It is a map of the world 1700

there are 16 civ´s to play

some civs have UU some dont (new UU´s will be added after PW is on the street)

portugal
sweden
spain
netherland
holy roman empire-panzer
russia-cossack
china-rider
denmark
japan and korea-samurai
france-musketer
mughal empire-war elephant
persia-immortal
poland
ottoman empire
south east nations
england-man-o-war

and the file

look down for the file [party]

Use the file upload feature at the bottom of this page, you just upload the file to the server (max 3megs, but you can break it up in to smaller files) and then include a link to xxx.civfanatics.net/uploads/file.zip (replace xxxs with www.)

the link is case sensitive so make sure if you have capitals in the file name include them in the link.

i am trying again

now it works. I am not good with screenshots, so I would be happy if someone could download it and post one. :beer:

Originally posted by Yoda Power
now it works. I am not good with screenshots, so I would be happy if someone could download it and post one. :beer:


It is easy: when you have the pic you want hit the print screen button on you keyboard,
Open some kind of paint,( I use Paint Shop Pro 3)
Save the pic as JPG,or GIF
In the civfanatics forum there is an easy upload link at the bottom of every page,
Click on that and upload your file,
After it is uploaded check both Uploads1 and uploads2 untill you find your pic (should be same name as the pic on your desktop,
When you open a new thread there is an IMG button in the vB Code section of thepage, click on that button and enter the address of your file.
www.civfanatics.net/uploads1/your file name
uploads2/your file name

Your Map:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/NEW-3.jpg

thank you sprnv8 for posting the screenshot, isn´t there anyone who wants to say something about this scenario?

I like it.Especially since I can't get Imprezas 1850-1900 scenario.

when I play the scenario sometimes it crashes I would like to hear if it also do that to you?

Hello is there anyone out there who wants to give mee some feedback, this is the scenario ive made where I would like to have the most feedback. So come on and tell me what you think. Also you are wellcome to post screenshots of this scenario as I cant do it myself.

Know one likes mee!:sad: :sad: :cry: :cry:

There are some mistakes in Brazilian citys that should be fixed. There is no such thing as a city called Bahia. Bahia is a state. That city should be called Salvador, capital of the state. Also, the city you namd Santa Cruz should be called Porto Seguro.
Ceará is also the name of a state, the city should be called Fortaleza.

There are some serious mistakes also in Europe. The Holy Roman Empire had already collapsed and Austria was an independent and strong kingdom. Rome was inside a Papal State. The civ Holy Roman Empire shouldt be there at all.

The cities Fortaleza and Salvador was at that time known as Ceara and Bahia they changed their names after Brazil became independent in 1822. The city Santa Cruz dosn´t exist anymore, though it was just a few miles north of Porto Seguro the reson I those that name was becorse it was one of the first Portugese settlements in South America. The Holy Roman Empire ended in 1806 it was controlt by the Austrian Habsburg´s, I know they had little real power in germany but it was the best choice to represent germany, about the papel state, well they had to be representet to and also there I found the Holy Roman Empire as the best choice, though I know they was realy an independent state.

I hope that answered your questions.;)

Im not so sure about Salvador been called Bahia and Fortaleza been called Ceará. Perhaps they had those names in early colonization(Im not sure) but they already had the modern names very much time before the independence.
By the way, the scenario is pretty good.

And about Santa Cruz, the portuguese first arrived at Porto Seguro, but they thought Brazil was an island, so they named the region Ilha(Island) de Santa Cruz. When they discovered how big it really was, they changed the country name to Terra de Santa Cruz(Land of the Holy Cross). In Porto Seguro there is a cross where the portuguese celebrated the first mess in the colony.

Thanks for the information;) It will be usefull in the next version.

Anyone else has something to say?

but u need geographic help haha

Originally posted by _Impreza_
but u need geographic help haha

what do u mean with that?

right all im saying is some of the colonies are named wrong. I can tell u kinda rushed the details. jus a bit. take ur time a bit more. but i think this is one of the best scenarios i have played. very interesting. It was hard trying to get portugal to give its colonies up haha. I dunno what u can do with uprisings in south america which make the states of Brazil etc. It cant be historical the whole way through. Britain has never been to war with Portugal ever.

What i thought is if u could but a British army in south africa, India and Hong Kong? Oh yeah maybe a suez canal would work, cut the time to India. I find it helps in my games. Makes the world a bit smaller in a trade sense.

What u could do is put Prussia in, and some tribal Brazilian and Argentian and Mexican armies in south america ready to let history take it course in making no longer Portugal and Spain big powers. Well Italy i hard to do aswell. Cant u just put Italian states Unified? I know the importance of some states in the course of history but really they are not needed.

I like the Pirate ship ideas. In my last update of 1850-1900 before the new game is it ok if i use this concept even though these raids were fading away during this period?

Hmmmmmmm, i also think u should add an American army ready to take away Britains and France colonies. It would be cool if our scenarios could link together. Well i love the scenario. Great work. Try not to ruse into too many scenarios though.

Well cya then

Impreza you have alot of good ideas and some of them will be used in the next version(when i get ptw). btw sorry about the late answer. And if anyone have anything to say about this scenario they should do it i am always looking forward to improve it.

why is there so many barbs in america

Instead of all of those barbarians I think you should add the zulus in southern africa, and you could put the Native Americans (or iroquois) in the western united states. I just don't really like all those barbarians. And maybe another native tribe in Australia, it looks a little negelected down there.

Many of the barbarians will be replaced by civ´s in the ptw version.

poland is to weak you should give them koningsberg and put some english settlers in Australia

Köningsburg where not a polish city, and i will not make english settlers in au becorse that would make them settle there to early.

Holy Roman Empire-Panzer!
What the? Why not download the Crusader unit and use it as a unique unit.

The crusader in 1700? Ofcorse the panzer cannot be build untill moterized transportation is invented.

the polish called it Gdansk the Germans renamed it koningburg

i was wrong about the name change
but poland did own 1700s

meant to say poland owned it in 1700s
but didnt know how to edit it

In the year of 1700 Königsburg where german not polish so it should be that way. If you look on the top of your post´s you will see a buttom called "edit".

DONT know how i missed the edit
thanks

Originally posted by Yoda Power
The cities Fortaleza and Salvador was at that time known as Ceara and Bahia they changed their names after Brazil became independent in 1822. The city Santa Cruz dosn´t exist anymore, though it was just a few miles north of Porto Seguro the reson I those that name was becorse it was one of the first Portugese settlements in South America. The Holy Roman Empire ended in 1806 it was controlt by the Austrian Habsburg´s, I know they had little real power in germany but it was the best choice to represent germany, about the papel state, well they had to be representet to and also there I found the Holy Roman Empire as the best choice, though I know they was realy an independent state.

I hope that answered your questions.;)

The city Santa Cruz is still there (its name is Santa Cruz de Cabrália), just a few kilometers north from Porto Seguro. I guess the cities of Salvador and Bahia were always known as such, and Bahia and Ceará were always the states.

Originally posted by luiz
And about Santa Cruz, the portuguese first arrived at Porto Seguro, but they thought Brazil was an island, so they named the region Ilha(Island) de Santa Cruz. When they discovered how big it really was, they changed the country name to Terra de Santa Cruz(Land of the Holy Cross). In Porto Seguro there is a cross where the portuguese celebrated the first mess in the colony.

That cross you're talking about is in Santa Cruz de Cabrália, not in Porto Seguro.

when is it come on ptw

Originally posted by qer
when is it come on ptw

in a future far far away, im working on many projects currently, this is not one of them.

Qer would you stop asking that you must of done it 5 times on different scenarios

Originally posted by _Impreza_
right all im saying is some of the colonies are named wrong. I can tell u kinda rushed the details. jus a bit. take ur time a bit more. but i think this is one of the best scenarios i have played. very interesting. It was hard trying to get portugal to give its colonies up haha. I dunno what u can do with uprisings in south america which make the states of Brazil etc. It cant be historical the whole way through. Britain has never been to war with Portugal ever.

What i thought is if u could but a British army in south africa, India and Hong Kong? Oh yeah maybe a suez canal would work, cut the time to India. I find it helps in my games. Makes the world a bit smaller in a trade sense.

What u could do is put Prussia in, and some tribal Brazilian and Argentian and Mexican armies in south america ready to let history take it course in making no longer Portugal and Spain big powers. Well Italy i hard to do aswell. Cant u just put Italian states Unified? I know the importance of some states in the course of history but really they are not needed.

I like the Pirate ship ideas. In my last update of 1850-1900 before the new game is it ok if i use this concept even though these raids were fading away during this period?

Hmmmmmmm, i also think u should add an American army ready to take away Britains and France colonies. It would be cool if our scenarios could link together. Well i love the scenario. Great work. Try not to ruse into too many scenarios though.

Well cya then

Britain didn't have South Africa till 1815. The dutch had it in this time period.

Britain didn't have Hong Kong till 1841.

Britain only had a few settlements in India in 1700, the French had a few as well, and the Portuguese had a few.

The Suez Canal didn't exist till 1869.

Prussia in would be a good idea, as it became a kingdom in 1701 (though it was independent before this, this is when it assumed importance).

Pirating was pretty much gone by 1815, thanks to the USA and others taking them out.

Americans weren't ready to revolt in 1700 (this didn't really start to occur till about 1750).

Real good job Yoda Power, I'll have to give this scenario a try sometime.

Originally posted by Procifica
Real good job Yoda Power, I'll have to give this scenario a try sometime.

thanks, but i suggest you play it only if your computer is fast.:)

Originally posted by emu
the polish called it Gdansk the Germans renamed it koningburg

i know its kind of long time since the discussion but poland has never owned köningsberg, it has always been a preussian city in what is called east preussia until russia took it and renamed it kalliningrad, gdansk on the other hand has been polish and german under the name danzig.

Poland tried to invade the territory of the Germanic- slavic tribe of the Prussians, but they were not able to cope with them. So Duke Conrad of Masowien asked the German Order for help. Therefore they should get the reign over Prussia. They accepted and pacified and christianized the Prussians. This was about 1200. After ruling over 250 years relative peacefully, where many settlers came from Germany and many settlements were founded or enlarged, Marienburg, Danzig, Königsberg, Thorn for example, while Danzig and Königsberg became members of the Hanse and Danzig had the law of Lübeck, Poland and Lithunia became united. This was against the German order. They had to fight for their land, but lost the decisive battle of Tanneberg in 1454. Prussia became a Polish vassal and was divided. While East Prussia became the duchess of Prussia, later belonging to Brandenburg, West Prussia was anected by Poland. They tried to polonize this territory but at least in the towns like Danzig they were unsuccessfull. In the last decades of the 17th century after the 30 years war the Grand Elector could get independence from Poland. But only East Prussia was under the ruling of Brandenburg. In 1701 Prussia beacme a kingdom, But Frederic I. became only king IN Prussia. West Prussia became not part of Prussia until the the first Polish Division. Finally Prussia was reunited. Until 1919 when Poland got most parts of west Prussia and of course 1945, when Germany lost all of the areas east of the Oder- Neiße line. So originally East Prussia was never part of Poland ,while west Prussia was ruled by Poland, but inhabitated by (mostly) German.

Adler

Can you play this scenario with PTW?

Originally posted by roalan
Can you play this scenario with PTW? I guess so, but I have never tried it.

Adler17: The original Prussians actually were a Baltic people, not "Germanic- slavic".

And please divide pieces of that length into a few paragraphs. Makes it much easier to read.

Okay, you´re right. The Pruzzen were balts. They were indeed the original inhabitants of the Balticum, before the other balts appeared 500 BC.

Adler

Good job with India/Mughal Empire. As India I quickly subdued most of Persia and hope to vanquish it completely. Hopefully I don't suffer the same fate real India did in the 18th century, with respect to those pesky European colonists! :)

Wow, people are still playing this scenario.

Well I'm a new-comer to the world of scenarios (though I've been playing Civ for years, on and off). I've been passing through scenarios posted in the (not recently updated) Index file, which lists them geographically/chronologically rather than when they were posted.

I'm still thoroughly enjoying this one. Others have found a few historical errors in your scenario here and there, but overall the way you set the game up has turned it into an interesting and realistic "what if" situation.

What if, for example, the pre-British Mughal Empire had stayed united rather than in-fighting, as the British became more aggressive in their colonialist policies? First, the British quickly lost their 2 settlements in India through culture flips. Then, Mughal armies of war elephants erased the Persian presence from modern Iran, Afghanistan and the former Soviet republics region. But China with its massive military and strong resources poses a constant threat from the east (as you may know, China went to war with India in 1967 over possession of Tibet) that frankly I don't know how I'm going to manage!

Fun stuff.

well im glad you like it:)

Are you thinking in a conquest version?

This is really petty, but I'm just curious as to why Madrid and London have universities...but Glasgow and Bologna don't.

@Metacomet-No, this scenario was "closed down" a long time ago.

@Calgacus-What can I say, I wouldn't such a mistake today, but then this was more than a year ago:p

Bummer, man i realy did like this one to bad it has been "Closed Down" it was so well thought out & a conquest version would have been cool. More time for other projects i guess. :(

I have a problem
When i load the conquest editor, i see the scenario.
But when i load the conquest/ civcontent/1650.bic, and i choose a civilzation, and configure everything, i load the scenario but the PC doesn´t load the scenario.

Just taking a brief look at the scenario, it looks like it was orginally made for Vanilla Civ3. That may be part of the problem. Are you getting some kind of error? Posting this would be very helpful.

Try importing this into the C3C editor, and saving it as a C3C file. Then try loading it with C3C. Dont' have it in front of me so I don't know if it will work that way.

Just taking a brief look at the scenario, it looks like it was orginally made for Vanilla Civ3. That may be part of the problem. Are you getting some kind of error? Posting this would be very helpful.

Try importing this into the C3C editor, and saving it as a C3C file. Then try loading it with C3C. Dont' have it in front of me so I don't know if it will work that way.

"What is Vanilla Civ3" I download this file from this page. The extension of C3C is *.biq, isn´t it?.

Vanilla Civ3 is the original version of civ, no PTW or C3C. Yes this scenario was made for Vanilla Civ3, and it really sucks you shouldn't play it.