Welcome Bohemians and other lesser peoples...

[flag will go here]

This is the home of the nation's greatest province,
The Capital Province of Bohemia!!
I am The Governor, Almightyjosh. I represent all the citizens of our great province in the Senate and elsewhere in our land and government.

Though for the initial stages of our development we will need to focus on the millitary, it is my vision that one day the Province of Bohemia will be a haven for science and the arts as well as a centre for production and finance.


City Mayors:
Bavaria (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31559) - Disorganiser

Build Queues:
Bavaria - Settler [C:3], Barracks, Archer, Spearman, Archers x 4
Build Queue Discussion (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31380).

Civil Actions:
The worker to the NW should build roads and mines on the best grassland squares. (2f1s0t -> 2f2s1t)

Millitary Actions:
At least one warrior or spearman should be garrisoned in Bavaria.

Naming:
The mountain next to our capital will be Mount Victory.


Victory for Bohemia!!
*sheds a nostalgic tear*

Edition 1: 7/11

Bohemia Cometh!!
The founding of the city of Bavaria means that the Governor now has a province to govern. Our city is located to the south of a great sea. Although we are not on the coast, there is a small freshwater lake nearby. The mountain that looms above us has optomistically been named Mount Victory and the forests that surround us, the Doughnut Forests.
Bohemia (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31196)

Debate on Build Queues Rages
There has been a ot of debate on what our province should concentrate on building. Some believe we should build up a millitary quickly, while others want expansion and the founding of other cities. Currently the plan is to esablish a second city in Bohemia before sending out our armies across the continent.
Build queues in Bohemia (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31380)
Expansion (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31179)
Agression (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31100)

Law, or something like it
The Governor has proposed a new system of Provincial Law. This system would be subordinate to National Law and operate in Bohemia only. The first draft contains guidelines for the establishment of a Capital, Mayors, an Assisstant Governor and a Provincial Council. It is hoped that these guidelines will win support and be implemented to our greater good.
Provincial Law (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31555)

Lord Mayor DOA
Dead on Arrival? No, DisOrgAnizer (ok, lame joke). Dis has been appointed Lord Mayor of Bavaria. This makes him the first Mayor of our nation and the second member of the soon to be established Provincial Council. Disorganiser has got straight to work gathering information and ideas from the citizens of Bavaria. A discussion on citizen moods has been started.
Bavaria Citizen Moods (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31587)
Bavaria City (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31559)

Be There and Be Square
Fanatika square in the heart of Bavaria has opened and a number of buisnesses have erected huts or stuck a stick in the ground. The foundations of our financial district are firmly in place. A special piece of flint was used to saw through the ribbon in the opening ceremony. The National Bank of Bavaria has also been established for loans and buisness transactions.
Fanatika Square (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31515)
Bank of Bavaria (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31378)


Bohemian Times Archives (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31622)

Citizens of Note
Almightyjosh - Governor of Bohemia
Disorganiser - Lord Mayor of Bavaria

City Histories:
(mayorial contribution encouraged)

Bavaria
Founded on a lake in a lush pine forest, Bavaria is our capital and the home of civilisation. Though it is a mere collection of huts now, there are signs of a greater future to come. Fanatika Square, now nothing but a patch of dirt, yearns for open air markets and towers of marble and gold. The flames of the campfire around which we meet soar up to the heavens and the sharmans sing of great halls of clear stone and gleaming beasts without legs. Bavaria, the cradle of our civilisation and our home.

Congratulations Almightyjosh.
I officialy apply for the position of mayor in our first city.
I would offer to maintain a city thread with updated pictures and a closeup map of the city.
I would also promise to hold open discussion for all build queues among the citizenry, and never to complain if you deny setting them up ;-)
I also promise to defend our province with all of my faith, and never to do anything which would put the province or the people living there in danger or act against them ;-)

does this have anything to do with the song
"Bohemian like you"

I'll be the mayor of the capital if the governor so chooses. :)

ct: no. you cant just define it :-P
Its up to the governor to proclaim it.
I propose having an election for it :-P

And btw:
Maybe we even comply to the city-state provincial design, so mayors wont be needed at the start.

I never proclaimed, I just meant that I would be willing to do so if the governor chooses.

Ah! So i propose our mighty governor will put up a citizen poll for that one! Any other nominations?
I nominate donsig, btw ;-)

ARGH! For the last time, it's QUEUE!! QUEUE!! Not, que, not QUEUE!!

Got that out of my system...
I second donsig's nomination. Call it a consolation prize, after he was beat in two elections. He was the governor of Fox Nest, as I recall.

One more thing, Josh, but it might not matter. I'm compiling a list of names that officials want to name their cities. We might not get to you, since your at the bottom of the CoC. However, just so we have it on record, what do you plan on naming your city?

ARGH! For the last time, it's QUEUE!! QUEUE!! Not, que, not QUEUE!!

?
well, its queue, not queue? not what is it?

Mistah Guv'nor of Bohemia sah! The Ministry of War would like to draw your attention to this proposed poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=464868#post464868) and hear your thoughts on it. We hope it will meet with your approval!

*salutes and marches away*

Originally posted by disorganizer
I nominate donsig, btw ;-)

And I second disorganizer's nomination. I'm not sure if I'll accept my nomination. I had wanted to move to the frontier in the first game but ended up being mayor of the capital the whole game. Don't really want to do the same thing this time around. Besides, I want to move south where it's warmer. ;)

I am also willing to be mayor of the capital.:D

i second eyreis nominaion! so we have a 3 person runup! great! this will be even more exciting than the president election and im excited to break the votecount of it ;-)

bohemia? what happend to tuscany? good name, anyways, sounds farmilar. just sayin, pardon the explosive noises in the hut on the right. im just experimenting with this odd ore i found in the mountains.

Please post any turn chat instructions (if applicable) in this thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31180) for tonight's game.

The build queue here is for the 6th, there has been alot of debate about this and this queue contains the best elements of most plans, it is open to discussion. If I might do something novel for a governor and give my reasons...
The two warriors (we have 1 already) will give us flexibility in exploration and defence, especially as the Aztecs are close.
The two settlers will be able to move quickly to fertile lands nearby and secure some vital pasture and spice.
The barracks is to start off the building of an army to go agressive early.
The archer is the start of that strike force (I don't expect we will get to it)

How about a mayor-election for "Bavaria"?
We have some applications in here, and i think a public election would suit the capitol best ;-)

I'd like to remove a settler. If we go wishy-washy trying to both build a civ and build a quick strike force we will lose on both fronts.

No what about skipping the barracs for having more archers up quick?

Like warrior-warrior-settler-archer-archer-settler-archer-archer?
Or maybe a spearman in between for defence?

Theres no point breaking up our archer production, they will be used all at once and should be produced all at once.
I don't mind the idea of eliminating the barracks, though it is nice to have veterans...

I still think we should go with 2 settlers straight up, both these cities could then start pumping out archers. We should move quickly to take advantage of the space around us.

I think we should spawn the build queue discussion into a citizen-subforum discussion thread. We could keep it ongoing as the first turns evolve.

We should now concentrate on the points:
* mayor for bavaria
* flag
* how can we implement rpg in our province?
to give our province a spirit ;-)

Originally posted by Almightyjosh
Theres no point breaking up our archer production, they will be used all at once and should be produced all at once.
I don't mind the idea of eliminating the barracks, though it is nice to have veterans...

No man......CRANK OUT!!

Please conduct all further discussion on build queues in this thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31380).
Thankyou

Ok, so we can now moove to the next topic on the plan:
MAYOR FOR BAVARIA!

I think nominees in alphabetical order are:
* chieftess
* disorganizer
* donsig
* eyrei

did i forget someone?
i think a public poll should decide.

will we also get a deputy governor for this province? or shall a mayorial council of all mayors of this province run it when the governor is absent?

i would like to propose the following:

* name the mountain "Mr. Victory" instead of "Victory Mountain"
* name the bay north of the capitol (propably an ocean bay?) (the bay includes the 1 tile water patch in the direct north and will continue a bit along the coastline) "Cow Bay", as we have a cow-resource nearby.

I was just gearing up to suggest "Black Forest" for the contiguous forested tiles :) :)

Doughnut Forest works too, though.

Victory Mountain seems too cocky. How about Mt. New Hope?

I also propose "Bohemian Coastal Range" for the mountains/hills near the shore.

And one more, I propose "Lake Chieftess" for the pond.

I propose that the mountain SE of Bavaria be named "Mt Spice" as it was from its lofty peaks that we first sighted the precious substance. :)

Congrats Gov'na!!

Since no one has seconded CT, I second CT!! there, I said it.
About the flag..oh yeah!...can I make one??

Ehecatl Atzin

Hmmm. Governor? You here? What about mayor-elections?

I do not wish to run for mayor. Bavaria is a fine city but I'm looking forward to the outlands where I can dabble in land speculation, mineral rights and all that fun stuff. :)

Announcement:

Hear ye, here ye.
The Governor of the province has decreed that henceforth, the citizen known as disorganizer shall be the Mayor of the city Bavaria.

[/roleplay]
As donsig has now pulled out, dis is the only person without other large commtments. Thus I will not be polling the Mayorial position but appointing it.

MAYORIAL GUIDELINES, BOHEMIA
In Bohemia, a mayor may be relieved of office in two ways only:
1) By a simple majority of non-abstaining voters in an official poll sponsored by the current governor.
2) By the decree of the current governor. Any citizen may lobby or poll to try and convince the gov. to do this, but this will not be binding.

The Mayor has a number of privilages:
1) May gain a +10 bonus to demogame salary
2) May speak with authority on Build Queues
3) May sponsor an official poll on build ques if the Gov does not object*
4) May claim the title Lord Mayor (for provincial capital) or Mayor (for other cities) and claim any benefits therein
5) Can reccomend persons to the governor for temporary or permanent tasks/jobs of any kind.

and responsibilities:
1) Must maintain a thread for the city
2) Must attempt to retain/attract citzens to the city
3) Must promote RPG interests in the city
4) Must seek to discover citizen will and be accountable to citizens in his/her city.

The current governor may alter, add or remove any guidelines at any time at his/her own discretion.

End Guidelines


*to clarify, a mayor can make a request to poll on build queues at any time. If the gov rejects this poll, then it may proceed but only be informational. If the governor:
A) supports the poll, or
B) offers no opinion for 36 hours (ie absent)
Then the poll may proceed and be OFFICCIAL and BINDING to tht governor and the DP may take this into account. The mayor may post this queue in the t/c instructions if the gov is still absent at the time the poll result is determined.
Any citizens may post a build queue at any time, but it will be considered only informational.

This system means that Mayors have the ability to influence build queues in their city, but the elected governor has discretion. Also, in any situation when the Governor may be absent, buildques may still be altered. (i wrote these guidelines with all provinces and govs in mind, not just myslef)

Originally posted by disorganizer
i would like to propose the following:

* name the mountain "Mr. Victory" instead of "Victory Mountain"
* name the bay north of the capitol (propably an ocean bay?) (the bay includes the 1 tile water patch in the direct north and will continue a bit along the coastline) "Cow Bay", as we have a cow-resource nearby.

Well, Mr. Victory might be a bit strange....
I did intend to name it Mount Victory, not Victory Mountain and I have asked Octavian to correct my mistake.

I also meant Mt. Vicrory ;-) Dont know where the r came from...

Im also a bit surprised (positively) by my appointment, but i thank you very much for the trust you put in me.
And as mayor i would like to recommend eyrei as acting=backup governor for the province. I also would like to recommend donsig as chat representative of the province.
With that, the possibility of the capitol province being left alone is null. We will have 2 backups for you, both often at the chat. As such, our beloved province will surely be well represented there.

We will have to reread the rules, but i think the possibility of an acting governor is in there, and as such we could appoint one (he will get 30g/tc).

I will put up a city thread as soon as i get home... stay tuned.

I will be appointing an assistant governor when the province grows somewhat. I'm gonna go through the Asphinxia archives to find my rule-dogeing formula for appointing a quasi-depudy.
Love the fact you've jumped straight in there and used Mayorial privilage #5 in your first post!

I also think having a chat-rep will be good anyways. He will not have rights in forum, but can represent the province in the chat ;-)

A job for the acting governor could also be to look after cities without mayor or to take over if mayors drop out. Maybe even point mayors to things he notices.

EDIT: nevermind this message...

I applaud Governor AJ for appointing dis to the mayorship. He needs something to keep him out of trouble ;)

hehe.. last time dis was mayor, a city revolted. ;)

Originally posted by Chieftess
hehe.. last time dis was mayor, a city revolted. ;)

Can your city revolt if it's the only city? Wait, actually, I don't want to know :)

It would be a revolution then... But i never revolted... Where do you all get your info from? Asphinxia, revolting cities, and other things.... i cant find those in our history *hint*

after a review of our production centre, i found a possible error in the build queues we chose. please review this post:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=473525#post473525

I don't think Irrigation will help our grasslands very much at this point. Under despotism, we lose the bonus that it provides so what would be the point? We could mine the grasslands and get the shield bonus. Would you reconsider your worker orders? Also, every shield can pay huge dividends early on, so what do you think about using the worker to make improvements full-time without exploring?

Down with Bavaria!!!!!!!! Down with Bohemia!!!!!!!!!!!!:sniper: :ak47: Long live revolution!!!!! Independence to South Bohemia!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Death to Fanatika!!!!!!!

Hmmm. You made three pointless posts. If you post anything else that is not obviously constructive in the demogame forums again you will take a 2 week vacation.

Originally posted by brownbomber
Down with Bavaria!!!!!!!! Down with Bohemia!!!!!!!!!!!! Long live revolution!!!!! Independence to South Bohemia!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Death to Fanatika!!!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:
If you keep on like that I'll have to make you a mayor!!
Isn't that right dis? ;)

Originally posted by Octavian X

One more thing, Josh, but it might not matter. I'm compiling a list of names that officials want to name their cities. We might not get to you, since your at the bottom of the CoC. However, just so we have it on record, what do you plan on naming your city?

Bottom of the COC, ~grumble~... we'll just see who's laughing when I storm the courts with an army of Bavarian spearmen...

I want to name my city 'needs-a-name'. Suck on that COC lover guy.

Josh: you are allowed to rename a city in the first weeks. So why dont you rename bavaria to n/a?
Thats what i call using the gaps in the rules :-)

And to the revolution: I already have requested from the fanatikan knights to find this guy and bring him to the prison.

@cp: irrigation?!?
when then i would mine it if we talk of the same grassland... 2 food + 1 shield now? will be 2/2 after mining.

i have already proposed a tech queue with a quick route to monarchy. irrigation for the grasslands would i believe be best.

we will need a high production output for bavaria quick. so mining another 2f1s grassland will be needed. settler production will propably go to another city, so food and irrigation will mostly be needed there imho.
please redirect the tile-workage and citizen assignments on the bavarian lands to the discussion thread i opened for this issue.

please governor, look regularly into this thread:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31587

for worker assignments you should put into the orders.
thanks.

AJ. Just so you know, some of your instructions were over-ridden in chat. Since irrigating grasslands have no effect in despotism, the worker may have started on a mine instead of irrigation, as you put in the instructions thread.

Please let me be mayor

does this assertain to the game? the mayors already been apointed.

Originally posted by brownbomber
Please let me be mayor

Brownbomber, There is already a Mayor. Next time, Please check the status of the Demogame Citizens before posting to say that you want a possition that has already been filled.

brownbomber: cou could of course apply for city#2 as soon as it is founded.

AJ, please notice the discussion:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=478287#post478287
As it concerns the provincial borders of bohemia.

I request that the governor also post build queues for our 2nd city, which will most likely be built on turn 7. 1 or 2 builds would be needed to prevent an empty queue.

Originally posted by Chieftess
I request that the governor also post build queues for our 2nd city, which will most likely be built on turn 7. 1 or 2 builds would be needed to prevent an empty queue.

Good idea - I just wonder, will our second city officially be part of Bohemia?

<sarcasm>Ok, let's make every city a province then. ;)</sarcasm> Cities will be where ever the provincial borders fall. We're right next to the coast, and there could be another land feature running below the mountain range.

Just quickly, Almihgtyjosh, I respectfully respect that you name the small lake next to Bavaria 'Trout Lake.'

Thank you.

There was a suggestion on the table (by me) that the small lake be named Lake Chieftess :-)

i second the motion in favour of "lake chieftess" in grateful recognition of her just and wise leadership in these formative times.

Originally posted by Chieftess
<sarcasm>Ok, let's make every city a province then. ;)</sarcasm> Cities will be where ever the provincial borders fall.

But we are supposed to define the provincial borders before we build new cities. That way when the cities are built we know which province they are in.

Right now we have no official provincial borders so our second city will not be in any province!

I was going under the assumption that until we define the borders to *other* provinces, all cities are in Bohemia.

i will be absent from the forum from Tuesday to Friday...
i give full controll over all bavarian matters to the governor until my reappearance-notice.

i request the temporary removal of me from the position of the mayor of bavaria.

i injured my hand (should have bought the "protection license" from the cosa fanatika for my pub) and as such i cant type in the amount i would need for a good running of the city thread.

im sorry to disappoint you, dearest governor, and i hope i can come back to my position later when my hand is ok again.

Originally posted by Danke
I was going under the assumption that until we define the borders to *other* provinces, all cities are in Bohemia.

Do you know what happens when you assume?

Originally posted by disorganizer
i will be absent from the forum from Tuesday to Friday...
i give full controll over all bavarian matters to the governor until my reappearance-notice.

It's the Aztecs I say! The Aztecs! :D

*looks at her hand and SKI's hand*

Originally posted by donsig


Do you know what happens when you assume?

You make an ass out of Ume? ;)

Originally posted by Danke


You make an ass out of Ume? ;)

Maybe of U, but not of me ;)
puntastic

Anyway...
Dis has resinged, about which I am most dissapointed, but I understand. I will soon be appointing new mayors to both Bavaria (temp) and Valhall (provisionsal), so apply now!!

btw, the temp Mayor will step down at Dis's return and the Mayor of Valhall is an appointment provisional on the city being in Bohemia!!

*Octavian X eagerally applies for Valhall's mayorship:D

Regrettalby I must follow diorganiser and resign from this position. For a more in depth and poetic resignation see the citizen sub forum. I apologise to all the citizens of Bohemia, it is a matter beyond my control.

Originally posted by Almightyjosh
Regrettalby I must follow diorganiser and resign from this position.

Who is going to be the new govenor when AJ resigns? I know I would like to carry the Almightyjosh's torch for victory :). I would like to apply to fill in the for Govenor of Bohemia.

PS. To the Judiciary office: Is it possible for someone with a deputy satus to hold a possition of Govenor?

CivGeneral - Yes, you could hold both positions. Deputy's aren't leaders so you can be both a leader (governor) and a deputy.

Thanks Shaitan ;)

I would be happy to fill in the govenor possition :). Dont worry Almightyjosh, Ill take care of the provance as if it was my own :).

i would like to enter my candidacy as well. though i have no doubt that civgeneral would make an upstanding governor. aj showed a faith in me that i would like to the opportunity to prove justified. you are all familiar with my enthusiasm for provincial government, so i wont harp on it. i implore the citizens of bohemia, show the same faith in me that my great mentor, the Almightyjosh, did. I officially nominate myself for Governor of the Province of Bohemia!

A note to CivGeneral and neutral leader: The governor position is filled via appointment. Specifically, the president appoints a new governor and her candidate must be accepted by the Council. Citizens only vote for Leaders during elections.

Ok, I will choose Neutral Leader, and start the council vote.

you have my undying gratitude ct. dankschön, doomo arigatou gozaimasu! i really appreciate this opportunity to honour my sempai. i promise not to let you down!

Since there is no absolute quorum in the council vote. The Domestic Department shall run the province till A) a replacement is found or B) until after the elections are done and the governor-elect takes over on the first. The constitution allows for this if there are complaints.

NOTICE: i will be accepting build queue suggestions at least for the next turn chat, please post them here or in the domestic thread

We bent the rules to allow the election of a governor in the first place. It is absoulutely essential that a new governor be chosen, and with speed! We need the Senate.

I, therefore, believe that the domestic department holds no authority over build queues for the province. We should count AJ as the governor until a new one is appointed and approved by the council.

the elections are 6 days away Octavian, i dont see any senate decisions between that time and if there are they can be put off til the time comes. Domestic does have authority to run this province til a new governor is chosen. Dont trust domestic to make the right choice? Besides i did do a good job as a governor in the last demogame for my short tenure

Fionn is correct. If there had never been a governor, Domestic would be in charge of build queues anyway. The rule is that the Domestic Leader handles all cities without a governor. Since the governor resigned all of our cities are without a governor.

Besides, what if no one is satisfied with the appointed governors? If we let the build queue run out, then we're at the whim of the AI governor. :)

before my great mentor, the almightyjosh, left us, he had given me his blessing. he had spent much of his distinguished career selflessly trying to further mine. i would like the opportunity to honour his memory by serving as the governor of bohemia. i believe he would have wanted it that way. please give me your support and remember, a vote for me is a vote for aj.

Currently our worker is building a road on the game resource, and would soon be connected to where the Proposed city sight #1 would be at. This is unnessicary since it would prevent us from building warriors and upgrading them for a cheper cost. The best and efficiant plan is to build the city on sight #1 were it would be build under the iron resource, as noted in the Settler placement poll, (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32576) and construct a barracks but leave it unconected from the main network road. The capital should build warriors and sent it to the newly settled city on sight #1 for upgrades. This is much cheper and faster way of producing swordsmen insted of just building the swordsmen right through.
Whith that in mind the worker has enough time to go south and construct a road to the spices in order to collect it when Barvaria's borters grow and expand

This is a very good idea. This could time a sword rush to follow neatly on the heels of our archer assault.

I agree, and having the second string of swordsmen will be critical to the mopping up actions or to defend against a backlash attack or civs ganging up on us.

This is also discussed in the citizen forum under the title "strategy change". We maybe should discuss there further.
An urgent decission is needed, so we need to streamline this discussion!

LINK to further discussion:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32846

theres a reason that mans a general!

(slams boombox down on the office desk)
*the boys are back in town* *the boys are back in to-own*
all right, my first day on the job; lets lay down some groundrules:
1. the first person to call me "sir" or any other silly title gets fired
2. the door is always open, and questions, comments, suggestions, complaints, or comments containing personal abuse are welcome
3. once the legislation allowing lt. governors to be the runner-up passes, i will make democracy game history by making the lt. governor be abstain. any attempt to challenge this decision will be met with merciless off-topic rants about modular furniture manufacturing in denmark
thats it for now, everyone please start posting again in here as it has remained a fallow thread for some time. looking forward to hearing from you!

Or perhaps you would care to start a Term 2 thread, to avoid confusion? Congrats on your election triumph, btw :)

Congrats to our new governor Neutral Leader!

Loved the intro, NL, but you definately need your own thread...

Ok. I will like to see you fire the Domestic Leader "SIR". Do you have your build queues ready?

i fire zarn from the domestic ministry (or at least recommend it). as for a new thread i will put one up at the earliest opportunity. build queues will be up shortly.

Ty Neutral Leader

I'll apply for mayor for the city of Bremerhaven. Cyc told me to do that in this thread.
What are the exact functions of a mayor?

Right thread, wrong term. Try this thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35415) instead. :)