We now have Hoover Dam. This is a primary goal for this Age, so we are well on our way to Victory! EDIT:We have Oil in the North by Eileen. We also have just one city left to conquer in the Byzantine war. We also have gained a Great Leader! I would imagine that this one will be chosen to lead our first real Army. If so, what would you like to see in this Army? Cavalry? Let me know.

As far as research goes, I figure a beeline to Motorized Transportation. Please let me know how you feel about this. We are still weak compared to the EDIT: Greeks, but we have the lead in most categories.

I'd also like to get a T/C in on Friday. Not sure what time, I'll keep you posted.

We will be using this save. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=222279&d=1248621725)

Cavalry army...definitely. I'd say finish the Byzantines, then it's the Ottomans turn. I'd like to see Artillery before we go overseas, trebs and cannons just don't get it. If Maeve doesn't have a Barracks, build one, then Cavalry until Tanks, then tanks.

I do love to play with Cavalry Armies, particularly in Conquests with that extra movement point. Watch out for when the Ottomans get Siphai though.

yup, cavalry. just have to win at first, infantry can come with MA armies.

T/C has started.

Running Chat Log:

<Cyc>: Starting T/C
<Cyc>: Bringing up Civ 3
<Cyc>: Checking Instructions
<Cyc>: Checking and doing minor MM
<Cyc>: Woke Orgetorix and Created Army. Loaded it w/Vet Cavs (3)
<Cyc>: Moved Army to hills North of Trebizond
<Cyc>: End of Pre-Turn
<Cyc>: 1375AD/ 364g /+52gpt
<Cyc>: Combustion in 12
<Cyc>: The Chinese sign a military alliance against us with the Greeks
<Cyc>: Greks send Vet Cav out of Dover to Attack Gemma. Cav red-lines against Vet Inf
<Cyc>: Cairde deal for Silks ends, but Cairde renegoiate same deal
<Cyc>: Tara Bank--> Inf
<Cyc>: Glynnis Bank--> Factory
<Cyc>: Correction: Tara completed a Stock Exchange
<Cyc>: Caitlyn Hospital--> Harbor
<Cyc>: Siobhan Cav--> Hospital
<Cyc>: Maire Marketplace--> Aqueduct
<Cyc>: Imbolc Cathedral--> Marketplace
<Cyc>: Athens completes Universal Suffrage
<Cyc>: Otomans land Reg Rifle next to Reading
<Cyc>: Chinese LB that had been on our land in the North moves South, another Chinese LB leaves Kaifeng, both head towards Anwyn
<Cyc>: Ottoman LB moves next to Sardica
<Cyc>: Chinese move LB towards Nicaea
<Cyc>: Elite Spear Falcon02 kills red-lined Greek Cav
<Cyc>: Cav Army kils vet Rifleman in Trebizond
<Cyc>: Vet cav red-lines against Vet Rifle in Trebi
<Cyc>: Vet Cav dies against same Rifle
<Cyc>: Vet cav red-lines against same Rifle
<Cyc>: Vet Cav red-lines against same Rifle, but is victorious nd takes the City
<Cyc>: The Byzantines are no longer a threat to us.
<Cyc>: Our happiness has increased greatly
<Cyc>: Did some MM and readjusted the sliders
<Cyc>: Elite Cav red-lines against Ottoman Rifle at Reading
<Cyc>: Vet Cav dies against same Rifle
<Cyc>: Vet Cav kills same Rifle
<Cyc>: Vet Cav kills reg Chinese Crusader outside Trebizond
<Cyc>: Elite GS in Sardica kills Ottoman LB
<Cyc>: End of turn 1
<Cyc>: 1380AD/ 424g/ +71gpt
<Cyc>: Combustion in 7
<Cyc>: Sliders at 4.6.0
<Cyc>: Our people want to build The Heroic Epic
<Cyc>: Our people want to build The Military Academy
<Cyc>: Maeve Cav--> Cav
<Cyc>: Nicaea Temple-->Marketplace
<Cyc>: Molly Frigate--> Bank
<Cyc>: Rhiannon Inf--> Inf
<Cyc>: Smyrna Cathedral--> Aqueduct
<Cyc>: Breyr Cavalry--> Hospital
<Cyc>: Coventry Cathedral-->Factory
<Cyc>: Green #11 Granary--> Inf
<Cyc>: Northern Chinese LBs move East, away from Anwyn
<Cyc>: Persians move Vet Guerilla next to Falcon's Haven
<Cyc>: Sign alliance with the Cairde against the Persians
<Cyc>: Trebs in FH half-life Guerilla
<Cyc>: Elite Cav redlined Guerilla, but dies
<Cyc>: Elite Inf kills Guerilla, but red-lines doing so
<Cyc>: Vet Inf covers redlined Inf
<Cyc>: End of turn 2
<Cyc>: 1385AD/ 495g/ +40gpt
<Cyc>: Combustion in 6
<Cyc>: Saving. Taking a break
<Cyc>: Back
<Cyc>: Pressing Enter
<Cyc>: Ottomans declare war on the Cairde
<Cyc>: China declare war on the Cairde
<Cyc>: Ottoman LB dies attacking Vet Cav
<Cyc>: Tara Inf--> Inf
<Cyc>: Caitlyn Harbor--> Stock Exchange
<Cyc>: Richmond Harbor--> Marketplace
<Cyc>: Gemma Library--> Cathedral
<Cyc>: Meaghan Marketplace--> Cathedral
<Cyc>: Vet Frigate sinks against Greek Ironclad
<Cyc>: Falcon02 back in Gemma
<Cyc>: Vet Cav kills Greek Vet Cav advancing to Gemma
<Cyc>: Cav Army attacks Ergili (Chinese) and kills Vet Rifle
<Cyc>: Army attacks again, kills reg Spear, takes city
<Cyc>: Starts Temple
<Cyc>: End turn 3
<Cyc>: 1390AD/ 535g/ +48gpt
<Cyc>: Combustion in 5
<Cyc>: Moira Hospital--> Stock Exchange
<Cyc>: Our people want to build Battlefield Medicine
<Cyc>: Rhiannon Infantry-->Heroic Epic
<Cyc>: Fionna Cav--> Cav
<Cyc>: Camulodunum Library-->Cathedral
<Cyc>: Vet Cav out of Anwyn kills Chinese LB
<Cyc>: Vet Cav out of Camulodunum kills Chinese LB
<Cyc>: Rush Temple in Ergili
<Cyc>: for 116 gold
<Cyc>: Vet Cav kills Reg Spear and takes Shantung
<Cyc>: Starts Temple
<Cyc>: End turn 4
<Cyc>: 1395AD/ 468g/ +45gpt
<Cyc>: Combustion in 4
<Cyc>: Tara Inf--> Inf
<Cyc>: City Red Inf--> Factory
<Cyc>: Nemausus Marketplace--> Factory
<Cyc>: Reading Artie--> Artie
<Cyc>: Cav Army attacks and takes Chalcedon (Chi)
<Cyc>: Artie in Reading bombards Greek Vet Cav and red-lines it
<Cyc>: Vet Cav kills red-lined Greek Cav and promotes to Elite
<Cyc>: Vet Cav attacks Hereclea and kills reg Rifle
<Cyc>: TO's Return Elite* Cav attacks Hereclea and kills Reg Spear, taking city
<Cyc>: End of turn 5
<Cyc>: 1400AD/ 514g/ +50gpt
<Cyc>: Combustion in 3
<Cyc>: Molly Bank--> Stock Exchange
<Cyc>: Warwick Bank-->Factory
<Cyc>: Tavia Artie--> Artie
<Cyc>: Back
<Cyc>: Rush Temple in Trebizond
<Cyc>: Eite and Vet Cavs attack Anyang, redline and retreat
<Cyc>: End of turn 6
<Cyc>: 1404AD/ 464g/ +59gpt
<Cyc>: Combustion in 2
+++ ChanServ has given op to Chieftess
+++ Chieftess has given voice to Chieftess
<Cyc>: hey CT
<Cyc>: Tara Inf--> Battlefield Medicine
<Cyc>: Nottingham Marketplace--> Cathedral
<Cyc>: Maeve Bank--> Cav
<Cyc>: Aerona Hospital--> Bank
<Cyc>: Trebizond--> Temple--> Cathedral
<Cyc>: Siobhan Hospital--> Cavalry
<Cyc>: Birmingham Aqueduct--> Library
<Cyc>: Gwendolyn Marketplace--> Cathedral
<Cyc>: Elite Pikeman kills Chinese LB
<Cyc>: Vet Cav redlines attacks Anyang
<Cyc>: Vet Cav redlines during attacks Anyang
<Cyc>: Elite Cav kills Greek Cav
<Cyc>: End of turn 7
<Cyc>: 1410AD/ 525g/ +271gpt
<Cyc>: Combustion in 1
<Cyc>: Our Scientists have learned Combustion, started Mass Production
<Cyc>: Rhiannon Heroic Epic--> Hospital
<Cyc>: Breyr Hospital--> Bank
<Cyc>: Naissus Harbor--> Aqueduct
<Cyc>: Fionna Cav--> Cav
<Cyc>: Septum Library--> Cathedral
<Cyc>: Cav Army attacks Anyang twice and takes city. Starts Temple
<Cyc>: End of turn 8
<Cyc>: 1415AD/ 798g/ +86gpt
<Cyc>: Mass Production in 6
<Cyc>: Moira Stock Exchange-->Civil Defense
<Cyc>: Maire Aqueduct--> Cathedral
<Cyc>: Caitlyn Stock Exchange--> Transport
<Cyc>: Elite Cav attacks Kaifeng, killing Reg Spear, taking city
<Cyc>: Strts Temple
<Cyc>: Elite Pike dies against red-lined Greek Cav
<Cyc>: End of turn 9
<Cyc>: 1420AD/ 886g/ +107gpt
<Cyc>: Mass Prod. in 5
<Cyc>: Siobhan Cav--> Transport
<Cyc>: Vet Cav attacks Jinjan (Persian) and redlines against Vet rifle
<Cyc>: Vet Cav kills Jinjan Reg Rifle
<Cyc>: Vet Cav dies against wounded Persian Rifle
<Cyc>: Vet Cav dies against wounded Persian Rifle
<Cyc>: China accepts Peace for Peace
<Cyc>: End turn 10
<Cyc>: 1425AD/ 990g/ +104gpt
<Cyc>: Mass Production in 4
<Cyc>: Saving and posting

Nothing really new to say, except to repeat myself: Try to grab a luxury when we go overseas.

Any comments on the save?

Rail network looks good; only 2 cities not connected (Kaifeng (1) up in the north (it is not connected by road, either) and Heraclea (1), a somewhat central city in the middle of jungles, though it is roaded).

Our land mass is almost all ours!

We have many cities stagnated at size 6 with surplus food and no geeks/hard hats.

We need to build Transports, Cruisers and Destroyers to invade overseas, but our coastal cities are focused on temples and cathedrals.

I'll try and look later on today. Unfortunately I've been somewhat distracted recently as since installing Civ3 on this laptop I've spent every spare minute playing it!

edit: Had a look and agree with CommandoBob. It will take a while but a pass through all the cities to do some MM with specialists, tiles used, builds would gain a lot. This may be because it was left at the end of the turn without going through everything.

Looks like we're ready to claim the last of our continent but are getting WW, so will need to go overseas quickly or have a period of peace if we can't do that. I'm not sure where we're intending to land, but Ottomans have Ivory, and we could attack that island without interference from the other civs we are at war with. On the other continent the persians have furs and gems so we could work our way up from the bottom of that continent, but would also have to contend with the greeks on the same land mass. Greece/Persia are revolting and we are weak/average to them respectively. Ottomans are in Democracy and we are strong to them so I would be tempted to deal with them first. However our alliance with our little brother commits us to 12 more turns of war with Persia, so an alternative would be to make peace with Ottomans and Greece and concentrate on Persia. Either way take the Persian and Greek city on our continent - could the Cavalry Army in Anyang nab Dover?

Sounds fun, returning to an old favorite is always nice.

I had forgotten how much fun this game is, definitely better than Civ 4. Last night however I ended up declaring war on Germany when I fell asleep with my hand on the mouse. Today I had to start a world war to deal with it as I already had my hands full fighting Greece. Now, both of those civs, plus Babylon who sided with Germany are toast :D

:)
Alittle too much golf and beer yesterday. Will knock out some play time today.

I am thinking that the Ottomans are still our primary target. They will cave quicker than the others for us. More land and another Lux for us. I do not have a problem having an extended war with Persia. After the Ottos, if we can put a quick dent in the Persians, we may be able to turn them as alies against the Greeks. The main reasons I signed an alliance with the Cairde against the Persians was to buddy up to them (made them polite, I believe). The Persians were NOT next door to the Cairde, so they will have to travel to attack. All around a better option for the Cairde than signing a MA against others on their continent.

Will do the Micro Management during a long preturn. I will sacrifice a food or shield for happiness, as War Weariness has been a constant problem for us. We want to keep our cities up and running.

Glad to hear you're enjoying C3C again, Furiey.

Have run through the cities doing micromanagement. And after making adjustments, the builds did gain and growth did increase slightly. But our gpt and our Science did not improve at all. Posting the pre-turn save and leaving to eat dinner. Will return to play in a bit.

Chat Log:
<Cyc>: start T/C
<Cyc>: Starting C3C
<Cyc>: Checking Instructions
<Cyc>: Have done MM
<Cyc>: Ready to take JanJin
<Cyc>: End of pre-turn
<Cyc>: 1425AD/ 990g/ +104gpt
<Cyc>: Mass Production in 4
<Cyc>: Ottomans and Cairde sign a Peace Treaty
<Cyc>: Vet cav dies at Jinjan
<Cyc>: Vet Cav kills wounded Rifle, destroys Jinjan
<Cyc>: Elite Cav kills Greek wounded Greek Vet Cav hich had attacked Gemma and retreated
<Cyc>: Our Elite Cav creates GL named Sean Connery
<Cyc>: End of turn 1
<Cyc>: 1430AD
<Cyc>: 1094g/ +112gpt
<Cyc>: Mass Production in 3
<Cyc>: Cairde Cav advances North towrds Sardica
<Cyc>: Firm up defenses
<Cyc>: Do Workers
<Cyc>: End of turn 2
<Cyc>: 1435AD/ 1207g/ +123gpt
<Cyc>: Mass Production in 2
<Cyc>: Sinead Marketplace--> Aqueduct
<Cyc>: Molly Cav--> Cruiser
<Cyc>: Maeve Cav--> Cav
<Cyc>: Siobhan Transport--> Transport
<Cyc>: Moira Civil Defense--> Destroyer
<Cyc>: Breyr Factory--.> Destroyer
<Cyc>: Fionna Harbor--> Destroyer
<Cyc>: Kyleigh Cathedral--> Factory
<Cyc>: Ottomans land 3 Vet Rifles and 1 Reg Spear
<Cyc>: Wake Caractactus and create Army
<Cyc>: End turn 3
<Cyc>: 1440AD/ 1330g/ +220gpt
<Cyc>: Mass Production in 1
<Cyc>: China and Greece sign a Trade Embargo against us.
<Cyc>: Our scientists learn Mass Production and start Motorized Transportation
<Cyc>: Glynnis Factory--> University
<Cyc>: Anwyn University--> Factory
<Cyc>: Rush harbor in Cesarea for 48 gold
<Cyc>: Ottoman threat eliminated at Rhona
<Cyc>: End turn 4
<Cyc>: 1445AD/ 1502g/ +2gpt
<Cyc>: Mo Tran in 5
<Cyc>: Tara Battlefield Medicine--> Cav
<Cyc>: Maeve Cav--> Cav
<Cyc>: Caesarea Harbor--> Temple
<Cyc>: Rhiannon Stock Exchange--> Wall Street
<Cyc>: Aerona Bank--> Battleship
<Cyc>: Caitlyn Transport--> Transport
<Cyc>: Imbolc Marketplace--> Factory
<Cyc>: Greeks land 1 Reg Archer, 2 Vet Cavs, 1 Reg Guerilla, 1 Reg Med Infantry, 2 Vet Infantry, 1 Reg Infantry
<Cyc>: Move Vet Cav Army to Sharona next to Greek landing
<Cyc>: Vet Cav Army kills Vet Infantry, but redlines.
<Cyc>: Load Army with Cavs
<Cyc>: New Army kills Vet Infantry
<Cyc>: New Army kills Reg Infantry
<Cyc>: Vet Cav kills Guerilla
<Cyc>: Vet Cav kills Vet Cav
<Cyc>: Vet Cav kills Reg Med Inf
<Cyc>: Elite GS kills Reg Archer
<Cyc>: End of turn 5
<Cyc>: 1450AD/ 1448g/ +10gpt
<Cyc>: Mo Trans in 4
<Cyc>: Saving and uploading

One thing I'm wondering. Where are the artillery? Enemy landings should be redlined by artillery before being dispatched.

The Arties are coming, my friend. I will be switching to or begining Aries very quickly. We have Factoies and Infantry completing and those cities will become Artie builders. The Trebuchets were a little too expensive to upgrade, but they are doing satisfactory job in Falcon's Haven.

We have done 10 turns since you last mentioned Artillery, but that's really not a long time. I am working on your request, sir.

Next T/C session?

How about Wednesday at 2100hrs CDT?

Sounds good to me, I might even be able to attend.

Started T/C at 2100 hrs CDT

Running Chat Log:
+++ Chieftess has given voice to Cyc
<Cyc>: Starting T/C
<Cyc>: Starting C3C
<Cyc>: Checking Instructions
<Cyc>: End pre-turn. No real changes.
<Cyc>: 1450AD/1448g/ +10gpt
<Cyc>: Mo Trans in 4
<Cyc>: Moira Destroyer--> Destroyer
<Cyc>: Siobhan Transport--> Transport
<Cyc>: Production in Nicomedia has been sabotaged. Probably by the Greeks!
<Cyc>: (It was a Factory)
<Cyc>: Kocked back to 9 turns till completion
<Cyc>: Knocked back...
<Cyc>: Moved Navy towards the West
<Cyc>: Did Workers
<Cyc>: Moved Vet infantry and Vet GS into Dover territory
<Cyc>: End of turn 1
<Cyc>: 1455AD/ 1462g/ +20gpt
<Cyc>: Mo Trans in 3
<Cyc>: Tara Cav-->Military Academy (pre-start for Pentagon)
<Cyc>: Maeve Cav--> Cav
<Cyc>: Molly Cruiser--> Cruiser
<Cyc>: Breyr Destroyer--> Destroyer
<Cyc>: Fionna--> Destroyer--> Destroyer
<Cyc>: Gwendolyn Cathedral--> Factory
<Cyc>: Greeks move Reg Cav out of Dover, next to Gemma
<Cyc>: Vet Cav attacks Greek Cav out of Gemma
<Cyc>: Vet Cavs dies
<Cyc>: Elite Infantry attacks redlined Greek Cav out of Gemma
<Cyc>: Elite Inf.wins, creating GL named Commando Bob
<Cyc>: CB moved to Tara
<Cyc>: 14/14 Army attacks Dover, kills Reg Infantry
<Cyc>: 13/13 Army attacks Dover, takes city, starts Temple
<Cyc>: Change CB to Army
<Cyc>: Will fill with Tanks
<Cyc>: Moved Navy West
<Cyc>: Workers Done
<Cyc>: End of turn 2
<Cyc>: 1460AD/ 1529g/ +150gpt
<Cyc>: Mo Trans in 2
<Cyc>: Our people want to buils the Pentagon
<Cyc>: Caitlyn Transport--> Transport
<Cyc>: Oxford Marketplace--> Aqueduct
<Cyc>: Anyang--> Marketplace
<Cyc>: completed Temple
<Cyc>: Septum Destroyer--> Destroyer
<Cyc>: Sharona Marketplace-->Aqueduct
<Cyc>: Vet Destroyer sinks Persian Vet Frigate
<Cyc>: Vet Destroyer sinks Persian Vet Ironclad. Promoted to Elite
<Cyc>: End turn3
<Cyc>: 1465AD/ 1677g/ +147
<Cyc>: Motorized Transportation in 1
<Cyc>: We have learned Motorized Transportation start Espionage
<Cyc>: Moira Destroyer--> Destroyer
<Cyc>: Maeve Cav--> Tank
<Cyc>: Siobhan Transport--> Transport
<Cyc>: Birmingham Library--> Factory
<Cyc>: Vet Destroyer sunk by Persian Vet Frigate
<Cyc>: Greeks have landed 4 Vet Cavs, 1 Vet Guerilla, and 1 Reg Infantry next to Rhona
<Cyc>: 14/14 Army kills Reg Inf. Now 8/14
<Cyc>: 13/13 Army kills Vet Guerilla, and 2 Vet Cavs
<Cyc>: Elite GS dies attacking Vet Cav
<Cyc>: Elite Inf kills wounded Vet Cav. Greek threat contained
<Cyc>: Rhiannon switched to Military Academy
<Cyc>: Tara switched to Pentagon (soon to be Intelligence Agency)
<Cyc>: End of turn 4
<Cyc>: 1470AD/ 1823g/ +527gpt
<Cyc>: Espionage in 4
<Cyc>: Ottomans declared war on the Cairde
<Cyc>: Our Vet Transport sinks two Vet Persian Frigates that attack it and is promoted to Elite
<Cyc>: Our people want to build Wall Street.
<Cyc>: Shannon Factory--> Marketplace
<Cyc>: Glynnis Factory--> Hospital
<Cyc>: Vet Destroyer sinks Elite Greek Transport
<Cyc>: Vet Destroyer sinks Vet Greek Frigate
<Cyc>: End of turn 5
<Cyc>: 1475AD/ 2172g/ +398gpt
<Cyc>: Espionage in 3
<Cyc>: Saving and uploading
<Cyc>: First I did a trade with the Cairde. Our Iron for their Wines. :)
<Cyc>: Traded Chine Our World Map and 3gpt for their Territory map

Woo Hoo - Tanks!

Yup. Sorry I haven't been posting any summaries. My free time have been renamed to costly time.

I was making simple errors on my summaries anyway.

Next T/C will be put off until at least Saturday.

From Domestics, no changes to our wants.

I have an estate sale this Saturday and then a party (not because of the deceased!) so I'll be out-of-pocket on Saturday.

Tanks, tanks very much. Now that our continent is secure, I'm all for going after the Ottomans. They have a lux and 2 sources of Saltpeter. I think they make a fine target for our tanks. Speaking of tanks, Maeve can start making them now.

T/C in an hour or so.

Starting T/C.

11:41 *** Cyc joined #turnchat
11:41 +++ Chieftess has given voice to Cyc
11:42 Cyc Starting T/C
11:43 Cyc Starting C3C
11:43 Cyc Checking Instructions
11:47 Cyc No changes necessary
11:48 Cyc End of preturn
11:48 Cyc 1475AD/ 2172g/ +395gpt
11:48 Cyc Espionage in 3
11:58 Cyc Cairde end our Silk deal. Attempt at renegotiation Fail. (see pic)
11:58 Cyc Ottoman bombard Shantung, land troops near London
11:59 Cyc Maeve Tank--> Tank
12:00 Cyc 2 small cites riot
12:00 Cyc Molly Cruiser--> Tank
12:01 Cyc Heraclea Temple--> Marketplace
12:01 Cyc Caitlyn Transport--> Transport
12:02 Cyc Breyr Destroyer--> Destroyer
12:02 Cyc Ergili Harbor--> Library
12:03 Cyc Maire Cathedral--> Factory
12:04 Cyc Green #11 Artillery--> Factory
12:05 Cyc Ottoman had landed 2 Vet LBs and a Reg Spear.
12:05 Cyc New Artie redlines Spear
12:17 Cyc Elite* Cav Sean Connery reports to London. Kills redlined Spear
12:18 Cyc AC Blue 6 kills Vet LB
12:19 Cyc Another Vet AC kills the other LB
12:24 Cyc End turn 1
12:24 Cyc 1480AD/ 2565g/ +378gpt
12:24 Cyc Espionage in 2
12:34 Cyc Ottomans land Vet Rifle at London
12:34 Cyc London riots. Change Destroyer to Cathedral
12:35 Cyc Moira Destroyer--> Destroyer
12:35 Cyc Nottinham riots
12:36 Cyc Molly riots
12:36 Cyc Rhiannon riots
12:37 Cyc 2 or 3 more cities riot
12:37 Cyc Siobhan Transport--> Transport
12:38 Cyc Sardica Marketplace--> Cathedral
12:38 Cyc Fionna Destroyer--> Tank
12:39 Cyc Tavia Artie--> Artie
12:39 Cyc City Red Factory--> harbor
12:40 Cyc Falcon's Haven Factory--> Hospital
12:41 Cyc 1st Artie hal-lifes the Ottoman Rifle. 2nd Artie misses. 3rd Atie red-lines Rifle.
12:43 Cyc Destroyer bombards Ottoman Rifle on Ottoman Continent. wounds it
12:45 Cyc Cruiser halflifes Ottoman Vet Frigate
12:47 Cyc Destroyer sinks wounded Frigate
12:49 Cyc Vet Destroyer sinks greek Ironclad, returns to Moira
12:58 Cyc Elite Infantry kills wounded Rifle. Upgraded Vet Pike to Inf for 180g
13:00 Cyc End turn 2
13:01 Cyc 1485AD/2763g/ +377gpt
13:01 Cyc Espionage in 1
13:06 Cyc A persian Vet Frigate sneaks in and sinks one of our empty Transports. Sorry.
13:06 Cyc We learn Espionage, Start Flight
13:07 Cyc Our people want to build the Intelligance Agency
13:08 Cyc Adrianople Cathedral--> Library
13:08 Cyc Mave Tank--> Tank
13:10 Cyc Rhiannon Military Academy--> Army
13:11 Cyc Warwick Factory--> Tank
13:11 Cyc Shantung Temple--> Marketplace
13:12 Cyc Kaifeng Temple--> Harbor
13:13 Cyc Meaghan Cathedral--> Factory
13:13 Cyc Entremont Cathedral--> Marketplace
13:14 Cyc Camulodunum Cathedral--> Marketplace
13:23 Cyc Vet Destroyer sunk by Greek Ironclad
13:30 Cyc Launch Transport. Land 14/14 Army, Vet Infantry, and Elite* Sean Connery next to Aydin
13:33 Cyc Launch Transport. Land 13/13 Army, Vet Infantry, and Elite* TO'sReturn close to Antalya
13:38 Cyc End tunr 3
13:38 Cyc 1490AD/ 3143g/ +96gpt
13:38 Cyc Flight in 10
13:41 +++ Chieftess has given voice to Furiey
13:41 Furiey hi Cyc
13:41 *** Furiey joined #turnchat
13:41 Cyc Molly Tank--> Tank
13:41 Cyc Hi Furiey
13:42 Cyc We've just landed Cav Armies in Ottomanland
13:43 Cyc Caitlyn Transport--> Battleship
13:43 Cyc Chalcedon Temple--> Harbor
13:44 Cyc Lorna Inf--> Inf
13:44 Cyc City Red Harbor--> Bank
13:45 Furiey Cav Armies - nice!
13:46 Cyc Greeks land 5 Vet Cavs and 1 Vet Infantry next to London
13:49 Cyc 14/14 Army attacks Aydin (Reg Rifle), wins
13:50 Cyc 10/14 Army attacks again (Reg Spear) wins, takes city, starts Harbor
13:52 Cyc 13/13 Army attacks Konya, kills Reg Rifle
13:52 Furiey keep up the good work, I've got to get some dinner
13:58 Cyc cya
13:58 Cyc Load Vet Tanks into Army
13:58 Cyc Load onto Trsnsport
14:03 Cyc End turn 4
14:03 Cyc 1495AD/ 3240g/ +100gpt
14:04 Cyc Flight in 8
14:08 Cyc Tara Pentagon--> Tank
14:08 Cyc London and Constantinople riot
14:09 Cyc Moira Destroyer--> Destroyer
14:09 Cyc Maeve Tank--> Tank
14:10 Cyc Nicaea riots
14:10 Cyc Glynnis Hospital--> Stock Exchange
14:10 Cyc Aerona Battleship--> Battleship
14:11 Cyc Smyrna Harbor--> Library
14:11 Cyc Trebizond riots
14:13 Cyc Breyr Destroyer--> Destroyer
14:13 Cyc Siobhan Transport--> Battleship
14:14 Cyc Naissus Aqueduct--> Cathedral
14:14 Cyc Septum Artie--> Artie
14:15 Cyc Nicomedia Factory--> Harbor
14:15 Cyc Shannon Marketplace--> Hospital
14:18 Cyc Vet AC dies against Greek Vet Cav
14:20 Cyc Vet AC Blue 6 dies against Greek Cav
14:21 Cyc Artie halflifes Greek Cav
14:21 Cyc Artie wounds Greek Cav
14:21 Cyc Artie Halflifes Greek Cav
14:22 Cyc Destroyer sunk by Greek Ironclad
14:29 Cyc Elite Cav kills redlined Greek Cav
14:31 Cyc Vet Tank kills Greek Vet Cav
14:31 Cyc Vet Tank kills Greek Vet Cav, promotes to Elite
14:34 Cyc Cruiser bombards Gordium. Halflifes Transport
14:34 Cyc Cruiser bombards Barsa, misses
14:36 Cyc 10/14 Army attacks out of Aydin. Kils 3 Ottoman Vet Rifles
14:36 Cyc Now 9/14
14:37 Cyc Elite* Sean Connery attacks out of aydin, kill Ottoman Vet LB
14:38 Cyc Joins Army
14:39 Cyc Vet AC Orange 5 kils wounded Greek Vet Cav
14:40 Cyc Vet Cav kils last Greek Ca
14:42 Cyc Vet Destroyer sinks Greek Vet Frigate
14:44 Cyc Vet Destroyer sinks Greek Vet Frigate
14:44 Cyc Vet Destroyer sinks Greek Vet Frigate
14:44 Cyc Vet Destroyer sinks Greek Vet Galleon
14:46 Cyc Rush Harbor in Aydin for 236 gold
14:48 Cyc End turn 5
14:48 Cyc 1500AD/ 3104g/
14:48 Cyc +92gpt
14:48 Cyc Flight in 7
14:48 Cyc Saving game
14:48 Cyc Ending T/C
14:49 Cyc cya Furiey. Thanks for stopping in. Gotta go.

And the turn 5 Save:

Will be doing the second group of 5 turns in an hour or so.

We have continued our alliance with the Cairde against the Perians. Persians have not been more than a nuisance to us and I haven't noticed any Persian land grabs in Bismarck's territory. We have also accepted the Cairde's offer to extend the Silk trade route.

The Greeks still have an Infantryman hiding in the woods in the London area. As soon as that unit emerges, we'll finish it off. Speaking of the Greeks, they seem to have completed their Intelligence agency. Twice they have sabotaged production in our cities. Both were factories. I believe we should build our Intelligence Agency now in order to locate and expell their Spy.

We have captured the beachhead on the Ottoman's continent. Having captured Aydin, we now control a source of Ivory and our Harbor there will be complete next turn. Our Armies will move quickly to end this war as soon as possible, ending another source of war weariness for our citizens.

We are a backwards people in the Science world, but this will soon change. As we complete the defensive units for our cities, upgrading will become complete. Soon all of our units will be modern. A more efficient Military will mean more gold for Science. When we complete the study of Flight, fighters will be build to protect our Southern coast from Bombers. From there, we seem to be looking forward to a Modern Age of Research. With the study of these machines they call Computers, our defensive capabilities will improve dramatically.

T/C in a bit.

Can't seem to get in the chat room, but I'll start up the game anyway. Will keep trying.

Running Chat Log:
T/C has begun
Loaded Save
Found that we are actually getting Wines from the Caire, not Silks. :blush:
We are just Mass Production ahead of the Cairde, but they do not have the Rubber required for

their Panzers.
Still can't get in the chat room.

Changed Constantinople to Transport
End preturn
1500AD/ 3115g/ +99gpt
Flight in 7

Constantinople Transport--> Cathedral
Molly Tank--> Intelligence Agency
Aydin Harbor--> Temple
Fionna Tank--> Tank
Richmond Marketplace--> Aqueduct

Rush Marketplace in Dana for 48 gold
Vet Destroyer sinks Ottoman Vet Frig, promotes
Battleship takes hit point from Ottoman Frigate
Destroyer sinks Ottoman Frigate
Destroyer sinks Ottoman Frigate
Destroyer sinks Ottoman Frigate
Vet Cruiser sinks Greek Destroyer off Persian Coast
2 of 4 Arties hit Greek Infantry near Dana. Halflife it.
Do Workers
12/12 Tank Army attacks Barsa
Kills Vet Gurilla and Vet Rifle. Fortifies at 5/12
13/19 Cav Army kills Spear outside Aydin. 11/19
Goes to Cover units outside of Konya
Disband Caravel in Septum
Disband Trebs in Constantinople
Upgrade 4 Pikes to Infantry @ 180 gold each
End turn 1
1505AD/ 2446g/ 106gpt
Flight in 5
+++ Chieftess has given voice to Cyc
<Cyc>: T/C started about an hour ago.
<Cyc>: Still a backwards people. :(
<Cyc>: The Persians request an audience
<Cyc>: They offer Peace. We refuse
<Cyc>: Tara Tank--> Tank
<Cyc>: Maeve Tank--> Tank
<Cyc>: Terrible news! The people of Aydin have deposed our governor and pledged allegiance to the treacherous Ottomans!
<Cyc>: Word is, the people of Aydin "admire" the so called "culture" of the Ottomans...
<Cyc>: Imagine.
<Cyc>: We lost an Infantryman.
<Cyc>: Caitlyn and Breyr riot
<Cyc>: Warwick Tank--> Hospital
<Cyc>: Dana Marketplace--> Library
<Cyc>: Nicomedia Harbor--> Library
<Cyc>: Elite Cav Kills Greek Infantry after Artie had redlined it
<Cyc>: Elite Destroyer sunk by Greek Destroyer
<Cyc>: Tank Army kills 2/3 Reg Rifle at Bursa, goes to 4/12. Fortifies
<Cyc>: End turn 2
<Cyc>: 1510AD/ 2554g/ +109gpt
<Cyc>: Flight in 4
<Cyc>: The Cairde and Persia have signed a Peace Treay
<Cyc>: Ottomans offer Peace. We refuse
<Cyc>: Tara, Constantinople and Moira riot
<Cyc>: Cruiser sinks Greek Frigate
<Cyc>: Cruiser sinks Greek Frigate
<Cyc>: 16/19 Cav Army takes back Aydin
<Cyc>: we lose the Harbor start Temple
<Cyc>: Rush Infantry in Lorna for 248 gold.
<Cyc>: The Cairde and the Ottomans have signed a Peace Treaty
<Cyc>: End turn 3
<Cyc>: 1515AD/ 2329g/ -111gpt
<Cyc>: Flight in 3
<Cyc>: Moira Destryer--> Tank
<Cyc>: Eileen Factory--> Library
<Cyc>: Maeve Tank--> Tank
<Cyc>: Lorna Inf--> Inf
<Cyc>: Falcon'sHavenHospital--> Bank
<Cyc>: 14/14 Cav Army kills Ottoman Guerilla and Greek Infantry. Goes to 4/14
<Cyc>: Vet Tank kill Reg Rifle in Bursa
<Cyc>: Vet Tank kills Conscript Rifle in Bursa. takes city. Starts Temple.
<Cyc>: Vet Destroyer sinks Greek Transport. Promotes
<Cyc>: Vet Destroyer sinks Greek Destroyer
<Cyc>: Vet Cruiser sinks Greek Transport
<Cyc>: Hurry Temple in Aydin for 118 gold
<Cyc>: End turn 4
<Cyc>: 1520AD/ 2213g/ -122gpt
<Cyc>: Flight in 2
<Cyc>: Tara Tank--> Tank
<Cyc>: Aydin Temple--> Harbor
<Cyc>: Rhiannon Army--> Army
<Cyc>: Breyr Destroyer--> Tank
<Cyc>: Siobhan Battleship--> Battleship
<Cyc>: Rhona Factory--> tank
<Cyc>: Nicomedia Library--> Bank
<Cyc>: City Red Bank--> University
<Cyc>: Sharona Aqueduct--> Cathedral
<Cyc>: Vet Destroyer sinks Greek Vet Frigate
<Cyc>: Vet Battleship sinks Persian Vet Frigate
<Cyc>: Rush Temple in Nicaea for 136 gold
<Cyc>: End turn 5
<Cyc>: 1525AD/ 1953g/ +545gpt
<Cyc>: Flight in 1
<Cyc>: Saving and uploading

Any comments on the Game Sessions last weekend? Good or bad? Any concerns about the next T/C?

Planning on Wenesdy night around 2100CDT again. Sound good?

Good - we now have 2 cities in Ottomanland. I always miss the extra movement point of Cavalrt though.

I'm not sure where the greek frigates are going, could the cruisers in Ergili go north to Dhyrrachim to try and nab them next turn? Talking of ergilli, currently 2gpt and 1 spt, as it can't grow you can make 2 more citizens specialists which will lose 1 gpt from the city but then make all the specialists taxmen or engineers to give you 7 gpt or 7 spt (Library in 11) or somewhere between the 2 if you have a combination.

I notice our little brother has a Cavalry fortified in our lands. He may be our brother but he is a known liar and a cheat. I would not trust him not to sneak attack one of our undefended cities. At least he can't get that far without a ROP.

Have fun on Wednesday, probably too late for me though.

Do you run CivAssist 2 or MapStat, cyc? I'm concerned about all the riots that keep cropping up. Either of those programs can warn you of most impending riots, allowing you to keep them from rioting. Otherwise, build more offensive units than defensive is my advice along with plenty of artillery.

I'm not sure where the greek frigates are going, could the cruisers in Ergili go north to Dhyrrachim to try and nab them next turn? Talking of ergilli, currently 2gpt and 1 spt, as it can't grow you can make 2 more citizens specialists which will lose 1 gpt from the city but then make all the specialists taxmen or engineers to give you 7 gpt or 7 spt (Library in 11) or somewhere between the 2 if you have a combination.
Yes, the Ottoman Channel has been quite busy. The Ottoman, Persians, and Greeks have all been sending ships through and around for a while. Our Cruisers and Destroyers have also been busy sinking as many as possible. I wish we had a Harbor in Dhyrrachim. I will take a look at Ergilli's city screen and make the adjustments.

I notice our little brother has a Cavalry fortified in our lands. He may be our brother but he is a known liar and a cheat. I would not trust him not to sneak attack one of our undefended cities. At least he can't get that far without a ROP.
I've been keeping a close eye on our brother. There are no cities, as you say, within striking distance, that he could actually capture in one foul swoop.

Do you run CivAssist 2 or MapStat, cyc? I'm concerned about all the riots that keep cropping up. Either of those programs can warn you of most impending riots, allowing you to keep them from rioting. Otherwise, build more offensive units than defensive is my advice along with plenty of artillery.
No, I never use CA2 when I play. Too much micro-managment takes the fun out of the game for me. As I've said before, I probably use more entertainers than most players. Cities rioting are a normal refreshing of the Tree of Liberty by our patriots and indicate where work is needed.

We are building tanks now. We are also still building the slower Artillery at a lesser rate. Airports and Fighters are next on the agenda.