We didn't get many responses to the last GSIT, but I guess we need to keep doing these. Things are looking up for us now. We're producing Infantry and building The Hoover Dam Wonder. Our new Forbidden Palace is generating some good income and our people are pretty happy. We are still at war with the Byz and the Persians, and now the Ottomans have joined them on their attempt to put us down. We wish them luck as we continue to expand. Any suggestions as to who to attack next? The Ottomans or the Persians?

Ministers and Mayors may post their Instructions below.

And we will be using this save. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=221070&d=1247630111)

How are we planning to win and what constraints/conditions apply to our victory?

EDIT:
Asking here is easier than trying to wade through several threads looking for answer and possibly getting it wrong. :blush:

I'll look at the save during dinner and try to come up with some options. Does anyone have suggestions?

Do we keep our Favored Friend around until the end? Maybe a Domination with only us and the Dark Blue. We may have to 'annex' some of the lands that the Panzer People currently occupy, but they won't be mad for very long ('cause then the game will be over :D)!

That's just one idea.

And a good idea it is.

I'm liking the "friends to the end" concept, try to achieve Domination and not have to attack the Cairde ever. This means we need to enlist them as allies in our wars, it would also be a preventative of having them ally against us, as brothers shouldn't fight each other, they should fight shoulder to shoulder.

They broken Alliances with us before. We keep losing our Silks because of this. We can keep making Bismarck our ally till the end though, even if we do need to annex a little away from him. ;)

And yes, we have already proven twice that our "brother" is a known liar and cheat.

A known liar and cheat he may be, but he's our brother and must stay to the end!

T/C in one half hour.

T/C is on now.

Running Chat Log:

<Cyc>: About 15 minutes late, but I'm here.
<Cyc>: In East Texas this time. Connection is super slow. What a drg.
<Cyc>: T/C is begining
<Cyc>: Starting Civ3
<Cyc>: Checking Instructions.
<Cyc>: Will check specialists
<Cyc>: Put most entertainers back to work and recouped 18 extra gpt. Will check for other specialist bennies later
<Cyc>: Other than the Ottoman and Persian Armadas floating around, not real hreats.
<Cyc>: Only 5 cities in WLTP Day now.
<Cyc>: End pre-turn
<Cyc>: 1305AD/ 687g/ +87gpt
<Cyc>: The Corp in 1
<Cyc>: A few cities are bombarded by the Ottomans
<Cyc>: We learn The Corporation, start Steel
<Cyc>: Tara Infantry -- bank
<Cyc>: Moira Infantry--> Infntry
<Cyc>: Eileen Market-->Cathedral
<Cyc>: Polution appears in Molly
<Cyc>: Molly Infantry-->Infantry
<Cyc>: Varna riots
<Cyc>: Rhiannon Cav--> Cav
<Cyc>: Canterbury Temple --> Market
<Cyc>: Warwick Cathedral --> Library
<Cyc>: Liverpool Temple--> Market
<Cyc>: Lorna Infantry-->Infantry
<Cyc>: Reading Granary-->Artillery
<Cyc>: Lugdunum Temple--> Market
<Cyc>: Greece send Reg Rifle out of Dover to Gemma
<Cyc>: Send new Infantry there to back up Pike
<Cyc>: New Cav goes to Gemma and redlines killing rifle. Back in Gemma
<Cyc>: Do Workers
<Cyc>: Elite Cav in Varna kills Byz LB standing next to city. No Promo
<Cyc>: End of turn 1
<Cyc>: 1310AD/ 774g/ +16gpt
<Cyc>: Steel in 8
<Cyc>: The Ottomans have requested an audience
<Cyc>: If we give them Indusrialization, they'll let us live... I decline.
<Cyc>: They have Communism and 9 gold
<Cyc>: The Ottomans crater a tile next to Constantinople
<Cyc>: The Persians land a Guerila next to Nottingham and have at least two more units to land next turn
<Cyc>: Nottingham riots, of Course...
<Cyc>: Rhona Aqueduct-->Cathedral
<Cyc>: Septum Harbor-> Market
<Cyc>: Leeds Temple--> Market
<Cyc>: City Red Aqueduct--> Cathedral
<Cyc>: Persians move a Guerila next to Falcon's Haven
<Cyc>: A Vet Med Inf dies attacking the Persian Guerilla
<Cyc>: AC Ornge 5 redlines attacking the other Persian Guerila
<Cyc>: Elite Cav kills Nottingham Persian Guerilla
<Cyc>: Move Cannon to Falcon's haven and bombard other Persian Guerilla. Takes it to 2/4
<Cyc>: Take Vet Cav to FH and kills Guerilla
<Cyc>: Not ready to advance of Dyrrachium. Maybe next turn
<Cyc>: End turn 2
<Cyc>: 1315AD/ 792g/ +18gpt
<Cyc>: Steel in 6
<Cyc>: We are now weak to the Greeks nd the Persians.
<Cyc>: Greeks refuse our envoy
<Cyc>: Caitlyn Infantry--> Infantry
<Cyc>: Tavia Temple--> Artillery
<Cyc>: Nicomedia Aqueduct--> Cathedral
<Cyc>: Shannon Aqueduct--> Cathedral
<Cyc>: Greeks sent a reg Cav out of Dover towards undefended Kyleigh
<Cyc>: Persians land a Vet Cav, 2 Vet Immortals, and 3 Reg LB next to Nottingham
<Cyc>: The Byz will have to wait
<Cyc>: Send Cannon to Nottingham. Fails
<Cyc>: Take 2nd Cannon to Nottingham. Fails
<Cyc>: Vet Cav redlines Greek Cav and dies
<Cyc>: Move 4 Trebs to Nottingham. 3 of 4 hit. Injure Cav twice and Immortal once
<Cyc>: Move 2 more Trebs to Nott. 1 of 2 hits. Injure Imortal
<Cyc>: Wounded Vet GS goes to Nott nd kills Immortal. Promtes to Elite
<Cyc>: Send two more Trebs to Nott. Both hit, injure Immrtal and redline Cav
<Cyc>: Elite Cav kills Greek Cav
<Cyc>: Elite* Cav kills Persian Immortal
<Cyc>: Vet AC Orange 5 kills Persian LB
<Cyc>: Vet Infantry kills Persian LB
<Cyc>: Vet Infantry kills Persian LB
<Cyc>: Vet Infantry kills Persian Cav
<Cyc>: Block advance of Ottoman LB
<Cyc>: All threats eliminated
<Cyc>: Give Cairde 1gpt to change them from annoyed to Cautious
<Cyc>: Greeks stil refuse to talk
<Cyc>: End turn 3
<Cyc>: 1320AD/ 809g/ +14gpt
<Cyc>: Steel in 5
<Cyc>: Tara, London, and Constantinople riot
<Cyc>: Moira Infantry--> )nfantry
<Cyc>: Adrianople, Nottingham, and Cesarea riot
<Cyc>: Glynnis riots
<Cyc>: Molly Infantry--> Infantry
<Cyc>: Varna riots
<Cyc>: Rhiannon Cav--> Bank
<Cyc>: Aerona and Caitlyn riot
<Cyc>: Breyr riots
<Cyc>: Siobhan Factory--> Infantry
<Cyc>: More cities riot
<Cyc>: This is why I use entertainers and not specialists
<Cyc>: Raised lux to 20%, lowered Science to 50%
<Cyc>: Sent Vat AC Orange 6 to kill Ottoman LB
<Cyc>: Do Workers
<Cyc>: End turn 4
<Cyc>: 1325AD/ 823g/ +75gpt
<Cyc>: Move Science to 40%
<Cyc>: Steel in 6
<Cyc>: Glynnis Cathedral--> Bank
<Cyc>: Fionna Factory--> Cav
<Cyc>: All cities restore. 12 WLTP Days
<Cyc>: Greeks send Cav from Dover again
<Cyc>: Byz send rifle towards our SP
<Cyc>: Make that ON our SP, also a LB to Varna
<Cyc>: The Ottomans have very large Navy and have been bombarding our cities. Have caused damage around and to Constantinople
<Cyc>: Elite Cav kills Greek Cav
<Cyc>: Vet Cav kills Byz LB
<Cyc>: Vet Cav kills Byz reg Rifle
<Cyc>: Sliders - 50/40/10
<Cyc>: Changed it to 40/50/10
<Cyc>: End turn 5
<Cyc>: 1330AD/ 898g/ +47gpt
<Cyc>: Steel in 4
<Cyc>: Saving turn 5 and uploading

Caught my napping; almost a day early! :D


Domestic Recommendations:

Once we decide to fight overseas, gaining another luxury should be a priority.
Need to use our specialists.

Geez. Sorry. I thought today was T/C day.
Man. I hope nobody takes me to Court! ;)

Taking a break. Will be back later. If you see anything in the save/Chat Log you want to comment/make suggestions on, plese do so.

On second thought, I have felt really bad all day. So I'll just stop here and play a short T/C tomorrow, when I scheduled it. :crazyeye:

:lol: Oh I'm glad it's not just me that gets the days mixed up, they say it's a sign of age ;)

I should be able to make it tonight.

I really got swamped at work. I need an extention. Let me power through this ordeal and I'll get right back. Sorry.

1/2 early + 1/2 late cancels out doesn't it?

Feel like I'm getting cancelled out. Be Back.

I think those cannons need upgraded to artillery, it is pricey, but the difference in bombardment is worth it. Also, FWIW, we need more cavalry, we have plenty of infantry.

This isn't working very well, I keep getting disconnected.

Running Chat Log:

<Cyc>: Starting T/C
<Cyc>: Starting Civ3
<Cyc>: Checked Instructions
<Cyc>: Changed some Inf to Cav
<Cyc>: No immediate threats. Looks like the ttoman might land something next to Maire
<Cyc>: Cannons upgraded to Arties
<Cyc>: End pre-turn'
<Cyc>: Adrianople Temple-->Cathedral
<Cyc>: Nicaea riots
<Cyc>: A LOT of WLTP Days end.
<Cyc>: Ottoman bombard several cities without much success
<Cyc>: Ottoman land a Vat LB, Vet MI, and aReg Spear next to Gwendolyn
<Cyc>: Greeks ready to land something next to Molly
+++ Chieftess has given voice to Furiey
<Cyc>: Two mor Persian Armadas headed for the North Sea
<Furiey>: Hi Cyc
<Cyc>: Move the 2 Arties down to Gwendolyn to attack. Takes the Spear down to 1/3 and the MI down to 3/4
<Cyc>: Hi Furiey
<Cyc>: Elite* Cav to Gwendolyn Kills MI
<Furiey>: I should be asleep, but that's nothing new...
<Cyc>: Elite Cav to Gwendolyn kills Spear
<Cyc>: Elite GS to Gwendolyn kills LB
<Cyc>: Threat contained
<Cyc>: End turn 1
<Cyc>: 1335AD/ 704g/ +45gpt
<Cyc>: Steel in 2
<Cyc>: Pressing Enter
<Cyc>: Persians have requeste an audience
<Cyc>: They will give peace for Sanitation. They have Refining, but want too much for it.
<Cyc>: I will decline. What do you think, Furiey?
<Cyc>: OK, I will decline.
<Furiey>: we can deal with more war.
<Cyc>: The Greeks send out another Cav from Dover
<Cyc>: Plus land a Cav next to Molly
<Cyc>: Tara Bank--> Hospital
<Cyc>: Moira Cav--> Cav
<Cyc>: Molly Cav--> Cav
<Cyc>: Ciatlun Cav--> Cav
<Cyc>: Coventry Markeyplace--> Cathedral
<Cyc>: Nemausus Aqueduct--> Market
<Cyc>: Gwendolyn Harbor--> Market
<Cyc>: I agree
<Cyc>: Ottoman land a Reg Archer and B, and Vet LB and Spear next to Gwendolyn
<Cyc>: Vet Cav in Molly kills Vet Greek Cav. Promotes
<Cyc>: I'm going to trythis again and see if I can complete the turns this time.
<Cyc>: Ok, we are now in the year 1340AD. The Ottomans have landed a group outside of Gwendolyn
<Cyc>: Before everything died, I took care of all the threats on our land. let's do it again to end this turn
<Cyc>: 1st Arty half-lifes the Spear. 2nd Art misses the Spear.
<Cyc>: Vet Cav in Molly kills Vet Greek Cav. Promotes
<Cyc>: Vet Cav in FH redlines Guerilla, but dies doing this.
<Cyc>: Vet Cav kills Greek Vet Cav out of Dover
<Cyc>: Elite Spear Falcon02 kills redlined Guerilla. No Promo. Needs protection.
<Cyc>: Send vet Inf to cover
<Cyc>: Elite Inf goes to Gwen and kills LB. No Promo.
<Cyc>: All threats gone, except for Ottoman LB outside our territory, next to 1 of our Pikes
<Cyc>: End turn 2
<Cyc>: 1340AD/ 749g/ +218gpt
<Cyc>: Steel in 1
<Cyc>: End turn 3
<Cyc>: 1345AD/ 967g/ -1gpt
<Cyc>: Refining in 6
<Cyc>: Alert! Our Brothers, The cairde have signed a zmutual Protection Pact with the Chinese
<Cyc>: London, Adrianople, Nottingham, Cesarea riot
<Cyc>: Varna and Canterbury riot
<Cyc>: Siobhan Cav--> Cav
<Cyc>: Leeds riots
<Cyc>: Green #11 Market--> Granary
<Cyc>: Richmond and Shannon riots
<Cyc>: Sharona Library--> Market
<Cyc>: Greek land Vet Cav, Vet Inf, Red MI, and reg Rifle next to Molly
<Cyc>: Byz land Vet MI next to Gwendoln
<Cyc>: Ottoman LB a step away from our Rubber
<Cyc>: Elite Cv kills MI
<Cyc>: Vet AC Orange 6 diesagainst Greek Inf
<Cyc>: Vet Cav kills Greek Inf
<Cyc>: Elite Cav redlines against Greek Rifle
<Cyc>: 3 of 5 Trebs hit from Molly, Redlines Rifle Elite Cav kills Rifle

Things got pretty weird there. Applications closed and opened, text wouldn't post, etc.

We lost some Chat Log. But mainly we took care of any landings by foes, continued to prduce, and had some trubles with cities rioting. The save is posted.

Next turnset is when?

I have just picked up my Civ 3 discs so now need to know how long I have for the fight to get it installed and running on Vista.

I'm worried, I have seen nothing from Cyc since that last post. I hope he wasn't virused.