Get in control of the middle-east oil reserves, as Saddam Hussein, this is for vanilla civ3.

Civs:
Iraq
Syria
America/Israel
Turkey
Iran
Egypt
Greece
Saudi Arabia
Kaukasian states

PTW is also released: find it here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48378)

now 27 people has downloaded this scenario, but 0 has given me credit, how shall I know if you like it if you dont do that?
:)

now 48 people has downloaded this scenario, but 0 has given me credit, how shall I know if you like it if you dont do that?

Well now 50 have. :lol:

I havn't downloaded yet as I have to many sen's at the moment so I've got to delete some.

screenshot :goodjob:

Great one Yoda Power. This one's cool, download it everybody!

Finally credit thanks everybody:D :D :D :D :D :D

you should try to do an modern day one with our growing tensions with iraq.cause this is great!

I doubt the next one will be very interesting... at least in the original Gulf War Iraq had a real army. This time they're more like a big band of guerillas rather than a proper army.

Trip is right, and i wound do more scenario´s with Iraq. Though i am thinking of making a Israel scenario. In the mean time you will have to do with this.

I'll have to download this when I get home. Looks cool!

I was thinking about making a Israel vs. Palestine scenario "expansion pack" for my World of Conflict scenario I'm making. You would play as Israel and you have to quell the Palestinians, which isn't easy because their Suicide bombers are hidden nationality and will just keep coming. This of course would mean a full-scale occupation. If you want to make it using my World of Conflict scenario after it comes out then feel free to, or just make it without it.

vewy interesting....

It's good. I was just playing it.

...your scenario and i am enthusiastic about playing it.

note:how can you create scenarios?????

...your scenario and i am enthusiastic about playing it.

note:how can you create scenarios?????

Originally posted by Favorius
...your scenario and i am enthusiastic about playing it.

note:how can you create scenarios?????

you can do that in the scenario editor, though you need the latest patch to build and play it.

I forgot where I found this scenario so I've only just downloaded it. Looking Good! :)

I hope that in PTW you can put units in transports cause that is what I would do with them American units hanging about near Medina.

This is some good stuff, but Iraq shoulnt really have MA if its in the gulf war. They used soviet tanks, probably the T-56 that woulnt be considered as good as the M1's. You have to make a few thins a more realistic.

Originally posted by Lynx
This is some good stuff, but Iraq shoulnt really have MA if its in the gulf war. They used soviet tanks, probably the T-56 that woulnt be considered as good as the M1's. You have to make a few thins a more realistic.

The MA represents all modern tanks not only american

Wow, why are we going after the Iraqis?

the gulf war of 1991, the iraqi troops invaded Kuwait. They refused to pull out, we launched Operation Desert Storm and defeated Iraq in 100 Hours. thats when we beat them.

And BTW, the T-56 are not modern tanks. Ive played as the USA in this and i got my arse kicked because i was up against MA which really should have been normal tanks. Saddam underestimated the american army in 1991 and the M1 can go 60 MPH across the trackless desert. He didnt think they could do that, which implies that he coulnt either. and they are using the same civ unit as their tanks??? Not to mention the US was not alone and their forces should be considerably larger.

Yeah, but the Iraqis never hurt the Americans, only the Kuwaitis

Possibly Iraq could be given a few MA's to represent their more modern tanks (T-72s for example), but the rest should really standard tanks, many should possibly be "conscript" or "regular" while US units should all be "veteran" or "elite"

Many of you have good idea´s, i will try make new versions with your help. Note, that they will be for ptw.

That sounds better, but only 4 or 5 MA's for them while the US shopuld have all MA along with mechs. cuz i wanna kill saddam in this! and an Israel scenario would be cool. the war of 67 hehe.

I have ptw now but dont expect the new version to come out before sometime in the new year, im very busy.

Im very busy too, but i could do it myself, just get me a blank map and you will have it sooner than later.

Originally posted by Lynx
just get me a blank map and you will have it sooner than later.

Why a blanck map? Surly it would be easier to make using the existing scenario, but if you want the map it is in the map section here on cfc.

I would rather it be my own work and I would make the map a bit different, you will konw what i mean hen you see it. hehe thanks :D

Great fun!

Destroyed Israel with the aid of Egypt and Syria and razed every city of theirs to the ground and then pillaged EVERY improvement they created!


Iraq seem to be a bit powerful what with the amazing cruise missiles and large navy! What won it for me was "right of passage" agreements and "radar artillery".


Saddam kicks ass :p

Enjoyable!

Originally posted by kittenOFchaos
Great fun!

Destroyed Israel with the aid of Egypt and Syria and razed every city of theirs to the ground and then pillaged EVERY improvement they created!


Iraq seem to be a bit powerful what with the amazing cruise missiles and large navy! What won it for me was "right of passage" agreements and "radar artillery".


Saddam kicks ass :p

Enjoyable!

Glad you liked it and yes i know Iraq is a bit to powerfull but hey its just for fun.

I played this and I beat the living hell out of Iran, hehe.

This scenario is a bit peculiar... I though Saddam was a bit too powerful... but no matter. its still a very good scenario, good job! :goodjob:

The only problem is it takes way too long to load. But it's worth it :D

Made a few minor modifications (set date to Dec. 2002, monthly turns, made map flat, made tactical nuclear weapons availible) and played it. I'm at 2005, under a communist government, and I'm finishing my infastructure. I'm gearing up for an invasion of Syria.

Originally posted by rmsharpe
Made a few minor modifications (set date to Dec. 2002, monthly turns, made map flat, made tactical nuclear weapons availible) and played it. I'm at 2005, under a communist government, and I'm finishing my infastructure. I'm gearing up for an invasion of Syria.

So you made a ptw version. But you have the start date wrong, i think it should be set by the start of the gulf war.

btw i thought you only played civ2

I had thought that this was intended to be a current scenario. If I'd known it was at the Gulf War, I would have set it to August 1990, at the time of invasion.

But Georgia, Armenia, etc. would be part of the Soviet Union at that time.

Khomeini was dead in 1989. Ali Khameini took over then, and has been absolute leader since.

And I do play PTW :p

yeah you are right i know the accuracy of this scenario is not that big, but if you help me a little i can do a new version only for ptw with all the things right.

Originally posted by sebsage
Yeah, but the Iraqis never hurt the Americans, only the Kuwaitis

yeah and kuwaitis were slant drilling oil under the Iraqi border, AND Iraq was our buddy in the Iran-Iraq war....at that time we didnt care that they sent 12-14 yr old boys out to war, we didnt care they had chemical weapons, just so long as they were used on Iran. So apparently its OK for Saddam to drop chemical and biological weapons on people when it serves our own purpose here in America, but once he uses em on the Marsh people down south...then we dont like it. However the majority of people in Souther Iraq were sympathetic to Iran, so Saddam was merely defending his country.

90% of what the American government does is complete BS to me. and if it baffles me as to the reasons why? I'm sure the people they screw over as just as baffled. I mean look in the time span of 3 yrs. (88-91) Iraq went from our best buddies in the Middle East, to a country led by a "monster" yet he was in power when he was our buddy.....when it was OK to use chemical weapons....when it was OK to do alot of things...suddenly its NOT in the US' best interest for Iraq to take over kuwait and they're deemed "evil"

you could almost say the same thing about the Afghani's. They were cool with us in the 80's when they were fighting the Soviets, led by a decent fighter named Osama bin Laden.....then he comes back to stab us in the back......now I'm not claiming any sympathy to Osama. Cuz he was totally wrong, but the thing is we befriended that man during the 80's.

the guy got lots of oil, we want it.. so we go get it.

There isn't that much oil in Iraq. (If any i dunno)

More in Alaska, but it would be more controversial to tear up the wasteland in our own backyard than to declare war on every single OPEC nation.

I hope this isnt going to turn into a political discussion... Im downloading the scenario now! Hope to try it out soon, any reccomendations on what civ i should be??

Iraq is second largest in oil exports, so THEY DO HAVE LOTS OF OIL!

Nice scenario Yoda, quite nice.

ITs a fun scenario. Thank you for making it.

:goodjob: :) This scenario looks great and I want to download it, but im kinda of computer "dumb" when it comes to downloading scenarios off of here. Could any of you tell me how to download this scenario step by step? I really really want to play it. Thanks:D

it's easy civ3king first you click on the attachment for the scenario then i hit save then when done i unzip it into my scenario's folder for civ 3 which should be under program files/infogrames interactive/civilizationIII/scenarios. all you do is right click on the zip folder with the scenario after you have moved it into the scenarios folder then hit unzip and follow the instructions then you start the game and load scenario if done correctly you should be able to play.

Lately I have been hooked uped on scenarios and this one looks pretty interesting. Will try it tomorrow, also some comments will come in the future.

this scenario is great i personally enjoy getting saddam's butt kicked by all the countries..............lol

As I promised, here's my comments:

# The map is good, large enough, but it is necessary to have the northern part of the map in this scenario (the conflict is set to the middle-east, so the northern countries feels a bit un-necessary)? One more thing why is Egypt in this scenario?

# Quite a challange, Iraq can get whiped out pretty quickly if all the other nations declare war upon it

# The biggest drawback is that every city in the realm are building warriors when the game starts, can't this be fixed?

Enough of comments for now. Instead here's the current setting in my game: 2670 BC and the Americans are gracious towards me (something is wrong here), Syria is no more, hehe. Lost one of the northern cities in the war against Syria. Have taken 2 good cities from them that I kept the rest was abondoned or taken by the turks.

First of all i would like to thanks all the people that has given me credit:)

# The map is good, large enough, but it is necessary to have the northern part of the map in this scenario (the conflict is set to the middle-east, so the northern countries feels a bit un-necessary)? One more thing why is Egypt in this scenario?


The map was not made for this scenario(though i am the maker of the map) thats why egypt and the northen countries is there.

# Quite a challange, Iraq can get whiped out pretty quickly if all the other nations declare war upon it

well thats how it should be, i mean Iraq lost the Gulf War.

# The biggest drawback is that every city in the realm are building warriors when the game starts, can't this be fixed?

I know its irritating but i cant fix it( its the same with all scenarios).

Enough of comments for now. Instead here's the current setting in my game: 2670 BC and the Americans are gracious towards me (something is wrong here), Syria is no more, hehe. Lost one of the northern cities in the war against Syria. Have taken 2 good cities from them that I kept the rest was abondoned or taken by the turks.

Cool, may i see a screenshot?

Thanks for the credit.:)

oh btw, this scenario has been rated to 3, not to sound picky but it just annoys me a little as i have only got so good credit, someone obviously dont like it, come and tell me why, i woundt get mad at you:)

Originally posted by Yoda Power
I know its irritating but i cant fix it( its the same with all scenarios).

i think that if you unflag every unit you're not supposed to build (all older than infantry i suggest) All Will Build or oldest unit avariable (even if its obsolete).

I got a question how do you get a screenshot from the game can someone tell me how please thanks.

Just press the button Print Scrn (print screen) on your keyboard, it should be located at the top right corner, u can't miss it.

After this is made, open a image-editor (like paint/photoshop or whatever) and open a new image, then press ctrl+v (for insert the screen-shot). And voila there u have the screen-shot. Now u try it out.

Sure Yoda-Power one screenshot coming up.

Here you go:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/Iraq_2670.jpg

If I haven't mentiond it before I do it know the difficult setting is emperor.

Nice Silverblade:goodjob:

thanks silverblade that helps out now i can send some of my screenshots if asked.

is this for PTW? because im using normal Civ3 instead!?!

anyway.
settlers are left on still.

Cities havnt got most improvements.

Iraq has MAJOR Money issues.

Iraq's extra oil does nothing, since he cant trade it because everyone else has oil....but then thats a Civ3 problem, where one oil tile can supply your whole army ;)

Low Happyness even when not at war....

Did Iraq have Ships? didnt think they was the same level as America, and i know for SURE they didnt have aircraft carriers...

Iraq with modern Armour? Only America should have these, at great cost....

Should have loads of Inf, some Mech Inf and tanks, not only mech inf.....

anyway, i had great fun watching Iraq get destroyed...... :love:

Originally posted by Overlag
...Iraq with modern Armour? Only America should have these, at great cost....


You got a good point there, the tanks of Iraq should be un-modern, maybe they can use the same unit, but modify it and call it something more suitable than modern armor. By modify it I also mean to lower it's stats.

you could just get another unit from the downloads and make an iraqi tank for the scenario

Two questions,

1) can't you give do the upcoming war with Iraq but give Iraq some Tactical Nukes to simulate chemical and biological weapons

2) How do you change the civ that you play as in the scenarios?

Originally posted by Nitro_3985
Two questions,

1) can't you give do the upcoming war with Iraq but give Iraq some Tactical Nukes to simulate chemical and biological weapons

2) How do you change the civ that you play as in the scenarios? I think the first is a good idea and to your second you go to civ 3 editor open up the scenario then player properties or scenario properties not sure which one it is but then you will see all the civs and one is checked as the human player uncheck that civ then find the civ you want to use then check that as the human player then save your scenario I hope this helps out:D

thx that worked

Good work Yoda

no problem glad to help:D

thanks for answering the question horsematrix:)

Nitro_3985: Its easy to add those nukes you want, just those a player(in the editor) and place the nukes.

it's no problem yoda evreyone has helped me and if i can help someone else great thats what I like about this site evreyone is nice and helpful:D

'nother n00b question.

Does changing the settings for the game with civ 3 mod change the actual game rules or just make a new scenario with different rules?

thats a good question nitro3985 i can't answer that one maybe someone else can i'm curious too:D

Originally posted by Nitro_3985
'nother n00b question.

Does changing the settings for the game with civ 3 mod change the actual game rules or just make a new scenario with different rules?

you cannot change the Basic game rules when editing in a scenario, if that was what you meant?

I think he means does it change the regular Civ 3 game? In which case, the answer would be no. Everything done in the editor does not affect the Civ 3 basic game. It basically makes a new scenario with different rules.

hey if any1 here can tell me how to take screenshots it would b vary helpful thanx :rocket2:

You probably should ask out in the main C&C forum.

To take a screenshot, hit the "print screen" or "prt Scrn" (it may be slightly different than these). Then, open a art program like Paint. Go to Edit, and hit copy. Then save the file as a jpeg or gif (bmp's are toooooo large usually). Then to upload it, hit post reply, and go down to the bottom where it allows you to upload an image or file, and follow the instructions.

Hope this helps.

why does evey country start with stealth bombers?

Originally posted by snakeofash
why does evey country start with stealth bombers?

well, because i had such a bad knowledge on military, when i made it. And as i had sais before: This is not a very historic accurate scenario.

Ive just downloded this senerio but it doesnt show up in the scenerio lode list is this for play the world or vanilla

i have vanilla civ and it works for me did you unzip it to your civ3 scenario's folder?

Originally posted by Yoda Power
now 27 people has downloaded this scenario, but 0 has given me credit, how shall I know if you like it if you dont do that?
:)

haha i had forgotten about this post, now 1220 people has downladed it:lol:

Mr.Assad and Mr.Hussein (me) have fulfilled their dreams.Syria already had annexed Libanon and Jordan and now Israel is Syrian occupied,the North (Haifa) completely devastated.Also small parts of Saudi-Arabia were annexed and Syrian settlers are pouring into the desert.
Iraq has occupied Kuwait and almost all of Saudi-Arabia,now controlling 40% of the world oil reserves.They even managed to break up NATO.The Arabian peninsula is overflooded by the poor masses of Iraq,Syria and Iran wanting their own piece of the great Muslim victory,now as Saddam rules over Mecca and Medina.

thanks thats what the prob was. I was puting it in the ptw scenerio folder Opps

I have begun to make a new version for PTW. It will be released in a not so far future.

Is there any way to change the civ you play as? I tried setting the "human player" checkmark in Player properties, but when I start my game it immediatly shows that "You have suffered a humiliating loss". I'm completely lost as to what to do.

Originally posted by tribune militum
Is there any way to change the civ you play as? I tried setting the "human player" checkmark in Player properties, but when I start my game it immediatly shows that "You have suffered a humiliating loss". I'm completely lost as to what to do.

that was weird, what civ did you those?

The "embarrasing defeat" appears for the Caucasian nations, the former rebublics. And I also noticed there is a message America has been defeated when you play as someone other then the Americans (when I put them as human player, there were no problems). As for the Caucasians I even swithced the difficulty from Warlord to Chieftain to see if there is any difference. I still got the Embarrasing defeat as the scenario was loading...

hmm, did you edit the scenario?

Originally posted by Nitro_3985
Two questions,

1) can't you give do the upcoming war with Iraq but give Iraq some Tactical Nukes to simulate chemical and biological weapons


How would that make it more realistic for the modern war? Look at all those weapons they've used so far... :rolleyes:

Maybe you should add a few "planted" US tactical nukes, in the center of Iraqi territory. ;)

Anyway, on a more practical note, you should probably weaken the Iraqi military a little bit in terms of units, but remember the Iraqi army in 1990 was twice as large as the amount of units the US sent over there. So they should have twice as many crappier units as America. I also think that balancing it out so that every side has a chance of winning is a good move. Especially if you can set it up for multiplayer! ;)

the PTW version is finish find it here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48378)

:-))

I added a bunch more to the IRaqi Military- then played as US, and got Crushed!!! :-(

Overall, great scenario!

I just wanted to say that this scenario is great I've changed a few things around to fit my personal needs in the game but it's all around one of the funest scenarios I've played :goodjob:

just so you know, Osama bin Laden is not a Great Leader of Iraq. He has no relations with Saddams regime. In fact, 15 of the 19 September 11th hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, and 0 were from Iraq. bin Laden hates Saddam. The only things they have in common is that they are both evil and they both dislike the USA. I'm not pro-Saddam or anti-American, but I didn't support The Second Gulf War and I hate George Bush. He lied to his people. He said that he knew where the so-called Weapons of Mass Destruction were, but he found NOTHING. My point is bin Laden isn't related to Iraq, so he shouldn't be their leader. Instead, put someone like "Uday Hussien" or "Chemical Ali"

BTW, I'd make America's agression level 5; we were attacked, but not by Iraq.
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evreyone is entitled to their oppinion thats whats so great about america however you should know that wmd were the main but not the only reason we attacked iraq the other reason was the awful treatment and the oppression of his people and if i'm not mistaken they seemed kinda happy that america helped free them and can't wait until all the troops are home iraq supported terrorism and I believe if we just left the whole situation alone that terrorists might have gotten a hold of some wmd and we'd be in worse shape then 9/11.However I really don't see what this has to do with this game I agree that bin laden had nothing to do with saddam but if you want to put him in the scenario then so be it thats whats so great about freedom the one thing the iraqis didn't have but now do thanks to the sacrafices of the american and british troops I just wanted to state my opinon on this and just hope that we could talk about civ if I wanted to talk or read this stuff I'd go to some message boards...........:rotfl: anyways you still have a good point on things but as I said I think we should talk about civ thats all :D

They may already have been brought up, but a few suggestions:

1) Stop the Iraqi access to the Stealth bomber. It just feels weird. Alternatively, call it a 'Su24' or whatever and weaken it.
2) You need to segregate the weapons in the game more. The US should have better armoured firepower than everyone else, there should be a larger difference between Iraqi Armour and other units. Turkey, Iraq and Egypt, for example, used completely different weapons systems.
3) Perhaps give Iraq and Iran some ultra-cheap, maintenance-free but rather weak 'conscript' units and allow them to field vast numbers of them. Alternatively, prevent them from building such conscripts (to prevent oversized armies) but give them a huge amount to start with.
4) Fix the typos. 'Headquarters' and 'Terrorists' should be spelt correctly.
5) Perhaps use Gramphos's all-powerful savegame editing tool. ;)
6) Find a way to prevent everyone from going democratic. Perhaps give only certain nations dmeocracy and make democracy a technology that cannot be traded early in the game (by making it's prerequisite something that will take time to achieve).


Essentially, it is a fun scenario but it could be so much better if you added detail and individual weaponry for many of the nations.

I would really love this scenario to bits if you spruced it up. :)

you guys know that the guy that gets saddam gets 50,000,000 US?

Hi!

YODA: Could you a bit improve your scenario?
I mean, it would be a great thing, if I (we) could play it with friends(multiplayer). We tried, but the game crashes at the science advisor.

That's all.

Hi!

I am not sure about this, but how would regicide work on this scenario?

That's all.

Did you play this version or the PTW version (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48378)?

sorry for the late reply

Originally posted by Lynx
you guys know that the guy that gets saddam gets 50,000,000 US?

wow, whens the next flight out to syria......

:crazyeye:

why cool yoda power! thanks!

sorry to double post but saddams finally been caught!

useless: Learn to love the "Edit" button.

sorry..

Glad you like it:)

who wouldnt? Its always fun to fight the gulf war out nevermin the side you would be on.

well done, good scenario however strolled it by making 'right of passage with the syrians, invading and defending kuwait with minimal forces, engaging the yanks in a naval and sea battle in the gulf which allowed me to roll the 'mother of all tank armies' over isreal and conqour them in 2 turns......... ill let you know how these infidel pig dogs fare but i doubt they'll make a comeback. a suggestion would be how about making Jordan another player, lebanon etc a few locked alliances.... that sort of thing. 8/10 well done! get yourself laid:goodjob:

I think its interesting people still like this scenario, afterall its really poor quality compared to some of the new ones. :hmm:

Hey Yoda could you possibly make it into a C3C version and if you can't well I can see a lot of work involed if you do make historically acurate. But anyways NICE LOVE KICKIN SADDAMS A$$!!!!!!!!

Is this scenario for PTW, Conquests, or 'vanilla'?

If I play this one, I'll probably do some editing and give most of the countries old Soviet tanks (I've downloaded TONS of Soviet tank graphics).

Originally posted by Count Red
Is this scenario for PTW, Conquests, or 'vanilla'?

If I play this one, I'll probably do some editing and give most of the countries old Soviet tanks (I've downloaded TONS of Soviet tank graphics). This is for vanilla civ3. There is a link to the PTW version in the first post. No C3C version has been made.

edit: just saw there wasn't a link, will put it in right away...

Yoda could you possibly make a C3C version? and if possible could you make it historically acurate

Originally posted by Drivebymaster
Yoda could you possibly make a C3C version? and if possible could you make it historically acurate I would like to make a c3c version, but I dont have the time right now. Maybe sometime next month.

ok