Will we patch up? If so when? I would think there are few drawbacks to patching up imeadiatly.

Let's wait and see for a couple of days, 'til the dust settles. Issues have come up before when a patch came out.

Wasn't expecting a new patch, and the process for patching a pitboss can be somewhat challenging. Plus if players have non-patched games in progress it can be difficult to get them to agree. So yes, let's give it some time, and folks need to weigh in on whether patching would be a problem.

People can dual instal if they have other games going that are not going to patch up. Patching with pitboss is quite a lot less painful than patching with PBEM. As long as savegames are compatible between versions things should be fine. But yes let's wait and see the bugs.

Dual install: depends on whether you're on a boat-anchor PC that is short on disk space :p

These seem to be the main changes in 3.19 relevant to our game:

- Players can no longer receive obsolete resources through trade
- Build-specific production modifiers are no longer counted for overflow gold calculations
- Terrain height no longer affects aerial recon missions
- Sea patrolling ships no longer attack if they have less than 50% chance of winning the battle

I'm with DaveShack that we should go the cautious route and not patch too soon. Where possible, we should stick with the current patch for now, and people should do dual installs if they really want to use 3.19. (Of course, some people might already have patched before they read this, which will probably mean that they'll be unable to access the game now.)

From what I've read on the patch thread the saves seem pretty compatible.

The one thing I really like though with the new patch is the fact that there's no need to use the disc. :D

The one thing I really like though with the new patch is the fact that there's no need to use the disc. :D

Wow, does this mean I can use my CIV4 drive for other things now? :crazyeye:

Yeah, the lack of the need for carting a CD around is a very welcome change indeed. :)

patching should not cause any issues, at least has not caused any for me in the past with the pitboses I hosted.

I suggest we patch.

This patch has a different save version to 3.17, whereas several previous patches had the same save version. I'd be cautious about just assuming that it won't break the game.

Well making a restore point in the server and restoring back if it causes trouble should be easy.

First the server needs enough disk space to dual install.
Probably won't be a problem, but it's nowhere near a done deal yet... ;)

Yeah, the lack of the need for carting a CD around is a very welcome change indeed. :)

...naturally, this will result in ALC updates more often, right? :mischief:

...naturally, this will result in ALC updates more often, right? :mischief:
Well, weekdays are still a bit of an issue for me due to the need to do some *actual* work for this whole PhD thing. :p

But yeah, hopefully. ;)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8164561&postcount=193

In the same thread, Firaxis' alexman confirms this is a bug :confused:

FYI I have patched a pitboss I am running with no problems.

According to this post (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=8168278#post8168278), it looks like there may be issues with Civstats and the new patch. Seems like a good reason to wait a bit before patching...

According to this post (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=8168278#post8168278), it looks like there may be issues with Civstats and the new patch. Seems like a good reason to wait a bit before patching...

I am using civstats as well no problem at all.

Hmm, okay. Maybe it's some other problem that that guy is having.

I already patched.
If you tell me the way and password to go to my
team (Madscientists) that I forgot,i'll try and let
you know what happens.
Best regards,

All you do is just enter their forum. Click the "Mad Scientists" link.

I (junior member team MS) will not be patching until HOF 3.19 is released. I'm not a turnplayer though, so it shouldn't matter for this game.

There is a difference between junior and normal team members?

This might be why MS has few or no other turn players....

Yeah, the whole point about being a "democracy" game is that everyone on a team should have an equal say. ;) If they don't have an equal say on MS, that could be why a disproportionate number of members are losing interest on that team. Perhaps that's the problem that needs to be fixed. :)

Many of the Mad Scientists are European and don't have English as their first language.
In this case "junior" meant "newest" :) It does not imply anything else.

Okay, good to know. Worth checking up on, anyway. If any team runs that way (now or in the future), it needs to be seriously looked into - simply because it turns off the newer players if there's already a set hierarchy in place such that they don't have much (or any) power upon entering the team. :)

So any consensus on the patch?

No patch, I guess.

I don't think the concensus is to not patch, it's to see if any untoward bugs are discovered. Patch has been out, what, 6 days? Probably going to have to patch at some point...

Yeah, but just not in the immediate future. Maybe a few weeks down the line. :)

Umm... why would you wait a few weeks? This is the official patch from Firaxis. It is now the official game standard, and the vast, overwhelming majority of the community will be using it. Unless this group plans on running 3.17 for the remainder of the game - months if not years away - there is absolutely no reason not to patch the Demogame immediately. You're going to do it anyway, why not patch and do away with irritating dual installations?

Because there have been reports of bugs when going from 3.17 to 3.19 - units disappearing, amongst other things. Better to be cautious, I think. There's no reason to rush into things when it could cause unnecessary problems. (Remember 3.02? ;) )

And for me at least, dual installs are not irritating in the slightest. As long as you've got a few GB spare on your hard drive, you can dual install once and then play either version thereafter with ease.

But yes, no doubt eventually we will patch. No need to hurry though. :)

I patched and tried to connect, but timed out.
Not decisive,it happened a lot of times before.
It was about 10:30 AM London time.
Just to check if it was my mistake: I called BTS, then multiplayer,
then IP connection, then the game name, then both with and without password.
It tried as usual but timed out.
Best regards,

Dual installs are irritating, for me for example I have to unistall everything as I have already patched.

The misterious bug reports I don't know about, have not seen anything similar myself or seen someone report it for pitboss or online game.

This is a multiplayer game so it will have to be patched like all multiplayer games eventually IMO.

Umm... why would you wait a few weeks? This is the official patch from Firaxis. It is now the official game standard, and the vast, overwhelming majority of the community will be using it. Unless this group plans on running 3.17 for the remainder of the game - months if not years away - there is absolutely no reason not to patch the Demogame immediately. You're going to do it anyway, why not patch and do away with irritating dual installations?

I think a good moment for switching would be when the HOF/GotM switch, since there probably is quite a large amount of players participating in both the MTDG and the HOF/GotM.

I think a good moment for switching would be when the HOF/GotM switch, since there probably is quite a large amount of players participating in both the MTDG and the HOF/GotM.


Seconded.


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I 've dual installed, because some pbems are in 3.17 and the ISDG is 3.19; also I would prefer a patch in this game.

Seconded.


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Thirded. I might have a go at some of those gotm's.

Thirded. I might have a go at some of those gotm's.

Then do a dual install ;)

Any development regarding the patch?

Silence....

It has been a month since the patch came out...


The whole multiplayer community has patched...pitboss games, online, apolyton diplo game...everyone is patched..what are we waiting for?

I think a good moment for switching would be when the HOF/GotM switch, since there probably is quite a large amount of players participating in both the MTDG and the HOF/GotM.

This .

This .

This is what YOU think we should do. This is not a single player game!

Seconded.


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Thirded. I might have a go at some of those gotm's.

:mischief:

we should probably put it to a vote though...

Yeah, I changed my mind, I would like the game to patch to 3.19 (now), but again a vote would be best.

I'm ambivalent. Either patch is fine with me.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=8241808#post8241808

:) get your votes in....much easier than talking about it.