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...And my senses were right. A runoff Election ;).

Once again - Go Donsig! :goodjob:

donsig for Science Leader!

3-0 so far. It's a runaway! :lol:

But, what's this! Striders making a comeback!

Originally posted by Shaitan
3-0 so far. It's a runaway! :lol:

tied 3-3 right now..... I caught up ;)

Well, despite the fact I'd like to SHARE the consecutive leader term record I voted Strider.

GO STRIDER!

Originally posted by Falcon02
Well, despite the fact I'd like to SHARE the consecutive leader term record I voted Strider.

GO STRIDER!

Thanks for the support General Falcon :)

I say Strider. I am closer to him than donsig.

Go strider! 5-6
one more term!
*mods- note the lack of mudslinging.*

In mod voice: noted ;)

In Trade Leader voice:

They're neck and neck! :D

donsig's pulling ahead again!

Go donsig!

c'mon people that ARENT from the justice deptartment!
come and vote.
everyoe who voted for me, vote strider. Same thing for people who voted for strider!
go strider!

Let's go Srider. Unfortunetly, we can't use the Force to cheat the polls. We might get caught. Then again, we could convince the mods that we are being good.

Originally posted by Zarn
Let's go Srider. Unfortunetly, we can't use the Force to cheat the polls. We might get caught. Then again, we could convince the mods that we are being good.

I don't wanna know :) Thanks for the support Zarn.

The hand waving through the air and telling people what to do.. You must never had seen Star Wars.

weeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwww (lightsaber noise). May the force be with you, strider
be with you, the force may be

Originally posted by Zarn
The hand waving through the air and telling people what to do.. You must never had seen Star Wars.

Nope... I've seen all of them.... Just not a very big fan.

Go Strider... Go Donsig! I'm so conflicted!

Originally posted by Plexus
Go Strider... Go Donsig! I'm so conflicted!

You have to wonder who he did vote for :)

A vote for Strider is a Vote for experiance!!!

I wish that you will vote for me as I know what I'm doing. I have been in science sense Demogame 1 Term 1 and throughout my career I have also been trade deputy and Vice President.

Originally posted by Zarn
The hand waving through the air and telling people what to do.. You must never had seen Star Wars.
This is not the candidate you are looking for.

This is not the candidate we are looking for.

Move along.

Move along.

:lol:

Originally posted by Shaitan

This is not the candidate you are looking for.

This is not the candidate we are looking for.

Move along.

Move along.

:lol:

:confused: :confused: I don't get it :confused: :confused:

Originally posted by Shaitan

This is not the candidate you are looking for.

This is not the candidate we are looking for.

Move along.

Move along.

:lol:

You will vote for Strider.

We will vote for Strider.

You will give me your beer and chips

No!!!

Originally posted by Zarn


You will vote for Strider.

We will vote for Strider.

You will give me your beer and chips

No!!!

Ok... NM I think I got it :)

Originally posted by Strider


:confused: :confused: I don't get it :confused: :confused:
Obi Wan, Luke and the droids sneak into the port on Tatooine. Storm troopers are looking for the droids. Ben "fuzzles" the storm troopers with a Jedi mind trick.

Same thing here except with candidate instead of droids.

Strider for Deputy Science Leader!

Originally posted by Shaitan
Strider for Deputy Science Leader!

NO!!!! WE WONT DONSIG FOR DEPUTY SCIENCE LEADER!!!!!!

oh no you dont...
if you want to endorse a deputy, go here
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33218
this is a threadjacking, please place your attention here...
Stuck for Domestic Deputy

Originally posted by Strider


NO!!!! WE WONT DONSIG FOR DEPUTY SCIENCE LEADER!!!!!!

I still don't know what I'll do if donsig is my deputy..... That'll be strange wouldn't it :)

Strider, you're back just one vote now, so quickly vote for yourself.


everyone remember, its not like one vote makes a difference :lol:

Quoting Strider...
I don't get it
________________________

If Donsig doesn't win here, I'm going to have this quote made into bumperstickers...

J/K Strider

Folks,

Strider is a good person and dedicated player.

However, a failure to elect donsig here is just foolish.

donsig has demonstrated that he has knowledge to match any of us. He works tirelessly on issues effecting the game, and if those of you opposed to him would look past the reality that he isn't afraid to confront issues directly, you might just find a friendly and helpful person who has contributed as much to this game as anyone outside of the great Shaitan.

donsig isn't going to out post count some of you, but his posts have quality, are focused on victory for our nation, and no one can make a credible argument that every action he has taken has not been in the best interests of the entire citizenry.

Again, I do not vote against Strider...I choose to vote for donsig.

Originally posted by Bill_in_PDX
...and if those of you opposed to him would look past the reality that he isn't afraid to confront issues directly, you might just find a friendly and helpful person who has contributed as much to this game as anyone...
Quite true. Donsig and I had some legendary battles before we figured each other out. Since then he has been a vital contributor to much of what I've done for the game.

I would support donsig for any postition as I know his dedication to what he sets out for himself. I particularly favor him for Science as his analytic ability is a key plus for this job.

Does anyone want to buy my vote $-) ?
Seems pretty close to me.... Maybe 1 vote will decide it :-P

donsig 11 52.38%
Strider 10 47.62%
Abstain 0 0%

Total: 21 votes 100%

Looks like I'm going to have to do some campaigning when I get back from school ;).

dis, is there anything you won't try to stir up a nest of hornets? You are Fanatika's own coyote-trickster.

On-topic, for a change, I'm supporting donsig. I think Strider has done good work in the past but feel that for where we are right now donsig has a better grasp of the challenges we face and the solutions we must find.

i agree totally with bill_in_pdx. although i have nothing against strider personally, i feel donsig is the right man for this job. what some here have called complaining, i have seen only as the defense of the rights of the people. maybe we need more complaining in our government.

Hmmm...it would appear to this outside observer that many people are holding back their votes until the last minute

Originally posted by Shaitan

Obi Wan, Luke and the droids sneak into the port on Tatooine. Storm troopers are looking for the droids. Ben "fuzzles" the storm troopers with a Jedi mind trick.

Same thing here except with candidate instead of droids.

:lol: I thought EVERYONE knew about the Jedi Mind Trick!

Go Strider!!!

P. S., I just tied it up. :)

Will this poll ever end? :lol:

14-14....wow! Go Strider!! ...maybe a joint leadership would suffice? ...just wanted to throw the apple of discord into the batch! hehehehe

Ehecatl Atzin

I will start biting my nails if this doesn't end soon.

Strider and Donsig are tied again, were is this world comming to :crazyeye:.

7 people in this forum....is everyone constantly checking this poll?? ....I am!! hahaha (at the university right now)

Ehecatl Atzin

Originally posted by CivGeneral
Strider and Donsig are tied again, were is this world comming to :crazyeye:.

................ Who knows :)

Also I am happy to say that Donsig and I signed a peace agreement (well.... in away.....)

i just voted Donsig. that makes it 15/14 for donsig as of now.

Originally posted by ipris
i just voted Donsig. that makes it 15/14 for donsig as of now.


Why'd you do that??

Seesh... Now I have to campaign foor votes again.

Still another dead-heat. Looks like trade and FA will have to pick up the slack. ;) For the next turn chat aleast.

We're all for following the spirit of the law. Perhaps both Strider and donsig would agree to co-lead the science department. I know that two people in the CivII demogame did that in the first term.

Good point, Octavian. This is as even a contest (twice!) as we've ever seen. Strider and donsig, if this results in a tie would you be willing to be co-leaders?

Originally posted by Shaitan
Good point, Octavian. This is as even a contest (twice!) as we've ever seen. Strider and donsig, if this results in a tie would you be willing to be co-leaders?

In the interests of Fanatika and the FNSD Strider and I have already discussed ways we can work together. We have a tentative agreement that Strider will post science discussion threads and I will post science polls. We're also looking forward to using the services of Yes, No & Abstain (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31775) for our polling needs.

We agreed that this division would work no matter which of us was leader and which was deputy. The official leader was to open the term 2 FNSD thread and post the actual turn chat instructions. If we're co-leaders we'll have to work this part out.

Good job donsig & Strider. I am sure it will work out however the poll ends up. Nice to see you putting the needs of the nation ahead of electoral politics.

I guess it mirrors the science polls themselves. Everyone wants the best of both worlds!

Hey, if they're co-leaders, would that make stuck a deputy? ;)

7 hours left and dead even. Yowser.

Hey! I thought of the co-leader thing first!!

Ehecatl Atzin

well we could have another run off poll ;)

Have the people that voted for Saam on the last poll voted on this one yet?

Ehecatl Atzin

Runoffs and spinoff polls always have much lower participation. The people who run down the polls and vote in every election won't be here. It's only the folks who are interested in Science.

That's a shame :(

Ehecatl Atzin

i support the idea of making stuck science lt. in the avent of a co-ministership. that would just make his day.

i support the idea of making stuck science lt. in the event of a co-ministership. that would just make his day.

stuck for deputy!
unless i cant be two deputies...
wait- i think i can!
May the Power of Domestic and Science clash within me!
Viva mia ego!

Stuck could be be a "turn chat rep dep". :)

Stuck_as_a_mac
TC name: ThePenguin
Job: Dual Dep Chat Rep Egomaniac

29 Minutes to go. Still tied.

Originally posted by Shaitan
29 Minutes to go. Still tied.

What do we do after that?
:confused:

@eyrei - Strider and donsig are ammenable to being co-leaders. We could try that.

Originally posted by Shaitan
@eyrei - Strider and donsig are ammenable to being co-leaders. We could try that.

Polls closed and were tied 15-15. Are citizens can not decide.... Donsig or Strider? Strider or Donsig?

As donsig stated we have already made plans and I will be willing to do a joint-leadership.

Also I have a few questions:

1) Will we have two deputies? Or just one?

2) Can we each pick are own chat rep?(The constition says we can have multiply chat reps)

oy vey!
joint chairmanship!
stuck for deputy (since there isnt one!)

Originally posted by Shaitan
@eyrei - Strider and donsig are ammenable to being co-leaders. We could try that.

I think that is a bad idea, as the game is rather disorganized at the moment anyway. However, I don't have a better suggestion, so I guess we should give it a try.

ooohh! co-leadership! now this is interesting!

Ehecatl Atzin

These are our choices:

1) Run another run-off electioon
2) Post a Citizen Poll asking wether we should allow joint leadership.

If the co-leadership is acceptable then I propose that Strider start the term 2 FNSD thread as he has the most science experience. :)

Darn I came too late to vote here!

Originally posted by chiefpaco
Darn I came too late to vote here!

LOL

Donsig: I will post the FNSD thread(or should we name it something else this term) and you can make the second post with anything you want to include.

Wait for the poll result...

As this affects the gameplay as a whole and there are no established rules to handle it I am going to make a temporary ruling.

donsig and Strider are co-leaders. There is no deputy as no candidate qualified with the second highest vote total. donsig and Strider should divide their duties between them (as they seem to have already done). If the situation becomes untenable due to disagreement, contention, or confusion, a neutral moderator will be enlisted to flip a coin and decide who is Leader and who is Deputy.

The Judiciary should immediately begin formulating rules to handle a "double tie" situation for official positions. Those rules will retro-affect this election if we are still in a co-manager situation when they become effective.

hear hear!
'bout time someboddy put their foot down on this.
so strider and donsig, congrats, and try not to kill eachother.
(seriously, i mean it)

shaitan, who flips the coin? neutral, or the moderator?

It would be the Duke of Marlbrough who flips the coin.

Hey, no editing the vote after it closes! ;)

posted in the judiciary thread:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=519277#post519277

so if one of both would resign this election on the promise of being appointed for deputy, would that help?
i seem to remember donsig wanted strider to start the thread, so i recommend strider as the leader and donsig as deputy?
we could nevertheless try to find a law for this situation during the term, but i think we urgently need a working science department NOW. till we have a law thru, it would take about 3-5 days. We already lost one day and no discussion was brought up.

Not to mention there's a vital mysticsm w/9g tech trade for the Alphabet!

Sense Donsig said I should post the science thread(This is not in support of Me as leader and donsig as deputy just to get it up and running)

Chief Justice Opinion

I have posted my opinion on this matter in the Judicial thread. Given that a moderator has taken action to resolve the matter, it would appear that the Judiciary's opinion is not relevant.

Originally posted by Bill_in_PDX
Chief Justice Opinion

I have posted my opinion on this matter in the Judicial thread. Given that a moderator has taken action to resolve the matter, it would appear that the Judiciary's opinion is not relevant.
Not at all, Bill. We were just several days into the term with no direction. The moderator ruling is a stopgap so we would not be without somebody in office and Strider and donsig could act as they had been without fear of anybody accusing them of breaking the law by running the Sci Dept.

2 of the 3 justices have interpreted that our existing laws indicate another runoff election. The second runoff poll is here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33451). The temporary mod ruling will remain in effect until this poll is complete (or longer if there's another tie).