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Smash
Sep 07, 2002, 11:32 AM
Title kinda has a nice ring to it :)..like some big outdoor concert or martial arts tournament.

1.e4

A_Bashkuev
Sep 07, 2002, 12:01 PM
Yeah, it has good sound in it!

1.e4 e5

Smash
Sep 07, 2002, 02:15 PM
1.e4 e5
2.Nf3

A_Bashkuev
Sep 07, 2002, 09:43 PM
Ugh, strange move... Don't used to it - never seen before ;).

Well...

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6

I'll be as weird as you as long as possible.

Smash
Sep 07, 2002, 10:11 PM
LOL..don't worry.We aren't going 30 moves into a Ruy Lopez.

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3

A_Bashkuev
Sep 07, 2002, 11:32 PM
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5

Who is Ruy Lopez? Some Spaniard I think. And It seems that Ponciani is Englishman. ;)

Smash
Sep 08, 2002, 11:45 AM
Some Spanish monk that had little else to do but make wine and play chess :)

I know Staunton was a Ponziani beleiver.


1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5
4.Bb5

A_Bashkuev
Sep 09, 2002, 08:45 AM
Yeah, sure.

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5
4.Bb5 dxe4

Smash
Sep 09, 2002, 10:21 AM
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5
4.Bb5 dxe4
5.Nxe5

A_Bashkuev
Sep 09, 2002, 10:35 AM
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5
4.Bb5 dxe4
5.Nxe5 Qd5

Smash
Sep 09, 2002, 02:27 PM
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5
4.Bb5 dxe4
5.Nxe5 Qd5
6.Qa4

A_Bashkuev
Sep 09, 2002, 03:16 PM
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5
4.Bb5 dxe4
5.Nxe5 Qd5
6.Qa4 Ne7

Smash
Sep 09, 2002, 04:23 PM
Still in book.We shall leave the book soon.

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5
4.Bb5 dxe4
5.Nxe5 Qd5
6.Qa4 Ne7
7.f4

A_Bashkuev
Sep 09, 2002, 04:31 PM
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5
4.Bb5 dxe4
5.Nxe5 Qd5
6.Qa4 Ne7
7.f4 Bd7

Sure. I promised you - I'will keep known path as long as possible. I was taught by you in a hard way ;)

Smash
Sep 09, 2002, 06:36 PM
hehehe...the book in this line is not so charted.

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5
4.Bb5 dxe4
5.Nxe5 Qd5
6.Qa4 Ne7
7.f4 Bd7
8.Nxd7

A_Bashkuev
Sep 09, 2002, 06:40 PM
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5
4.Bb5 dxe4
5.Nxe5 Qd5
6.Qa4 Ne7
7.f4 Bd7
8.Nxd7 Kxd7

Um-m-m... Maybe we look in different books?


P.S. By the way, I'm sure that I've just won party from Hitro. Must I wait for his acknowledgement or my analyse for you in enough?

Smash
Sep 09, 2002, 07:05 PM
Maybe.

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5
4.Bb5 dxe4
5.Nxe5 Qd5
6.Qa4 Ne7
7.f4 Bd7
8.Nxd7 Kxd7
9.Bc4

Smash
Sep 09, 2002, 07:05 PM
and yes you should wait for your opponent to resign.


Or to be checkmated :D

A_Bashkuev
Sep 09, 2002, 07:28 PM
Fine. I'll wait for it.

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5
4.Bb5 dxe4
5.Nxe5 Qd5
6.Qa4 Ne7
7.f4 Bd7
8.Nxd7 Kxd7
9.Bc4 Qf5

By the way, I thought that you are going to bring me into famous Shiffers attack. In encyclopedy it went as:
9. 0-0 Nf5
10. b4 a5
11. Kh1 etc. with really good outcome for Black
But in recent edition it has totally different ending:
9. 0-0 Nf5
10. d4 exd4
11. Rd1 Bc5
12. Kf1! that went in strong White favor.

I've thought that you want "to catch" me on variant that was in one time favorable for Black, but after that for White ;). But you will be surprised - recently it get new twist & I wanted "to catch you" on counter-variant as well ;) Poor me :)

Smash
Sep 09, 2002, 07:41 PM
Not my first day :D

I'm going to follow a Larobok idea http://home.accglobal.net/~sroy/images/evil2.gif

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5
4.Bb5 dxe4
5.Nxe5 Qd5
6.Qa4 Ne7
7.f4 Bd7
8.Nxd7 Kxd7
9.Bc4 Qf5
10.Qb3

A_Bashkuev
Sep 09, 2002, 08:01 PM
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5
4.Bb5 dxe4
5.Nxe5 Qd5
6.Qa4 Ne7
7.f4 Bd7
8.Nxd7 Kxd7
9.Bc4 Qf5
10.Q-b3 Na5

Don't refuse anything for yourself. You are welcome!

Smash
Sep 09, 2002, 08:38 PM
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5
4.Bb5 dxe4
5.Nxe5 Qd5
6.Qa4 Ne7
7.f4 Bd7
8.Nxd7 Kxd7
9.Bc4 Qf5
10.Qb3 Na5
11.Qb5+

A_Bashkuev
Sep 09, 2002, 08:46 PM
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5
4.Bb5 dxe4
5.Nxe5 Qd5
6.Qa4 Ne7
7.f4 Bd7
8.Nxd7 Kxd7
9.Bc4 Qf5
10.Qb3 Na5
11.Qb5+ Qxb5

Smash
Sep 09, 2002, 09:05 PM
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5
4.Bb5 dxe4
5.Nxe5 Qd5
6.Qa4 Ne7
7.f4 Bd7
8.Nxd7 Kxd7
9.Bc4 Qf5
10.Qb3 Na5
11.Qb5+ Qxb5
12.Bxb5+

A_Bashkuev
Sep 09, 2002, 09:09 PM
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5
4.Bb5 dxe4
5.Nxe5 Qd5
6.Qa4 Ne7
7.f4 Bd7
8.Nxd7 Kxd7
9.Bc4 Qf5
10.Qb3 Na5
11.Qb5+ Qxb5
12.Bxb5+ c6

Smash
Sep 09, 2002, 10:17 PM
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5
4.Bb5 dxe4
5.Nxe5 Qd5
6.Qa4 Ne7
7.f4 Bd7
8.Nxd7 Kxd7
9.Bc4 Qf5
10.Qb3 Na5
11.Qb5+ Qxb5
12.Bxb5+ c6
13.Be2


You can make a hyperlink by encasing the address of your story in [ url][/url] tags..Or you can do it nice like:

To Kill Archimed (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/archimed_in_English.zip)

Check out the FAQ for more.

A_Bashkuev
Sep 10, 2002, 12:14 AM
I write you from home now, then I must have time for getting our party in proper place in my memory, but I wonder - what is your method to make hyperlink nice in my profile??? (I.E. - plain "To Kill Archimed") I don't find it in FAQ - pls , explain or give link.

Thnks & brgds, Alex.

Smash
Sep 10, 2002, 02:14 AM
http://forums.civfanatics.com/misc.php?s=&action=bbcode

You do iy by:

[url=youraddress]your text[/url}<----making this ] instead of }

A_Bashkuev
Sep 10, 2002, 12:45 PM
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5
4.Bb5 dxe4
5.Nxe5 Qd5
6.Qa4 Ne7
7.f4 Bd7
8.Nxd7 Kxd7
9.Bc4 Qf5
10.Qb3 Na5
11.Qb5+ Qxb5
12.Bxb5+ c6
13.Be2 b5

Thnx, I will try it in 12th

Smash
Sep 10, 2002, 12:57 PM
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 d5
4.Bb5 dxe4
5.Nxe5 Qd5
6.Qa4 Ne7
7.f4 Bd7
8.Nxd7 Kxd7
9.Bc4 Qf5
10.Qb3 Na5
11.Qb5+ Qxb5
12.Bxb5+ c6
13.Be2 b5
14.b4

A_Bashkuev
Sep 10, 2002, 01:48 PM
11.Qb5+ Qxb5
12.Bxb5+ c6
13.Be2 b5
14.b4 Nb7

Smash
Sep 10, 2002, 05:06 PM
I have to try and get my pieces out into play :eek:

11.Qb5+ Qxb5
12.Bxb5+ c6
13.Be2 b5
14.b4 Nb7
15.a4

A_Bashkuev
Sep 11, 2002, 09:24 PM
Yeah, I see. Grim perspective for me...

11.Qb5+ Qxb5
12.Bxb5+ c6
13.Be2 b5
14.b4 Nb7
15.a4 bxa4

My queen side in pieces, my queen' pawns are hopeless weak, but I have consolation that each time I pull it better & better. I must abandon my "easy going" attitude to chess when playing with you completely. :(

Smash
Sep 11, 2002, 10:31 PM
Look at my d pawn.That is ugly, not to mention the bishop.

11.Qb5+ Qxb5
12.Bxb5+ c6
13.Be2 b5
14.b4 Nb7
15.a4 bxa4
16.Na3

A_Bashkuev
Sep 12, 2002, 01:44 AM
11.Qb5+ Qxb5
12.Bxb5+ c6
13.Be2 b5
14.b4 Nb7
15.a4 bxa4
16.Na3 Nd5

Smash
Sep 12, 2002, 10:35 AM
11.Qb5+ Qxb5
12.Bxb5+ c6
13.Be2 b5
14.b4 Nb7
15.a4 bxa4
16.Na3 Nd5
17.Nc4


I'm worried here :eek:

A_Bashkuev
Sep 14, 2002, 09:06 PM
Good day again. I've got time enough for my thinking ;)

11.Qb5+ Qxb5
12.Bxb5+ c6
13.Be2 b5
14.b4 Nb7
15.a4 bxa4
16.Na3 Nd5
17.Nc4 f6

Smash
Sep 15, 2002, 01:00 AM
I've had lots of time to look over thisposition and I still don't feel great about it.Better than before but still not great.

11.Qb5+ Qxb5
12.Bxb5+ c6
13.Be2 b5
14.b4 Nb7
15.a4 bxa4
16.Na3 Nd5
17.Nc4 f6
18.Rxa4


http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/Smash%25Bash.gif

A_Bashkuev
Sep 15, 2002, 01:29 AM
What are your reasons of worrying about it - you position isn't great yet, but it's strictly better then mine!

11.Qb5+ Qxb5
12.Bxb5+ c6
13.Be2 b5
14.b4 Nb7
15.a4 bxa4
16.Na3 Nd5
17.Nc4 f6
18.Rxa4 Bd6

I just can't do anything at all! Then I must try to simplificate it as frast as possible.

Smash
Sep 15, 2002, 11:38 AM
Well,thats one thing that concerns me abit.Loosing opposition in an endgame and the center would not be good.
I'm worried about the effectiveness of knights in closed positions.
And I'm still in abit of a quandry about what to do with my dark bishop.
Your e pawn is annoying the heck out of me.
Other than that,I like my position :D

Maybe I worry about something that is only in my mind?:o

11.Qb5+ Qxb5
12.Bxb5+ c6
13.Be2 b5
14.b4 Nb7
15.a4 bxa4
16.Na3 Nd5
17.Nc4 f6
18.Rxa4 Bd6
19.f5

A_Bashkuev
Sep 16, 2002, 12:50 AM
11.Qb5+ Qxb5
12.Bxb5+ c6
13.Be2 b5
14.b4 Nb7
15.a4 bxa4
16.Na3 Nd5
17.Nc4 f6
18.Rxa4 Bd6
19.f5 Nf4

Hamlet had bad ending by this strong reflexion :). You are OK, I can sure you ;)

Smash
Sep 16, 2002, 11:51 AM
I can solve all of my "problems" now with this freeing move :D

11.Qb5+ Qxb5
12.Bxb5+ c6
13.Be2 b5
14.b4 Nb7
15.a4 bxa4
16.Na3 Nd5
17.Nc4 f6
18.Rxa4 Bd6
19.f5 Nf4
20.d4

A_Bashkuev
Sep 16, 2002, 02:04 PM
Well, I know & you know that it was your intended move - why try for pretending ;)

11.Qb5+ Qxb5
12.Bxb5+ c6
13.Be2 b5
14.b4 Nb7
15.a4 bxa4
16.Na3 Nd5
17.Nc4 f6
18.Rxa4 Bd6
19.f5 Nf4
20.d4 exd3

Smash
Sep 16, 2002, 02:42 PM
Actually I was gonna play 20.g3 but I think 19.f5 was a little less than the best move and the following simplifications were not as good without d4 played first freeing up my bishop.

11.Qb5+ Qxb5
12.Bxb5+ c6
13.Be2 b5
14.b4 Nb7
15.a4 bxa4
16.Na3 Nd5
17.Nc4 f6
18.Rxa4 Bd6
19.f5 Nf4
20.d4 exd3
21.Bxf4

A_Bashkuev
Sep 17, 2002, 09:19 AM
21.Bxf4 dxe2

Uh-uh. I think, your "white" bishop was more menace for me ;)

Smash
Sep 17, 2002, 04:43 PM
That I am not so convinced of.


21.Bxf4 dxe2
22.Nxd6

A_Bashkuev
Sep 17, 2002, 05:15 PM
21.Bxf4 dxe2
22.Nxd6 Nxd6

Smash
Sep 17, 2002, 06:14 PM
21.Bxf4 dxe2
22.Nxd6 Nxd6
23.Kxe2

I think f5 may have removed my chances to win drastically.:(

A_Bashkuev
Sep 17, 2002, 06:23 PM
OK. I will bite as well.

21.Bxf4 dxe2
22.Nxd6 Nxd6
23.Kxe2 Rhe8+

Smash
Sep 17, 2002, 07:47 PM
21.Bxf4 dxe2
22.Nxd6 Nxd6
23.Kxe2 Rhe8+
24.Kf3

A_Bashkuev
Sep 17, 2002, 08:18 PM
I think I must do it anyway...

21.Bxf4 dxe2
22.Nxd6 Nxd6
23.Kxe2 Rhe8+
24.Kf3 Nxf5

Smash
Sep 18, 2002, 12:22 PM
21.Bxf4 dxe2
22.Nxd6 Nxd6
23.Kxe2 Rhe8+
24.Kf3 Nxf5
25.Rha1

A_Bashkuev
Sep 19, 2002, 12:24 PM
Do I need your Rook in a6 with my pawn on a7? I think - not!

21.Bxf4 dxe2
22.Nxd6 Nxd6
23.Kxe2 Rhe8+
24.Kf3 Nxf5
25.Rha1 a6

Want to change them?

Smash
Sep 19, 2002, 12:45 PM
lol..yes please.About 1/2 hour after entering Rha1,the move 25.Ra6 jumped out at me and said:
"Why didn't you make me dummy?"

21.Bxf4 dxe2
22.Nxd6 Nxd6
23.Kxe2 Rhe8+
24.Kf3 Nxf5
25.Rha1 a6
26.Rxa6

A_Bashkuev
Sep 19, 2002, 10:07 PM
I was sure, that you would place your rook in a6 as answer on my Nxf5 - by the way...

21.Bxf4 dxe2
22.Nxd6 Nxd6
23.Kxe2 Rhe8+
24.Kf3 Nxf5
25.Rha1 a6
26.Rxa6 Rxa6

Smash
Sep 20, 2002, 12:39 AM
I don't seem to be on top of my game lately.Or my competition is on their's :eek:


21.Bxf4 dxe2
22.Nxd6 Nxd6
23.Kxe2 Rhe8+
24.Kf3 Nxf5
25.Rha1 a6
26.Rxa6 Rxa6
27.Rxa6

A_Bashkuev
Sep 20, 2002, 01:12 AM
Yeah, sure. You relieved a lot of pressure from me recently - I was sure that this play have already been lost, but you give me chance to kick longer... Kick hard... ;)

21.Bxf4 dxe2
22.Nxd6 Nxd6
23.Kxe2 Rhe8+
24.Kf3 Nxf5
25.Rha1 a6
26.Rxa6 Rxa6
27.Rxa6 Re1

Smash
Sep 20, 2002, 01:19 PM
21.Bxf4 dxe2
22.Nxd6 Nxd6
23.Kxe2 Rhe8+
24.Kf3 Nxf5
25.Rha1 a6
26.Rxa6 Rxa6
27.Rxa6 Re1
28.g4

A_Bashkuev
Sep 21, 2002, 10:12 AM
21.Bxf4 dxe2
22.Nxd6 Nxd6
23.Kxe2 Rhe8+
24.Kf3 Nxf5
25.Rha1 a6
26.Rxa6 Rxa6
27.Rxa6 Re1
28.g4 Ne7

A_Bashkuev
Sep 21, 2002, 01:08 PM
Dear Smash, can you change tread name "Anyone for game" to "Mike23 - Bash" name?


Edited: Oh, don't try it's already irrelevant now. :)

Smash
Sep 21, 2002, 04:59 PM
That was quick.Correspondence speed chess.What a unique idea :D

Well another long session of analysis.Most of which was spent on 29.g5.Big tree with many branches :crazyeye: Don't think I found a win for black,but sure didn't find anything for white.:eek:

29.Ra5 was next, but just too easy for black.

So,I come back and play the obvious move :lol:.Not that I see anything promising here :(.Kinda makes 28.g4 iffy now too :mad:


21.Bxf4 dxe2
22.Nxd6 Nxd6
23.Kxe2 Rhe8+
24.Kf3 Nxf5
25.Rha1 a6
26.Rxa6 Rxa6
27.Rxa6 Re1
28.g4 Ne7
29.Ra7+

A_Bashkuev
Sep 21, 2002, 05:25 PM
Have I any choice here? I think - not.

21.Bxf4 dxe2
22.Nxd6 Nxd6
23.Kxe2 Rhe8+
24.Kf3 Nxf5
25.Rha1 a6
26.Rxa6 Rxa6
27.Rxa6 Re1
28.g4 Ne7
29.Ra7+ Ke6

I've already wondered about 28. g4 as well...

A_Bashkuev
Sep 21, 2002, 05:28 PM
Pls, check Bash/Panzar as well...
What do you think about it?

Oh, you can check Hitro vs Bash 2 as well...

Smash
Sep 21, 2002, 07:04 PM
Got them.You're on a roll.Please post results in the "player records" thread.

No not much choice.

21.Bxf4 dxe2
22.Nxd6 Nxd6
23.Kxe2 Rhe8+
24.Kf3 Nxf5
25.Rha1 a6
26.Rxa6 Rxa6
27.Rxa6 Re1
28.g4 Ne7
29.Ra7+ Ke6
30.Be3

A_Bashkuev
Sep 21, 2002, 08:33 PM
21.Bxf4 dxe2
22.Nxd6 Nxd6
23.Kxe2 Rhe8+
24.Kf3 Nxf5
25.Rha1 a6
26.Rxa6 Rxa6
27.Rxa6 Re1
28.g4 Ne7
29.Ra7+ Ke6
30.Be3 Rf1+

Smash
Sep 21, 2002, 09:00 PM
30.Be3 Rf1+
31.Kg2

A_Bashkuev
Sep 21, 2002, 10:35 PM
30.Be3 Rf1+
31.Kg2 Rd1

Smash
Sep 22, 2002, 10:05 AM
30.Be3 Rf1+
31.Kg2 Rd1
32.c4

A_Bashkuev
Sep 23, 2002, 09:54 PM
30.Be3 Rf1+
31.Kg2 Rd1
32.c4 Rd7

I analysed our position as well & think you can try to win it, but you simply can't lose it. If you would lose I would have hunch that you do it especially. Then I ask of draw, but feel free to decline my proposition due to fact that your Bishop is strictly better then my Knight & you initiative in queen flank is dangerous. But I hope that I would give you any chance in king flank then I hope - it's - draw. (I will fight for draw as best as I can :).

Smash
Sep 24, 2002, 11:18 AM
I think there is more wood to be pushed yet.
If I lose,I can assure you,it won't be on purpose.Such a thing is unimaginable to me.While I have made some moves that were "not the best",they were not blunders either :D


30.Be3 Rf1+
31.Kg2 Rd1
32.c4 Rd7
33.Ra6

A_Bashkuev
Sep 25, 2002, 06:06 AM
Yep. I know. I'm aware about the fact that my way to draw isn't easy. But I'll try.

30.Be3 Rf1+
31.Kg2 Rd1
32.c4 Rd7
33.Ra6 Kd6

If you like to continue 34. b5 then my answer will be 34. .. Kc7
Take my words as sure promise & make your 35 move as well if you wish ;)

Smash
Sep 25, 2002, 10:14 AM
30.Be3 Rf1+
31.Kg2 Rd1
32.c4 Rd7
33.Ra6 Kd6
34.b5 Kc7
35.b6+

A_Bashkuev
Sep 25, 2002, 10:23 AM
30.Be3 Rf1+
31.Kg2 Rd1
32.c4 Rd7
33.Ra6 Kd6
34.b5 Kc7
35.b6+ Kb7

Smash
Sep 25, 2002, 12:47 PM
My bishop is getting stronger.

30.Be3 Rf1+
31.Kg2 Rd1
32.c4 Rd7
33.Ra6 Kd6
34.b5 Kc7
35.b6+ Kb7
36.Ra7+

if
36...Kc8
37.Rxd7 Kxd7

then 38.Kf3

A_Bashkuev
Sep 25, 2002, 01:37 PM
Was it really big news? I knew it, you knew it - may be you thought then I prefer 33. .. Kf7 idea??? Or you think that I really hope that you won't make exchange on d7 square? If I speak about your "bishop & rook" advantage over my "knight & rook" advantage? Then why pretending? I'm sure that all my moves were forced as well as yours - we went most by simple & sure road - your bishop was strong enough from 25-28 move, because I knew & you knew that it was strong bishop vs weak knight ending. That is that. But I'don't see yet - your method of penetration of my king flank. Show it I i'ld resign. ;)

30.Be3 Rf1+
31.Kg2 Rd1
32.c4 Rd7
33.Ra6 Kd6
34.b5 Kc7
35.b6+ Kb7
36.Ra7+ Kc8
37.Rxd7 Kxd7
38. Kf3 Kc8

Smash
Sep 25, 2002, 05:58 PM
hehehe..ok..ok..you have earned the draw :goodjob:

It is true there is no way in.

A_Bashkuev
Sep 25, 2002, 06:03 PM
Can I begin tread Bash/Smash 4?

Smash
Sep 25, 2002, 06:10 PM
sure why not? :D

This next one could be the dawning of a new era.I can't help thinking of KvsK#1 ;)

Panzar75
Sep 25, 2002, 06:28 PM
We common people can't help but admire you giants... :)