I've added a 300 turns timeline, spanning from 3000BC to 600AD:



turn RFC1182 GW RFGW
0 -3000 -600 -3000
1 -2970 -595 -2970
2 -2940 -590 -2940
3 -2910 -585 -2910
4 -2880 -580 -2880
5 -2850 -575 -2850
6 -2820 -570 -2820
7 -2790 -565 -2790
8 -2760 -560 -2760
9 -2730 -555 -2730
10 -2700 -550 -2700
11 -2670 -545 -2670
12 -2640 -540 -2640
13 -2610 -535 -2610
14 -2580 -530 -2580
15 -2550 -525 -2550
16 -2520 -520 -2520
17 -2490 -515 -2490
18 -2460 -510 -2460
19 -2430 -505 -2430
20 -2400 -500 -2400
21 -2370 -495 -2370
22 -2340 -490 -2340
23 -2310 -485 -2310
24 -2280 -480 -2280
25 -2250 -475 -2250
26 -2220 -470 -2220
27 -2190 -465 -2190
28 -2160 -460 -2160
29 -2130 -455 -2130
30 -2100 -450 -2100
31 -2075 -445 -2070
32 -2050 -440 -2040
33 -2025 -435 -2010
34 -2000 -430 -1980
35 -1975 -425 -1950
36 -1950 -420 -1920
37 -1925 -415 -1890
38 -1900 -410 -1860
39 -1875 -405 -1830
40 -1850 -400 -1800
41 -1825 -395 -1770
42 -1800 -390 -1755
43 -1775 -385 -1740
44 -1750 -380 -1725
45 -1725 -375 -1710
46 -1700 -370 -1695
47 -1675 -365 -1680
48 -1650 -360 -1665
49 -1625 -355 -1650
50 -1600 -350 -1635
51 -1575 -345 -1620
52 -1550 -340 -1605
53 -1525 -335 -1590
54 -1500 -330 -1575
55 -1475 -325 -1560
56 -1450 -320 -1545
57 -1425 -315 -1530
58 -1400 -310 -1515
59 -1375 -305 -1500
60 -1350 -300 -1485
61 -1325 -295 -1470
62 -1300 -290 -1455
63 -1275 -285 -1440
64 -1250 -280 -1425
65 -1225 -275 -1410
66 -1200 -270 -1395
67 -1175 -265 -1380
68 -1150 -260 -1365
69 -1125 -255 -1350
70 -1100 -250 -1335
71 -1075 -245 -1320
72 -1050 -240 -1305
73 -1025 -235 -1290
74 -1000 -230 -1275
75 -985 -225 -1260
76 -970 -220 -1245
77 -955 -215 -1230
78 -940 -210 -1215
79 -925 -205 -1200
80 -910 -200 -1185
81 -895 -195 -1170
82 -880 -190 -1155
83 -865 -185 -1140
84 -850 -180 -1125
85 -835 -175 -1110
86 -820 -170 -1095
87 -805 -165 -1080
88 -790 -160 -1065
89 -775 -155 -1050
90 -760 -150 -1035
91 -745 -145 -1020
92 -730 -140 -1005
93 -715 -135 -990
94 -700 -130 -975
95 -685 -125 -960
96 -670 -120 -945
97 -655 -115 -930
98 -640 -110 -915
99 -625 -105 -900
100 -610 -100 -890
101 -595 -95 -880
102 -580 -90 -870
103 -565 -85 -860
104 -550 -80 -850
105 -535 -75 -840
106 -520 -70 -830
107 -505 -65 -820
108 -490 -60 -810
109 -475 -55 -800
110 -460 -50 -790
111 -445 -45 -780
112 -430 -40 -770
113 -415 -35 -760
114 -400 -30 -750
115 -385 -25 -740
116 -370 -20 -730
117 -355 -15 -720
118 -340 -10 -710
119 -325 -5 -700
120 -310 0 -690
121 -295 10 -680
122 -280 20 -670
123 -265 30 -660
124 -250 40 -650
125 -235 50 -640
126 -220 60 -630
127 -205 70 -620
128 -190 80 -610
129 -175 90 -600
130 -160 100 -590
131 -145 110 -580
132 -130 120 -570
133 -115 130 -560
134 -100 140 -550
135 -85 150 -540
136 -70 160 -530
137 -55 170 -520
138 -40 180 -510
139 -25 190 -500
140 -10 202 -490
141 5 214 -480
142 20 226 -470
143 35 238 -460
144 50 250 -450
145 65 262 -442
146 80 274 -434
147 95 286 -426
148 110 298 -418
149 125 310 -410
150 140 322 -402
151 155 334 -394
152 170 346 -386
153 185 358 -378
154 200 370 -370
155 215 382 -362
156 230 394 -354
157 245 406 -346
158 260 418 -338
159 275 430 -330
160 290 442 -322
161 305 454 -314
162 320 466 -306
163 335 478 -298
164 350 490 -290
165 365 502 -282
166 380 514 -274
167 395 526 -266
168 410 538 -258
169 425 550 -250
170 440 562 -242
171 455 574 -234
172 470 586 -226
173 485 598 -218
174 500 610 -210
175 515 622 -202
176 530 -194
177 545 -186
178 560 -178
179 575 -170
180 590 -162
181 600 -154
182 610 -146
183 620 -138
184 630 -130
185 640 -122
186 650 -114
187 660 -106
188 670 -98
189 680 -90
190 690 -82
191 700 -74
192 710 -66
193 720 -58
194 730 -50
195 740 -42
196 750 -34
197 760 -26
198 770 -18
199 780 -10
200 790 -2
201 800 6
202 810 14
203 820 22
204 830 30
205 840 38
206 850 46
207 860 54
208 870 62
209 880 70
210 890 78
211 900 86
212 910 94
213 920 102
214 930 110
215 940 118
216 950 126
217 960 134
218 970 142
219 980 150
220 990 158
221 1000 166
222 1010 174
223 1020 182
224 1030 190
225 1040 198
226 1050 206
227 1060 214
228 1070 222
229 1080 230
230 1090 238
231 1100 246
232 1110 254
233 1120 260
234 1130 266
235 1140 272
236 1150 278
237 1160 284
238 1170 290
239 1180 296
240 1190 302
241 1200 308
242 1210 314
243 1220 320
244 1230 326
245 1240 332
246 1250 338
247 1260 344
248 1270 350
249 1280 356
250 1290 362
251 1300 368
252 1310 374
253 1320 380
254 1330 386
255 1340 392
256 1350 398
257 1360 404
258 1370 410
259 1380 416
260 1390 422
261 1400 428
262 1405 434
263 1410 440
264 1415 446
265 1420 452
266 1425 458
267 1430 464
268 1435 470
269 1440 476
270 1445 480
271 1450 484
272 1455 488
273 1460 492
274 1465 496
275 1470 500
276 1475 504
277 1480 508
278 1485 512
279 1490 516
280 1495 520
281 1500 524
282 1505 528
283 1510 532
284 1515 536
285 1520 540
286 1525 544
287 1530 548
288 1535 552
289 1540 556
290 1545 560
291 1550 564
292 1555 568
293 1560 572
294 1565 576
295 1570 580
296 1575 584
297 1580 588
298 1585 592
299 1590 596
300 1595 600
301 1600
302 1605
303 1610
304 1615
305 1620
306 1625
307 1630
308 1635
309 1640
310 1645
311 1650
312 1655
313 1660
314 1665
315 1670
316 1675
317 1680
318 1685
319 1690
320 1695
321 1700
322 1703
323 1706
324 1709
325 1712
326 1715
327 1718
328 1721
329 1724
330 1727
331 1730
332 1733
333 1736
334 1739
335 1742
336 1745
337 1748
338 1751
339 1754
340 1757
341 1760
342 1763
343 1766
344 1769
345 1772
346 1775
347 1778
348 1781
349 1784
350 1787
351 1790
352 1793
353 1796
354 1799
355 1802
356 1805
357 1808
358 1811
359 1814
360 1817
361 1820
362 1823
363 1826
364 1829
365 1832
366 1835
367 1838
368 1841
369 1844
370 1846
371 1848
372 1850
373 1852
374 1854
375 1856
376 1858
377 1860
378 1862
379 1864
380 1866
381 1868
382 1870
383 1872
384 1874
385 1876
386 1878
387 1880
388 1882
389 1884
390 1886
391 1888
392 1890
393 1892
394 1894
395 1896
396 1898
397 1900
398 1902
399 1904
400 1906
401 1908
402 1910
403 1912
404 1914
405 1916
406 1918
407 1920
408 1922
409 1924
410 1926
411 1928
412 1930
413 1932
414 1934
415 1935
416 1936
417 1937
418 1938
419 1939
420 1940
421 1941
422 1942
423 1943
424 1944
425 1945
426 1946
427 1947
428 1948
429 1949
430 1950
431 1951
432 1952
433 1953
434 1954
435 1955
436 1956
437 1957
438 1958
439 1959
440 1960
441 1961
442 1962
443 1963
444 1964
445 1965
446 1966
447 1967
448 1968
449 1969
450 1970
451 1971
452 1972
453 1973
454 1974
455 1975
456 1976
457 1977
458 1978
459 1979
460 1980
461 1981
462 1982
463 1983
464 1984
465 1985
466 1986
467 1987
468 1988
469 1989
470 1990
471 1991
472 1992
473 1993
474 1994
475 1995
476 1996
477 1997
478 1998
479 1999
480 2000
481 2001
482 2002
483 2003
484 2004
485 2005
486 2006
487 2007
488 2008
489 2009
490 2010
491 2011
492 2012
493 2013
494 2014
495 2015
496 2016
497 2017
498 2018
499 2019
500 2020



Here are the spawn turns:

0, #3000BC
0, #3000BC
34, #1900BC
42, #1750BC
65, #1400BC
79, #1200BC
85, #1100BC
92, #1000BC
104, #844BC
107, #814BC
109, #808BC
114, #753BC
139, #500BC
169, #250BC
237, #285AD
240, #300AD

And the corresponding civs:

iEgypt = 0
iBabylonia = 1
iIsrael = 2
iHittites = 3
iAthens = 4
iPhoenicia = 5
iEtruria = 6
iSparta = 7
iPersia = 8
iCarthage = 9
iMacedonia = 10
iRome = 11
iCelts = 12
iGermania = 13
iByzantium = 14
iHuns = 15

Late Ancient era was made especially longer in order to allow a 60 turns long period of mass destruction by the Huns

I like it. There's no exceptional gaps where no civs are spawning, which is kind of nice.

Shouldn't you have a 0 or 1 AD though? Not that it's really important, I just figured that's an important occasion.

Late Ancient era was made especially longer in order to allow a 60 turns long period of mass destruction by the Huns


Awesome!

@mekajiki: There was no 0 BC or AD... Also, it wasnt important because the calendar is not accurate to this date... so ultimately its not a big deal.

@rhye: while i must say i approve of all I see, I just have a question about Athens: with a spawn date of 1400BC, are they supposed to represent the Mycenaeans too? (if so, I would move them back to 1650 BC, which I know makes a little more of a gap, but not too much)

no they're not.
I'm trying to keep Athens and Sparta as close as possible, but it's hard to push Athens later and Sparta earlier

While I'm careful in extending the lenght too much, because it will increase the amount of work needed on the tech tree, I tried to extend it a bit (to 375), in order to give more time to the AI to make conquests and colonization.
All the eras are more or less slightly extended: I didn't expand just a single part.


0 -3000
1 -2970
2 -2940
3 -2910
4 -2880
5 -2850
6 -2820
7 -2790
8 -2760
9 -2730
10 -2700
11 -2670
12 -2640
13 -2610
14 -2580
15 -2550
16 -2520
17 -2490
18 -2460
19 -2430
20 -2400
21 -2370
22 -2340
23 -2310
24 -2280
25 -2250
26 -2220
27 -2190
28 -2160
29 -2145
30 -2130
31 -2115
32 -2100
33 -2085
34 -2070
35 -2055
36 -2040
37 -2025
38 -2010
39 -1995
40 -1980
41 -1965
42 -1950
43 -1935
44 -1920
45 -1905
46 -1890
47 -1875
48 -1860
49 -1845
50 -1830
51 -1815
52 -1800
53 -1785
54 -1770
55 -1755
56 -1740
57 -1725
58 -1710
59 -1695
60 -1680
61 -1665
62 -1650
63 -1635
64 -1620
65 -1605
66 -1590
67 -1575
68 -1560
69 -1545
70 -1530
71 -1515
72 -1500
73 -1485
74 -1470
75 -1455
76 -1440
77 -1425
78 -1410
79 -1395
80 -1380
81 -1365
82 -1350
83 -1335
84 -1320
85 -1305
86 -1290
87 -1275
88 -1260
89 -1245
90 -1230
91 -1215
92 -1200
93 -1185
94 -1170
95 -1155
96 -1140
97 -1125
98 -1110
99 -1095
100 -1080
101 -1065
102 -1050
103 -1035
104 -1020
105 -1005
106 -990
107 -982
108 -974
109 -966
110 -958
111 -950
112 -942
113 -934
114 -926
115 -918
116 -910
117 -902
118 -894
119 -886
120 -878
121 -870
122 -862
123 -854
124 -846
125 -838
126 -830
127 -822
128 -814
129 -806
130 -798
131 -790
132 -782
133 -774
134 -766
135 -758
136 -750
137 -742
138 -734
139 -726
140 -718
141 -710
142 -702
143 -694
144 -686
145 -678
146 -670
147 -662
148 -654
149 -646
150 -638
151 -630
152 -622
153 -614
154 -606
155 -598
156 -590
157 -582
158 -574
159 -566
160 -558
161 -550
162 -542
163 -534
164 -526
165 -518
166 -510
167 -502
168 -494
169 -486
170 -478
171 -470
172 -462
173 -454
174 -448
175 -442
176 -436
177 -430
178 -424
179 -418
180 -412
181 -406
182 -400
183 -394
184 -388
185 -382
186 -376
187 -370
188 -364
189 -358
190 -352
191 -346
192 -340
193 -334
194 -328
195 -322
196 -316
197 -310
198 -304
199 -298
200 -292
201 -286
202 -280
203 -274
204 -268
205 -262
206 -256
207 -250
208 -244
209 -238
210 -232
211 -226
212 -220
213 -214
214 -208
215 -202
216 -196
217 -190
218 -184
219 -178
220 -172
221 -166
222 -160
223 -154
224 -148
225 -142
226 -136
227 -130
228 -124
229 -118
230 -112
231 -106
232 -100
233 -94
234 -88
235 -82
236 -76
237 -70
238 -64
239 -58
240 -52
241 -46
242 -40
243 -34
244 -28
245 -22
246 -16
247 -10
248 -4
249 2
250 8
251 14
252 20
253 26
254 32
255 38
256 44
257 50
258 56
259 62
260 68
261 74
262 80
263 86
264 92
265 98
266 104
267 110
268 116
269 122
270 128
271 134
272 140
273 146
274 152
275 158
276 164
277 170
278 176
279 182
280 188
281 194
282 200
283 206
284 212
285 218
286 224
287 230
288 236
289 242
290 248
291 254
292 260
293 266
294 272
295 278
296 284
297 290
298 296
299 302
300 308
301 312
302 316
303 320
304 324
305 328
306 332
307 336
308 340
309 344
310 348
311 352
312 356
313 360
314 364
315 368
316 372
317 376
318 380
319 384
320 388
321 392
322 396
323 400
324 404
325 408
326 412
327 416
328 420
329 424
330 428
331 432
332 436
333 440
334 444
335 448
336 452
337 456
338 460
339 464
340 468
341 472
342 476
343 480
344 484
345 488
346 492
347 496
348 500
349 504
350 508
351 512
352 516
353 520
354 524
355 528
356 532
357 536
358 540
359 544
360 548
361 552
362 556
363 560
364 564
365 568
366 572
367 576
368 580
369 584
370 588
371 592
372 596
373 600
374 604
375 608



tBirth = (
0, #3000BC
0, #3000BC
0, #3000BC
45, #1900BC
55, #1750BC
79, #1400BC
98, #1100BC
105, #1000BC
124, #844BC
128, #814BC
130, #808BC
136, #753BC
167, #500BC
230, #113BC
296, #285AD
299, #300AD
0, #
0, #
0
)

Thanks to the smaller map, a 300 turns loading (that would equal 1700 in RFC) takes a few minutes.

How big will the map be? Will it be unchanged from the original Greek World map?

How big will the map be? Will it be unchanged from the original Greek World map?

didn't you see this thread
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=333039

Wow, I'm an idiot.

If you're going to 600 AD, will you attempt to simulate the Gothic war and Justinian's reconquest of Italy?

Are there going to be multiple start dates for this mod, like there are in RFC? It might be good to have one at the beginning (obviously), one just before the start of Alexander's Empire, and then another one around about the time of the Punic Wars? (Allowing the player to play as Carthage from the start instead of switching to them when they spawn)

I think 2 start dates will suffice. Maybe one right after Rome's spawn in addition to 3000 BC.
the turn is 114, just 6 turns before half of the game, and by then 11 of the civs have spawned already.
If we want a start that's like 600 AD for RFC which means in a few turns a lot of civs will spawn then turn 104 seems like the best spot.