View Full Version : Napoleonica: Artillery pack part 1
imperator1961 Aug 17, 2009, 06:58 PM Here my new pack of Napoleonic Artillery units.
From left to right:
Austrian Foot Artillery, Austrian Horse Artillery, British Foot Artillery, British Horse Artillery, British Rocket Team, French Foot Artillery, French Horse Artillery, Russian Foot Artillery, Russian Horse Artillery.
http://www.divshare.com/img/8216323-d44http://www.divshare.com/img/8216382-0e5http://www.divshare.com/img/8216387-c65http://www.divshare.com/img/8216392-486
http://www.divshare.com/img/8216395-ac5http://www.divshare.com/img/8216398-7dbhttp://www.divshare.com/img/8216403-ec4http://www.divshare.com/img/8216406-533
http://www.divshare.com/img/8216464-271
And the previews:
http://www.divshare.com/img/8216336-bd8http://www.divshare.com/img/8216386-452http://www.divshare.com/img/8216389-29chttp://www.divshare.com/img/8216394-4c6http://www.divshare.com/img/8216396-f10http://www.divshare.com/img/8216399-d9e
http://www.divshare.com/img/8216404-0bdhttp://www.divshare.com/img/8216463-1d1http://www.divshare.com/img/8216484-7f7
Download:
Part 1 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=13050)
Part 2 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=13051)
Part 3 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=13052)
PredatorFett Aug 17, 2009, 07:14 PM This is awesome. Congrats man.
Usteros Aug 17, 2009, 09:57 PM GREAT!!! Thank You Imperator!!! :)
Steph Aug 18, 2009, 12:57 AM They look really great. I know what I will do this afternoon. Adding these little guys in the Napoleonic scenario :).
Good job, now you just have to add the few missing countries ;).
TopGun Aug 18, 2009, 05:00 AM Very nice - and as usual: historically accurate! :goodjob:
Even the brown uniforms for the Austrians...
You'll do some Prussians as well I presume? ;)
imperator1961 Aug 18, 2009, 05:30 AM Very nice - and as usual: historically accurate! :goodjob:
Even the brown uniforms for the Austrians...
You'll do some Prussians as well I presume? ;)
Yes, the in the next pack I will add Prussians, Bavarians, Italians and the others civs to match the same civs of the Napoleonic pack made by Sandris.:)
Ares de Borg Aug 18, 2009, 05:40 AM Looking very good, I hope they aren't too large in game. Will there be a "generic" one as well?
imperator1961 Aug 18, 2009, 05:50 AM Looking very good, I hope they aren't too large in game. Will there be a "generic" one as well?
Good idea, in the next pack I will add a "generic" artillery unit (foot and horse of course...);)
General 666 Aug 18, 2009, 06:34 AM BOOOOMM ! BAAANNGG !
I will give them a lot to FIRE !:)
:goodjob:
Steph Aug 18, 2009, 06:39 AM Yes, the in the next pack I will add Prussians, Bavarians, Italians and the others civs to match the same civs of the Napoleonic pack made by Sandris.:)
And Saxons, Dutch, Danes, Swedish, Polish, Portuguese, Spanish, Neapolitans, Ottomans..
12 countries x 2 types (foot - horse) = 24 units
A small pack :D
imperator1961 Aug 18, 2009, 08:24 AM And Saxons, Dutch, Danes, Swedish, Polish, Portuguese, Spanish, Neapolitans, Ottomans..
12 countries x 2 types (foot - horse) = 24 units
A small pack :D
Ehm ehm perhaps two packs....;)
Grandraem Aug 18, 2009, 08:52 AM Wow, so much detail and such complex units. Very good work on these!:goodjob::)
Ozymandias Aug 18, 2009, 09:34 AM ... nd the crowd goes wild! :clap: [party] :dance:
Best ;) ,
oz
Steph Aug 18, 2009, 09:52 AM There may be a small problem with your units. They expand quite far outside of their own tile.
I'll test in game ASAP, but I'm afraid they will overlap a lot adjacent units.
Also, I like the idea of the pedia icons for Austria, with the foot artillery on foot, and the horse artillery, well on horse.
Why didn't you use the same for the other nations?
Sandris Aug 18, 2009, 09:57 AM That`s just great !!! Andrea, you really are the Imperator in unit making ! :goodjob:
Virote_Considon Aug 18, 2009, 10:56 AM Very nice! I always love your cannons! :D
Steph Aug 18, 2009, 11:12 AM I was right to be wary...
Although your units look very nice individually, they are not usable in game, as they are really too big.
http://stephane.f.david.free.fr/CivMod/Images/ArtilleryScreen.jpg
Here, the artillery and the grenadier / cavalry at the bottom are overlapping.
http://stephane.f.david.free.fr/CivMod/Images/ArtilleryScreen2.jpg
And here, you have the impression the city of Brussels is occupied by the artillery, when it is in fact on the NW.
Actually, one of your artillery unit is spread on 4 tiles : the one where it should be, the one on the right, and the one behind!
Before it's usable in game, I think you should :
- Keep the run as it is for horse artillery, there it's not a problem if it overlaps a little.
- Change the other animation, to remove the horses and the cart, keep only the gun and the crew. For foot artillery, completly forget the horse, just have the guys push the gun a little. Change a bit the offset so they guy behind the gun is more centered (and the gun is not exactly in the center, but a bit forward).
Or alternativly, reduce a bit the scale of the whole unit until it fits better in a tile, but then it won't fit in the tile.
I'm sorry for the cold shower to your enthusiasm, but really it's difficult to use your unit as it is. It's really too big.
That's partly why I suggest that you send me some sample to review before you commit too much time to several units.
I think when making a new type of animation, artists should always make one of them fully, test it in game, and after it has been thoroughly tested, start making more units.
Don't rush things.
Here is a comparison of 3 of your artillery units.
http://stephane.f.david.free.fr/CivMod/Images/ArtilleryScreen3.jpg
The 18c French fits in a tile. However, it's a bit small, and the animation are not perfect ("jump" with the run).
The Venetian has a better scale, while still fitting in the tile. And the animation is better. However, it remains in the tile when facing S, not when facing N!
The French Napoleonic is way too big.
I think the best would be to work on the Venetian basis for the scale, forget about horse artillery, it's simply not possible at civ scale (or just use them in the run, although it means "jumping" from ana animation to another). Use only two crew member. Rework a bit the centering to be sure it fits better in the tile from any direction.
D.Durand Aug 18, 2009, 12:34 PM Or just make the horses and car disapears in smoke or butterflies when the gun prepare to fire or fortifie ?
The fact they are big when they move is not a problem.
Steph Aug 18, 2009, 12:54 PM When they move it's OK, it's the other animation (default, attack, fortify, death) that need a rework.
D.Durand Aug 18, 2009, 06:38 PM Awww :(
They are so good.
Conan2002 Aug 19, 2009, 09:06 AM Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Thank You Imperator!!!
The Guardian Aug 25, 2009, 12:57 PM Nice work imperator but I have to agree with steph. These are unusable in game play. They would have to be scaled down quite a bit and I am afraid they would loose there appeal when scaled down. Try scaling one down so we can test it. Maybe you could eliminate the horse and use them in only the run animation.
Fredeye Aug 30, 2009, 10:58 AM These are awesome...just too much.
I wouldn’t scale them down; just minimize the amount characters in the Fortify and Default views. In miniature gaming, the Horse Artillery has 2 figures (officer, gunner) and the Foot Artillery has 3 figures (officer, gunner and loader). As cool as the other stuff look, they are unnecessary.
Again, great job!
Ozymandias Oct 31, 2009, 11:33 AM :bump: :bump: :bump:
Imperator, where art thou?
-I'm certain you could get any number of folks to help whittle these extraordinary units down to size ... ?
Pesteringly Yours,
Oz
Steph Oct 31, 2009, 11:47 AM Oz, I was about to ask for an update, as I'm busy on the map for the scenario
imperator1961 Nov 01, 2009, 01:28 AM Oz, I was about to ask for an update, as I'm busy on the map for the scenario
I'm working to remade the old units and add some new. At this moment I have completed these units:
French Horse and Foot, Russian Horse and Foot, Italian Horse and Foot, Bavarian Horse and Foot, British Horse and Foot, Spanish Horse and Foot, Ottoman Foot, Prussian Horse and Foot. I need to complete Ottoman Horse Artillery and British Rocket Team, made PediaIcons, and next week I will upload these new units.:)
Steph Nov 01, 2009, 01:15 AM Cool! I'll try to finish the map before that.
Fredeye Nov 01, 2009, 10:05 AM Excellent! It's about time this era got some attention. Thanks!
...that is, compared to WWI, WWII, Ancient etc.
Steph Nov 01, 2009, 10:51 AM I suppose with Sandris units, we have more Napoleonic units than WWII (Wyrmshadow's units don't count, as they would always win).
Ozymandias Nov 01, 2009, 11:15 AM I'm working to remade the old units and add some new. At this moment I have completed these units:
French Horse and Foot, Russian Horse and Foot, Italian Horse and Foot, Bavarian Horse and Foot, British Horse and Foot, Spanish Horse and Foot, Ottoman Foot, Prussian Horse and Foot. I need to complete Ottoman Horse Artillery and British Rocket Team, made PediaIcons, and next week I will upload these new units.:)
Bravo! :clap:
Best,
Oz
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