View Full Version : Installing Dune Wars and Installation Issues


Deliverator
Jul 23, 2009, 08:43 AM
Before installing the mod make sure you have Civilization 4 Beyond the Sword and the official patch 3.19 installed.

Installing the Mod

Download Latest Version from Welcome Thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=338329)

The download contains an executable which should install the mod for you.


Incremental Patches

The main installs of Dune Wars are step releases, such as 1.2, 1.3, etc. However, due to the rapid development of the mod there are numerous incremental patches 1.2.1, 1.2.2, etc released by those working on the mod. Current patches, when available, will be linked in the Welcome Thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=338329)


Optional Add-On

Music Pack (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=332729)


Known Issues - Dune Wars 1.6.3

1. If you are running the mod in Vista and are experiencing problems, try right clicking and selecting Run as Administrator. Multiple Vista users have said the mod only works this way.

AstralDream
Jul 25, 2009, 07:05 AM
I have the ocean animation over deep desert.
It should be like this or it is a bug?

Deliverator
Jul 25, 2009, 07:10 AM
The ocean animation has only been removed in the latest patch 1.3.8.

AstralDream
Jul 25, 2009, 07:15 AM
can you give me the link to the latest patch?
I'm interested in helping you with the mod but for now i can only tell you some things from the dune book...

Deliverator
Jul 25, 2009, 07:17 AM
Here's a link. You need to overwrite your current dune wars folder with the one in the zip.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8297559&postcount=125

I'd not use the Arrakis mapscript for now as we have some issues with it.

Any input you can provide will be welcome. :)

keldath
Jul 25, 2009, 07:22 AM
hi , the link is here and welcome to dune wars:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8297559&postcount=125


* deliverator beat me to it huh...posting at the same time..

rocklikeafool
Sep 11, 2009, 02:01 AM
This is a really odd problem. Ok, I zipped the Version 1.4 file right into ...BeyondtheSword\Mods. Then I used the Version 1.4.8 installer. At the end of that install, I checked "Run Dune Reduced". K, so that worked. It loaded the mod fine from there.
Then I tried later to load Dune Reduced from the "Advanced->Load A Mod" option in regular BTS 3.19. While it was loading, I had an error pop up and it CTDed.

So ya know, I currently have the new Windows7, which is basically a Vista which doesn't have all the drivers. (For example, I can't use my HP printer on this PC yet. Have to use my other PC.) I don't know if that'd be an issue, but I figure it could be.

Gelvan
Sep 11, 2009, 02:29 AM
Not sure about windows 7 but in windows vista 64 some games have to be in the folder "program files(x86)" (instead of "program files") to work. Civ4 isn't one of these though, it works fine in a generic "games" folder.. could be that this was changed for win7?

I seldom use the "load mod" under "advanced" in regular bts, instead I've made the short cut at the desktop for every mod. this works great and is even faster. I don't change the Civ4Config.ini though.

you may copy another civ4 shortcut and change the line under "target" (with a right click you may choose properties of the shortcut) to
c:\programs(or wherever it is)...Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Civ4BeyondSword.exe" mod=\dune reduced

I've got no idea if this helps you, but feel free to try :)

rocklikeafool
Sep 11, 2009, 02:31 AM
Not sure about windows 7 but in windows vista 64 some games have to be in the folder "program files(x86)" (instead of "program files") to work. Civ4 isn't one of these though, it works fine in a generic "games" folder.. could be that this was changed for win7?

I seldom use the "load mod" under "advanced" in regular bts, instead I've made the short cut at the desktop for every mod. this works great and is even faster. I don't change the Civ4Config.ini though.

you may copy another civ4 shortcut and change the line under "target" (with a right click you may choose properties of the shortcut) to
c:\programs(or wherever it is)...Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Civ4BeyondSword.exe" mod=\dune reduced

I've got no idea if this helps you, but feel free to try :)

In Windows7, there is only 1 Program Files. Anyway, I will try your method. Thanks.

Edit: Damn, that didn't work.

Gelvan
Sep 11, 2009, 03:05 AM
I suppose you have already tried open the short cut in a compatibility mode, so it seems to be something with the way win7 uses civ4.

maybe you should try also what Deliverator said:
1. Go to the C:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\_Civ4Config shortcut, and, in the file, change the "Mod = 0" line to "Mod = Mods\dune reduced".

on the other hand, it should work even withot a shortcut from the load a mod menu. it does not therefore it has to be a problem with win7.

regarding to this thread http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=328103 it seems to be a problem with some files that are saved at 'my documents' or with the registry - after a complee delete and reinstall of BtS, it worked according to him flawless on win7. he doesn't talk about mod's though.

rocklikeafool
Sep 11, 2009, 04:27 AM
Well, that's all good and nice. But I'm not deleting and reinstalling. I have modding files attached to this PC's CivIV. I'll just install it on my Vista.

Fenring
Sep 18, 2009, 07:49 AM
I dunno if it's the right thread to ask:

I have an error trying to download the mod v. 1.5. A 404 error occurs regardless of the browser I try. Is it possible to provide another mirror?

davidlallen
Sep 18, 2009, 10:02 AM
Are you able to see the main web server containing the file, http://jendaveallen.com ? This contains my family's public web pages. If you are not able to see this server directly, please contact your ISP. I have checked it is online today.

Deliverator
Sep 18, 2009, 10:29 AM
I have no problem either. I've mirrored it at Mediafire - I'll only do this temporarily as we want to keep track of download numbers.

Mirror link:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?dzzjmjzynwj

Fenring
Sep 18, 2009, 08:58 PM
There must be something with my ISP apparently. However, I am now downloading from the alternative mirror Deliverator have pointed me to. Thanks!

Platoche
Sep 19, 2009, 02:12 AM
The mod doesn't work on my pc.
The Main screen, and all menus, don't display a word, I've just got the worm picture.

I've got BTS and patch 3.19 installed.
Maybe is it a vista issue ?
Do other vista users already have had such problem ?

Lord Tirian
Sep 19, 2009, 04:08 AM
The mod doesn't work on my pc.
The Main screen, and all menus, don't display a word, I've just got the worm pictureI bet you're using another language than English. Set your language to English and the mod should work.

Cheers, LT.

Fenring
Sep 22, 2009, 12:02 PM
It did not work for me either until I started to run it as administrator on my pc with vista.

Caerid
Oct 05, 2009, 04:47 PM
Hopfully someone can help me out here. Huge civ and dune fan, so this mod looks like it would be right up my alley. When loading the mod, or direct shortcut to mod, it gets to "init MXL (uncached)" then windows closes it. Any suggestions/ideas on whats going on?

Ahriman
Oct 05, 2009, 05:01 PM
Do you have BTS updated to patch 3.19?
I think this is often caused by having the wrong BTS patch.

Caerid
Oct 06, 2009, 10:44 PM
Yeah, I did. Just reinstalled and everything worked fine.

squadbroken
Oct 09, 2009, 11:18 AM
Getting a "406 Not Acceptable" error when trying to download the mod

davidlallen
Oct 09, 2009, 12:11 PM
Thanks for the feedback! I have tested the download and it is working for me. We have a thousand successful downloads. Are you able to download other mods?

squadbroken
Oct 09, 2009, 09:18 PM
Yep. This and Fury Road are the only ones I've tried that I can't download.

edit: Exact error message:
Not Acceptable

An appropriate representation of the requested resource /fury-road/dune-wars-1-5.exe could not be found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

davidlallen
Oct 09, 2009, 09:23 PM
Both Fury Road and Dune Wars are stored on the server jendaveallen.com, which is my family's public website. Are you able to visit jendaveallen.com? If not, please contact your ISP. There is no reason I can see why you should be unable to access it. For the next patch 1.5.5, I will try putting it on some other server such as mediafire.

squadbroken
Oct 09, 2009, 09:35 PM
Site gives the same error.

I have to admit, it's pretty odd... been using the Internet for a long time and that's the first time I have ever seen a 406.

davidlallen
Oct 09, 2009, 09:57 PM
Are you able to download the files from this temporary mirror?

Dune Wars 1.5 main release (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yihyzqni0nz) (57 MB)
Dune Wars 1.5.4 patch (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yolrjmzyyyo) (17 MB)

squadbroken
Oct 09, 2009, 11:24 PM
Yep. Thank you for posting them.

davidlallen
Oct 10, 2009, 01:06 AM
I have switched the civfanatics download page for 1.5 and 1.5.4 from my personal server, jendaveallen.com, to a commercial download host, mediafire.com. I hope this will reduce the number of failed download requests.

Deliverator
Oct 10, 2009, 10:50 AM
I have switched the civfanatics download page for 1.5 and 1.5.4 from my personal server, jendaveallen.com, to a commercial download host, mediafire.com. I hope this will reduce the number of failed download requests.

An even better solution might be to link to the uploaded files on Moddb. That's how the main FFH2 download (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=1) is currently setup. That way you get download figures on both civfanatics and moddb.

The only hassle is waiting for approval when you upload the files to moddb - but you can always link to somewhere else temporarily so as not to delay the release of a patch.

Deon
Oct 12, 2009, 04:03 PM
Music pack breaks some XML in 1.5.5.

Deliverator
Oct 12, 2009, 05:13 PM
There is now a patch for the Music Pack that sorts out 1.5.5 compatibility. Download here (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yrzxftlozym). The main Music Pack download is now updated to a new 1.5.5 version. If you have the existing Music Pack installed you only need the Patch.

Psychic_Llamas
Oct 14, 2009, 02:28 AM
This mod looks really fun :) im downloading it now!

Psychic_Llamas
Oct 14, 2009, 11:28 AM
I just played a good 6 and a half hours and won a terraforming victory as the Fremen :D it was fantastically fun, no bug or anything! there was also barely any turn lag and the ai was definately challenging. i love the different diplomacy modifiers a lot, and the change of food to water is also a great idea :)

oh and i cant finish without a massive kudos to the Art. the bredth and depth of art i nthe mod just makes me go WOW, especially what youve done with the different elevations and such.

im going to have to read the books now!

davidlallen
Oct 14, 2009, 11:38 AM
Thanks! Tell all your friends!

Deliverator
Oct 14, 2009, 12:09 PM
im going to have to read the books now!

If the mod makes people want to read the book, then that is a great result in my opinion. Thanks for the positive feedback! :)

Ahriman
Oct 14, 2009, 01:38 PM
Great! Now get back to making warhammer work *cracks whip*. :-)
Seriously, glad you liked it PL. Though having never read Dune is something of a crime against humanity.

Deon
Oct 14, 2009, 07:15 PM
Though having never read Dune is something of a crime against humanity.
I am a smooth criminal :D.

Psychic_Llamas
Oct 14, 2009, 07:28 PM
Great! Now get back to making warhammer work *cracks whip*. :-)

shhh! you never saw me here ;)

Seriously, glad you liked it PL. Though having never read Dune is something of a crime against humanity.

oh ive known about Dune for ages, i played the game as a youngun when computers first became cool and have one of the newer Dune games. just never got around to reading the books :)

Ahriman
Oct 14, 2009, 07:33 PM
You don't need to have read any of the sequels, they aren't nearly as good, but Dune itself is a masterpiece.

Diamondeye
Oct 18, 2009, 10:57 AM
One of my friends lent me the Dune novel. I am reading it now. I am so going to play this mod once I've read the book. Just letting you people know it looks absolutely amazing.

Ahriman
Oct 18, 2009, 11:29 AM
Welcome! We may not be quite as awesome as Frank Herbert, but you'll enjoy this mod much more once you've read Dune.

keldath
Oct 20, 2009, 05:53 PM
how nice that people get to read the books cause of this mod.

heck, i , when getting the very first version out, bought the entire dune series 1-6, read the first.

Psychic_Llamas
Oct 21, 2009, 01:58 AM
i think the DL link for 1.6 is broken because when i go to run it it says:

"installer integrity check has failed. Common causes include incompete Download and damaged media."

im downloading it again, incase it was a one off thing.

EDIT: the second download also failed. i think your upload was corrupted or something. perhaps try reuploading it or trying a different website?

Deliverator
Oct 21, 2009, 04:14 AM
EDIT: the second download also failed. i think your upload was corrupted or something. perhaps try reuploading it or trying a different website?

I can confirm this. David will be soundly asleep right now I assume, so he wont be able to fix this until morning California time which is approx 6 hours from now.

I advise people reading this to play 1.5 with the 1.5.5 patch until an uncorrupted version of 1.6 is posted.

davidlallen
Oct 21, 2009, 10:46 AM
The download site we were using, "mediafire" appears to have some problem. I was able to download from it an hour ago and confirmed that the upload was corrupted. I deleted the copy on mediafire. I tried to upload a new copy, but mediafire was unable to complete the upload and now I can't even access mediafire.com at all.

I have gone to another download site which is my own web server. In the past some people have been unable to access this. However, I have uploaded, and then downloaded, and then installed successfully. (The web server is still located halfway across the US from me, it is not in my house or anything.)

I have updated the download page at civfanatics so it will use jendaveallen. Please download from that. I will try to get mediafire to respond, or try some other mirror site in parallel. Sorry for the confusion.

phungus420
Oct 23, 2009, 02:09 AM
The install script you guys are using is a dated one. I've recompiled a new script that fixes the issues in your current installer, the updated script is in the source code add on:

http://www.filefront.com/14776415/Dune-Wars-v1.6-Setup.exe/

davidlallen
Oct 25, 2009, 08:15 PM
The install script you guys are using is a dated one. I've recompiled a new script that fixes the issues in your current installer,

I traced through your installer thread, and I am pretty sure I used the latest version. Still, thanks for your help. Can you please upload just the nsi script? I wll diff it with the one I used to see the difference.

phungus420
Oct 25, 2009, 10:06 PM
OK, script uploaded in attachement.

Also I know it's an older version of the script because it breaks the icon shortcut and the start menu shortcut is added differently. Also because it's an old script, it most likely doesn't check all the different registry possibilities, as the old one wasn't set up to look for CivGold or Complete's registry key.

A few notes on the script. Obviously my computer paths are different then yours, so you need to change those, that's common sense though. I moved the icon into it's own folder "Icon", so either place the icon in a new folder icon, or adjust that in the script. Finally I created an add on option for the source code, if you'd rather just install the source code by default, you need to elminate all the optional add on sections in the script, the script is well commented though, that's easy to do.

Jenaelha
Oct 26, 2009, 10:31 PM
You don't need to have read any of the sequels, they aren't nearly as good, but Dune itself is a masterpiece.

Each of the sequels are masterpieces as well.

For some reason, I have a CTD upon launching the mod. Using 1.6.1 during the Init XML the game crashes.

davidlallen
Oct 26, 2009, 11:22 PM
Each of the sequels are masterpieces as well.

For some reason, I have a CTD upon launching the mod. Using 1.6.1 during the Init XML the game crashes.

Is your BTS installation upgraded to 3.19?
Are you able to play other mods you have downloaded from civfanatics?

Jenaelha
Oct 27, 2009, 07:51 PM
Yes, BTS 3.19 and I play other mods fine.
I unistalled Dune Wars (thanks for the Unistall) and reinstalled. I chose to "Run Dune Wars" from the install complete prompt and it worked fine. Very cool and can't wait to play, BTW. However, I exited to desktop and launched from the desktop shortcut and the program crashes again during the XML Init. I then launched BTS and tried to launch the Mod from there with the same crash.
Now I can't figure out how to launch the game without re-installing :)

davidlallen
Oct 27, 2009, 08:07 PM
Now I can't figure out how to launch the game without re-installing :)

Are you using Vista? As listed in the first post in this thread, many users report they can only play the mod using "run as administrator".

Your location implies you are in the US, so this is less likely, but are you running the mod in English? We have fixed several problems with foreign languages previously and we believe it works; but if you aren't using English, try using English.

Jenaelha
Oct 27, 2009, 08:19 PM
Are you using Vista? As listed in the first post in this thread, many users report they can only play the mod using "run as administrator".


Yes, with Vista and English I set the "run as administrator" and it works.

Thanks so much,

arkham4269
Nov 01, 2009, 02:00 PM
Have a weird issue. After patching to fix the missile tank problem, the infantry ended up 'broken' - when clicking on them, they have weird options, almost like workers, can't attack and when selected, you can't unselect them unless you tell them to sleep.

Plus it seems like the amount of worms has dropped off considerable to practically nothing.

Ahriman
Nov 01, 2009, 02:19 PM
It sounds like you might be using one of the older patches.

1.6.1c or thereabouts tweaked infantry but broke them.

If there are no new worms appearing or storms or units within your borders are not getting the +1 movement home ground promotion, then something is stopping the python scripts from running.

Deliverator
Nov 01, 2009, 02:45 PM
Have a weird issue. After patching to fix the missile tank problem, the infantry ended up 'broken' - when clicking on them, they have weird options, almost like workers, can't attack and when selected, you can't unselect them unless you tell them to sleep.

Plus it seems like the amount of worms has dropped off considerable to practically nothing.

Remove Dune Wars, install the main version 1.6.1 and then the latest patch 1.6.3 - links in the welcome thread - that should sort out your issues. 1.6.3 includes all other 1.6.x patches.

rockinroger
Nov 06, 2009, 12:00 PM
I guess i am puzzled i just ran 1.63 for 125 turns on vista 32 bit, no problems.

Ahriman
Nov 06, 2009, 12:02 PM
I am on Vista-64 and have never had any problems, presumably because my account has administrator priviliges.

davidlallen
Nov 06, 2009, 12:03 PM
I guess i am puzzled i just ran 1.63 for 125 turns on vista 32 bit, no problems.

If it starts up at all, then you are not having the problem other users have reported. Other users report that it crashes during the "init xml" early loading stage.

Do you have your civ game installed under "program files"? As a user, do you have permission to write into "program files"? Normal vista installations do not allow a regular user to write into "program files", only an administrator. If you have given your regular user account administrator priviledges, then please create another user account which does not have adminstrator priviledges, and then run using that account.

rockinroger
Nov 06, 2009, 12:39 PM
I have my civ4 under program files for both. I also have the user permission disabled. Never did like that annoyance. I am having a similar issue with one of our beta testers. He has civ4 installed to my documents. As far as I can remember civ4 has always needed to go under program files. Since I started modding with Keldath 3 years ago with ViSa. Why do people have it in other places? That is one of the reasons Vince started making a installer that put it there, we had quite a few issues with people trying to put it under my documents.

Do you have a reliable tester that has it under my documents "Civ4", Ask him/her to move civ to my programs and see if that fixes the issue. I looked at the Dune theme and its path is fine.

Dune:
resource_path "Mods\Dune Wars\Assets\modules\Interface\Dune Theme\Resource";

include "Mods\Dune Wars\Assets\modules\Interface\Dune Theme\Resource\Themes\Civ4\Civ4Theme.thm";

Woc:
resource_path "Mods\World of Civilization 3.19\Assets\modules\Interface\UI Dark Blue\Resource";

include "Mods\World of Civilization 3.19\Assets\modules\Interface\UI Dark Blue\Resource\Themes\Civ4\Civ4Theme.thm";

So that looks ok to me, I think the next thing to try is to get someone who has it under My Documents to move it to My programs.

Do you have a debug dll? That might help me to look for things better. I have installed 1.63? the Patch and the music addon. Seems ok so far.

Ahriman
Nov 06, 2009, 12:42 PM
Civ normally installs to *both* program files AND My documents.

The Program files has the core game files, and then the my documents has user-settings, save-games, ini's, etc.

rockinroger
Nov 06, 2009, 12:44 PM
I thought of another thing I have seen occasionally to check. Sometimes people have put their mods like this C:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Dune Wars\Dune Wars. All that does is load regular BTS even though it will say Dune Wars. Other thing i have seen that causes a crash b4 the game starts is a bad audio file, or bad art. Art seems fine that I have seen so far. Thats why I would like to see a debug dll to check the audio xml out. Audio can be a real pain in the arse sometimes and will cause a crash b4 loading.

rockinroger
Nov 06, 2009, 12:47 PM
Civ normally installs to *both* program files AND My documents.

The Program files has the core game files, and then the my documents has user-settings, save-games, ini's, etc.

That is correct, and how it should be. Lately though as in the case of our beta tester all of civ4 has been going under my documents. In his case he had 3 users on 1 computer. So he did not install it to my programs, but instead to his my documents. So the other users couldnt play it. That is what screwed him up.

davidlallen
Nov 06, 2009, 12:52 PM
No XP user has ever reported this type of crash during "Init XML" so I do not see how any graphic or audio file problem could be causing it. On page 3 of the current thread you can see user "Jenaelha" reported failure until using "run as administrator". At this post (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8611121&postcount=241) and previous you can see another user with the same problem, who tried some of the BUG workarounds without success.

I can even reproduce the problem myself using XP. Use windows explorer to make the entire Dune Wars mod directory read-only. Then start the game. It crashes during "init xml". By comparing two runs, I can identify that a successful run writes the theme file, and a crashing run fails to write the theme file. So if you and keldath can change DW so it no longer writes the theme file, I believe the problem will be fixed.

Stochastic
Nov 26, 2009, 09:44 PM
Not sure if this is the right place, but I just installed the 1.6.5 patch and got an error message after starting the game (after hints and everything but before the "dawn of man message":

Revolution.ini is missing from C:\Game_files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\BUG Mod
Or C:\Docs and Settings\Adrian\My Documents\My Games\Beyond the Sword\Mods\BUG Mod

The game started but I am missing the HUD (as if I had pressed Alt-I in BtS 3.19) when I start.

Since last playing I installed BUG4.2 as a custom asset, so I thought I should take that out and try again. When I uninstalled that I had no change.

So I thought I should try reinstalling Dune Wars. I have now uninstalled Dune Wars, but when I tried to reinstall the Dune Wars 1.6.1 from the download I get this message:
"Error in opening file for writing: C:\Game_Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Dune Wars\AbandonCityDemolishBuilding.ini"

So I've aborted that and am unable to reinstall Dune Wars.
What evil have I done in my hamfisted way?

Thanks for the help!

davidlallen
Nov 26, 2009, 11:14 PM
Are you using Vista? For Vista users, you must right-click on the executable and select "run as administrator". This is probably why you are getting a message which says you are not allowed to write into the directory under c:\program files. You can see some more information in this post (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8629954&postcount=8).

Stochastic
Nov 27, 2009, 12:41 AM
No, I'm in XP pro as an admin, so that shouldn't be a problem

Deliverator
Nov 27, 2009, 04:27 AM
No, I'm in XP pro as an admin, so that shouldn't be a problem

I would try deleting any Dune Wars folders from your Beyond the Sword/Mods directory, before installing again.

Also, it is worth clearing your Custom Assets folder of any BUG files as these can conflict with Dune Wars.

Stochastic
Nov 27, 2009, 09:34 PM
Thanks, that's fixed it!

Acoma1972
Dec 03, 2009, 12:39 AM
If it starts up at all, then you are not having the problem other users have reported. Other users report that it crashes during the "init xml" early loading stage.

Do you have your civ game installed under "program files"? As a user, do you have permission to write into "program files"? Normal vista installations do not allow a regular user to write into "program files", only an administrator. If you have given your regular user account administrator priviledges, then please create another user account which does not have adminstrator priviledges, and then run using that account.

You will get the XML error if you try to play the mod with only the 1.6,5 patch, the directions to install the mod could be misread. So if you still get the XML error try downloading the 1.6.1 mod files, and then patching it with 1.6.5.

superuke
Dec 06, 2009, 11:03 PM
I cannot get this to work with vista. i got as far as the game opening but no menu with it so I reinstalled and now the game stops working. any ideas i have tried everything except removing and reinstalling everything from civ 4 on up

davidlallen
Dec 06, 2009, 11:50 PM
I cannot get this to work with vista. i got as far as the game opening but no menu with it so I reinstalled and now the game stops working. any ideas i have tried everything except removing and reinstalling everything from civ 4 on up

Are you able to run other mods you have downloaded, such as Fall From Heaven?

Please right-click on the Dune Wars icon and select "run as administrator".

superuke
Dec 07, 2009, 07:16 AM
Yes i play civ gold all the time it works fine. I tried the right click run as admin and still shuts game down when i had it partially working the characters would move but i had no menu. The bit that i did see just wet my appitite i have been a dune fan for over 20 years arggg.....

davidlallen
Dec 07, 2009, 09:28 AM
Yes i play civ gold all the time it works fine. I tried the right click run as admin and still shuts game down when i had it partially working the characters would move but i had no menu. The bit that i did see just wet my appitite i have been a dune fan for over 20 years arggg.....

I am sure we will be able to help you get the game to run.

Have you been able to run other mods which you have downloaded from civfanatics, such as Fall From Heaven? Please confirm that you installed both the main 1.6.1 release, as well as the "patch" 1.6.5 release. Some people have tried to install only the 1.6.5 "patch" without the main release, and this does not work.

I am not sure what you mean with "the characters would move but you had no menu". Does it mean you were able to start a game and move your units on the map? Did any dialog boxes appear with error messages?

Ahriman
Dec 07, 2009, 09:33 AM
IIRC, Civ Gold is just the bundled version of Civ that has both the original Civ4 game and the Warlords expansion (which is what I have). Unless there is a mod by this name too?

Do you also have the Beyond the Sword expansion installed, patched up to the 3.19 version? This needs to be installed before you try installing the Dunewars mod.

superuke
Dec 07, 2009, 01:26 PM
I think my problem is i installed the patch first but i did have it partailly working no dialog boxes tho i was able to start a game but after i uninstalled dune wars and reinstalled it it just shuts down when i try to load it. I am dl ffh II right now i will try to install it and see if it works. if not then maybe i will follow whpsh's advice:

"My problem was that I updated drivers after the initial install.

I uninstalled the game, deleted everything out of the directories (some stuff was saved) and searched through the registry to remove all civilization references.

I reinstalled CIV4, patched it. Installed BTS. Patched it.

Everything runs well now."

I hope it works Will repost when ffhII is finished dling


and civ gold is also a mod on here. a real good one

superuke
Dec 07, 2009, 01:53 PM
July 24, 2009

CIV Gold is a civilizations mod for Civ4 that combines serveral of the most popular user-created civilizations, while applying standards for graphics and content across the board. It can be used as a standalone mod to give users more options in their games, or it can be used by mod-makers to add a “plug-and-play” civ component to their projects.

With CIV Gold we are attempting to create the “definitive” civ add-on for users and mod-makers, alike. This pack is meant to be focused, complete, and comprehensive.

Version 4.0 contained 90 new civilizations and 24 new leaders for existing Firaxis civs. In version 5.0, that number has increased to 120 civilizations and 58 leaders, in addition to several new leaders for 4.0 civs.

NOTE: This is a very big mod. Loading time may be up to 15-20 minutes.

davidlallen
Dec 07, 2009, 02:00 PM
I think my problem is i installed the patch first but i did have it partailly working no dialog boxes

That will definitely cause a problem. I do not think you need to reinstall Civ IV itself or worry about the registry. I recommend you delete the whole directory where Dune Wars was installed, probably like Beyond The Sword\Mods\Dune Wars. Then install the main release, 1.6.1. Do not install the patch yet. Just verify that the 1.6.1 version works. After that, then you can install the patch to upgrade to 1.6.5.

superuke
Dec 07, 2009, 02:33 PM
nope just deleting the \Dune Wars folder did not work

davidlallen
Dec 07, 2009, 02:37 PM
Please describe again exactly what you see after you delete the Dune Wars directory, install the 1.6.1 release only, and try to start a game.

superuke
Dec 07, 2009, 02:40 PM
did you mean i should uninstall bts as well?

superuke
Dec 07, 2009, 02:43 PM
i uninstall from the 1.6.1 file i go in to make sure the folder was deleated i then reinstall and start the game load a mode game stops working i get stop working notice i right clik run as admin bts loads then game stops working notice and windows will notifify if soulution... as if

superuke
Dec 07, 2009, 02:45 PM
i don't want to uninstall bts and civ 4 if i do not have to

superuke
Dec 07, 2009, 02:46 PM
ffh almost done i am doing to install it and try

davidlallen
Dec 07, 2009, 02:51 PM
i uninstall from the 1.6.1 file i go in to make sure the folder was deleated i then reinstall and start the game load a mode game stops working i get stop working notice i right clik run as admin bts loads then game stops working notice and windows will notifify if soulution... as if

You should not need to reinstall BTS or Civ 4. I am not sure I understand your description. I think "i right clik run as admin bts loads then game stops working notice and windows will notifify if soulution" means even when you run as administrator, the game has crashed to the desktop. What exactly is showing on the screen just before it crashes? For example, do you see the loading window and the message:

[Dune Wars]Init XML

Or is it getting further than that?

superuke
Dec 07, 2009, 02:53 PM
ffh won't load either i updated th 3.19 patch or thot i did is there any way to verify?

superuke
Dec 07, 2009, 02:55 PM
i get the bts loading window then the game has stoped working message

superuke
Dec 07, 2009, 02:56 PM
i do not get the dune wars init xml

superuke
Dec 07, 2009, 03:01 PM
i have dl the patch 3 times and installed yet each time i check for updates it says i need patch 3.19 i dl it shut of game then restart check for updates and it says it needs 3.19

superuke
Dec 07, 2009, 03:05 PM
ok i am dling the patch for the 4th time

Ahriman
Dec 07, 2009, 03:30 PM
Try downloading the patch from a site and manually installnig, rather than trying to use any kind of auto-patching.

superuke
Dec 07, 2009, 04:06 PM
ok dl patch separately and will install manually thank you for your patience

superuke
Dec 07, 2009, 05:35 PM
yesssssss!!!!!!! working thanx all

The Simple Mind
Dec 11, 2009, 06:10 PM
I am experiencing the same problem as Stochastic, post 66:

I just installed the 1.6.5 patch and got an error message after starting the game (after hints and everything but before the "dawn of man message":

Revolution.ini is missing from C:\Game_files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\BUG Mod
Or C:\Docs and Settings\Adrian\My Documents\My Games\Beyond the Sword\Mods\BUG Mod

The game started but I am missing the HUD (as if I had pressed Alt-I in BtS 3.19) when I start.

Deliverator suggested in post 69:

Also, it is worth clearing your Custom Assets folder of any BUG files as these can conflict with Dune Wars.

and this seemed to resolve Stochastic's problem. However, I have BUG installed in CustomAssets to allow me to play with BUG (for SGs) and BUFFY (for HoF). Is there another work around?

The mod looks fanatastic and I'm keen to play the mod after lurking the recent couple of SGs.

davidlallen
Dec 11, 2009, 07:03 PM
Just to be sure, you did install the main release (1.6.1) before 1.6.5, correct? Does the file revolution.ini exist in your mod directory, <BTS>\Mods\Dune Wars?

If you have both releases and you have that revolution.ini, it is possible that having two BUGs is a fatal conflict. For an experiment, please try uninstalling BUG from customassets to ensure that Dune Wars runs this way, and let us know. If that is the problem, we can ask over on the BUG sub-forum if there is any way to have a customasset BUG and a BUG-based mod co-exist. I hope there is a way.

The Simple Mind
Dec 13, 2009, 11:51 AM
Yes, I installed 1.6.1 first then 1.6.5. I've uninstalled both then re-installed and still the same message & no HUD.

The revolution config settings file is in the mod directory, BTS\Mods\Dune Wars.

I'll have a search through the BUG forum to see if anybody else has encoutered & resolved this problem.

davidlallen
Dec 13, 2009, 12:35 PM
Yes, I installed 1.6.1 first then 1.6.5. I've uninstalled both then re-installed and still the same message & no HUD.

The revolution config settings file is in the mod directory, BTS\Mods\Dune Wars.

I'll have a search through the BUG forum to see if anybody else has encoutered & resolved this problem.

Thanks for the update. Did you also, as an experiment, try emptying out your customassets even though you want BUG there in the long term? This will prove that it is an *interaction* between BUG and DW. If you still can't bring up DW even after emptying customassets, then your problem is purely due to DW and your environment, nothing to do with BUG.

The Simple Mind
Dec 14, 2009, 05:27 PM
We have the technology! The BUG FAQ states that to get mods to run with BUG

If you installed BUG using the standard Single-Player method, you need to modify the INI files for these other mods. For example, to get Next War to work, open the file "Beyond the Sword/Mods/Next War/Next War.ini" in Notepad and change

NoCustomAssets = 0
to

NoCustomAssets = 1

Dune Wars ini now changed and I've now got the user displays :). David, thanks for help & suggestion to check the BUG forum.

Now to play a settler game to get familiar with all the new things!

davidlallen
Dec 14, 2009, 05:34 PM
Great! We don't have a FAQ as such, but thanks for reflecting this information back here. Now other DW players will be able to find it.

VlaDeatHell
Dec 15, 2009, 07:17 AM
Greetings guyz. Funny problem got to admit:
Can't get the download started at all. I follow the link on the welcome page that leads me to a mediafire one but the status just keeps showing "Your download is starting.." for an hour now (left it in the background to see if anything happens). Can anyone confirm this link is still valid? Stopped my antivirus, tried the link under IE and Mozilla, even tried manually saving it via download manager... nothing...
Thanks.

davidlallen
Dec 15, 2009, 09:28 AM
I follow the link on the welcome page that leads me to a mediafire one but the status just keeps showing "Your download is starting.." for an hour now.

I have occasionally had this trouble with mediafire before. This seems to happen when I have a partly downloaded file with the same name already. For example, if I am going to download foo.exe into "My Documents", but there is already a foo.exe in My Documents. This could be a random coincidence or a previous download or whatever. You should delete the old file first or save to a new name.

But to make things a little more complicated, the mediafire downloader appears to cache this information somehow. It is not ideal, but what I have done to make this work is to delete the previous file, exit the browser, and come back in an hour. Then the download works. I don't understand why any of this happens, and my procedure may be some unrelated "voodoo" like washing your car to make it rain.

VlaDeatHell
Dec 15, 2009, 10:08 AM
There was no previous file at all but actually I managed to start it now... Maybe mediafire had some problems, dunno. Thanks anyway. Will write again after I finish some games at the new 1.7, probably Ix and Atreides as they seem to have the major changes.

nielsm
Dec 16, 2009, 06:20 AM
I have the Steam version of Civ4: BtS, which is patch 3.19 according to everything, but the Dune Wars installer doesn't recognise it as BtS 3.19 and refuses to install.

Deliverator
Dec 16, 2009, 06:37 AM
I think until we resolve the Steam issues we should upload a simple ZIP file with the mod in it for Steam users. Quite a large % of players will be Steam users these days and it is a shame that it is tricky for them for to install and enjoy the mod. The 7zip workaround is fair amount of hassle...

negyvenketto
Dec 16, 2009, 08:29 AM
I have the box version of Civ4: BtS, which is patch 3.19 according to everything, but the Dune Wars 1.7 installer doesn't recognise it as BtS 3.19 and refuses to install.
Downloading the zip file now :confused:
Edit: Done & doesn't work. It starts like vanilla BtS, but have the option Unload Mod. Unloaded and Load Mod again. Same. Wanted to start a save from Pick Your Leader Challenge zip file -> CtD with error message in a pop-up window, but it closed automatically and so quick I couldn't catch it.
Tried double click on the save file, starts like BtS, offers to pick a BtS leader -> CtD like before.
Any idea? Please help :cry:
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg194/negyvenketto/DW/regedit.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg194/negyvenketto/DW/properties.jpg

phungus420
Dec 16, 2009, 08:50 AM
I have the box version of Civ4: BtS, which is patch 3.19 according to everything, but the Dune Wars 1.7 installer doesn't recognise it as BtS 3.19 and refuses to install.
Downloading the zip file now :confused:

There is also a report of this occuring in LoR's thread. I can't see how it's possible, but it must be, as the user that reported it in LoR can play version 0.9.7, so they must be updated. In your case please make sure you are updated to 3.19 though, assuming you can totally verify this (if you remember patching that's not verified, sometimes the 3.19 patch messes up, tells the user they are patched, but then does not update), could you please see the end of this thread, and upload the information in your Firaxis's registry as described by Emperor Fool (one of the last posts in that thread):

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=340727


Firaxis's installer also has a problem with messed up registries, and in fact has similar problems with users being unable to patch their games, you can see these in the tech help forum. So the fact this installer does this isn't that bizarre. However we will endeavor to fix this so that the installer works correctly for ALL users. To do this I need the help from people like yourself that have experienced an error, so that we can examine what in your installation is different in the registry. Your help would be invaluable and greatly appreciated.

negyvenketto
Dec 16, 2009, 09:11 AM
I just added a screenshot of the registry to my previous post.
The exported part:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Firaxis Games]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4]
"INSTALLDIR"="C:\\Program Files\\Firaxis Games\\Sid Meier's Civilization 4"
"DEFAULT_LANGUAGE"=dword:00000009

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 - Beyond the Sword]
"INSTALLDIR"="C:\\Program Files\\Firaxis Games\\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\\Beyond the Sword"
"DEFAULT_LANGUAGE"=dword:00000009

phungus420
Dec 16, 2009, 09:23 AM
Oh, wierd, it's using HKCU(current user) instead of HKLM (Local Machine). Do you have a HKLM (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE) registry for firaxis at all?

Thanks alot by the way. If you do find a HKLM registry for firaxis please post it, if not I think I can solve this pretty easily.

negyvenketto
Dec 16, 2009, 09:26 AM
Oups, sorry, just fixed it.

phungus420
Dec 16, 2009, 09:28 AM
Thanks. So basically your version key is only in the HKCU (current user) section (I wonder if this means the patch is only installed for you -and other users on your computer would play an unpatched version of BtS :confused:), that seems weird but OK. Could you please post your HKCU firaxis registry entries again and just leave up the HKLM ones, I need these for reference when I go in to code this check in the install script. Next all I need is to see what a Steam User comes up with and I can update the installer and fix this.

negyvenketto
Dec 16, 2009, 09:37 AM
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Firaxis Games]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\1.00.0000]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\1.61]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\1.74]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 - Beyond the Sword]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 - Beyond the Sword\3.01]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 - Beyond the Sword\3.19]

negyvenketto
Dec 16, 2009, 09:41 AM
I'm happy if it helps you to make better installer.
Any idea why the zipped version doesn't work?

davidlallen
Dec 16, 2009, 10:43 AM
I think until we resolve the Steam issues we should upload a simple ZIP file with the mod in it for Steam users. Quite a large % of players will be Steam users these days and it is a shame that it is tricky for them for to install and enjoy the mod. The 7zip workaround is fair amount of hassle...

Actually I did upload the zipfile a couple of days ago with instructions. Please revisit the download page for 1.7 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=13815) to see. According to the mediafire statistics page, there are 170 downloads of the 1.7 exe and 24 downloads of the 1.7 zip.

As you know, usually we do several patch releases like 1.7.1, 1.7.2 before the next major release, and the patch release uses a different installer. Phungus420 has also contributed a new patch installer which checks to make sure that Mods/Dune Wars/Dune Wars.ini exists. This will prevent another common error, where somebody installs the patch without ever having installed the main release.

@ Phungus420, does the patch installer also insist on a 3.19 registry key?

phungus420
Dec 16, 2009, 10:47 AM
No the patch script doesn't look for BtS at all. It looks for your mod's registry, which the installer creates since you use my install script, then uses that registry to find the install path and double checks by making sure the mod's ini file is there. It will abort as well if it can't find the mod's registry and it's ini file. Since I wrote the installer, I know what Registry will be for the mod though, so a similar error cannot occur.

davidlallen
Dec 16, 2009, 10:48 AM
Edit: Done & doesn't work. It starts like vanilla BtS, but have the option Unload Mod. Unloaded and Load Mod again. Same. Wanted to start a save from Pick Your Leader Challenge zip file -> CtD with error message in a pop-up window, but it closed automatically and so quick I couldn't catch it.
Tried double click on the save file, starts like BtS, offers to pick a BtS leader -> CtD like before.

If you bring up the game and you get the vanilla BTS screen, then something has gone wrong with the install, such as unzipping the zipfile into the wrong directory. I suppose you have a copy of 1.6.1+1.6.5 saved somewhere, please do not break that. But please try the following.

1. Delete directory ...BTS...\mods\Dune Wars
2. Unzip the zipfile into ...BTS...\mods
3. Check that ...BTS...\mods\Dune Wars\Dune Wars.ini exists
4. Check your file My Documents\My Games\Beyond The Sword\civilizationiv.ini. It should have a line like, "Mod = mods\Dune Wars"

negyvenketto
Dec 16, 2009, 11:14 AM
If you bring up the game and you get the vanilla BTS screen, then something has gone wrong with the install, such as unzipping the zipfile into the wrong directory. I suppose you have a copy of 1.6.1+1.6.5 saved somewhere, please do not break that.

I renamed it.


But please try the following.

1. Delete directory ...BTS...\mods\Dune Wars
2. Unzip the zipfile into ...BTS...\mods
3. Check that ...BTS...\mods\Dune Wars\Dune Wars.ini exists

Done


4. Check your file My Documents\My Games\Beyond The Sword\civilizationiv.ini. It should have a line like, "Mod = mods\Dune Wars"
No. I just used the desktop icon of the previous version. Should be fine. It starts:
"C:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Civ4BeyondSword.exe" mod=\Dune Wars

It still loading like this. You can see Dune Wars in top right corner and Unload Mod in the menu
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg194/negyvenketto/DW/Civ4ScreenShot0140.jpg

negyvenketto
Dec 16, 2009, 11:45 AM
I renamed back the 1.6.5 to Mods\Dune Wars and it doesn't want to work either. It seems I did something wrong :(
I go back and re-install.

davidlallen
Dec 16, 2009, 12:16 PM
No the patch script doesn't look for BtS at all. It looks for your mod's registry, which the installer creates since you use my install script, then uses that registry to find the install path and double checks by making sure the mod's ini file is there. It will abort as well if it can't find the mod's registry and it's ini file. Since I wrote the installer, I know what Registry will be for the mod though, so a similar error cannot occur.

Hm, that is bad news. Because the main installer is failing for steam registry and possibly other types, I have posted a zip file which does not use the installer. Everybody who uses the zip file to install the main release will be unable to install a patch using the patch installer.

Fortunately, we have a little time to think about this since I have no immediate plan for 1.7.1. That is to say, there will definitely be a 1.7.1 release at some time, but I do not have a specific date in mind. So it will be at least a couple of weeks.

negyvenketto
Dec 16, 2009, 12:34 PM
:whew: Finally I made it. Had to delete ..\My Games\BtS\Mods\Dune Wars folder
It's working now.

phungus420
Dec 16, 2009, 05:56 PM
For those having issues with the current installer, please see this thread if you want to help me fix it for future use:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8733357&postcount=1

mikey_53140
Dec 16, 2009, 10:01 PM
hi, i tried version 1-6-1 of your mod and love it. the site where the latest version of your mod is blocked where I live. Is there another place I can download it from?

davidlallen
Dec 16, 2009, 10:06 PM
hi, i tried version 1-6-1 of your mod and love it. the site where the latest version of your mod is blocked where I live. Is there another place I can download it from?

The site mediafire.com is where we have placed both 1.6.1 and the latest version, 1.7. So if you got 1.6.1 from there, you should be able to get 1.7. However, I know that 1.6.1 has been copied to several other sites, and perhaps these other sites have not copied 1.7 since it is very recent. Which site did you get 1.6.1 from?

Ahriman
Dec 16, 2009, 10:41 PM
Perhaps the moddb http://www.moddb.com/mods/dune-wars, which we have not yet updated to 1.7?

phungus420
Dec 17, 2009, 09:41 AM
I've written a new testing installer. I'm hoping this script has fixed the problems the installer was having with Steam versions of BtS, as well as the versions which signed their BtS registry to the "current user" root, instead of the more logical "local machine" root; however I need users who were having issues to test it to be sure it works. If you are having an issue with the current Dune Wars or Legends of Revolution installer please see here for details:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8734996&postcount=5

mikey_53140
Dec 17, 2009, 09:09 PM
Perhaps the moddb http://www.moddb.com/mods/dune-wars, which we have not yet updated to 1.7?

yes, i got it from there, mediafire is blocked by the Great Firewall...

Deliverator
Dec 18, 2009, 04:19 AM
I can upload the latest version to ModDB, but I was waiting to see if a new Steam compatible version of the installer is going to be available.

phungus420
Dec 18, 2009, 08:35 AM
I can upload the latest version to ModDB, but I was waiting to see if a new Steam compatible version of the installer is going to be available.
No feedback yet from steam users on if the new installer logic works :sad:

arkham4269
Dec 18, 2009, 02:52 PM
No feedback yet from steam users on if the new installer logic works :sad:

Well the one for LoR didn't work; had the same error message as before.

Deliverator
Dec 18, 2009, 04:25 PM
@arkham: have you tried the test installer phungus420 linked to? This one:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8734996&postcount=5

arkham4269
Dec 18, 2009, 04:46 PM
@arkham: have you tried the test installer phungus420 linked to? This one:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8734996&postcount=5

No, I had just tried out his version of LoR which supposedly had a installer that would work. So far the test installer is working fine and confirms that I'm Steam patched to 3.19.

I wonder, however, if I actually having Steam active when you try to install a program would have any difference?

zratchet
Dec 19, 2009, 01:43 PM
I just got the most recent upload to Fileplanet of this Mod, and have Civ4 BTS 3.19 through Steam, and I'm getting a crash on load when it tries to load XML files. Any help?

davidlallen
Dec 19, 2009, 01:50 PM
I just got the most recent upload to Fileplanet of this Mod, and have Civ4 BTS 3.19 through Steam, and I'm getting a crash on load when it tries to load XML files. Any help?

I wasn't aware fileplanet was hosting DW. That is fine. What version do you have? Are you using Windows Vista? Assuming you have DW version 1.6 and Vista, probably what you need to do is right click on the icon and select "run as administrator". You can also upgrade to the more recent version 1.7 at this link (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=13815). Although this will run in normal user mode under vista, the installer may not like your steam installation.

zratchet
Dec 19, 2009, 02:01 PM
I wasn't aware fileplanet was hosting DW. That is fine. What version do you have? Are you using Windows Vista? Assuming you have DW version 1.6 and Vista, probably what you need to do is right click on the icon and select "run as administrator". You can also upgrade to the more recent version 1.7 at this link (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=13815). Although this will run in normal user mode under vista, the installer may not like your steam installation.

I got 1.61 from Fileplanet. I am using Vista, but when I "run as administrator" I get the error message "Mods\Dune Wars \ is an invalid mod directory, ignoring" and it just runs standard BTS. I also tried running BTS as an admin and starting it from in game, which just gives me the XML error I got in the first place. I'll try 1.7, do I need to uninstall 1.6 first?

Thanks for the quick reply!

Sporadic
Dec 21, 2009, 03:26 PM
My brother and i play civ over a lan, we have downloaded and installed dunewars version 1.7, but no matter how many times we try to play at some point or another the game will go out of sync. This almost never happens in vannilia civ and when it does it's not a prob, because we just load auto save and continue, but in dunewars at the end of the first turn from auto save, without fail, a game sync error will occur.
It's prob worth mentioning that i run on vista but me bro is on xp, not sure if that would cause troubles.

Any suggestions on how this might be fixed, or even the general direction to look in would be appreciated. Thx!

davidlallen
Dec 21, 2009, 05:01 PM
My brother and i play civ over a lan, we have downloaded and installed dunewars version 1.7, but no matter how many times we try to play at some point or another the game will go out of sync.

I remembered a guide (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=188460) somewhere on the forum which contains details about OOS. The guide is very helpful for programmers. But I doubt non-programmers would get much out of it. There is one tip buried there which will help us to debug this problem. Each player should do the following:

1. Edit your local file, My Games/Beyond The Sword/CivilizationIV.ini. Find these lines:

; Enable the logging system
LoggingEnabled = 0
; Enable synchronization logging
SynchLog = 0

Change both 0 to 1 and save.

2. Start a game and play until out of sync occurs.

3. Find your local file, My Games/Beyond The Sword/Logs/MPLog.txt.

4. *Zip* the file since it is large, and then post it here. We need all the players' files. The point is to compare them and see at what point they start to be different.

I personally have no experience in debugging OOS problems, but collectively, I am sure we can find a solution.

phungus420
Dec 21, 2009, 05:36 PM
Dune Wars is based on RevolutionDCM 2.6, which does not work in multiplayer. For more information on this, check out the Revolution project forum. Basically that's the main goal for RevDCM right now, is to get it working for MP, but this will take longer then first hoped (originally glider was going for a new years release, but it wol't be done by then, my guess is early February).

davidlallen
Dec 21, 2009, 05:41 PM
Augh! Did previous versions of RevDCM support multiplayer? Is there some detail available about why RevDCM does not support multiplayer (can I help?)

phungus420
Dec 21, 2009, 05:45 PM
I'm sure glider would appreciate any help you could provide. But I don't know, it's kind of his baby right now, fixing this. RevDCM has never been considered to support Multiplayer, but it wasn't until the 2.6 release that things completely broke (previously it was just liable to go OOS, now it WILL go OOS).

I suggest you take a look at his MP development build on the SVN. Last post of his says this is a playtest beta, I think he wants people to check it out, and try to break it:

https://revolutiondcm.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/revolutiondcm/branches/RevolutionMP/

phungus420
Dec 21, 2009, 05:49 PM
Come to think of it, I should probably download that SVN, and package it in a zip and announce the MP beta in LoR's and RevDCM's forum as well. The more people who can test it, the better. I think I'll put it in a zip, instead of an installer, because we really want people to test this who will take the time to post saves that break, and do beta testing to help find bugs and squash them. If you release something as an installer, it's more general public release, and alot of users that try things in installer form simply wol't give you good feedback. Which is fine for an official release, but not very useful for a initial public beta build.

Sporadic
Dec 22, 2009, 03:51 PM
Thanks for the speedy and helpful response guys! As soon as me bro and me play again, i'll get that log file for you. Btw just wanted to say that this is a cracking mod, good effort to all who worked on it and keep it up. Thanks!

Mr.Mund
Apr 14, 2010, 12:15 PM
I've done programming before, but I'm far from being a skilled programmer. As a sworn dune fan, I'd like to contribute - adding subtexts "sid's tips" + + +.
If someone could tell me the basics (programs needed and the files to be modified), I'd be very happy to help :)

davidlallen
Apr 14, 2010, 02:49 PM
Great! We could certainly use more help to fill in the civilopedia text. Please take a look on this thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=342258). A few items have been added there. We can take care of the formatting; please go there and type in the text. That seems to be the hard part.

2nd_renaissance
Apr 30, 2010, 09:23 AM
when I'm in the game, the program will crash if I user ALT+TAB to swich to desktop , my OS is win7 32bit

How do I solve the problem?..

By the way ,I have uninstalled previous version 1.62 ,and install 1.8 ,and i don't have this issue in 1.62

davidlallen
Apr 30, 2010, 10:01 AM
We have not had any other reports of that. Are there other win7 users out there with 1.8? Can you reply whether this is working for you? Does it happen with vanilla civ and/or other mods?

2nd_renaissance
Apr 30, 2010, 10:06 PM
othe mods are OK

It's very strange this issue doesn't happens every time , maybe it is about my pc environment

arkham4269
Aug 29, 2010, 10:07 AM
I'm not sure if this is an installation issue or a bug. I did a clean install, with the patch and music and everything works fine except where the messages show up.

There I have about six lines that never go away saying something about cannot find the bug-options folder. Now I'm running my game via Steam and so I'm sure that is why it can't find it. Yet I can't seem to get those basic six messages to leave. The only way I can see messages is to click the pop-up and read them manually. I still hear the sounds and all, just can't see the messages.

Beyond that everything seems to work fine; I like the music since it seems some more has been added since the last time I played.

davidlallen
Aug 29, 2010, 10:27 AM
I'm not sure which version you are using. 1.8, or something older? The BUG options folder is supposed to be created by the DW installer. Can you please find your folder (My Documents)/My Games/Beyond the Sword, and confirm if it has a Dune Wars directory inside it? Inside the Dune Wars directory should be a UserSettings directory with a whole bunch of ini files inside. If you don't have those files, there is some installer problem.

If running the current installer doesn't create them for you, please manually create the Dune Wars/UserSettings directory; don't worry about creating the ini files, the game should at least stop complaining about the bug options directory.

arkham4269
Aug 29, 2010, 11:07 AM
Well I was pretty sure I was using the most up-to-date patch. I had not gotten around to reinstalling Dune Wars after having to reload Vista. I do have the folder under My Documents but there is no Dune folder. In fact, there is no folder for any of the Mods I have. There is a Mods folder under the BTS folder but nothing in it. Everything seems to be there under the Mods folder where Steam keeps all the BTS stuff. So should I just create a file "Dune Wars" under Mods and call it good?

Poking around I cannot find any folder that is UserSettings. That being said, as far as I can tell, that is the only thing that is a problem with my install. Everything else seems to work just find and I have not had a crash or hiccup w/the game.

davidlallen
Aug 29, 2010, 11:26 AM
I do have the folder under My Documents but there is no Dune folder. In fact, there is no folder for any of the Mods I have.

The reason for creating a folder Dune Wars/UserSettings under (My Documents)/My Games/Beyond the Sword is to support Vista or Windows 7 users who do not have write permission into their own Program Files folder. Many mods still write into Program Files, which means players of those mods must select "Run as Administrator" when they start the mod.

Please create a folder Dune Wars under (My Documents)/My Games/Beyond the Sword, and under that please create a folder UserSettings. If that solves your problem, please let us know; then we can try to understand why the installer failed to create this directory in the first place.

arkham4269
Aug 29, 2010, 11:47 AM
Okay, I found the problem. You're installer worked the way it should. However for security reasons, I have set up separate profiles for my wife and I. However, the folder you describe was created under the base admin profile. I logged in as that, found it, copied it to my profile's My Games folder and I just brought up the game. So far, those messages are gone so I'm assuming it's problem resolved! :D

I guess that is something to mention in the installation. I know my PC security teacher was pushing to never use your admin account to do anything other than do PC maintenance and load programs. However, it makes sense that a lot of the programs would create the game files there instead of under the profile used to actually play the game, especially through Steam. Thanks for the help! :goodjob:

To bad you can't steal the opening movie from Dune 2000 for the beginning movie of this mod. (I loved that game; best use of the C&C engine ever!)

Jester Fool
Aug 29, 2010, 03:43 PM
I Get the following "First-chance exception at 0x77adac0f in Civ4BeyondSword.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation reading location 0x6df73e57.
Unhandled exception at 0x77adac0f in Civ4BeyondSword.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation reading location 0x6df73e57." message when I attach to process. This happens when starting a game (play now and custom start).

davidlallen
Aug 29, 2010, 04:07 PM
What version are you using? If you run a game without using the debugger, does it write anything into the python log (do you have python exceptions and logging enabled?) Does it happen on every start? What operating system are you using?

If you have downloaded the 1.9 beta, please put that feedback onto the 1.9 beta feedback (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=377022) thread, since it is not yet officially released.

jackslinger
Jun 02, 2011, 10:08 AM
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this.

I unistalled civ4 and then reinstalled it from the civilization 4 complete dvd. Then I patched it up to 3.17 and then to 3.19 then finally installed dune wars.

Dune wars seams to work fine until I try to load a game I've just saved, Is this a bug or am I being an idiot! It flashes up a message about not being able to uncompress the file or something but it's to quick to read.

Help me please, I'm really liking this mod but not being able to load makes it unplayable.

Also I have never moded civ 4 before so I know little about it.

ChrisAdams3997
Jun 02, 2011, 11:36 AM
The message you got usually occurs if you've started a game with one patch/version, then updated to a new patch/version that breaks save games (as most of them will). Try starting a new game, saving it, then loading it and let me know what happens.

Also, let me know what version of DuneWars you have installed if you still have the problem after trying that.

jackslinger
Jun 02, 2011, 03:04 PM
I'm playing dune wars 1-9-1b at lest that's what the installer is called.
I installed civ 4 complete from the dvd
then patched beyond the sword to 3.17
then patched beyond the sword to 3.19

It did this the first time I tried to install dune wars (same version), and It can't be because of an updated patch/version because I saved the game and then load the save straight away to test it and the same thing happened.

I've got the game and mod on my external D drive because of limited space and I thought that might affect it so I move the save file to my D drive as well still no change

ChrisAdams3997
Jun 02, 2011, 04:33 PM
We've patched a lot of things since 1.9.1b, and I wasn't even working on Dune Wars at the time of that release, and I don't know if it was a problem specific with it. I do know we haven't had any problems with the latest patches, download 1.9.4 (http://www.mediafire.com/?nulmwls9h9cqsdt), install it right on top of 1.9.1b, and see if it fixes it . It should at least (will definitely break old save games, so start a new one).

Hope that'll solve your problems.

jackslinger
Jun 03, 2011, 07:55 AM
Patched it and it worked fine thanks!:)

seraph07
Aug 18, 2011, 07:10 AM
Hey for Steam users I noticed an issue that I have not seen posted in this thread ( If it has been I didn't notice ) but you should completely exit the steam app. After I did tatI was able to install Dune 1.9 Final from the MOD DB website aswell asthe music pack. However when I patch to 1.9.6 I get weird graphic errors like red circlesaround soldiers and strange terrain textures. I tried the .4 patch and got a million XML erros and CTD. Could anyone give me a hand fixing this?

Deliverator
Aug 19, 2011, 04:20 AM
Hey for Steam users I noticed an issue that I have not seen posted in this thread ( If it has been I didn't notice ) but you should completely exit the steam app. After I did tatI was able to install Dune 1.9 Final from the MOD DB website aswell asthe music pack. However when I patch to 1.9.6 I get weird graphic errors like red circlesaround soldiers and strange terrain textures. I tried the .4 patch and got a million XML erros and CTD. Could anyone give me a hand fixing this?

1.9.6 is a patch for Dune Wars 1.9.1 which is a full version of the mod rather than a patch. It won't work with Dune Wars 1.9 as you have discovered.

To get a working install of 1.9.6:

1. Delete your Dune Wars folder to start with a clean slate. (This will be within your steamapps ... Beyond the Sword folder )
2. Install 1.9.1b (http://www.mediafire.com/?ovktueja83qoczo).
3. Install the 1.9.6 patch (http://www.mediafire.com/?7p0lg9mugwsmw1z).
4. Install the music pack.

The welcome thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=338329) is kept up-to-date with the latest versions.

fahrenderfisch
Sep 09, 2011, 01:10 PM
Hey, I installed DuneWars some months ago, but I dont know when, or when i downloaded it.

Now I wanted to look if there is something new... but I can't find the Version number of my DuneWars...?
I looked In Game (found the CivIV BTS patchVersion), I looked in the mod folders (found a lot of readmes in "...>Mods>DuneWars>docs" folder but none for DuneWars...?

Please: where do I have to look to find out what Version/patch of DuneWars I'm playing???

btw: I don't know the books, only the movie and some old games...
but still: I love to sink into the sandy world of Arrakis by playing this mod. REALLY NICE WORK!!!

davidlallen
Sep 09, 2011, 02:09 PM
To make sure you have the latest version, please uninstall what you have now. Then please download and install 1.9.1. Then finally please download and install 1.9.6. The instructions are given in the first post of the welcome thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=338329).

fahrenderfisch
Sep 12, 2011, 07:24 AM
Oh well... thanks for the quick answer.
I can read and I've already read the instructions and downloaded the files. But that's all I can do...
Please suppose for a moment someone does not have admin privileges on his laptop...
wouldn't it be nice to have some kind of version number written somewhere in the installed mod? maybe in a readme which also includes the changelog?

Sorry for being ironic, just a bad weekend!

davidlallen
Sep 12, 2011, 09:55 AM
There is a version number in the BUG options panel. Depending on how you have configured BUG, I believe the key to bring up this panel is alt-O. Then you can view the versions tab. However, this field is not always kept up to date when a new release is made. To be sure you have the latest, please use 1.9.6.