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civ editor11
Aug 29, 2009, 11:37 AM
World Wonders:
Holonet - (Internet)
Star Forge - reguires Dark side religion, Gives you plus 25% production speed of dark side units
Galactic Senate - (United Nations)
Empress Tetas jewels - ?? What should this do
The tract - ?? What should this do
Holoscan Database - ?? What should this do
Dawn Pyramid of Aargau - (The Pyramids)
Celebratus archive - (Great Library)
Forbidden Gardens of Nuswatta - (Forbidden Palace
Xims Statue - (colossus)

National Wonders:

- Holographic Monument(Late)
*No Unhappyness in City

- Intergalactic Zoo(Late)
*+ 3 health
*+ 2 happiness

- Military Headquarters(Late)
*+2 XP in all cities

- Military University(Middle)
*Built by Great General
*+25% Military Production in City
*+2XP in this city

- Research Guild(Middle)
*Built by Great Scientist
*+50% Research in City
* no maintence cost in city

- School of the Arts (Middle)
*Built by Great Artist
*+50% Culture in City
* no maintence cost in city

- Espionage Guild (Middle)
*Built by Great Spy
*+50% Espionage in City
* no maintence cost in city

- Engineering University (Middle)
*Built By Great Engineer
*+35% Production in City

- Ancient Ruins (Early)
*+ 10% culture in all cities

- Orbital Shipyard (Middle)
*Only 10 can be built in the galaxy
allows you to build bigger and better ships

Anyone who has ideas please tell me. We need some more wonders.

Yared
Aug 29, 2009, 12:24 PM
Death Star.

TC01
Aug 29, 2009, 12:44 PM
Death Star.

Death Star is a project that will create a unit, not a wonder. (And presumably Death Star II and Death Star Prototypes will be projects as well).

Yared
Aug 29, 2009, 12:49 PM
Star Forge?

T_KCommanderbly
Aug 29, 2009, 02:52 PM
Galactic Senate (like the UN in civ)

Imperial Palace

Empress Tetas crown of jewels - http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Empress_Teta%27s_Crown_Jewels

The Tract http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Tract

The Oracle http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Oracle_(Pelgrin)

HaloScan Database (basically like the great library) http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/HoloScan_Database

Jawa'sRevenge
Sep 01, 2009, 04:08 PM
Death Star is a project that will create a unit, not a wonder. (And presumably Death Star II and Death Star Prototypes will be projects as well).

The Maw Installation? (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Maw_Installation)

Kissamies
Sep 01, 2009, 07:28 PM
It starts to look like the Architects created the Maw cluster just to imprison something inside. I'm guessing, but it seems like a pretty good guess.

Great Library-like wonder makes me think of Obroa-skai http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Obroa-skai

Monument Plaza as a national wonder? Culture. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Monument_Plaza

This might give some ideas: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Buildings

civ editor11
Sep 01, 2009, 08:19 PM
The one i have as the great library replacement is the one on Obroa-skai
I'm using the ones from here http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Twenty_Wonders_of_the_Galaxy

Kissamies
Sep 02, 2009, 10:41 AM
Ah the Celebratus Archive then, good. Some of those seem to be rather blatant SW universe versions of real world wonders. Statue of Xim is clearly the Colossus, for example. Not hard to convert. Should concentrate on things people are familiar with.

Something of Alderaan might be nice. Crevasse City, Terrarium City, or the Aldera University perhaps.

Not exactly wonders, but if going to the dark side, light side religion concept, the shrines could be Valley of the Dark Lords and Jedi Temple respectively.

Politus
Sep 02, 2009, 11:19 PM
The Tract could either be a conversion of the Mausoleum of Mausollos (+50% golden age length) OR it could provide an entirely new bonus, such as +4 culture/influence, +50% culture/influence, and +4 happiness with stone or marble. This would of course necessitates stone or marble as a resource. :p Personally, I think it should have a new bonus.

xXDonovanXx
Sep 27, 2009, 05:57 PM
how a bowt thez
A [JEDI ARCHIVES] {gives you Jedi religion}
B [Death star] {gives you a BIG Beam[AKA nuke]}
C [The jedi council] {gives you a order to your civ [AKA no anarchy]
D [the great academy] {all JEDI [or sith] units get 2 free force powers [if bulit in dat city]}
E [And the clones] {if bulit you get 10 [or 100] Free units}
Will i hope i helpt so take Dez and put in mod plez :)

HolmstN
Sep 27, 2009, 10:56 PM
Howdy! Really interesting in following this, I'm a Star Wars fan all over and would love to contribute. The Atlas, Jedi v. Sith Guide to the Force, and three giant books of all sorts of cool reference stuff underneath my bed at the moment.

So, first off, is there any way to actually help along development? I've got several types of skills related to game development (small bit of graphical design, mainly 2D, and coding experience).

Second, related to the topic at hand...


Centerpoint Station would be a good wonder.
Jedi Academy at Ossus?
Galactic Senate
Force Nexus (might be an interesting sort of 'spawn' for religion instead of an actual wonder though)
Valley of the Jedi
Saarlaac
Bounty Hunter's Guild (perhaps, rather, a civ...)


I'll see what else I can dig up later.

civ editor11
Sep 28, 2009, 06:35 AM
You can sign up in the what are we doing now thread. If you know XML oor could learn it we have plenty of work for you.
Centerpoint station is going to be used as a superweapon so we can't use it as a wonder.

Jawa'sRevenge
Oct 01, 2009, 03:51 PM
* Jedi Academy at Ossus? Or the library of Ossus
* Galactic Senate Republic/New Republic Only
* Force Nexus (might be an interesting sort of 'spawn' for religion instead of an actual wonder though) Hmm like what? A connectration of force energy maybe?
* Valley of the Jedi Not really something you would want to build is it
* Saarlaac No its an animal
* Bounty Hunter's Guild (perhaps, rather, a civ...) Maybe Hutt or criminal specific

My comments are in bold

Kissamies
Oct 02, 2009, 08:32 AM
Those give me an idea though. How about unique terrain features like in Alpha Centauri with those Progenitor structures? Even Centerpoint station could be one of those, though you'd need to have a certain tech and then complete some quest to activate it.

Oh and wonder or perhaps a project:
Bothan Spynet: Espionage bonus, naturally.

Jawa'sRevenge
Oct 02, 2009, 08:50 PM
Those give me an idea though. How about unique terrain features like in Alpha Centauri with those Progenitor structures? Even Centerpoint station could be one of those, though you'd need to have a certain tech and then complete some quest to activate it.

Yes Yes Yes being back SMAC!

But what would build it, we don't have space workers do we? Do we even have workers?

Chusquero
Oct 04, 2009, 03:10 PM
I got an idea...

I don't remember very well, but in the PC game "KOTOR 2" (Knights of the old republic 2), at the end, the player go to a old "caribean like" planet and then it transport you to an huge star forge... that theorically builds fleets very quickly.

I think that I am mixing kotor1 and kotor2, anyway that's is an idea good enough to give it a chance: STAR FORGE, if you build a ship there, it gives you another for free.

civ editor11
Oct 04, 2009, 03:45 PM
We were planning on doing that for a superweapon but it might work as a wonder/project.

TC01
Oct 04, 2009, 05:16 PM
We were planning on doing that for a superweapon but it might work as a wonder/project.

No... we weren't planning on doing it as a superweapon.

I thought we had agreed to make it a pre-placed improvement that, when you built a starbase next to (and thus extend your culture around it) it begins to randomly generate units?

But having it as a wonder or project could work as well.

civ editor11
Oct 04, 2009, 08:00 PM
Sorry I had misunderstood on that subject.

T_KCommanderbly
Oct 04, 2009, 08:51 PM
Here are some national wonder ideas:

- Capital building (early)
*Palace Stats

- Holographic Monument(Late)
*No Unhappyness in City

- Intergalactic Zoo(Late)
*No Unhealthyness in City

- Military Headquarters(Late)
*+2 XP in all cities

- Military University(Middle)
*Built by Great General
*+25% Military Production in City

- Research Guild(Middle)
*Built by Great Scientist
*+50% Research in City

- School of the Arts (Middle)
*Built by Great Artist
*+50% Culture in City

- Espionage Guild (Middle)
*Built by Great Spy
*100% Espionage in City

- Engineering University (Middle)
*Built By Great Engineer
*+35% Production in City

- Ancient Ruins (Middle to Late)
*No Maintance in City

- Orbital Shipyard (Early to Middle)
*+1 hammer from both Space types in that city

and sorry ive been gone for awile, lots of school work, but im making a star destroyer and doing some XML promotion/unit stuff

Chusquero
Oct 05, 2009, 12:58 AM
hmmm So, u'l do as the space station in "Final frontier" mod, isn't it? It repairs your fleets, generate missiles ramdomly and spands the cultures.

Sounds good, but I think is just good... What about double moviment points cost in the 2 tiles around it? A huge construction like that must have mini-bots, space rubish and lots of tons of things standing over there. Should be difficult to go in, but, in exchange, some of those minibots may be mechanics that heal fleets 1 tile around.

Chusquero
Oct 05, 2009, 01:03 AM
Pod racers?? This obviously goes to buildings, but may be something like "Galaxy leage pods, BOTB" (Best Of The Best) haha. Unhapisness to other cities, +gold,+happy_face in this settlement... +investigation or may have positive effect on others civs.

Jawa'sRevenge
Oct 05, 2009, 07:09 AM
- Orbital Shipyard (Early to Middle)
*+1 hammer from both Space types in that city

I say you can build 4-5 orbital shipyards and they are the only way you can build large ships, that would make planets with ships yards of HUGE strategic importance. It is also more realistic.

civ editor11
Oct 05, 2009, 04:47 PM
I've added in the national wonders with a few changes to them. Good gob T_KCommanderbly

T_KCommanderbly
Oct 05, 2009, 06:31 PM
@Chusquero i think a Podrace Arena will be the the hutt's special building replacing arena.. but we could expand on making a famous pod race arena too

And i forgot the merchant's national wonder

Grand Market (Middle)
- Built by Great Merchant
- +50% more cash in the city

Wonders Idea:
Mos Espa Grand Arena (Middle) http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mos_Espa_Grand_Arena
- Req. Arena
- +50% Golden Age Length
- +6 Great Artist Chance

Chusquero
Oct 06, 2009, 06:59 AM
Nice. I was just taking a tour... I was tired of Fall Further (FFH mod) and, even if I am not a star wars fanatic, this mod will be really good.

Count with me as tester, when needed.

civ editor11
Oct 06, 2009, 04:34 PM
You should sign up in the what we're doing now thread. You can test the downloads i post up every few weeks.