeter in the modern age


If we have vast amounts of excess Iron (i.e. 3 extra), should we not engage in such extremely lucrative trade? Stifling the opposition by denying them valuable resources is all well and good, but should our economy go sliding down the tubes, we might value having made (or being able to make) those trades.

If we do do this, we should do it ASAP, because odds are if we don't trade another civ our excess valuable resources, another will, and the option will be closed to us.

Originally posted by BCLG100

6-if we trade with one civ trade with evry civ that turn but shop[ around and see which has the best price because the price goes down the more people know it if the civ cant offer us a good deal and it is a not very good tch then just give it to them


I agree.

Originally posted by BCLG100

7-try not to trade our world maps and territory maps until later on in the game they become more valuable then but always try and trade for maps.


I do not agree. If we don't get a few territory maps, it will cost a FORTUNE to buy one of the decked-out, AI-traded maps later on. The scramble for territorial information must be participated in, and if we aren't on top of it now, we will pay for it later.

Originally posted by BCLG100

8-Never offer gpt only pay in gold also never accpet gpt froma civ who is furious with us and has a big army and is likely to attack us only accept a sum.


What if they are far away from us? This policy should be subject to exceptions. What do we have to fear from a landlocked enemy on another continent?

Originally posted by BCLG100

9-we will try to work together with everyone thus co-ordinating our efforts to improve our great nation

But of course ;).


Octavian X - I'm not sure. I'll have to get back to you on that one :D. Just in case I don't, I still like "Bradenburg Gate".

Toasty. don't worry. You'll have lots of time to decide, since your at the bottom of the CoC, just above almightyjosh...

Well, that's just peachy...

lol
1-yes we should try and improve cities but if it is a valuable resource then we must aim for it also if it is a luxury
2- well yes if it is a really good tech to trade for of course we will but i dont think we should trade for techs we are reaserching
4- umm i wasnt talking about trading for a resource i was talking about trading the tech of a resource e.g. iron working because if we can see it first it allows us to move in on the resource before the other civ can.
5- i agree but only if it is a really good deal we dont want some really bed deal and then end up having them attack us with the units they ahve built from the reource
7-toasty i said not to trade ours away not to try and not trade for anyone elses butif we hold of longer then our world map will become more valuable
8-well yes there is that possiblity but not a huge posiblity of that happening

@octavian when do i get to name a city?

Please post any turn chat instructions (if applicable) in this thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31180) for tonight's game.

well this is what i have thought of so far if anyone disagrees then say so now

I dont think we should trade bronze working because if we launch an earlier offensive it would be easier against warriors than spearmen also we could trade warrior code but if the babylons are the nly person we know then i dont think we should

Originally posted by BCLG100
well this is what i have thought of so far if anyone disagrees then say so now

I dont think we should trade bronze working because if we launch an earlier offensive it would be easier against warriors than spearmen also we could trade warrior code but if the babylons are the nly person we know then i dont think we should

I completely disagree. They will get it through other means well before our warriors get to their cities whether we trade it or not.

yes but if we trade first then they will have more time to build up their forces im not saying we should give it away but i think that we could trade it for say alphabet

Our enemies will fly through the early techs compared to us. We might want to concentrate on what we really want to trade for instead of what we will trade. eyrei is right, our tech will only hold value for a short time. Last time I looked, Ceremonial Burial got bumped way down the tech research list. I would like to see an attempt to get this.

In this game, we will not be making a major statement by withholding techs. Until we start knocking some tribes down, we will be scraping to keep up.

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>Originally posted by BCLG100
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>8-Never offer gpt only pay in gold also never accpet gpt from a
>civ who is furious with us and has a big army and is likely to
>attack us only accept a sum.
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>What if they are far away from us? This policy should be subject
>to exceptions. What do we have to fear from a landlocked
>enemy on another continent?

Beware the dominos, esp. on Emperor...

Friend BCLG, I pray you to trade for the art of burying things ceremonially (weird things is, Neanderthals and early humans could do this, yet we can not yet?) thus enabling the production of things cultural. Please Master Bclg, For you alone have the authority to try to get this trade to be what will occur. I only ask.

I agree with curufinwe.

Originally posted be BCLG100
@octavian when do i get to name a city?


You name our 6th city, since the trade dept. is the sixth in the CoC.

ok sorry for not posting instructions i had a powercut ill look at the save and see what trade i could do unless we already have it im not sure

Your vote is needed in this Council Vote (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30834).

oops sorry i missed it

ok what does everyone think we should do for the next chat then?

Trade for ceremonial burial? what would be our trading chip? we have not yet discovered map making and I do not think we have another tech, apart from iron working (in about 30 turns) and I oppose trading it, especially to a war like nation like the aztecs. Gold? Hmmmm.... I don't think we have enuff to but it.

Ehecatl Atzin

anyway by the time we get ironworking theyll probably have it anyway

I know this is boring for the trade department, but I think it is really important to *not* trade with the Aztecs if we are going to go after them militarily. Everything we trade gives them a leg up on production of defense and counter-offense.

It'd be forever before we get a road to Tenchitlan, anyway. We don't even know how many excess spice we'll have, if any.

but danke by the time we find anything useful to do with it they would already have it and more techs so yes not trade that much but if we start getting behind then i will

we could barter the contact for something. thats always worth gold/tech.

BCLG100, if we are successful in our military ventures we will get everything they have, without giving up a thing :)

Either way, in the early game, the AI's are unlikely to go for gpt deals.

I suggest that discisson here be taken to the Science Department. It has the final say on decisions involving tech trades, though I certainly encourage cooperation between the two.

Please vote in the Council Vote for Domestic Leader (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31915).

Please cast your vote in the Council Vote (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32094) for Culture Leader.

BCLG, since you're deputy in culture as well, you could vote for culture, and Toasty for trade. I'm not sure if that can work, but if you vote as trade, you can't vote as culture.

ah okay for the time being i will but as soon as we find a replacement ill come back and vote for trade until such time i guess i will continue with both

Esteemed Trade Minister.

The Foreign Affairs Department wishes to know your comments on trading iron working to the british, you may find said proposal on the FAM page. Please give us your input.
That is all.

Ehecatl Atzin

I would like to ask if i can have the honor of being your turn chat rep. I would uphold the values of the Trade Ministry. I think this is a good idea because you have recently missed the turn chat and that might have had durastic affects on the game. I can also be the replacement.

The Great Iguanaman

ok sure you can be chat rep i cant attend midwekk chats cos i live in England and have schooll the next day and i think toasty ogt banned for some reason

cool, can i have an official edit on the original thread so people knnow that i am the chat rep and that im not making it up. Thank you.

The Great Iguanaman

Please cast your vote in this council vote (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32463) for the Governor of Bohemia.

Hey, BC, have you voted for the Govenor of Bohemia yet. I recomend it would be in our best interest to vote yes. If you vote no, then the Dom minister will become the governor. This will give one man too much power and we cant allow that. Also, would you mind campaigning a bit for my election?

The Great Iguanaman

iguanaman read the constitution and get a better sense of the laws

I have, that doesnt mean i agree with them. i was just voicing my opinion about them. It was not, by any means, a dis on you.

The Great Iguanaman

you need to fix you sig the url wont work :)

i know, i know.........it work when you post in a thread, im doing it as we speak :)
After its fixed please click it and vote!!!!

The Great Iguanaman

anyways here is instructions
Trade Department
the People have spoken
Wheel and Masonry-Ironworking

monty doesnt have the wheel so see if you can get a good deal outa him for it also check every turn to see whether toguwaka improves his deal for ironworking

Tech trade possibilities for 2150 BC. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32610)

We can sell either iron working or the alphabet to the Japanese for 81 gold. I think this is a good deal for us. Does trade endorse this deal?

uhm praps not iron working but maybe alphabet
but as this is strider job tech trades and all i can not actually make the deal

I think we should deal Alphabet for 81.

I am not opposed to dealing iron working either, assuming that the Aztecs have it already.

GI as you are running for TL this time would you like to demonstrte how good you are by doing next t/c's instructions if so reply within 24 hours because if not i will post them i dont really think CT need any practise anyway as she was it for 2 terms

I would love this! This is one sign of a Great leader. Thank you. But, you might want to be sure about this because you have only one more TC left (i think) in this ministry. Thank you again.

The Great Iguanaman

no i dont mind you might jneed to start a relanvent poll about it and PM strider to see what he thinks but go ahead i dont mind ive already done it enough

i missed the last TC, i know we met someone, who was and what did they offer.

The Great Iguanaman

GI you have to donwload the save then have a look at it see what deals can be made then go from there if you havnt posted anything there by 11pm GMT ill post them

I am have problems d/l the saved game. I have windows ME. I dont know whats up, but i am working on fixing it. If it doesnt work by 11 then i guess youll have to post. I will be working on the problem round the clock.

The Great Iguanaman

have you downloaded the latest patch

yea, i have no clue whats going on.

The Great Iguanaman

Are you sure you can open save files? You'll need it for next term. ;)

*Chieftess gets her Trade Department lessons ready for the deputy* :)

okay well its time for me to leave the trade departmement i might come back who knows but ill still be here to pick up on any little things you 2 forget

Don't forget to raid the Trade Department Vault! hahaha

Ehecatl Atzin

oh yes we have a few grand in there but wait whats the combination

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Term 2 thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33211)