The East Indies Beta 2.17
http://i27.tinypic.com/641p3s.jpg

Summary:
While the original colonization only has American leaders and civ's, The East Indies is a mod about the colonies in south-east asia and India. Offering 4 new Civ's, 16 new natives, 41 new leaders, 3 new tradable resources and uniqe ships for all colonist civ's.

The scenario map should be something like this:
http://i30.tinypic.com/63ympc.jpg

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/41/eastindies01.jpg


What's new?

Civilizations:
England
British East Indies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company

- Trait: Tolerant

Leaders
- Robert Clive: Resourceful
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Clive

- Thomas Roe: Educator
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Roe

- Francis Light: Cooperative
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Light

Unique Unit
- Caravel
- Galleon
- Frigate
- Ship of the Line


France
French East Indies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_East_India_Company

- Trait: Cooperative

Leaders
- Joseph François Dupleix: Militaristic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Fran%C3%A7ois_Dupleix

- Binot Paulmier de Gonneville: Seafarer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binot_Paulmier_de_Gonneville

- Auguste Febvrier Despointes: Disciplined
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auguste_Febvrier_Despointes

Unique Unit
- Caravelle
- Galion
- Frégate
- Navire de Ligne


Netherlands
Dutch East Indies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_east_indies

- Trait: Mercantile

Leaders
- Johannes van den Bosch: Cultivative
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_van_den_Bosch

- Jan Pieterszoon Coen: Aggressive
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Pieterszoon_Coen

- Cornelis de Houtman: Seafarer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelis_de_houtman

- Dutch Stadtholder (instead of king)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadtholder

Unique Unit
- Karveel
- Galjoen
- Fregat
- Linieschip


Spain
Spanish East Indies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_East_Indies

- Trait: Conquistador

Leaders
- Miguel López de Legazpi: Conqueror
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_L%C3%B3pez_de_Legazpi

- Ruy López de Villalobos: Explorer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruy_L%C3%B3pez_de_Villalobos

- Ferdinand Magellan: Seafarer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Magellan

Unique Unit
- Carabela
- Galeón
- Fragata
- Navío


Portugal
Portuguese East Indies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Portuguese_in_Indonesia_(1512%E2%80%931850)

- Trait: Explorer

Leaders
- Vasco da Gama: Seafarer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasco_da_Gama

- Francisco Serrão: Exporter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Serr%C3%A3o

- Afonso de Albuquerque: Strategic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afonso_de_Albuquerque

Unique Unit
- Carrack
- Galeão
- Fragata
- Navio de Linha


China
Chinese East Indies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming_dynasty

- Trait: Agricultural

Leaders
- Zheng He: Seafarer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_he

- Zheng Chenggong: Ambitious
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_Chenggong

- Yishisha: Explorer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yishiha
Unique Unit
- Junk
- Treasure Ship
- Fuchuan Warship


Denmark
Danish East Indies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_East_India_Company

- Trait: Smuggler

Leaders
- Ove Gjedde: Enterprising
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ove_gjedde

- Bartholomäus Ziegenbalg: Missionary
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartholomaeus_Ziegenbalg

- Ole Bie: Industrious
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serampore

Unique Unit
- Karavel
- Galeon
- Fregat
- Linjeskib


Mughal
Mughal Empire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Empire

- Trait:Expansive

Leaders
- Akbar: Tolerant
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akbar

- Shah Jahan: Industrious
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shah_Jahan

- Babur: Conqueror
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babur

- Timurid Shah as King
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timurids

Unique Unit
- Badan
- Battil
- Baghlah
- Ghanjah

Pirates
Pirate Empire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate#On_the_Indian_coast

- Trait: ?

Leaders
- Ching Shih
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ching_Shih

- Kanhoji Angre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanhoji_Angria

- Illanoon





Natives:
Aborigines
Aboriginese Tribes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Australians

- Trait: Animist

Leaders
- Yagan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yagan
Aceh
Aceh Sultanate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aceh_Sultanate

- Trait: Muslim

Leaders
- Alauddin al-Kahar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alauddin_al-Kahar
Ayutthaya
Ayutthaya Kingdom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayutthaya_kingdom

- Trait: Buddhist

Leaders
- Narai
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narai

- Naresuan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naresuan
Bengal
Bengal Sultanate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal

- Trait: Muslim

Leaders
- Sulaiman Karrani
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulaiman_Khan_Karrani
Brunei
Bruneian Sultanate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Brunei

- Trait: Muslim

Leaders
- Bolkiah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolkiah
Champa
Champa Kingdom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champa

- Trait: Hindu

Leaders
- Po Ro Me
Dai Viet
Dai Viet Kingdom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Vietnam

- Trait: Buddhist

Leaders
- Nguyen Kim
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguyen_Kim
Golkonda
Golkonda Sultanate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultanate_of_Golconda

- Trait: Muslim

Leaders
- Sultan Quli Qutb Mulk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Quli_Qutb-ul-Mulk
Khmer
Khmer Empire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Empire

- Trait: Buddhist

Leaders
- Ang Chan
Lan Xang
Lan Xang Kingdom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lan_Xang

- Trait: Buddhist

Leaders
- Setthathirath
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setthathirath
Malacca
Malaccan Sultanate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaccan_Sultanate

- Trait: Muslim

Leaders
- Mansur Shah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansur_Shah_(Sultan_of_Malacca
Mysore
Kingdom of Mysore
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Mysore

- Trait: Hindu

Leaders
- Chikka Devaraja
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chikka_Devaraja
Orissa
Orissa Empire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Orissa

- Trait: Hindu

Leaders
- Kapilendra
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Orissa
Papua
Papuan Tribes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Guinea#People

- Trait: Animist

Leaders
- Luluai
Sitawaka
Kingdom of Sitawaka
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Sitawaka

- Trait: Hindu

Leaders
- Rajasimha
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajasimha_I
Toungoo
Toungoo Kingdom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toungoo_Dynasty

- Trait: Buddhist

Leaders
- Tabinshwehti
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabinshwehti
Coming up


Founding Fathers:

Politics:
- Samuel Adams = Suharto http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suharto
- Ben Franklin = Thomas Savery http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Savery
- Patrick Henry
- Washington Irving = Multatuli (Eduard Douwes Dekker) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multatuli
- John Jay
- James Madison
- Thomas Paine
- Pocahontas
- Betsy Ross = Pingali Venkayya http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pingali_Venkayya
- Alexis de Tocqueville = Ram Mohan Roy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raja_Ram_Mohan_Roy
- John Winthrop

Exploration:
- Vasco Nunez de Balboa = Warren Hastings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Hastings
- Juan de Bermudez = James Cook http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_cook
- Pedro Alvares Cabral = Pedro Sarmiento de Gamboa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Sarmiento_de_Gamboa
- Alexander von Humboldt = Karl von Scherzer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_von_Scherzer
- Juan Ponce de Leon = Isaac Titsingh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Titsingh
- Lewis and Clark = Constantine Phaulkon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_Phaulkon
- Jacques Marquette = Thor Heyerdahl http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor_Heyerdahl
- Gonzalo Jimenez de Quesada = Alvaro de Mendaña de Neyra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvaro_de_Menda%C3%B1a_de_Neyra
- John Smith = Maarten Gerritsz Vries http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maarten_Gerritsz_Vries
- Giovanni de Verrazano = Abel Tasman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abel_tasman

Religion:
- William Brewster
- Bartolome de las Casas = Alexander de Rhodes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_de_rhodes
- John Harvard
- Nathanial Hawthorne = Saki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saki
- Thomas Hooker = Pigneau de Behaine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigneau_de_Behaine
- Sor Juana = Lin Zexu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lin_Zexu
- Gabriel Lallemant = William Carrey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Carey_(missionary)
- Gregorio de Mattos e Guerra
- William Penn
- Juan de Sepulveda
- Roger Williams

Trade:
- John Jacob Astor
- Lord Baltimore
- Alexander Hamilton = François Caron http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/François_Caron
- Cyrus McCormick
- Peter Minuit = Johan van Oldenbarnevelt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan_van_Oldenbarnevelt
- John Rolfe = Niclas Sahlgren http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niclas_Sahlgren
- Adam Smith
- Eli Whitney
- Jan de Witt

Military:
- Ethan Allen
- Francisco de Coronado
- Hernan Cortes = Francisco de Almeida http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_de_Almeida
- Diego Velazquez de Cuellar = Jan van Riebeeck http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_van_Riebeeck
- Marquis de La Fayette
- John Paul Jones = William Kidd http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Kidd
- Paul Chomeday de Maisonneuve
- Dom Pedro I
- Francisco Pizarro
- Chief Powhatan = Diponegoro http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diponegoro
- Hernado de Soto = Aurangzeb http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangzeb
Resources:

- Fur/Coats will be replaced by Papaver/Opium

- Tobbaco/Cigars will be replaced by Hennep/Rope
Extra:

- Diplomatic Music and Text for some civ's
- Missing Pedia Text
- Founding Fathers: To replace all founding fathers myself would take a lot of time to think of them so if you have any ideas, post them in the forum

Other Mods

Plantation Economy
My mod is merged with Aymerick's Plantation Economy, for details visit: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=320916

New Europe Screen
My mod is merged with koma13's New Europe Screen, for details visit: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=294510

World Maps
My mod uses world maps made by NeverMind, for details visit: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=331729

Sailing Ships
This mod uses Ship reskins made by JustATourist, Refar and Walter Hawkwood, for details visit:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=276900 (JustATourist),
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=11489 (Refar & Walter Hawkwood)

Extra civ's Mod Mod
This mod mod by drjest2000 adds 4 new native civ's: http://www.filefront.com/14493343/East-Indies-Additions-Mod-Mod.rar/
- Hawaii - Leader: Kamehameha I (Animist, Prosperous)
- Madagascar - Leader: Radama I (Animist, Sophisticated *new trait*)
- Majapahit - Leader: Jayanegara (Hindu, Prosperous)
- Samoa - Leader: Titimaea (Animist, Gracious)


Download Links
2.16
CivFanatics:
- http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=13675


2.17 - This version still has issues, and might cause crashes during playing.
CivFanatics:
- http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=13549

Nice :)

Will you include the whole of India itself?

Yes the whole of India will be there, if I have a map

Cool. Here is a list of suggestions for colonies:

American East Indies (only had possessions in the area in the 19th century)
Austrian East Indies (had the Nicobar Islands, plus some possessions in the eastern coast of India; in the 19th century, an Austrian consul managed to get rights to North Borneo, but the Austrian government turned down the offer)
British East Indies
Danish East Indies (some possessions in India)
French East Indies (possessions in India, and Indochina in the 19th century)
Portuguese East Indies (had possessions spread out throughout the entire map)
Spanish East Indies (Philippines)

You insulted my Country! EVERYONE knows the Netherlands were in charge of what is currently Indonesia!!! ;)


EDIT: whoops, forgot the smiley

I don't think that majapahit fit the timeline(if my history memory right, their empire vanished in the beginning of 16 century, while dutch colonization happened in late 16 century).And sadly, after the decline of majapahit, no empire took it position as a major power in indonesia(oh well,the dutch did it:p).Here is the list of few empire that worth enough for me, but i don't think that all of them should be added(although as an indonesia, i'm glad to see all of them:lol:).

Sultanate of Demak
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demak_Sultanate

Samudera pasai
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samudera_Pasai

Sultanate of aceh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultanate_of_Aceh

You insulted my Country! EVERYONE knows the Netherlands were in charge of what is currently Indonesia!!! ;)


EDIT: whoops, forgot the smiley

I know, but it's already in his mod :p

I'm working on the portuguese. British, French and Spanish are already included. Danish and Austrian are a good idea Androrc :) And I'll steal Zheng Chenggong form Age of Discovery :P And i'm giving England, France, Netherlands & Spain 3 leaders.
I'm Dutch too by the way ;)

Another question: What's a better name 'The East Indies' or 'East India Companies'

East Indies and East India Company is a name limited to a small number of European countries. Maybe something like The Spice Route which was an important distinction for all European countries.

East Indies and East India Company is a name limited to a small number of European countries. Maybe something like The Spice Route which was an important distinction for all European countries.

Aye, you're right. I put the name "X East Indies" for them just to give them a pattern in naming, like "New Spain", "New France" and etc. is for the New World.

The Austrians did fail on the nicobar islands. You should read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_colonisation_of_Nicobar_Islands .

We had an Asian Colonization Mod going for a while, but no one's worked on it recently :(

Perhaps a download link to your mod in the first post would be helpful? For people who don't visit the download database often and instead browse the forums (like me...)?

Could you post a link Huayna?

Idea - Each Civ should get a different bonus from the 'locals'. For example, The British can recruit the vicious Gurkha Riflemen once they are given 'x' guns and 'x' coats. Just an idea.

I like the idea of the Hemispherical Islands mapscript. But is it possible to make it so that each civ actually starts in the west, rather than the east? Wouldn't that have been where the European ships arrived? (I may be wrong on this).

That said, I really like the mod.

I like the idea of the Hemispherical Islands mapscript. But is it possible to make it so that each civ actually starts in the west, rather than the east? Wouldn't that have been where the European ships arrived? (I may be wrong on this).

That said, I really like the mod.


Don't give me too much credit for the Hemispherical Islands, it's from 'Colonies of the New World'. :blush: I think it is possible to let them start in the west though. I think they all did come from the west, except for some spanish missions who started in New Spain (Mexico).

Idea - Each Civ should get a different bonus from the 'locals'. For example, The British can recruit the vicious Gurkha Riflemen once they are given 'x' guns and 'x' coats. Just an idea.


I think it's a really good idea. But I'm not really sure if I am able to do it :crazyeye: I'm still a bit of a noob in that kind of modding. And every country should be able to do it.

There is an easier way to do it, but then the unit won't be civ-specific and you'll have to send a colonist to a native city...

What do you think of a playable Mughal Empire? with the Timurid Dynasty as europe-civ.

you should do that CivLucas. The more civs, the funner this mod will be. I can't wait for this mod to come out, since it will be like a better way-improved version of my mod. :)

I just downloaded the version 2.11, and I came across a bug. The Europe and Revolution buttons don't seem to work. Even the F2 and F3 functions, respectively, don't work for those.

If you're going to expand this mod to the entire Asian Colonization period, perhaps a new subforum would be in order in the future? Mare Nostrum has one, and it's pretty much the same thing (Colonization in different time period).


Found the same thing as Master_Akura. Note that no European Water feature exists (on a Hemispherical Islands map), nor does the "Sail to Europe" button appear on the unit control panel (this is probably because the sailing to Europe command is impossible with no sailing-to-Europe area, and thus the game doesn't even show the button.) Thus, I assumed it was a feature. Is it a bug?

I think it's a really good idea. But I'm not really sure if I am able to do it :crazyeye: I'm still a bit of a noob in that kind of modding. And every country should be able to do it.

There is an easier way to do it, but then the unit won't be civ-specific and you'll have to send a colonist to a native city...

It could just be like sending a colonist to a native camp and training them, and you get a veteran (In this case a Gurkha) soldier. The bonuses should be Ranger I + II, to give them a territorial advantage. Or it could be the alternative to a veteran soldier for a converted native.

Not every country can have this bonus, as long as you want to be historically accurate. The Gurkhas could be the English colonial unique unit, and the redcoat could be the King/Queens. Although this is hard to incorporate into all the colonies, it can be done.

The Danish colonies could have a beefed up Privateer (+1 strength and cargo space) due to their piracy affiliations.

Just some food for thought.

By the way, Ove Gjedde wasn't really a Danish leader as much as an explorer, A good explorer founding father though. May I recommend Peter von Scholten. He built schoolhouses for overburdened slaves, so I would give him this trait:

Liberal: Free Schoolhouse in all settlements

Hadn't seen there was already a second page in this forum :P Version 2.12 will be up soon, I played it and seems to work fine, the Europe and Revolution screen are accesible. There are still some flaws though (one missing button, city names, etc.). I'm going on holiday tomorrow so don't expect any further changes the coming weeks. :)

It could just be like sending a colonist to a native camp and training them, and you get a veteran (In this case a Gurkha) soldier. The bonuses should be Ranger I + II, to give them a territorial advantage. Or it could be the alternative to a veteran soldier for a converted native.

Not every country can have this bonus, as long as you want to be historically accurate. The Gurkhas could be the English colonial unique unit, and the redcoat could be the King/Queens. Although this is hard to incorporate into all the colonies, it can be done.

The Danish colonies could have a beefed up Privateer (+1 strength and cargo space) due to their piracy affiliations.

Just some food for thought.

By the way, Ove Gjedde wasn't really a Danish leader as much as an explorer, A good explorer founding father though. May I recommend Peter von Scholten. He built schoolhouses for overburdened slaves, so I would give him this trait:

Liberal: Free Schoolhouse in all settlements

I will look into it when I get back :cool:
I thought I had read that Ove Gjedde was the founder of Trankebar, which was the main colony of denmark. About peter von scholten, he was governor-general of the west indies, which is in the caribbean area. ;) Danish East Indies were in India

Are there no East Indies map yet? Only randomly generated ones?

I will look into it when I get back :cool:
I thought I had read that Ove Gjedde was the founder of Trankebar, which was the main colony of denmark. About peter von scholten, he was governor-general of the west indies, which is in the caribbean area. ;) Danish East Indies were in India

Just a suggestion. Good 'ole Ove did find Trankebar. But he was like a Danish Vasco da Gama.

Just a suggestion. Good 'ole Ove did find Trankebar. But he was like a Danish Vasco da Gama.

Danish? I guess you just misprinted.

Vasco da Gama was a Portuguese explorer, one of the most successful in the European Age of Discovery and the commander of the first ships to sail directly from Europe to India.

Details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasco_da_Gama

Danish? I guess you just misprinted.

Vasco da Gama was a Portuguese explorer, one of the most successful in the European Age of Discovery and the commander of the first ships to sail directly from Europe to India.

Details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasco_da_Gama

Lol, I said he was like a Danish Vasco da Gama (i.e. Ove Gjedde was to Denmark what Vasco da Gama was to Portugal)

Any chance we can have an opium resource (sorry if it was already added and I missed it.)

An opium resource would be good. Though it should have its penalties (e.g. if you store opium in a city, you get -1 hammers, yields, crosses etc.)

But make it yield a crap load of money to compensate.

How would you add the 2radius mod to this one?

Where can you get this download, the link is broken?

Where can you get this download, the link is broken?

This link is working.

http://www.filefront.com/14119399/The-East-Indies-2.12.rar

sounds awesome. i cant realy think of any recaomndations, that's how good it is.:goodjob:

There was a wrong link in this forum, it's correct now :) I'll do the Opium after the holiday. What about Papaver as raw recource and then Opium as refined resource? Does anyone know if there's Opium in Rise of Mankind, because I could then use those graphics. :)

Idk. Opium should be:

- Rare/Uncommon
- Low Yield
- High cost
- Work penalties for havign it in the city.

There was a wrong link in this forum, it's correct now :) I'll do the Opium after the holiday. What about Papaver as raw recource and then Opium as refined resource? Does anyone know if there's Opium in Rise of Mankind, because I could then use those graphics. :)

World Of Civilization 1.20 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=11374) has an Opium resource...

I just downloaded the version 2.11, and I came across a bug. The Europe and Revolution buttons don't seem to work. Even the F2 and F3 functions, respectively, don't work for those.

I have the same issue. I thought it might have been some sort of modification to not let you see what was available in Europe unless you have a ship there, but I sent a ship to Europe, its telling me I have a ship waiting at the docks but it won't let me use the Europe screen!

Has anyone else run into this issue!?

ADDENDUM: This happened playing as New China, which I prefer to play because of their food bonus. I'll try an actual European civ to see if that makes a difference ...

ADDENDUM 2: Playing as New Denmark, I had no problem accessing the Europe screen.

Further, there were no "Europe" sea squares I could see when I was playing New China; this stumped me but when I had my ship try to sail to Europe, it instantly vanished so I thought that might have been some sort of modification. However, the European sea squares do show up playing as New Denmark.

I will try playing several games as Europe and China to see if this "Europe" bug is repeatable.

I have tested every civ several times and found Denmark to be the ONLY civ with a king! All the others (British, Chinese, Dutch, French, Burghal, Portuguese) do not have a king in the players list, the Europe sea squares are invisible and there is no access to a Europe screen. I have replicated this time and time again, and re-confirmed that Danish East Indies loads a king each time, has visible Europe sea squares and regular access to the Europe screen.

I have also found that when playing as a non-Danish civ and encountering the Danes, there is no music or text on their greeting message.

It would be hard for me to believe only one other person has encountered this problem.

I have tested every civ several times and found Denmark to be the ONLY civ with a king! All the others (British, Chinese, Dutch, French, Burghal, Portuguese) do not have a king in the players list, the Europe sea squares are invisible and there is no access to a Europe screen. I have replicated this time and time again, and re-confirmed that Danish East Indies loads a king each time, has visible Europe sea squares and regular access to the Europe screen.

I have also found that when playing as a non-Danish civ and encountering the Danes, there is no music or text on their greeting message.

It would be hard for me to believe only one other person has encountered this problem.

That is very strange, I just tried a few different civ's on different maps and all seems to be fine. When I press f2 or f3 I get the right screens. There is a king that I can talk to and there are europe squares on the map. Maybe you don't have the most recent update (or I don't) ?

Edit: I have 1.01f

??? I have 2.12.

I play on the largest map on Marathon setting.

On further testing, it only happens on Colossal sized maps. Giant and smaller has a king and Euro sea squares.

Very strange that the Colossal sized map gives only Denmark a king. I wonder what causes this.

??? I have 2.12.

I play on the largest map on Marathon setting.

He means the Col patch. Do you have it?

Yes, I do

I have no idea why from the two map sizes I added, colossal doesn't work but giant does. I've removed it from the next version which will be ready in 2 weeks or so.

Download link on The East Indies 2.13 file doesn't work. Could you please fix this error or give the direct link to your file. Thank you in advance.

It'll be up, once it's been approved by the site.

It'll be up, once it's been approved by the site.

Are you sure? Now the link for The East Indies 2.13 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=13035) has such message "This file is in the moderation queue".

Maybe add a volcano as a terrain feature? Is that possible? Krakatoa is a spectacular example of the volcanoes of the East Indies :)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads/col2map_indonesia_mk0.jpg

Hi, CivLucas!

This Indonesia map (184x104) seems to be very close to what you want, except India. I think we could add India, but it will be a very huge map - about 230x104. Do you have enough tribes to settle such a map? :)

I have no idea why from the two map sizes I added, colossal doesn't work but giant does. I've removed it from the next version which will be ready in 2 weeks or so. You have to add some lines to map scripts (not New World, but Caribbean and FaireWeather for sure) in order to use more World sizes.

Check my changes in Caribbean.py as a template.

from CvPythonExtensions import *
import CvUtil
import CvMapGeneratorUtil
import random
import sys
from math import sqrt
from CvMapGeneratorUtil import FractalWorld
from CvMapGeneratorUtil import TerrainGenerator
from CvMapGeneratorUtil import FeatureGenerator

###===NM=====Extra World Sizes=1/2======0===
WorldSizeTypes.WORLDSIZE_XXL=WorldSizeTypes.WORLDS IZE_HUGE+1
WorldSizeTypes.WORLDSIZE_GIANT=WorldSizeTypes.WORL DSIZE_XXL+1
WorldSizeTypes.WORLDSIZE_ULTRA=WorldSizeTypes.WORL DSIZE_GIANT+1
###===NM=====Extra World Sizes=1/2======X===

def getDescription():
return "TXT_KEY_MAP_SCRIPT_CARIBBEAN_DESCR"

def isAdvancedMap():
"This map should show up in simple mode"
return 0

def getWrapX():
return False
def getWrapY():
return False


def getGridSize(argsList):
"Reduce grid sizes by one level."
grid_sizes = {
WorldSizeTypes.WORLDSIZE_TINY: (40,24),
WorldSizeTypes.WORLDSIZE_SMALL: (52,32),
WorldSizeTypes.WORLDSIZE_STANDARD: (64,40),
WorldSizeTypes.WORLDSIZE_LARGE: (84,48),
###===NM=====Extra World Sizes=2/2======0===
WorldSizeTypes.WORLDSIZE_HUGE: (104,64),
WorldSizeTypes.WORLDSIZE_XXL: (140,88),
WorldSizeTypes.WORLDSIZE_GIANT: (180,120),
WorldSizeTypes.WORLDSIZE_ULTRA: (240,150)
###===NM=====Extra World Sizes=2/2======X===
}

Thanks for the Indonesia map, it's great. :D I haven't added any Indian natives so I could already start with a scenario. But one with India would be cooler (because a lot of the colonies-leaders are from India). There are 8 natives so far and was planning on 7 more. Do you think that'll be enough?
I could even add Aborigines seeing that Australia is on the map ;)

When ever I try to extract the 2.12 file to the Mod folder or anywhere else the file freezes. Is there anything I can do, or is 2.13 already available to DL? Haven't checked the above link yet.

2.13 is finally there :D

Two maps are ready to be used in the mod :)

1. Giant 215x108. I merged India and Indonesia maps. Unfortunately India turned out to be downscaled. Anyway, take a look at it.
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/41/eastindies01.jpg

2. Standard 53x32 (cut from Carter's World Map)
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9730/eastindies02.jpg

Nice maps, even better concept!

Awesome! thank you really much :D I'm going to Spain today so it'll take a while before it can be implemented. I still need to figure out the scenario thing though. Is it hard to place the native cities?

I'm lost
Which one is the newest available version??
2.12 or 2.13?
The first post said 2.13, but the download link said 2.12

CivLucas, I am sure you know all of this already, but in case you don't, here's a few things that might help in making a scenario map:

EUROPEAN COLONIAL/MERCHANTILE POWERS IN INDIA 1501 - 1739

BRITISH: Honorable East India Company
1612 Surat
1638 Bombay
1639 Madras
1658 Hughli (from Portuguese)
1682 Vizagapatam
1690 Calcutta

DANISH
1620 Tranquebar
1675 Serampore

FRENCH
1673-1674 Matara (from Dutch)
1674 Pondicherry
1675 Chandernagar
1725 Mahe
1725 Yanam
1739 Karikal

NETHERLANDS: Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie
1600 Pulicat*
1616 Masulipatam*
1639 Trincomale* (from Portuguese)
1653 Chinsura* (from Portuguese)
1656 Columbo* (from Portuguese)
1656 Galle* (from Portuguese)
1656 Matara* (from Portuguese, lost to French 1673, regained 1674)
1658 Jaffna*
1658 Nagapatam* (from Portuguese)
1669 Cochin* (from Portuguese)
1670 Sadras*
*ceded to British 1825 in exchange for holdings in Sumatra (Indonesia).

PORTUGUESE
1498 Calicut (gives us the word "calico")
1500 Cochin
1501 Cannanore
1505 Columbo (lost to Dutch 1656)
1507 Galle (lost to Dutch 1656)
1507 Matara (lost to Dutch 1656)
1507 Nagapatam (lost to Dutch 1658)
1522 Trincomale (lost to Dutch 1639)
1533 Baçaim
1535 Diu
1537 Hughli (lost to British 1658)
1558 Daman
1610 Goa
1625 Chinsura (lost to Dutch 1653)

SPAIN: Indias Orientales Españolas
There were settlements or trading posts by the Spanish in India proper, but it's unclear if they were distinct from those of the Portugese or shared ports for most of the period.

Here are some images for the flags and such >_<

I hope this helps make a great mod even better!

I really love this MOD...well done to all involved!!!


Some Issues/(bugs maybe?):
I can't make the Jesuit Missionary setup in an Indian village.
Did it change from the old way? Am I missing something? Any ideas?


btw
I want to NOT have to declare Independance...I just want to win by Domination/Cultural ways...but the game does NOT work when I try and load a CUSTOM GAME. It freezes.

Idea: The Chinese gave cities to Europeans for clearing out pirates.

Maybe you could use the Kings Commission Mod and make it so the Natives will tell you to get rid off marauding pirates in exchange for a city or gold?

Can anyone provide some helpful instructions on how to install this mod after I've downloaded it? Thanks!

Axis Kast, same as with the whaling mod:

Place the extracted folder in your MODS folder.

The usual location is in your documents folder:

~(My) Documents\My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization IV Colonization\MODS

watch out for a double folder

after it is installed to the MODS folder, start the game as usual, then select the ADVANCED item from the menu, on the next screen select LOAD MOD

+++ OR +++

The same except create a MODS folder in the Colinization program folders:

~Program Files\2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization IV Colonization\Mods

It will be a different location in Windows Vista and requires some additional beating:

You will need to take ownership of the parent folder ( Sid Meier's Civilization IV Colonization ) . Right-click it, then select Properties, then select the Security tab then select Advanced, then select the Owner tab. There you need to take possession of the folder and grant yourself full permissions.... or just use the first method, it's far easier LOL

Can anyone provide some helpful instructions on how to install this mod after I've downloaded it? Thanks!

I've a odd question about installation. I've been having some trouble reloading my Civ IV: BTS disk (it's old) so I decided what the hell and got the Civ Pack through Steam so I'd get Colonization. Well there are still remnants of BTS on my system where all my mods are so I have a place to unpack mods like LoR, RoM or FfH.

However, since Colonization is through steam, I can't find anything on my system other than saved games. So where (if it is possible) to I have to unpack this mod to? Do I have to manually create a sort of C:\Program Files\Firaxis\Sid Meiers|Colonization type folder?

Also, I'm new to Colonization (or at least the Civ IV version) and I was surprised how 'meek' the natives are. Sure I've been paying them for their land in the few games I've played but in the original Colonization, there were always bands of disgruntled natives.

Anyway, I have yet to play this mod, but does it have 'barbarians' in the form of pirates? The whole Sumatra strait was a hive of pirates and Taiwan was a haven for the same for many a year.

CivLucas, a big post and I apologise up front if this sounds pushy or something, I don't mean it that way at all.

I have been thinking about this since I started posting. I really enjoy the East Indies mod and probably play it more than any other mod I have downloaded. I don't know if it "needs" improving, but I have wondered if you would be interested in adding the Japanese and Pacific islanders as natives. I know the Portuguese were active in Japan very early in the period as well as the Dutch. Japan was a major source of income for the Portuguese and brought high quality finished goods like silk and porcelain into the European markets. The Catholic Church ( especially the Jesuits and Dominicans ) was ( were ) interested in the Japanese as a potential military force to combat the growing Protestant menace in Europe and as a invasion force to displace "heathen" states and powers in India and Asia, and made numerous attempts to Christianize the Japans until they became such a threat to the Shogunate that it resulted in the Closed Door policy with only the Dutch having access.

By the 1800s the whole of the Pacific basin was partitioned where almost every rock that stood above the tides was being used as a depot to refresh water supplies and repairing sails and masts for shipping lanes. Later these became coaling stations, but that's outside the time frame of the game. But even remote places like Rapa Nui (Easter Island), the Galapagos, and Wake Island became important to the Europeans. Many places and technologies that were formerly vital became unimportant after the excavations of the Suez and Panama Canals, for example Yankee clipper ships lost their importance when the Panama canal opened. After the opening of these two canals, only those powers that were in disfavor with the powers controlling the canals had to use the older routes rounding the Horns of Africa and South America, and that became a mere inconvenience after the development of steam engines and stabilizing gyroscopes.

As arkham4269 points out, pirates in the East Indies were always a menace to trade, even today we see it on the news. I have seen the entry in the Civ Info XML for barbarians, so I have wondered why they have not yet been harnessed as sea faring marauders. Even if all they do is sink ships, it would add the "danger" element that is largely lacking from the game's transportation of goods. The reason the European powers built large navies wasn't to wage war on one another, although they did quite often enough, but to protect their cash flow from the West and East Indies. In fact, I have often wondered why it is that the King doesn't simply impound any ship you send to Europe when you refuse a tax increase. If he has the power to refuse to trade a commodity with you and cut you off from Europe altogether, why not confiscate all your goods until you cave in and say yes? Hell, why do you even have a chance to refuse a tax increase until you declare independence? The historical colonies certainly didn't have this choice presented them LOL

Pepper, nutmeg, cinnamon, cardamom, and other spices of India, East Asia, and the "Spice Islands" were the main economic cause for initial European interest in area. Spices were a virtual gold mine for the European powers and even the Germans became involved in both missionary and colonization efforts - albeit late in the history of European colonial effort.

Cocoa (not coca), coffee, and then tea became fashionable and even addictive substances in the European market - each commodity developed a "coffee house" cult in its turn, leading to the importation of vast quantities of cocoa beans, coffee beans, and tea leaves into the European and colonial markets. The upshot of this was the establishment of cocoa, coffee, and tea plantations being located in any region with a climate suitable to the cultivation of these goods.

Latex and rubber were curiosities but became important commodities by 1820 or so, but that's too late a date for interest in historical game play. However, opium poppies which incidentally are native to the Mediterranean basin, became a crucial economic commodity fairly early on, resulting in opium plantations being established in many places. The native demand for opium due to addiction displaced the rum trade early on and became very lucrative, even crucial to the economy of the European powers in the East Indies.

Hemp also played a vital role in the economy of the time, being an absolute must for durable sails and ropes, displacing cotton for sails by 1650 in the Asian trade zone. Hemp became so important a commodity in the age of sail that hemp cultivation became globalized and hemp plantations were established every where the European powers went.

So I have wondered if there is any chance of having spice, cocoa, tea, hemp, and opium added as commodities to the MORE YIELDS module. By the 1700s you see pineapple, sugar, and tobacco being introduce in the East Indies, but largely sugar and tobacco are anachronisms in the East Indies, so a simple substitution of opium poppies with its finished good being opium could replace the sugar/rum commodity and hemp with a finish commodity of rope could replace tobacco/cigars.

Tea is maybe more historically important that either coffee or cocoa, but it could be added in a manner similar to that of indigo and coffee since it really doesn't under-go much of a "finished good" process.

I have already added Hawaii and Samoa to my install of 1.3 and it hasn't unbalanced the game play, but I am uncertain which personality and traits really are best suited to them. I'd like to know what personality and traits you'd think would make them work best with your design. I'm working on Japan now, what I'd really like to do is have the Japanese be like they are in Civ 4, a stone wall of diplomacy, rather than the suck-ups all the natives seem to be in the vanilla game engine. LOL

Also, I'm new to Colonization (or at least the Civ IV version) and I was surprised how 'meek' the natives are. Sure I've been paying them for their land in the few games I've played but in the original Colonization, there were always bands of disgruntled natives.

Anyway, I have yet to play this mod, but does it have 'barbarians' in the form of pirates? The whole Sumatra strait was a hive of pirates and Taiwan was a haven for the same for many a year.

Arkham4269, I'm not certain about the Steam version, do a file search for Charlemagne.CivBeyondSwordWBSave and look for a duplicate in a file folder other than the one you know. That will be a first step in locating the new Steam BTS mods folder.

In regard to drjest2000's post about the King in regard to seizing ships is another thing that I'd expect is that you'd occasionally lose ships or sailors to impression.

As I said on another forum one of my biggest problems with Col2 is that the European Powers never seem to go to war with each. The whole reason King George III's administration raised taxes was they felt that after three colonial wars (as well as fighting the French & Dutch elsewhere) that the colonies needed to start footing more of the bill for their own defenses.

That would mean that the King should have forces in the New World and be there to help you out. I mean a colony couldn't expect to fight off a group of regulars from a rival country by itself.

Now in the East Indies, the companies where more like their own countries so this shouldn't be as pronounced, but at least there should be something going on like in Sid Meier's Pirates! when you'd get announcements that countries where at war. Perhaps the colonists will fight as well but might let it ride due to other issues. I mean if you have to deal with natives, fighting other Europeans might be a bit down the list of things to do.

Again I think that depending on if there is a war or not, the home country would send a few regulars out to help the colonists and also to lean on the colonists as independence talk kicks up. I mean having to quarter the king's troops in homes was one of the big gripes we had against George III.

Arkham4269, I'm not certain about the Steam version, do a file search for Charlemagne.CivBeyondSwordWBSave and look for a duplicate in a file folder other than the one you know. That will be a first step in locating the new Steam BTS mods folder.

Found it! So, for Col2 mods, do I need to create a Mod folder? The BTS has a mod folder but I don't see one for Col2

Col2 doesn't seem to suffer the same issues that Civ 4 does with the mods folder being in your Documents folder, some people say that mods work better on the install folder, but it hasn't been an issue on my XP system. It's probably different under Vista (which I am avoiding like cholera).

I'd say try installing the mods in your "My Games" folder first, if it gets hinky, then try creating a MODS folder in the Col2 install folder.

People have (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=330521) reported errors when installing mods to the My Games directory.

So making the mod folder in the Program Files directory is a much better idea.

Even with Steam, was able to get this mod loaded and am playing.

One small gripe though...going to Europe still goes via the right side of the screen.

Shouldn't it be coming from the left side and going right? (West to East?)

Plus is there a recommended map? I'm just using the FaireWeather map that came with the mod.

hello everyone,
I've returned from my holidays in Spain. So i'll answer all the questions.
@ i_diavolorosso. 2.13 is the newest version, I forgot to change the link in the forum.

@ drjest2000. Thanks for the research ;) I was actually planning to only place native cities in the scenario map though, and then arrive by boat as a colonist. :cool:

@ SunTzu_vs_Camus. Thanks :D About the Jesuit, I believe it's still possible but just not a pop-up. So you should choose it in the actions bar. (This was not intentional btw). About the independance freeze, i'll look into it.

@ I-am-a-panda. I think I'm not experienced enough to do that:mischief:, and there are some more urgent things to do for the mod;)

@ drjest2000. The More the merrier. If you could send them to me if they're finished i can add the extra natives in 2.14. About the extra resources, it's a lot of work to add another resource, but changing one is doable. I was already planning on changing fur/coats to papaver/opium. About sugar and tobacco, if you would change them you do need an extra refined resource. The Leaders in this mod are from a timeline from 1520 - 1800 by the way, so they aren't such a big anachronism.

I hope everything is solved now :)

After some wikipedia research I found out that Sugarcane has its origine in India and New-Guinea, and was a great deal of the trade in the East Indies.
I overlooked your comment over Hemp/Rope as a substitute for Tobacco/Cigars, which is a good idea.

@Civlucas
Is it possible to have a mirror??
Because you're file is very big, and atomic gamer, that has many speed limit, and does not support "pause n resume" isn't a good site for those who have slow connetion

Ehm what do you mean by mirror?

Ehm what do you mean by mirror?
Other link from other site to download a file.In this case, a link outside atomic gamer to download your mod.
Internet user usually called it "mirror";)

Ok, so just the same but on an other site, like filefront?

Ok, so just the same but on an other site, like filefront?
Yep:goodjob:
Filefront is ok btw

CivLucas here is the file with the civs I have added:

East Indies Additions Mod Mod.rar (http://www.filefront.com/14493343/East%20Indies%20Additions%20Mod%20Mod.rar) -- 9.64 MB (10,111,410 bytes) -- hosted at FileFront

Civs I have added:

Hawaii - Leader: Kamehameha I (Animist, Prosperous)
Madagascar - Leader: Radama I (Animist, Sophisticated *new trait*)
Majapahit - Leader: Jayanegara (Hindu, Prosperous)
Samoa - Leader: Titimaea (Animist, Gracious)

On a different note, I notice that the TXT_KEY_TRAIT_AGRICULTURAL_SHORT is missing from the China Game Text file. I corrected it easily by adding:


<TEXT>
<Tag>TXT_KEY_TRAIT_AGRICULTURAL_SHORT</Tag>
<English>Agr</English>
<French>Agr</French>
<German>Agr</German>
<Italian>Agr</Italian>
<Spanish>Agr</Spanish>
</TEXT>

I added the link to the 1st post.

Awesome :goodjob:

very cool, thank you CivLucas! I also see that you've added some great new civs for 2.14 I am loving it! and the future aadditions all look fanatastic. I really love this mod *Important note: grossly inappropriate anime fan girl squee noises are NOT being made by the author*

I'm happy to tell everyone that all the natives have been finished :D

I am downloading and playing 2.15 at once LOL Thanks for all your work, CivLucas! Dank U zeer!

downloading and playing how? Graag gedaan ;)

playing on the giant map with all the civs I can manage LOL

still, 18 minutes to complete download =(

I love this Mod and want to get it working correctly but alas I am not too gifted in coding dept.

I'm embarrassed to ask...but I'm having some trouble (Tag errors for the new Civs) and was wondering do I just place the files in the correct folders or do I have to merge all the XML files for each Civ into the main game one (ie-CIV4CivilizationsSchema.xml)? Is it reading from the mods folder initially so I don't have to do that? I'm getting errors about the Tags of some of these new Civs that were added.


Any help would be very much appreciated!

I think putting the files in the stated folders should work, you do have to copy the maps over the existing ones:

Step 1: Paste 'CIV4CivilizationInfos.XML in MODS/The East Indies 2.15/Assets/XML/Civilizations/
Step 2: Paste the 3 maps in 'Extraciv's' in MODS/The East Indies 2.15/Assets/Modules/Custom Civilizations/

Never paste anything in the Program files of Civilization, if that's wat you're asking, always in the mod's folder.

I tried it out for myself and it's working fine. Keep in mind the Civ4...Infos.xml needs to be in XML and not in the Modules. And that you don't paste the "Esxtraciv's" map but the 3 maps in the "extraciv's" map.

When you say "Map"...do you mean "folder"?

yes, sorry. 'Map' is dutch :mischief:

Hey guys!

I'm new here, and I'd like to ask a quick question. I try to start The East Indies from the shortcut folder, but the following message appears: "The drive or network connection that the shortcut "Civilization IV Colonization- East Indies .lnk" refers to is unavailable. Make sure the disk is proprely inserted or the network resource is available, and than try again".

Any suggestions on how to fix this and run the game with the mod?
I'd really appreciate any replies!

Thanks!! :P

Do you have two hard drives? Because then maybe the shortcut is leading to your Civilization folder in C:\ while on your pc it's actually in D:\ (or any other drive)?

This mod looks absolutely amazing. You deserve an award for it.

However, I'm running on version 2.15 (with the patch and the extra Civs addon) and the game crashes at the loading screen with no explanation as to what's wrong. Has anyone else had this problem and were they able to fix it?

If it's important I'm running Colonization 1.01f on Vista.

This mod looks absolutely amazing. You deserve an award for it.

However, I'm running on version 2.15 (with the patch and the extra Civs addon) and the game crashes at the loading screen with no explanation as to what's wrong. Has anyone else had this problem and were they able to fix it?

If it's important I'm running Colonization 1.01f on Vista.

I don't have Vista myself so I don't know if that's a problem. Did you have the problem without the patch? and without the civs addon?

I've fixed it myself. Re-downloaded the mod and inexplicably, everything works now. It's an amazing mod.

I noticed your message in the Continents.py download page, so I did some investigating.

The problem is that python files (at least, as used by Civ IV) cannot have a space in their name. That's why Firaxis puts "_" in their mapscript names instead of spaces (A_New_World, not A New World), and why I tend to just get rid of the spaces entirely (NorthAfrica, not North Africa, or WildWest, not Wild West).

Both Hemispherical Islands and A New World in your Public Maps folder do not have spaces, and therefore, whenever I go into the Play Now or Custom Game menus I get a string of python exceptions.

Inserting "_" or getting rid of the spaces entirely fixed the issue for me, and all maps showed up properly.

Great work. I've only played it once, but I like it. I did notice that it runs a little slower than vanilla (and AoDII) and it eventually crashed on me. I don't don't know why, but if it continues to happen I'll try to pay closer attention.

Update: The crashing seems to only happen on the huge East Indies map. I'm playing the mod on the East Asia map with no problems right now. Does anyone else have trouble on the huge East Indies map?

Hello everybody,
One big update coming up :) I hope it'll be up today.

I think putting the files in the stated folders should work, you do have to copy the maps over the existing ones:

Step 1: Paste 'CIV4CivilizationInfos.XML in MODS/The East Indies 2.15/Assets/XML/Civilizations/
Step 2: Paste the 3 maps in 'Extraciv's' in MODS/The East Indies 2.15/Assets/Modules/Custom Civilizations/

Never paste anything in the Program files of Civilization, if that's wat you're asking, always in the mod's folder.

CivLucas,
I got an error similar to the one you gave out this solution. I'd like to try this fix but I don't understand which CIV4CivilizationInfos.XML I have to paste and which 3 maps I have to paste too. It seems clear that I have to paste inside the East Indies folder.
I have this doubt because with 2.17 there's already a CIV4CivilizationInfos.XML file inside that folder.
thank you for any help.

Sorry, I guess I didn't put it very clear. But the 2.15.b update is already in 2.17 so you don't have to paste a thing :) It's just like any other mod.

Well, but I got these error messages about new civs. You said that it is suffucuent to put the folder or into My Games or in the folder's game, isn't it ?
But it's not starting anyway.
No way of helping me ?

Ehm, where did you paste the folder 'The East Indies 2.17' exactly?

Now it is inside 2K Games/Firaxis/Sid Meier...Colonization/MODS.
I tried to put it into Documents/My Games/Sid Meier.../MODS but it's not working anyway.
One thing: I have the Age of discovery II mod inside My Games and this one is working instead !

weird, do you have the latest version of the game?

No, not still. Do you think I should update ?

No, not still. Do you think I should update ?
Of course you have to:)
And update it manually.The in game updater can't be trusted:p

Very well,
I updated the game and it's working BUT East Indies starts but I cannot see the names of most of the leaders when I select my side.
What do I do ?

Do you have the right Civ4CivilizationInfos.XML , the one from 2.17?

Yes, it is inside 2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's...\MODS\Assets\XML\Civilizations, 323 KB.

Maybe there is some stuff in CustomAssets that's interfering

Which stuff re you suspecting ?

If you don't put anything in there that you want to keep, i'd delete all the files there. (Don't know if you can just delete all the folders)

Hi, I really like the concept of this mod and started playing it today.
However the first time the game crashed when I was doing a normal move on the mainland (no tribal villages or attacks, Danish scout). Didn't think much of it and restarted.

Second time I played with the mongols (or something like that) and I noticed that the first three or so times I entered the Europe screen everything was fine. After that however the bottom trade bar and the three immigrant reruits were missing. I could sell resources from the ship and I could buy normal full price immigrants though. This worked for a few times until I tried buying an elder statesman. It didn't show up on the docks but I did see a load unit button on the ship. I tried loading and it crashed.

Using Vista. When stability increases I'll try this mod again. Great work!

i've been having problems like that too, maybe I put it up a bit too hastily ;) I really don't know what causes all this trouble. I only added new units and flags...

I'll upload 2.16 one of these days which doesn't include the ships and can be played.

i've been having problems like that too, maybe I put it up a bit too hastily ;) I really don't know what causes all this trouble. I only added new units and flags...

I'll upload 2.16 one of these days which doesn't include the ships and can be played.

Please do upload 2.16. I just got the game a few days ago on
ebay and loaded your 2.17 and started playing. I was having
fun. The first few turns the Europe screen had no exit button.
After the king started taxing me the exit button showed up.
A couple of turns later I think I purchased a vet soldier, made
him dragoon, and then noticed the goods bar and the folks on
the dock gone forever it seems.

I've been busy formatting my pc, so it takes a little longer. Do the other downloaders have problems, is my question. Since it's been downloaded almost 500 times now...

So, CivLucas, I started playing 2.15 while I wait for 2.16 or
a fix for 2.17. I was playing on the India map and having such
fun, but then it crashed. Boo Hoo! Please upload 2.16 so I can
try again.

I've been working on 2.16 these days, implemented some things from 2.17 that don't cause crashes. And it seems to work great, played a caribbean game for 300 turns and no crashes at all. :D

I've been working on 2.16 these days, implemented some things from 2.17 that don't cause crashes. And it seems to work great, played a caribbean game for 300 turns and no crashes at all. :D

So, CivLucas, I am downloading version 2.16. But amazingly I
am on turn 170 using 2.17 on the India map with no problems.
Perhaps the problem is map specific? I wanted to tell you what
fun I am having. The original Colonization is an old favorite.
And India is a place I am fascinated with. So I have gone in
as the British, looking for my favorites, the Bengalis, to save them from the Mughal menace. Ha! Not exactly the goal the designers had in mind? But anyhow I am sort of a fan of yours. The only way
to make it better for me would be if the ships started on the Bengal side side of the map and there was a playable Hindu faction. But anyhow I am playing Colonization in India so it is
great, thanks for making it. Ted

Thank you, I'm glad you like it :). Starting in the east would be a bit odd, since the europeans came from the west. :P I've been thinking of a hindu civ too, was thinking about the maratha empire, if you could help me out to find 3 good leaders, and 3 leaderheads (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=cat&id=37) I can create it pretty fast :D

Can you still buy guys in the europe screen though? Because that was the biggest error.

Edit: One big problem with the Maratha's is the city names, they mostly conquered cities so might be already in the game.

Thank you, I'm glad you like it :). Starting in the east would be a bit odd, since the europeans came from the west. :P I've been thinking of a hindu civ too, was thinking about the maratha empire, if you could help me out to find 3 good leaders, and 3 leaderheads (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=cat&id=37) I can create it pretty fast :D

Can you still buy guys in the europe screen though? Because that was the biggest error.

Edit: One big problem with the Maratha's is the city names, they mostly conquered cities so might be already in the game.

Hi, I am slow and still just on turn 230 but no problems, Europe screen or anywhere. I have almost all the map uncovered and never did find a Bengali though. I have a world history book that is telling me the big man in Maratha is Sivaji, who established the kingdom in 1674.Two other notables were Sindhia and Holkar.
Amazingly almost all the hindu looking folks were on page one in the link, taxiles, porus and chibinda. I am just scratching the
surface here, seeing the heads of such as hitler, aliens, aquaman, dr doom, Rama, and beowulf really send my mind to spinning.
But is still the Bengalis that get me, The rest here from wiki...
The "Bengal renaissance can be said to have started with Raja Ram Mohan Roy (1775-1833) and ended with Rabindranath Tagore (1861-1941]
Nineteenth century Bengal was a unique blend of religious and social reformers, scholars, literary giants, journalists, patriotic orators and scientists, all merging to form the image of a renaissance, and marked the transition from the 'medieval' to the 'modern'. During this period, Bengal witnessed an intellectual awakening that is in some way similar to the Renaissance in Europe during the 16th century. Thanks again, Ted

New user....die hard player!!

I'm trying to download the 2.16 east indies patch (The discription sounds really great, nice work CivLucas).
But the download is going to takes 5 hours! Is that normal?:sad:

New user....die hard player!!

I'm trying to download the 2.16 east indies patch (The discription sounds really great, nice work CivLucas).
But the download is going to takes 5 hours! Is that normal?:sad:

It's quite a large file, because of all the leaderheads. And of course if you have or haven't got a fast internet connection.

By the way it's not a patch or something, just an earlier version that I made but hadn't uploaded ;)

Hi, I don't know if this will help, but before I started my
latest game I had reset some xp configs to "Let windows
decide the size of swap file and let windows choose between
programs and background priorities." Back to Maratha, their
overseas king could be Rama, let the other players wonder
where the stuff comes from. : ) About east side-west side, if you
are in a port near the bay of Bengal and you see a ship on the
horizon, you don't know if it came from east or west. I may have
to break down and try to figure out how to make games, I would
like to see the Vikings. Several Viking kings vie for control of
Europe? And modern day, the USA splits up, it seems to me the
possibilities are endless. The rules can be warped. By the way CivLucas, I never did find any Bengalis, do you know why? Were they wiped out before I got to their area or were they just not on the India map, do you remember?

The civ's and cities on the maps are still random, as I'm not really a map-maker I haven't looked into it yet.
Vikings and USA don't really fit in, I want to keep it as historically as possible and to keep the timeline from 1500 to 1800.

It's quite a large file, because of all the leaderheads. And of course if you have or haven't got a fast internet connection.

By the way it's not a patch or something, just an earlier version that I made but hadn't uploaded ;)

Normaly the speed of my internet connection is perfect. So i tried to reboot en retry the download. But it wasn't possibble to download the file at all. I got looped back to the download button, time after time.?!

Anyway, thanks for the reaction. I'll solve it out, one way or another.

I'll create another mirror, maybe that could help.

The civ's and cities on the maps are still random, as I'm not really a map-maker I haven't looked into it yet.
Vikings and USA don't really fit in, I want to keep it as historically as possible and to keep the timeline from 1500 to 1800.

Hi CivLucas, I have found the bengalis in about the year 1760.
And my ramblings about Vikings and USA, that would be 2 new
projects from scratch, nothing to do with your current project.
Could you kindly tell me in a nutshell, make it easy for me, how
to get started making a scenario. Say I want to make the Viking
edition, could I save time using a map of Europe that someone else
has already made and just convert it to how I like it. What tools and resources will I need to pull it off? The only scenario making
I ever tried was a couple on age of rifles and one on unlimited
adventures. Some of my favorite games have been Conquest of the new world deluxe, Hammer of the Gods, History of the world, Kingmaker, Son of legends, shining force, rings of power.
I have updated my profile, I have a son older than you, he teaches me stuff on computer from time to time. Thankksss, Ted
I'm just a big kid.

how can i install the indies2.16? Tedrock, maybe you can help me?

Unrar or paste it into your My Documents\My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization IV Colonization\MODS\
folder. Then use the shortcut which is in the mod (for exact place see downloadpage) or you can just start up colonization and at options choose 'load a mod'

Hi CivLucas, I have found the bengalis in about the year 1760.
And my ramblings about Vikings and USA, that would be 2 new
projects from scratch, nothing to do with your current project.
Could you kindly tell me in a nutshell, make it easy for me, how
to get started making a scenario. Say I want to make the Viking
edition, could I save time using a map of Europe that someone else
has already made and just convert it to how I like it. What tools and resources will I need to pull it off? The only scenario making
I ever tried was a couple on age of rifles and one on unlimited
adventures. Some of my favorite games have been Conquest of the new world deluxe, Hammer of the Gods, History of the world, Kingmaker, Son of legends, shining force, rings of power.
I have updated my profile, I have a son older than you, he teaches me stuff on computer from time to time. Thankksss, Ted
I'm just a big kid.

Hey, you should ask NeverMind or some of the other colonization map-makers, He made them all for me. There is a guide on how to transform civ4 maps into colonization maps somewhere on this site. And I believe that's what NeverMind also did. And I saw several map maker programmes for civ4 which you might also want to use. But fore more info you should ask somebody else. :goodjob:

it works... perfect. Thanks for the advice.
Damn this mod is cool. Teh game is going to consume all my sparetime, for the next months!!! My girlfriend is not so pleased with that ;)

Congratulation CivLucas!
this mod is looks awesome!
Well done!
:goodjob:

BTW: I love Civ4Col. :love:

Thank you, I appreciate it.

Dear CivLucas,
I installed the 2.16 and the game starts, I played some turns.
But I am still haunted by the former problems (not able to see many of the leaders' names).
What should I do ?

Which don't you see, but should be there?

hi

any scenarios in this mod?

Which don't you see, but should be there?

the only one I see are: Random, Chinese, Dutch and Portuguese. About the other ones, I can only see a void space, but it's possible to select them. Moreover, many leaders has no visible name.

@ bruno1968:
I don't really know what could be the trouble. Did you find stuff in the custom assets? You can always try redownloading the mod. Or reinstalling the game.
I hope this helps, running out of possibilities here.

@ashley266ph2003:
No scenario's yet, only maps of east asia/india.

This is a great mod. I haven't posted in about a year, and I don't normally, but this was a great idea and one that I really enjoyed. I played 2.16, though, as I was worried about things crashing. Keep up the excellent work! :king:

Has there been any progress on a new list of founding fathers for this mod?

This is a great mod. I haven't posted in about a year, and I don't normally, but this was a great idea and one that I really enjoyed. I played 2.16, though, as I was worried about things crashing. Keep up the excellent work! :king:

Thank you :)

Has there been any progress on a new list of founding fathers for this mod?

No replies yet :rolleyes:. I just need some names though. Like Chief Powhatan = Diponegoro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diponegoro) Or something like that. If you have any ideas, please let me know.

Bartolome de las Casas = William Carey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Carey_%28missionary%29)

And are you rebelling against the king or the trading companies? Sorry if this has already been answered but it'll help me with my research a bit.

Bartolome de las Casas = William Carey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Carey_%28missionary%29)

And are you rebelling against the king or the trading companies? Sorry if this has already been answered but it'll help me with my research a bit.

Thanks. And you do rebel against your king. Good luck :)

Edit: I found some others myself, check the first post under Founding Fathers

Edit 2: Found more than I'd thought :D But still many open spots. I started by looking for similar persons, but It's easier to search for a fitting bonus: http://www.civfanatics.com/civ4/colonization/foundingfathers . (had some help from a forum here on CFC though ;) )

dude i cant load this got lot of error msg while loading any help ?

I just wanted to let you know that I finished a game on 2.16 (Patriot, SE Asia map, British, Thomas Roe), no crashes or bugs, everything was fine (and the schools were finally great to use). The only thing missing are the UUs for the natives (and I wish China would start in East, with an asian 'Europe' screen, but this is something that not even AoD2 did). But a thoroughly great mod. Thanks again!

Cortrez= Jan van Riebeeck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_van_Riebeeck)

Juan Ponce De Leon0 Isaac Titsingh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Titsingh)

dude i cant load this got lot of error msg while loading any help ?
Can you give me some more info about the errors? Also if you haven't already install the newest update: http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=11915


Cortrez= Jan van Riebeeck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_van_Riebeeck)

Juan Ponce De Leon0 Isaac Titsingh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Titsingh)

Great work!


I just wanted to let you know that I finished a game on 2.16 (Patriot, SE Asia map, British, Thomas Roe), no crashes or bugs, everything was fine (and the schools were finally great to use). The only thing missing are the UUs for the natives (and I wish China would start in East, with an asian 'Europe' screen, but this is something that not even AoD2 did). But a thoroughly great mod. Thanks again!

There are some problems with adding units from civ4 to colonization. But i'm still planning to do so ;) And I don't think it's possible to make the europe screen civ-specific.

Having trouble loading it up, I created a mod folder and transfered teh mod to a zip file then extracted it to the newly created mods folder but it's not showing up in the load a mod option is there a certain way I have to download it properly? I use vista if that makes a difference.

The download already is a zip-file so you just have to zip it to the correct mods folder. Which is made when you install the game. I don't know where this folder is on vista though. On my pc with xp it's in My Documents\My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization IV Colonization\MODS.

I found this thread about vista on BtS. http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=328891 That will probably work too on colonization. Hope this was any help to you.

Working on the final product: merging with AoD II and the AoFDmod
So 1 new civ: Pirates. Ching Shih will move from China and Yishiha wil replace her. The pirate empire will be lead by either Ching Shih or Kanhoji Angre or Illanoon

Thor Heyerdahl http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor_Heyerdal

Thor Heyerdahl http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor_Heyerdal

Maybe a bit late, 1914 - 2002, but it'll do.
FF's for Exploration are now done :)

Hey guys... this is my first post in a Mod forum EVER!!! I love this mod! As a history buff, I'd like to know if the resources could be expanded to include spices and exotic oriental wares (Porcelin, Silk, etc)? Opium is a great idea if we could get a buff selling it to the chinese, and the Mughals at the time could provide Silks, Carpets, etc.... Just a though. Love the mod. Keep up the great work!

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned. I was playing as Denmark, and the music being played when approached by the Danish King is the Swedish national anthem.

For help, the "Modular United Mod" has the correct Danish national anthem playing.

Can anyone tell me how to install this mod. Where should I extract the rar file ? :confused:

Hey CivLucas!
Any plans of updating this mod?

Hello everyone, i'll take some time to answer the questions ^^

@ Solsurvivor85
It's quite hard to add new resources, so I'm waiting for the 1492 mod ( http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=331867 ) to be released and then I could use the extra resources in that mod.

@ Pistoldreng
I'm sorry for that :P Easy fix: rename the correct mp3 file to: SwedishKing . Then replace the old SwedishKing.mp3 in \The East Indies 2.16\Assets\Sounds\Diplomacy\ with the new file.

@ Babri
go to Program Files\ ... \Sid Meier's Civilization IV Colonization\ the double click on "_Civ4CustomMods" (it's a shortcut to the mod folder) extract to that folder.

@ AbsintheRed
I tried to merge my mod with Dale's mod some time ago, but it didn't work -_- . So now i'm kinda waiting for the before stated 1492 mod. But there's also a chance that there's not going be an update at all, university starts next year and Civ5 is coming out ^^

I really hope you will find some time to update this awesome mod...

There is a bug in V2.16 which causes the game to crash, I have saved a game just 2 turns before the crash. If you need the saved game to solve the bug I will gladly help.

@ AbsintheRed
I tried to merge my mod with Dale's mod some time ago, but it didn't work -_- . So now i'm kinda waiting for the before stated 1492 mod. But there's also a chance that there's not going be an update at all, university starts next year and Civ5 is coming out ^^

Hi CivLucas.

I tried your mod today, and i found that there is many good things inside. I understand that merging Dale's work into your own mod is too much work, but maybe you could look into some points to improve the whole thing. I would suggest :
- "balancing" some values such as education increase, number of months/turn (i would suggest downgrading to 6, considering your giant map size and the "continent" real size). Those changes should not be really hard to do (and actually, i did them already myself).
- including the economic and industrial victory conditions from AoDII, since they fit East Indies perfectly (a bit more tricky to do, could require Dale's help to size back all the lines he put everywhere or so).
- should you find the time, you should look into this founding father thing and eventually add the "lower grade buildings" thing from Dale.

Actually you've done way better than i would ever have, i only regret this little "unfinished" taste. Keep it coming! ;)

Make it to where there is also Sweden and Russia ! You can't forget Delaware (YES--Sweden) nor Alaska (OMG--RUSSIA!!)!

hi there. love this mod and lost it during a crash. when i tried to replace it tho, the download site link is not working (file does not appear to be hosted there any longer).

please re-up--

hi there. love this mod and lost it during a crash. when i tried to replace it tho, the download site link is not working (file does not appear to be hosted there any longer).

please re-up--

The latest version I have is 1.12, I could post that for download for you unless someone else has an later version.

I've downloaded the MOD but I can't get it to work. I'm playing on a Mac with a game from Steam.

Has anyone succeeded using this MOD with those specs?

It's so sad this mod is no longer developed. I would love at least to see realistic tribe and city placement on the map... The concept of East indies is VERY unappreciated, under the shadow of Americas, yet it has its own importance...