I just put together a new PC, reinstalled Civ4 and upgraded to BTS + BuG.

In the past I would typically play on Continents, Normal speed, with the rest of the setting on Random. I did again and the first thing I noticed was that my first BTS map is much more resource-dense than any Warlord map I've played with similar settings.

With Warlords I had to struggle to get 8 cities by 1AD (some of this is rebound from an over-expansion game where I REX'd so hard I could not recover). I also noticed I had a harder time getting cities to the 17-22 pop range. Sometimes there was simply not enough food in the BFC even after improvements.

In my first game I had 10 cities almost by accident well before 200ish BC when I looked. I know some of that is from the improved organization from the BuG mod but the map itself is generated by the core game.

I noticed this before in screenies from posted game discussions but I never just assumed it was different map settings (I admit I rarely pay attention to map settings when reading posts).

If this is consistent change and not just a lucky resource heavy map I will be one extremely happy civver. :):):)

I can't say definitively, but I noticed the same thing when I started playing BTS.

I never played Warlords, I started with Vanilla, then bought Complete, so I skipped it. I did notice some better spacing of resources on BTS, on Vanilla they tended to be "clumpy".

There are a bunch of map scripts to play with though, and some have some adjustable resource density settings. Play around til you find a level your comfy with.

Its hard for me to judge difficulty between the two though. I only played about 2 months on Vanilla, was testing Monarch, went back to Prince/Noble a bit when I got BTS, but not long. I went to Monarch and basically never struggled with it, though.

Um, when I transitioned from Warlords to BtS, I didn't notice any difference. Then again, I didn't maintain a constant map setting. I should also mention that I wasn't paying attention to the resources, as I was focusing on the new features!

I should also mention that I was paying attention to the resources, as I was focusing on the new features!

Do you mean wasn't?

Yeah, sorry. I'll edit that.

Actually, I just upgraded my PC (new motherboard and CPU) and I feel that the continents maps generated now are... somehow more interesting. Is *that* possible?

Since I´ve mostly played BTS I can´t remember if I noticed any difference from vanilla civ.

I have never noticed a difference between vanilla/BtS resources. I can't say anything about Warlords, though.

Played a few games with the Warlord expansion a couple of week ago; just to test some ideas. I can't say that there was a difference between it and BTS - not significant enough to be noticeably different at first glance anyway.

I think that a better way to get your answer would be to ask someone here who knows a lot about the files of the game. (Hint hint ... DanF5771 ... ) :lol:

This thread should be merged with another, in civ4 general I think (or rather that thread merged here.)

I'll make the same comment I did there - I believe BtS changed the algorithm for your starting location. Depending on map size/number of rivals etc... this could definitely make resources seem a lot different.

BtS did change the starting location algorithm by trying to add so many tree BEFORE adding extra resources. :(