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When you go home,
Tell them of us and say,
For their tomorrow,
We gave our today.
The Kohima Epitaph

All gave some,
Some gave all.
Unknown

They shall not grow old as we that are left grow old.
Age will not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun, and in the morning,
We will remember them.
Laurence Binyon

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Austria, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Denmark, Norway...

The list of nations Hitler has conquered grows ever longer, and now he is poised to invade France, as 1940 says its goodbyes and 1941 is welcomed in with hope.

Russia is turning the other cheek, planning its own moves against Hitler and quite happy to see Western Europe and Germany kill each other.

The U-boats have begun their offensive on Britain's supply lines, and already rationing is being enforced.

The French and British despair. Who can they turn to? Could they even try reasoning with the evil ruler of Germany?

The United States is far removed from this conflict, as they continue to argue over whether to help. Some hope that they will, but many realise even if they do, it will take many months for their supplies and army to reach Europe.

Germany seems triumphant, and Russia a ever-growing threat. Even Mussolini is happy, despite worries that he is now weaker than Hitler, and therefore could even be invaded by his ally.

The Balkans, never a stable place, is now worrying and arguing, knowing Hitler will come for them, but not knowing whether to help him or fight him.

Malta bravely holds off air raid after air raid, and the Royal Navy fights to prevent invasions.

The campaign in North Africa is the Allies only successes at the moment, with Montgomery routing Italian forces.

But as Rommel, the Desert Fox as he will become known, arrives in North Africa, it seems even this small victory might turn to defeat.

With Spain eyeing up Gibraltar as a nice target, and Turkey swaying towards the Axis camp, it seems the Allies are doomed, and hope is lost.

But can they snatch victory from the jaws of defeat? Or is Hitler already too powerful to stop?

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CREDITS TO SPEND

Britain has £31 to spend!

France has £32 to spend!

Spain has £26 to spend!

Italy has £32 to spend!

Germany has £29 to spend!

The Balkans have £28 to spend!

Turkey has £20 to spend!

Russia has £35 to spend!

Sweden has £8 to spend!

Switzerland has £5 to spend!


These nation's beginning money may not look very equal, but I have used a system to make sure everyone is almost equal, and that everyone has a chance.

The Game System
Each day(or so if it gets too big/complicated, or I don't have enough orders, or I'm out a cetain night), you will PM me orders.

Now trust me, this is going to be a b*tch to manage in comparison to the UKNES3, and units won't be shown on the map, so I suggest you save the file with your unit deployments onto your computer, and edit it as you send orders.

I will try and update every night, and post combat reports.

The Combat System

It's quite simple, I roll a one sided dice for each unit in a battle. If the roll is equal to or below their Attack or Defence rating(depending on whether you're attacking or defending), you kill an enemy unit. For bonuses, if there is a unit of that type in the enemy order of battle for that province, then you will get the bonus applied.

The cheapest units in a battle always die first. There is only one roll per unit - then whoever has the most units left takes control of the province(or holds onto it) and the other retreats. If there is nowhere to retreat to(for either side) the battle continues until death.

Types of Orders

Bombardment
Artillery and ship bombardments are inaccurate, and this is reflected by only killing on a 3 or below on a 6 sided dice - still nothing to be laughed at though.

Bombing run
Bombers are more accurate, and to reflect this, they kill on 5 or below. As they have no attack value, they should be escorted by fighters. The bomber squadron doesn't fight any of the ground units(except bombarding them), only enemy air units.

Fighter sweep
You may order your fighters to make a sweep over an enemy province to rid it of air support. In these orders they will only have to fight enemy air units, but they cannot be combined with an attack on the province in the same turn - in a normal attack, a fighter squadron fights all units.

Movement
As always, all units may only move one sea or province per turn. The only exceptions are the fighter sweep and bombing runs, where the unit will enter the province to do the special attack, then retreat back out of it after, and of course retreating from an attack as normal. An air unit must end its turn in one of your provinces(or an ally's) or a sea with your(or an ally's) carrier in it.

Also, air units may move 2 provinces within your territory per turn(but may not move 1 then attack or fighter sweep/bombing run, cause those take BOTH of the moves). Also, they move across one sea and land in a friendly province, or on a friendly carrier.

The only places where air units can cross in one turn(and basically attack without having to share a land border) is the 6 to 10 border, the 18 to 19 border and the 38 to 69 border.

Income
You get 3 credits from a province, 5 from a capital. You can only build units in a capital, and you may not build any kind of structure - this isn't an economy game, but a wargame.

If your capital doesn't border the sea, then your naval units build in the nearest sea - that's H or D for France, Q for the Balkans, and G, E, F or P for Russia.

You begin with a treasury. This is basically the amount of money you have banked. The treasury's limit is £50(we're going on dollars($) or pounds(£), whichever suits you). After the first turn, you receive money as normal. There is no upkeep to pay.

For your information
Each turn is one game month. It is currently December 1940.

Each £ in the game is worth £1 million(or $1m if you're using dollars).

Units

Tank Division
Attack=5 Defence=3
+1 Defence v Infantry
Cost= £5

Infantry Division
Attack=3 Defence=5
+1 Attack v Artillery
Cost= £3

Artillery Battery
Attack=0 Defence=3
Can Bombard, +3 Attack v Infantry
Cost= £2


Fighter Squadron
Attack=3 Defence=5
Can perform a Fighter Sweep
Cost=£6

Bomber Squadron
Attack=0 Defence=0
Can perform Bombing Runs, +3 Defence v Fighters, can carry 3 units(Tank=3 units, Infantry=1, Artillery=2)
Cost= £10


Battleship
Attack=5 Defence=5
Can Bombard
Cost= £18

Aircraft Carrier
Attack=0 Defence=3
Can carry 5 air units(Fighter=1 unit, Bomber=2 units)
Cost=£18

Destroyer
Attack=3 Defence=3
Can Bombard, +1 Attack and Defence against Submarines
Cost= £12

Submarine
Attack=3 Defence=5
+1 Attack v Battleships
Cost= £12

Transport
Attack=0 Defence=0
Can transport 6 units(Tank=3 units, Infantry=1, Artillery=2)
Cost= £18

Militia(Home Guard)
Attack=0 Defence=3
Based in a province after you take it/already own it. Cannot move, and only defends that province.
Cost= Free in provinces

Capital Militia
Attack=0 Defence=5
Based in your capital(if you take an enemy capital, it will only have normal militia there once it is taken, since it is not your capital), and you may only have one per nation.
Cost= Free in capital

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Nemesis

PS: For SKILORD:
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Uk says orders are to be PMEd to Him.

Dem is Spain.
Ruler to be announced.

dam i cant figure out how to make this thing switch signed in names (meaning how to sign in as myself, RoddyVR)

UK, i guess you figured out what your schedule is gonna be like? or is this just a teaser?

Ill take the challenge of Britain...lol, either that or Russia. I am prepared to go down in flying colors ;)

-Jason

Well I can't come on tonight or tomorrow night, cause I'm out, so I won't be able to do a first outcome until Wednesday night.

I'm going to slowly start adding the content, and hopefully it will be ready to begin by Wednesday.

Nemesis

I will take France.

However, depending on how represent my army, I think you and I should discuss how the French army should be represented. It was actually in decent shape, and I'd perfer a "what-if" scenario than a scenario that follows the historical course...

I'll again be Turkey.

I´m Italy.

Don't worry Toasty, the nations will be almost equal, and the combat system won't discriminate against nations.

Basically, this is NOT a historical story, it's simply a what would you do? type scenario.

So yes, there is even a chance that France could blitz Germany :p

Nemesis

I would like to be Spain.

Eowyn I am Spain. Pick another one man.

Ill take the challenge of Britain...lol, either that or Russia. I am prepared to go down in flying colors

-Jason


UK, assuming that you are not playing Britain (which would mean you aint playing at all, just modding) then i will take the one that jason doesnt. (i would prefer russia to britain actualy)
if you are playing (britain i assume) and jason gets russia, then i guess i'm out of this one cause i dont think there are any countries left.

EDIT: ok, just realized i was wrong. Germany and the Balkan states are left.
if i cant be russia (see above) then i'll take Germany

I wasnt aware Nem was playing, so if he takes Britain, I will control Russia ;)

na, UK just told me he aint playing, just modding, so jason you got Britain, and i got Russia

for all else: which leaves Germany and the Balkans, not taken

I'll play as the Balkan States please.

Hopefully this NES can take-off....

which leaves Germany.

and Eowyn of Rohan still has to pick a country instead of Spain since Demetrias took that one(if not very clearly) on the very first reply to UK's post.

Eowyn of Rohan you want Germany?
and UK, when we starting ???
*patiently waits for start of UKNESV*
.....3 seconds later......
*runs out of patience*
dam it, why aint it started yet????
/jk
:D

not fair not fair not fair.

hmph!

Sorry, since schoolopening I have too much on my plate already :( Much more than anticipated, so I'm afraid I can't be in any NESes for a while...

there you go SKILORD, Take Germany now!

Heil Chancellor Nicholas Bismark!

I've got Germany!

Nations available:
Britain - jason
France - toasty
Germany - skilord
Spain - demetrias
Russia - roddy
Turkey - kennelly
Italy - iceeye
Balkan States - dexter

so all we need now is =Rules etc will be posted later.

lol thanks Roddy.

And SKILORD, you don't have to be Hitler unless you want to, but please all make up stories to explain your leader coming to power, as we are beginning historically, even if it turns into an alternative history scenario.

Rules etc will be posted later(I've just got back from a college induction, and only have an hour or two at most before I have to rush out to work training(also have to get ready for it).

But tonight I will have plenty of time, tomorrow and Friday I'm free, so rules can be posted, map can be posted and game can begin soon.

Nemesis

IceEye is Italy,I'm Turkey.

Atatürk was already dead at that time,so I'll be his successor Ismet Inönu (historically correct).

I would like to be churchil (sp?), historically. I think he was a great leader fo the english. What do you think, english people here (all i know is nem!)?

IceEye is Italy,I'm Turkey.
oops, sorry bout that. i'll change that in the post above just incase someone decides to copy/paste it later.

I'll be Stalin.
i dont like the bastard so maybe if i run the country into the ground 'as him', he'll turn in his grave (or his frying pan in hell as the case may be ;)). so wheather i win of lose, it will be good :lol:

Oh, shoot, what was Blum's first name?

Toasty - you could be Charles De Gaulle if you wanted...

Nemesis

PS: Deciding rules now, they'll be posted soon.

so anticipating for the game! Still not up yet! Ahhh!! Going crazy! lol, jk, take your time, nemesis.

-Jason

Ick, Charles de Gaulle?

No, I'll take Leon Blum of the Popular Front, thank you very much :D.

howdy strangers!
wassssabi

<horizon wargame god

nemmi says i can take sweden

:aargh3:-let the game begin!!!


:sniper: :die:
:scout: :rocket3:
:shottie: :rocket2:

Welcome aboard, Cloyne

And SKILORD, you don't have to be Hitler unless you want to, but please all make up stories to explain your leader coming to power, as we are beginning historically, even if it turns into an alternative history scenario.


well historically the only other faction that could have nabbed power were Socialist Revolutionaries or Commies (if they had worked together).

I'm sticking with National Socialism, though it will bring me greif.

nem? The rules?

jason, they up! were for about 40 mins when you posted that. they on the first post

uk i know you just went offline, but here's a question for tomorow:
Now trust me, this is going to be a b*tch to manage in comparison to the UKNES3, and units won't be shown on the map, so I suggest you save the file with your unit deployments onto your computer, and edit it as you send orders.
when you say units wont be shown on the map, does that mean that the map wont reflect the locations of armies AT ALL? or will you have it like jason does in the that big ass game he's got going where it shows that there is an army there just not what size or what units?

Well, I can manage playing a neutral nation, since that's no so much of a time drain! May I be Switzerland? Do I start with 3 or 5 Francs?

Uk if we are going to do this Historically at least in the Beginning then i think you need to take Finland away from Russia and make it a neutral because it fought Russia through out world war II and did not loss till the end.

hey, Dem....F-U. /jk
how about we take some of your starting cash away?
i start with 36 dollars less then you(and a couple others) do as it is, and you wanna take territories away from me?

you realy think spain was THAT much richer then Russia at that time in history?
the game has to be balanced though:
i get a bunch of starting territories that i cant defend
and you get a bunch of starting cash to take terriotries with from the getgo.

ya, well, look at my position! Britain is going to lose three provinces in the begining probably, and I cant do a damned thing about it! I have to build a transport, then units, plus units to defend my homeland! This is gonna be tuff, and I only make $23!

Oh well, I guess you pick Britain, you pick the struggle. lol.

Anyways, on with the game:

Spain and France,

I wish to sign an MPP with you to counter the axis threats. If enough of us smaller nations ally, we may be able to counter the German and Italian threat!

-Churchill of Britain

Britain, France, Spain, Russia: I desire to sign MPP with all of you. I may be a very small nation but due to my central position I can reach deep into the Axis with air raids, if war is declared.

To:Germany,Italy,Spain and Soviet Union
From:Turkey

The Turkish republic offers all of you NAPs.

Finland is part of Russia cause if Finland wasn't, it would be a player nation, and I deliberately balanced it out so that if people joined historic sides(or went with historic sympathies in some cases) the line up would be:

Allies- France, Britain, Balkans, Soviet Union

Axis- Italy, Spain, Germany, Turkey

Also, neutral nations CAN be played, and receive the normal money.

Basically, Switzerland can be called a capital, but ONLY for Switzerland, once someone else takes it it becomes a normal province again.

So Switzerland begins with £5, Sweden begins with £8, and the Flanders Alliance begins with £5.

Nemesis

PS: Roddy, NO units or armies or fleets will be shown on the map mainly to help me, but the news at the end of each turn will mention troop build ups like only troublesome newspapers can :p

From Russia
To Turkey

we accept you NAP.

The game has begun, so begin getting orders in!

Nemesis

Unit bonuses have been rejigged slightly...

Nemesis

To:Germany,Italy,Spain and Soviet Union
From:Turkey

The Turkish republic offers all of you NAPs.

The Fuher accepts.

In this world he is more millitarily and diplomatically saavy.

Dearest USSR:
Would you be willing to sign an NAP?

To the Fuher of Germany
From Russia

the statement that was here has been retracted by the Russian government

Sure, we will sign a NAP. may our good relations last untill you break your word.

Stalin of the CCCP

Statement of President Ismet Inönu of the Turkish Republic:

"For 20 years now our nation has been laicistic and western-orientated and we prospered much.But now it is time not only to prosper internally but externally.We won't become a second Ottoman Empire again,but to restore Turkeys safety and glory we will occupy Greece to make the lives of Greeks and Turks safe and prospering."

To: President Ismet Inonu of Turkey
From: The President of the Republic of United Balkan States
Subj: Greece
We demand that you immediatly remove your troops from Greece or face war with the UBS and her allies. This act of aggression will be over-looked if you remove your troops immediatly.

To: Germany
From: The United Balkan States
Subj: Mutual Protection Pact
Oh Great Fuhrer. We understand your views on the state of Germany and believe that you should be treated with more dignity by the rest of Europe.
May we offer you a MPP to ensure our nations may prosper together and will aid each other in war, will you accept?

Nem: Shouldn't Spain be dirt poor? They just got finished with a Civil War and were in no shape to fight any battles in WW2 (right now it looks like they could crush France with Germany so easily it isn't even funny...)

dam it people, FORGET HISTORY. yeesh, he balanced the game, screw history.
and that "X and Y could crush Z with no problems and that ain fair" thing is crap. of course 2 countries can crush one if they team up. make allies!

Spain has 7 territories and 50 to start with.

That ain't balanced...

Eowen, what nation are you?

To France and Spanish: to Protect our western territory, I think we should sign an MPP alliance. Will you accept?

-Britain

Originally posted by RoddyVR
To the Fuher of Germany
From Russia

the statement that was here has been retracted by the Russian government

Sure, we will sign a NAP. may our good relations last untill you break your word.

Stalin of the CCCP

never! the Fuher's word is good as gold!

I am The Republic of Switzerland.

Switzerland,

Britain accepts your MPP proposol, if France does and Spain accepts mine.

-Britain

To: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
From: President Leon Blum of France

Seeing as our nations have only found ourselves as allies in past years, we accept your generous offer of mutual protection and look on the grim horizon determined, but now stand side by side with our great neighbors in London.

Paris,

You are as greatful as intelligent. Nothing but good can become between our two nations.

-Britain

Nem: Is there going to be a trading system?

To Churchill
From Francisco Franco
I ask for more time to consider your deal. I can not but help remember yours and Frances aid to my Rivals in the civil war. I will have weigh your words and see if my advisors and i agree that you are to be trusted. Also i don't think it would be wise to turn on my old allies in the Axis powers since they did help counter your influence in the War.

OOC- Yes i know Spain is incredibly wealthy compared to the rest of yall and don't get it myself. I picked Spain knowning full well it was poor. I just thought i ought to ask UK about Finland because it was an important part of the war. If UK had given me Flanders i think i would have asked him a similiar question. But i was not going to suggest he take away my money. Why? Because its money like i don't want or need that. If UK does not want to change any thing then i suggest we lay off the questions about the game and just enjoy a nice long game.

To: Generalissimo Francisco Franco of the Fascisti Spain

I think you are observing a little oddly. If you don't remember, myself and Britain enacted a quarantine of the Iberian peninsula, despite the Axis' blatant violation of this international treaty SIGNED BY THEM, we did not take action against you nor your allies. You must be having what we here in France call a "brain fart."

Trust me, the beginning treasuries were worked out to give some nations a head start which can be countered by the build up of other nations.

Take for example Russia. They've got a crap treasury at the moment, and may lose provinces, but once they get going, they'll be just as deadly as everyone else.

Also, I have five sets of orders, out of ten possible, so there will be an update tonight. So for those of you that don't have orders in, get them in soon!

I will move for people whose orders aren't in, but anyone who doesn't send orders in for three consecutive turns is booted from the game, unless they have told me why(eg; going on holiday).

Finally, if from this point on you need a reminder of your deployments, PM me and I'll reply with them.

Nemesis

Damn since I've been on the look out at horizan for a wargame to start I missed this by 4 pages....
Is there any nations left?

To: Turkey
From: Italy
Let us instead sign an DPP/MPP!

To: Germany
From: Italy
We suggest a MPP.

To: Spain
From: Italy
We suggest a DPP.

To:Italy
From:Turkey

I wholeheartedly agree with a MPP between our two great nations.I'm sure we will gain territories in the Balkans from this alliance.

To:Germany

I also offer you a MPP.

To:Spain

I offer you a DPP.

ooc: there is absolutely no reason to buy a destroyer instead of a submarine, either change cost or make destroyer better

oh and uk the part of germany(austria) that has the name südtyrol(the part that stretches into italy) was given to italy after 1918

And so was Alsasce-Lorainne respectfully given back to France.

This map is outdated but as we have learned this game isn't supposed to be 100% historical.

NEWS IN BRIEF

Turkey invades Greece!

Turkish troops invaded the undefended Balkan province of Greece(46). But they didn’t reckon on the home guard unit there, who managed to destroy one artillery division before finally being defeated.

Losses: 1 Turkish artillery division, 1 Balkan Province(46) + militia

Germany launches the Bismarck

Germany today looked on in pride as a new battleship was built. The Bismarck has 15” guns, and is heavily armoured. Reports are the Royal Navy is trying to work out some way to combat such a beast.

Build up on the Russian front - what are the Balkans up to?

Reports from the Balkan-Russian border say that there has been a huge build up of troops on that front. Balkan diplomats insist the army is simply passing through on its way to fight the “imperialistic” Turkish invaders.

Rome mobilises - but why?

Sources in Rome confirm that a big army is being prepared in Rome, but they cannot confirm any destination for the force. Rumours include that they will be sent to North Africa, but Italian officials labelled the army “a garrison force”.

All quiet on the Western front - but for how long?

Our sources confirm that Germany has sent forces to the French border, but speculate that they are simply a defence force for now. France on the other hand isn’t taking the threat lightly, and large numbers of troops are being sent to the German border.

Is the Rock about to fall?

Spanish troops today surrounded Gibraltar, in what some are referring to as a siege. The Spanish leader said the forces were there “merely for defence”.

MAP UPDATE!

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CREDITS TO SPEND

Britain has £32 to spend!

France has £26 to spend!

Spain has £23 to spend!

Italy has £27 to spend!

Germany has £32 to spend!

The Balkans have £20 to spend!

Turkey has £20 to spend!

Russia has £37 to spend!

Sweden has £10 to spend!

Switzerland has £7 to spend!

The Flanders Alliance has £7 to spend!

Good Luck to Everyone!

Nemesis

PS: For SKILORD:
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Right, each turn I will PM your deployments to you, so it is easy to send in new orders.

Also, a few rule changes/clarifications:

DESTROYERS - NOW GET A BONUS

Destroyers now get a +1 Attack and Defence bonus against submarines.

MILITIA

Yes, there are militia in this game, and they are the first unit to die. They are also the only unit in the game which MUST be killed to take a province(usually other units can be forced to retreat, a militia stays and fights to the bitter end).

But since it is fighting where the militia can't retreat, those rules come into force(instead of one die roll per unit, it continues until death for the militia, or the attacker). Once the militia is dead, then a forced defensive retreat can continue.

Nemesis

NEWS FLASH

Britain has anounced that Sea C should remain British waters, and nothing but friendly and/or trading vessels may be in the sea. If other foriegn ships are spotted, they WILL be engaged in combat.

To:President of the United Balkan States
From:Ismet Inönu,President of Turkey

We know the times of the old Ottoman Empire are gone and we don't seek control over the complete Balkans.We only want to get back this what was stolen from us in the Berlin conference 1878.So we demand Serbia (44) and Romania (55) to be under Turkish control (and of course Greece) as a 'Cordon sanitaire' to protect Turkey itself.Then we will make peace with your backward nations.

To: President Ismet Inonu of Turkey
From: The President Of The UBS
The people of Romania and Serbia will not be forced to give up their freedom to join your Imeprialistic Empire. Thsu I am afraid I shall have to decline your offer.
Further more our forces shall fight to the death to reclaim Greece from your imperial grasp.

/ooc why does the word 'imperial' get used like the worst swear word ever found in these games.
"you attacked me. i'll get you, you imperialistic imperial country you."

just curious
/ooc

Roddy: Shut up you imperialistic pig, lol ;)

To The Sultane of Turkey

Your demand of Greece from The Blakans was feacable and overlooked by Britain, but for a demand of a little less then half of their country is absurd. I may not seem to be able to aid the Balkans militarily, but they will recieve payments by Britain and possibly France if you do not stop your rediculous demands.

-Britain

PS: This sounds a lot like when Germany was demanding from cechloslovkia (SP?!?!?!) in ww2! lol

Originally posted by Jason The King
NEWS FLASH

Britain has anounced that Sea C should remain British waters, and nothing but friendly and/or trading vessels may be in the sea. If other foriegn ships are spotted, they WILL be engaged in combat.

such a claim is nonsense. Sea C shall vremain free for the use of all. The Fuher calls for this warmongering action to be repealed!

We would support the Balkan states in their war against the Turks, should it come, but only if they retract their application for an MPP with the Fascist pigdogs.

uk:

Thanx for remembering me w/ the map.

Okay, I am postponing the update till tomorrow night, cause I'm tired and there aren't really enough PMs in anyway.

So consider your moves, and the update will be done lol.

Nemesis

Originally posted by uknemesis
Okay, I am postponing the update till tomorrow night, cause I'm tired and there aren't really enough PMs in anyway.

So consider your moves, and the update will be done lol.

Nemesis

such laziness in Britain and the USVI. You Postpone the update and that moron SKILORD abolishes weekend updates on UberNES.

must be an Island thing.

Germany,

I ask, why should sea C become such a necesity for your use? How is that warmongering? You must explain a deal, if you do not accept this, but I warn you that if you dont before I can rechange my orders for my generals (orders to nem), then your ships in sea will be destroyed.

-Britain

Originally posted by Jason The King
Germany,

I ask, why should sea C become such a necesity for your use? How is that warmongering? You must explain a deal, if you do not accept this, but I warn you that if you dont before I can rechange my orders for my generals (orders to nem), then your ships in sea will be destroyed.

-Britain

I could ask the same of you!

As an Open sea it allows for Mutual defense in an unsure situation, when either of us dominates though it prompts fear of invasion. Idemand that Sea C remain open so that Britain doesn't presume to dominate my coastline and i cannot dominate hers.

France will support her steadfast ally, Britain, should the Fascist pigdog Hitler seek to cause trouble over Britain's legitimate claim to Sea C to defend itself against an openly volatile nation that seeks war with both myself and Britain. As soon as the French naval programme is completed, it well be added to the assests of it's British counterpart and aid the enforcement for security endorsed by Britain.

Britain must keep Sea C soley British waters to insure the safety of her capital, England, and London, while Berlin lays south of a sea that Britain has no need for. I am sure you understand that the British capital is much more important to Britain then normal provinces to Germany. Plus, if Britain launches an attack on your land, what good would it be to have mutual seas? If I were to attack your homeland, you wouldnt be able to stop it (if I did it secretly). If I didnt do it secretly, then you could easily violate the sea act to stop an invasion. You see, it dosnt meen much for you to have access to the sea, while it means a great deal to me to stop invasion from my capital.

-Britain

Originally posted by Toasty
France will support her steadfast ally, Britain, should the Fascist pigdog Hitler seek to cause trouble over Britain's legitimate claim to Sea C to defend itself against an openly volatile nation that seeks war with both myself and Britain. As soon as the French naval programme is completed, it well be added to the assests of it's British counterpart and aid the enforcement for security endorsed by Britain.

So you claim that because you feel that your cause is 'nobler' than mine you have the right to hold the daggar to my throat? The Aryan race will not stand for this and the Fuher reminds all that he doesn't call for Sea C to be German, only open. Germany does not in fact seek war to correct you, i only seek to maintaibn German Sovreignity and hold the Third Reich, another war would only disrupt the current Aryan projects.
I oblect to the insult of pig-dog.

France,

I appreciate your back up in the Northern Sea matter, and the Balkans matter, though I am sure you are doing what you believe is right also.

Der Fuerher would like to think he has us all fooled and that we can sit back and let him have his ways and nothing will come of it. Honestly people, the man rose to power on the promise of avenging the 2.4 million deaths caused by their aggressive war against my nation.

'A believer in appeasement is a man who gives a crocodile eveything he wants hoping it will eat him last.' Neither I nor Britain are prepared to enact such a policy. We will contain the Fascist threat that seeks to destroy all that is not alike on the continent. And, may I remind Stalin, that if France and Britain are to fall, then he will be left alone with Hitler.

If you do not seek war, why secure peace in the East while making no such attempts in the West? Why make alliances with agressors like Turkey, whom seeks to dismember the fragile Balkan states, and demand that Britain not be able to secure herself?

I'm no fool.

Signed,
President Leon Blum of France

Britain has no right to claim see C. That sea needs to be protected by german forces or otherwise germany cannot defend itself against an amphibious assault by her enemies! Italy fully gives its support to Germany and promises help incase of war.

From:Ismet Inönu

I agree with my Italian Friends,open seas are a necessity.What would Britain say if I'd close M so they could no longer reach the Suez Canal and Cyprus?I will consider such a measure if Britain does not retreat from its North Sea demand.

To:Adolf Hitler

Please reply to my MPP proposal.

To Ismut:

Your threat is nonsense to me. Cutting off my fleets from a provinces is one thing, and making a sea off limits to Germany is nother. Germany will still have full access to all it's provinces. And, if they want to move transports through, with a few escorts, all I need is a warning, and he can do it. I am not saying the sea is totally off limits, I am just saying that Britain needs to know what is going in and out, so it can be prepared for anything facing his homeland.

-Britain

To: France and Britain
From: The UBS
I thank you for your support against the aggressive Turkish state. I will also retract my MPP offer to Germany.

To: Germany
From; The UBS
In the light of recent events I would like to retract my offer of an MPP. I hope you will take no offence and I hope that you will refrain from signing an alliance with the aggressive Turkish nation. I also hope that you will accept my new offer of a NAP between our nations.

NEWS IN BRIEF

Turkey invades Serbia!

Turkey today continued their push into the Balkans by taking Serbia today. The Balkan army was heavily outnumbered, but compounded the problem by fighting poorly, killing only one of the invading divisions.

Losses: 1 Turkish infantry division, 2 Balkan infantry divisions, 1 Balkan Province(44) + militia

Bismarck sunk!

Germany ignored demands to remove the Bismarck from British waters, and this was met with a cry of “sink the Bismarck!” from the British people and government.

HMS Hood, escorted by the destroyer HMS Daring, answered this call, sailing out to the North Sea(C) to engage the enemy. As the first shells began to fall, a French battleship, Redoubtable joined in, her captain deciding to support France’s allies.

It was a complete success, Bismarck and a new German carrier, Tirpitz were sunk. The brave Daring also perished. It is not yet known whether the French captain will be rewarded or charged for his actions, but the French public are calling him a hero, as it was his shell that at last sunk the Bismarck.

Losses: 1 German battleship, 1 German carrier, 1 British destroyer

France invades the Flanders Alliance!

French troops invaded the Flanders Alliance(10) in a major U turn in their politics with the small nation. French officials were quoted as saying it was for “the Flanders Alliance’s own security”. German and Flanders politicians disagree.

But whatever the reason, the French invasion was huge. But they had not counted on the bravery of the Flanders people, who fought until the last man, and caused horrendous casualties to the French force. One infantry division even lasted into a second day of fighting.

However, the fighting damaged the capital of the Flanders Alliance, making the income from it only that of a province.

Losses: 5 French infantry divisions, 3 Flanders infantry divisions, 1 Flanders capital + militia

MAP UPDATE!

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/uknesv3.gif

CREDITS TO SPEND

Britain has £34 to spend!

France has £31 to spend!

Spain has £24 to spend!

Italy has £31 to spend!

Germany has £36 to spend!

The Balkans have £17 to spend!

Turkey has £24 to spend!

Russia has £36 to spend!

Sweden has £8 to spend!

Switzerland has £6 to spend!

Good Luck to Everyone!

Nemesis

PS: For SKILORD:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/uknesv3.gif

Map will be posted later, since it seems the upload thing isn't working well for me.

Nemesis

And now we see who peddles war!

I understand Britain's attack and am willing to settle for reparations from them.

The warmongering French who invaded the poor Flander's Alliance though this cannot be allowed.

Originally posted by Kennelly
From:Ismet Inönu

I agree with my Italian Friends,open seas are a necessity.What would Britain say if I'd close M so they could no longer reach the Suez Canal and Cyprus?I will consider such a measure if Britain does not retreat from its North Sea demand.

To:Adolf Hitler

Please reply to my MPP proposal.

I am forced to agree because of France's overzealous nature towards war.

To: Germany
From; The UBS
In the light of recent events I would like to retract my offer of an MPP. I hope you will take no offence and I hope that you will refrain from signing an alliance with the aggressive Turkish nation. I also hope that you will accept my new offer of a NAP between our nations.

It is Accepted, an NAP is in place.

France,

What is it in your wine that makes your tempers flare so, destroying innocents to get to me. The ends do not justify the means and you are easily being as evil as you claim i am.

uk: There is currently war where? between France and i yes and britain, although i wish to calm the United Kingdom. I see their point and wish for peace.

If you wish war, then you'll have to fight both me and Britain.

I would like to make aware to Britain that Flanders was taken so that her fleets could be safe from German Luftwaffe planes should they (inevitably) choose to invade me, and also sent our great battleship Redoubtable to aid their cause.

At any rate, we will not go further than Flanders. It is pointless and only gets us embroiled in offensive. The taking of the province was purely defencive both in its motives and its ends.

We will not set foot on German soil until a soldier crosses our border,

France,

Although I wished that I was warned before the attack on Flanders Alliance, it was neccessy for both France's and Britain's homeland defense. As for the Bismark - I greatly appreciate France's aid, for without it the British might not have succeeded.

-Britain

Germany,

Although I wish we could remain peaceful, a war with France is a war with Britain. The sinking of your fleet is the consequence for your ignorance in not removing it from British waters. Your ships will continually be sunk if you do not meat my demands, and make peace with France.

-Britain

Italy,

I wish to remain peaceful towards your nation, and am offering your a NAP. This of course would be void if you were to attack France.

-Britain

To Balkans,

Hold out a little longer. Help is on the way.

-Britain

To:Leon Blum
From:Ismet Inönu

"Purely for defence".Yes,of course.
The Balkans have always been instable since we were forced to leave,so the people of Serbia and Greece will fair better under our democratic rule.But the Benelux-States were peaceful and prospering and you only invaded them because of your enormous greed.

To:Winston Churchill

I'm not surprised you butcher support the greedy French.

To:Adolf Hitler

I'm glad you accepted my offer.Together with Italy we will show Brtish and French their frontier.

To: Britain and France
From: Italy
And you call Germany a warmongering fool? Beware, you have probably started that you do not master.

I offer peace, I promise to end expansion and merely maintain the third Reich and i am ignored before i can prove myself!

I'm sorry about the Fleet i meant to move it.....

To British Government Employees that it may concern:

I am honestly sorry that you cannot see that peace is almost always the best course of Action. I hope that your nation, after I have overrun it becomes great again, but sadly your current war crazed government must be destroyed. I bless the British people and with a heavy heart must go about demolishing their army, Navy and government.

Dearest Italy and Ottomans:

I thank you my freinds for your support against the Allied Agressors. May your troops fight well.

Not so Dear France:

Thank you for bringing me into the light! Conquest brings about safety, of course! What a fool i was to think that we could co-exist peacefully and i shall have to conqure you, just as you did The Flanders alliance, for the protection of the Reich and to allow for a future of maintained peace.

i went through the thread, and this is the alliences i found that have been signed 'officialy'
i think there is an assumed one between italy and germany, and i aint sure about britains mpp with switzerland cause i think it had 'conditions' on it that were not sattisfied.
i'll update it later if there are 'alot' of changes

To: Germany

If you are willing to make peace now, we will accept it.

To Germany,

Since you Germans (purely in game) do not comprehend the trageties of war from WWI, looks like I will have to teach it to you again! If you do not want peace now, prepare for war!

Churchill

To Russia,

Do you not see the ill-treatement of other nations by Germany? Won't you side with the good, and fight Germany and her allies? Together, France you and I will be able to once again bring peace to Europe.

Churchill

To Churchill of England
From Stalin of Russia

i am sorry, but as an outside observer in the happenings of europe, i see it a little diferently then you do.
so far there have been only a few conflicts and germany has been an 'aggressor' in none of them.
1. the turks have taken territory from the bulkans, but as my country can only benefit from the fighting of its neighbors, i will not interefere.
side note to the bulkan states- will you accept a NAP?
2. the english and french have sunk a couple of german ships. the english and the germans both claimed the North sea as their own, there was a fight and the british proved that their claim is stronger. if the two of you escalate that skirmish into a war then you will both be the worse for it.
3. the french conquer the peaceful Flanders (/ooc bet Homer Simpson war REAL happy to see the Flanderses attacked). what ever reasons the french give, it is still an attack against a peacefull nation. it is far away from me that i realy dont care what you guys are up to over there, so i wont hold it against france.

as you can proly tell from the tone of my....summary, i am an isolationist. i have enough problems dealing with all the traitors in my own country to start worrying about european afairs.

/ooc UK, ill send orders in a few minutes. its not midnight your time yet, right?

Russia:

I agree with you about the French attack against Flanders Alliance was wrong, but I must stand with my ally. To add to it, France did it for England, so that the German Lufwaffa (sp?) wouldnt be able to reach England if war arose, which it looked like it would. So you see, I can't condemn France for only trying to help England, although if he asked, I would have said no.

About the Balkans war: You are as much as an aggressor if you do NOT help. A peaceful nation is being overran for no reason, and you do nothing. I hope you contious catches up with you and you aid the Balkans, if not for me and France, do it for the Greeks, then Macedonians, and all the other people who live in the land.

Britain

Germany has 24 hours to respond to our peace offering. If no such response is recieved, war between Germany and France will become a grim reality.

Germany is more than happy to make peace.

But not with France, their hypocrisy and evil cannot be tolerated.

Very well then. May this be a good and friendly gentleman's war; we are not interested in German soil. However, we are not shy to putting a few of them on ice ;),

Upon Germany's hypocritical refusal of a white peace with France, we are forced to war. We may now see the true Germany, for he had nothing to lose by signing the peace, and everything to gain by going to war.

But, we shall see how it goes. Best of luck, herr Hitler.

Germany,

As much as I would like to make peace with you, I will have to stand by my ally. You had a chance to sign for peace, but you didn't take it, and now everyone can see that is just as bad as attacking the Flanders Alliance. Even if you pledged for peace and state that France leave the Flanders Alliance land, you did not do it. May Europe frown upon you.

-Britain

To:Adolf Hitler
From:Ismet Inönu

If you request my help,I will declare war upon Britain and France.

To:Leon Blum and Winston Churchill.

I won't be happy when London and Paris are burned,but I will be happy when you are hung in front of the Reichstag.

To:Adolf Hitler
From:Ismet Inönu

If you request my help,I will declare war upon Britain and France.

To:Leon Blum and Winston Churchill.

I won't be happy when London and Paris are burned,but I will be happy when you are hung in front of the Reichstag.

To:Adolf Hitler
From:Ismet Inönu

If you request my help,I will declare war upon Britain and France.

To:Leon Blum and Winston Churchill.

I won't be happy when London and Paris are burned,but I will be happy when you are hung in front of the Reichstag.

dam, a TRIPLE post. Kennelly, you getting carried away. lol

oh, and update your sig, please. that just confused the hell out of me when i read it.

Right, I was going to do the update today, but I still need orders from Toasty, SKILORD and Dexter.

Also from the neutral nations Sweden and Switzerland(Switzerland is out if I don't get orders this turn).

Update will be tomorrow afternoon my time, then if people start getting orders in quickly enough, updates will return to normal.

Nemesis

Okay, I have all orders, the update is half done. I'll finish it when I get home tomorrow.

As Roddy can tell you(been talking on AIM for a few mins) I'm rushed off my feet at the moment.

Nemesis

NEWS IN BRIEF

War on the Western Front!

French troops crossed into the Rhineland today after the declaration of war between Germany and France. Supported by the Redoubtable’s shore bombardment of Hamburg, they took the Germans by surprise and successfully conquered this industrial heartland of Germany.

Losses: 1 French infantry division, 1 German tank division, 1 German Province(35) + militia

Germany fights back!

German bombers from the 1st Luftwaffe Bomber Squadron crossed the French border and bombed military outposts in reprisal for the attack on the Rhineland. One French infantry division was wiped out by sustained bombardment.

Losses: 1 French infantry division.

The Rock falls!

British morale has plummeted to an all time low after Gibraltar finally fell to the Spanish after a prolonged siege. The Spanish leader called this a “victory for the people of Gibraltar, finally they are returned to their true nation”.

Losses: 1 Spanish infantry division, 1 British province(18) + militia

Montgomery strikes again!

Bernard Montgomery, the famous British general today won another great success for them in Africa, triumphing over a superior Italian force with the 8th Army, otherwise known now as just the African Militia.

The King of Britain described this victory as a “great victory in Britain’s time of need”.

Losses: 1 Italian tank division, 1 British militia

The Balkans on the offensive!

In their first offensive move against Turkey, the Balkan troops invaded Bulgaria, dangerously close to Istanbul, the Ottoman Turk capital. A massive artillery bombardment badly shook the defenders, then the invaders rushed in. The defenders were overwhelmed, with only a fighter squadron escaping to Serbia(44) to fight another day.

Losses: 2 Balkan infantry divisions, 3 Turkish tank divisions, 1 Turkish infantry division, 1 Turkish province(47) + militia

The Turks go for the throat of the Balkans!

The Turkish invasion of the Balkans today struck straight towards the heart of the alliance, aiming for an area bordering the Balkan capital.

But the defenders held on, and with the ground majority of two infantry to one tank division at the end of the first day, the invasion was forced back into Serbia(44).

Losses: 4 Turkish tank divisions, 3 Turkish infantry divisions, 4 Balkan infantry divisions, 1 Balkan artillery division, 1 Balkan militia.

MAP UPDATE!

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/uknesv4.gif

CREDITS TO SPEND

Britain has £31 to spend!

France has £32 to spend!

Spain has £26 to spend!

Italy has £32 to spend!

Germany has £29 to spend!

The Balkans have £28 to spend!

Turkey has £20 to spend!

Russia has £35 to spend!

Sweden has £8 to spend!

Switzerland has £5 to spend!

Good Luck to Everyone!

Nemesis

PS: For SKILORD:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/uknesv4.gif

IceEye, clear out your inbox and PM me when you have, I'll reply with your deployments(please do this before sending orders since your units aren't in the exact positions you requested due to movement rules etc).

Eowyn of Rohan is out of the game for now, he can rejoin, but for now Switzerland is once again a neutral nation.

That's what happens if you don't get orders in for 3 turns without telling me a reason for not being able to.

Nemesis

Originally posted by Jason The King
Germany,

As much as I would like to make peace with you, I will have to stand by my ally. You had a chance to sign for peace, but you didn't take it, and now everyone can see that is just as bad as attacking the Flanders Alliance. Even if you pledged for peace and state that France leave the Flanders Alliance land, you did not do it. May Europe frown upon you.

-Britain

Like hell!

Europe can see that you sink my ships, Invade my neighbors and do as you please and will not LEAVE ME ALONE!

Who invaded may i ask? was it that bully of a Reich or the French, continuing the conquest of Flanders with a move into Germany! You say you are protecting yourselves constantly.... from what? I have repeatedly vowed not to attack, i wanted to build a defense force for my reunited Empire and live in peace in the Pursuit of Technological goals.

You have caused the deaths of Millions by your Invasions and pure hatred of my nation, I beg God to have mercy on their souls.

Very well then. May this be a good and friendly gentleman's war; we are not interested in German soil. However, we are not shy to putting a few of them on ice ,

Upon Germany's hypocritical refusal of a white peace with France, we are forced to war. We may now see the true Germany, for he had nothing to lose by signing the peace, and everything to gain by going to war.

But, we shall see how it goes. Best of luck, herr Hitler.

You have no interest in my soil! Ha! you can never trust the French! What have i to gain through war? death? Loss? Invasion? French pigs in the Rhineland?

To:Adolf Hitler
From:Ismet Inönu

If you request my help,I will declare war upon Britain and France.

I beg for your Help my Turkish freinds.

Germany, as always, we are willing to make peace.

Germany,

You must really be stupid (in game!!). I did not attack anyone, but was attacked by YOUR allies! Have you not any sense? I DID NOT ATTACK ANYONE, I WAS ATTACKED! Get your facts straight, Hitler!

-Britain

Italy,

I ask you again, why would you want pursuit into my land in Africa?

-Britain

Spain,

I am appaled, and VERY angry in your attack. Things could have been worked out for your peaceful take over of Gibraltar, Why was thier peaceful plea for it first?

-Britain

France,

Congratulations in your victory over the stupidity of the Reich. Because of the German ignorance and his allies attacks, you will see British help next turn.

-Britain

Spain,

I also would like to delcare peace, now that you have taken what you wanted. How does this sound?

-Britain

uk: can militia move? I mean I defeated the militia of the african province and then my tank was killed by another militia?

To: Turkey
From: The United Balkan States
Subj: Peace
If you leave Serbia and Greece immediately and return them to the UBS then we shall grant peace and refrain from crushing Istanbul. We shall also in turn return Bulgaria to you.
Do we have a deal?

To:UBS
From:Turkey

No we haven't.As Greece directly borders Istanbul province it is absolutely necessary for my security.

Originally posted by IceEye
uk: can militia move? I mean I defeated the militia of the african province and then my tank was killed by another militia?

No militia can't move, your tank division was destroyed by the militia that it killed(your fighting decimated both units basically).

That means you couldn't take over the province.

And since militia respawns, your gonna have to fight them again next turn should you invade again.

Nemesis

so basically that militia loss means nothing?

Uh huh.

Nemesis

when's the update.......

When I have a few more than the 4 orders I currently have... I'm gonna give people till tomorrow night to get orders in cause of the forum downtime.

Nemesis

Nemesis. I am sorry if you don't have my orders casue ya ain't gonna get them in time. Cause i don't get home till after most updates. So i hope you have them i can't remember if i sent them.

im completely confused. ithink i'm in too many of this type of games. what turn are we on?

I'm going to be closing this NES I'm afraid, my heart was never really in it.

Instead, the UKNES6 discussion will begin, and I promise it will be the best UKNES yet.

Nemesis