This secnario takes place in 1500, when the european sea powers were beggining their expansion through the world. The Iberian Union(Spain+Portugal) is the strongest and largest empire in the world, and England and France are only beggining to expand.
This is how the world is divided:

Iberian Union
France
England
Holy Empire
Republic of Venice
Low Nations
Scandinavia
Russia
Ottoman Empire
Sultanate of Egypt
African Nations
India
China
Japan
Aztecs
Incans

I decided that all Italy should be under the rule of the Republic of Venice, since in that time they actually held political power over the papal states and other minor principalites.

Iberian Union is the human player, but its easy to change it using the editor. I think its fun to play with any of the sea powers, and its also fun to play with the Holy Empire, Scandinavia or the Republic of Venice, because they are struggling to keep their status as world powers. To play as Russia, Egypt or the Ottoman Empire would be a challenge. To play as China India or Japan would be a huge challenge, and to play with African Nations, Aztecs or Incans would be a enormous challenge.

This is version 2.0
This is what changed from version 1.0:
1-Aztecs city are now in the correct places
2-Iroquois civilization gave place to Incan civilization
3-The french now have a settler in Louisiana

Version 1.0 removed after 180 downloads

iberian union? was tehre such thing? they almost went on a war but the pope stoped ti w/ the line of demarcation, but still it looks pretty cool

actually there was an iberian union, but it only happened in 1580. the reason why I made it there was i didnt want to make a civ for Portugal(I already used 16 civs)

yeah i realised that, also i found some things in mexico, like the cities were kind of wrong, and i think it would be better if instead of putting a settler, u should put an army (u can name the leader Cortez) and have him take over teh aztecs as it happened, that ould be pretty cool......but is ur scenario and ur decision, alotugh is prety good anyways >_< mine sucked

Luiz: I must know, how do you manage to do all these scenerios? They are all exellent, and you seem to come out with one every other week! Are you currently in school (any level), because if you are, I wonder how you do it!

I think span bullied Portugal around. But i dont think the union would have lasted that long. Cos when Spain went to war with England Portugal would have joined in and Portugal is Englands longest serving freind.

Thanks cgannon64! I dont have much free time, but it doesnt take too long to build a scenario. I work about 30 min in a secnario every day, and in a week I have a new one... Im in school, and since my "vestibular"(I dont know how you call that in english, thats the test in Brazil we have to do to be accepted in a University, and it is VERY difficult) is coming, Im having to study a lot, but i can spare 30 min per day.

About the Iberian Union, it existed form 1580 to 1640. The king of Spain managed to foul the nobility of Portugal(its a long and complicated history) and became their ruler. in 1640, the portuguese took of advantage of the 30 Year War and proclaimed their independence. The 60 years of Union, however, had a devastating effect on portuguese economy, and Portugal had to increase the taxes over Brazil, what led to the first colonial revolts in that country. Sorry for the excessive history, I think I got carried away...

Actually,I found it pretty interesting.

Portugal had to join to the Spanish rule, because their king Sebastião died during a crusade in Morocco. He had no own children to be successors, so Philip II of Spain managed to get the Portuguese crown, because some sister of Sebastiao was married to a Habsburg, and Philip II was legal successor of the Portuguese king.

The Spanish rule, however, ruined the Portuguese empire, they could not protect it from attacks of other nations. E.g. the dutch colonized the northeast Brazil, and I think other parts were in similar situation. Before the Habsburg rule, the Portuguese were planning to build even bigger empire, but their plans had to be delayed until the 19th century, because of what happened between 1580 and 1640.

But I think the Iberian union could have been named simply as Spain.

Exactly. And you are right, other parts of Brazil were in similar situations. The northern state of Maranhão was invaded by the french, who had been defeated in Rio de Janeiro, where they first attempted to build Antartic France.

Cool. I had thought about making such a mod. Maybe I try to improve this one.. ;)

Hmm You forgot one important thing: Why did the Spanish, English and other European countries sailed around Africa, and over the Atlantic ocean??.

Three things:
-To difuse the Christian Religion
-The wanted to know if there were other "worlds"
-And the most important: they wanted a good traderoute with the east. Before 1500 the Italians had some trade with the Arabian people. But they were not very cheap.

So the Portugese had sailed around Africa, kicked the Arabians out of India (the Arabians had trade-posts there) So you should give the Arabian people some (bad-defended) "colonies" in India.

good idea...

but how to represent the european wish to difuse the Christian Religion?

I included the Incans and excluded the Iroquois in the new version. I think the Incans will be more fun, because they were a far more sofisticated culture then the Iroquois.

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I included the Incans and excluded the Iroquois in the new version. I think the Incans will be more fun, because they were a far more sofisticated culture then the Iroquois.

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still multiple post...

end of that huge multiple post...that was embarassing...:sad:
perhaps a mod could take care of it...

So you included the Incas what a great idea, though I have a question: Why have you writen it so many times?

I dont know...hehe...

I know this is old,but still...

I like Underdogs,so I started as Aztecs,but against this huge Spanish force it is impossible.The Spanish victory against Aztecs was out of Aztec dumbness,Indian rebellions and Pizarros cleverness,not because of military might.The Spanish force should be removed or reduced to maximum 1 or 2 musketmen,to make Aztecs a playable choice (they're still ages behind the Europeans,so it remains a hard challenge).

Low Nations didn't exist at this time,BTW.

Kenelly: Ill think of reducing the spanish force in Mexico in a possible next versio. But try not declaring war at Spain so soon. Wait untill they build citys and their power in America is dispersed

Incas were an excellent civ, they had a monarchy which actually worked the way it was supposed to, by breeding a line of men who were literally born to rule.

Of course it couldn't last too long (inbreeding) but it was neat.

Era of Sales.. is that supposed to be Sails?

Oh, and.. nice scenario.

This is one of the best ever civ3 scenarios uknow.

@Mobilize: I cant believe I made such a stupid, stupid mistake. I've insulted the whole english-speaking world.

@Impreza: Thanks!

Don't worry. I don't blame you, English is a very tricky language to handle. I was just asking because I would have checked out what the "sales" were during that time.

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I thought it had to do with merchantilism.

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Originally posted by SKILORD
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I thought it had to do with merchantilism.

:lol:

No, i really meant sails.(Stupid, stupid mistake)

I have a fail when i try to charge this scenario, because my computer cannot find the archive SCOUT.INI. Anybody knows what the problem is?

Civ3 is in the c drive?

The Aztecs lost to the Spanish (who were there illegally by the King's decree, it was only that Cortez delivered Mexico he was spared punishment) because the Spanish were allowed to walk right in to the capital before they were finally seen as bad. Then when the fighting started, all the tribes the Aztecs oppressed rose up against them and fought with the Spanish. That's one thing someone has to change, make the non-capital cities more dissident to represent that crazy notion that human sacrifice of their sons was bad!

On the Iberian Union, Portugal and Spain were united briefly in the 1600-1700's so the "Iberian Union" is good for the continuation of the game.

Well that didnt go very well. I was trying to play with the Aztecs, and on the second turn a barbarian killed one of my jaguar warriors and then the game ended as it said my civilization was conquered.

And no cities were captured, I just lost one battle with a guy on a hill...and it said GAME OVER.

My cd is in,and is in c: but always says the same fail:
Can´t find the archive Units/Scout/Scout.ini

Great scenario luiz - I downloaded a while back but never had time to play it.

To improve it I would:
Make workers, settlers, scouts, explorers, cruise missiles, tactical nukes & armies airliftable.
Make warriors & other obsolete units unbuildable for the European Powers.
Increase the movement of ships especialy the more modern units to represent the rapid deployment of these units.

I do this to all of my scenarios otherwise you get civilisations tring to assault your tanks by shooting arrows at it and hitting it with an axe!

EDIT: You could also increase the range of air units & missile units to represent the amount of land represented by each tile on the map (a cruise missile cannot hit a single city in england from the amsterdam region).

Hey , i wanted to play Portugal! Iberian Union is not a good idea.

Originally posted by Pedro_II
Hey , i wanted to play Portugal! Iberian Union is not a good idea.

Download my "1650" scenario, then :D

I'm sorry I'm new to this , it's very tricky.

I tried to change the human player on your 1650 scenario to Portugal, but it keeps making me start with England, even if it says in the menu that I'm playing Portugal.

Another thing, I changed the favourite government to "Democracy" and the characteristics to Commercial and Expansionistic, because I think it reflects more the portuguese reality of the time ( not military and religious!)


But I want to play Portugal, can U help?

Edit: I think I got it! It´s not that hard.
I will play Portugal (commercial and expansionist),aggression level diminished (portuguese weren't agressive!)

I'll tell you all about it tomorrow

Thank you1
Obrigado!!
:goodjob:
:D
Originally posted by luiz


Download my "1650" scenario, then :D :goodjob:

One teensy problem I have with the scenario is the city of Macau in China -- it was a Portuguese colony from the beginning, there was never a Chinese city on the site. The city could be easily renamed Canton, however, and be unmoved. Canton was (and is, under the name of Guangzhou) a major Chinese city.

luis Just played it!
Great Scenario!
Enjoyed the Taprobana inclusion detail :D

Very very good, I am playing Portugal ... let's see what will happen.

All the barbarians are supposed to represent the Indians I suppose...hmmm very clever,


everything seems fine , I just managed to conquer Recife back to the Portuguese...eheheh

Originally posted by Pedro_II
luis Just played it!
Great Scenario!
Enjoyed the Taprobana inclusion detail :D

Very very good, I am playing Portugal ... let's see what will happen.

All the barbarians are supposed to represent the Indians I suppose...hmmm very clever,


everything seems fine , I just managed to conquer Recife back to the Portuguese...eheheh

Yes, the barbarians represent the indians.

Have fun!