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luiz Oct 05, 2002, 08:52 AM This scenario takes place in Europe in the year 1913, a little before the First World War. Germany is getting more and more powerfull, a threat to the other european powers, England, France and Russia. Austria-Hungary is decadent but still powerfull. Italy is now unified and building up its army. Greece is independent from the Ottoman Empire, wich is in its last days.
This is how Europe is divided:
Spain
Portugal
France
Italy
Belgium
Netherlands
Denmark
Sweden
Norway
Germany
England
Austria-Hungary
Russia
Southeastern Europe(Romania and Serbia)
Greece
Ottoman Empire(and Bulgaria)
The human player is Germany, but its easy to change it using the editor.
This is version 1.3
This is what changed from version 1.0 to 1.1
1-Egypt is now English
2-Konigsberg(Kalingrad) is now german
3-Some russian city names are now fixed
This is what changed from version 1.1 to 1.2
1-English navy was placed
2-Some italian city names were fixed
This is what changed from version 1.2 to 1.3
1-Sarajevo now belongs to Austria-Hungary
2-Bulgaria now belongs to the Ottomans. I did this because Bulgaria was a rival of Romania and Serbia, the rest of Southeastern Europe civ.
Version 1.0 removed after 46 downloads
Version 1.1 removed after 20 downloads
Version 1.2 removed after 07 downloads
CIVKID Oct 06, 2002, 01:10 AM Can you give some more info like map, units, ect:D
Yoda Power Oct 06, 2002, 01:45 AM You have made some historical mistakes. Most of the cities in Russia had differnt names at the time St. Petersburg was called Petrograd and Volgograd(or Stalingrad whic it became later) is called Tsaritsyn. Also Egypt was under control of England at the time. I think the cities is to close to if you wanted so many of them you should have made it on a bigger map. A screenshot would be a good idea.
luiz Oct 06, 2002, 06:29 AM You are right about the russian city names, but you are wrong about Egypt. Egypt only went to english control after the end of World War I, when the Ottoman Empire collapsed.
Yoda Power Oct 06, 2002, 06:38 AM No I Am Not Wrong About Egypt. It had Ottoman overlordship untill 1914, but egypt became under british control in 1882 and they became independent in 1922. So from 1882 to 1922 egypt was english, NOT Ottoman. You should make Libya Ottoman if the scenario stars in 1913 that was the year that the Italiens took control of it.
luiz Oct 06, 2002, 07:52 AM Take a look at this map. Its a pretty good and accurate map of Europe and surroundigs in the year 1900. http://www.euratlas.com/big/big1900.htm
It shows Egypt under Ottoman rule.
luiz Oct 06, 2002, 07:54 AM But I guess some regions of Egypt were already under british rule, as in the map...
Yoda Power Oct 06, 2002, 08:43 AM This map shows exactly what i say, it shows that britain had control(its indicated by the yellow line) but egypt was still official Ottoman.
luiz Oct 06, 2002, 09:07 AM So theres no problem Egypt is Ottoman in my scenario, right? Anyway, the scenario is no reference at all. Ill change the russian city names...
Yoda Power Oct 06, 2002, 09:37 AM Originally posted by luiz
So theres no problem Egypt is Ottoman in my scenario, right? Anyway, the scenario is no reference at all. Ill change the russian city names...
No you should make egypt english becorse the english were occupying the country and it was the main base for the war against the Ottomans, so make egypt english!
luiz Oct 06, 2002, 10:31 AM Ok..ok..ok... But I dont see why to make such a big deal out of this... I only placed 2 egyptian citys...
luiz Oct 06, 2002, 10:32 AM Oh, and it would be helpfull if you told me what other russian citys beside St Petersbug and Volgograd had different names..
Yoda Power Oct 07, 2002, 07:07 AM It´s not so many but Nizhney should be Nizhniy Novgorod and Kalingrad was called Königsberg also it was a german city, also I just noticed that you in Denmark mave placed a city called Hanstholm it´s size 9!! that city woundn´t even go for a size 1.
And I wount play this before egypt is english.
Richard III Oct 07, 2002, 07:20 AM He's right. Egypt was under English control. It was a protectorate relationship. Since we civvers care about possession, and since a few infantry divisions is 9/10s of the law, then it should definitely be English, because their troops were holding the place.
Of course, in truth, it should be BRITISH, but that's another issue.
I'll look later this week, and try to be objective (since my own WWI scenario is far from complete), but I have to express a bit of surprise at the "southeastern europe" civ, given that the three countries in it were fighting each other tooth and nail throughout the war and that one of them was, uh, the cause of it.
But good to have you working on the subject and I look forward to it; we WWI aficianados are a neglected and lonely bunch :goodjob:
R.III
EDIT: as for the cities, for this and any other mod/scenario from 1880 on, I recommend you do what I did for my unfinished 1900 scenario, and take an afternoon to visit your local university library. There, you are 80% certain to find a collection of something called "The Statesman's Yearbook." Bring an atlas while you're there or grab one from the stacks, and cross-reference. You'll find that the Yearbook lists city sizes, city populations and military/economic stats as well (although there can be problem comparing apples to oranges, since what each country reported varied), all correct to the date mentioned.
luiz Oct 07, 2002, 09:57 AM I just uploaded a new version. Now Egypt is English and Konigsberg is german and some russian city names are fixed.
About the civ Southeastern Europe, the only reason why I put those 3 countrys together is I had already used 16 civs. I know Serbia, Romania and Bulgaria were rivals, but that was the only thing I could think at.
luiz Oct 08, 2002, 02:43 PM what did you people think of the new version? did it correct most problems??
Rhye Oct 08, 2002, 03:36 PM Caligari is CAGLIARI
And Calabaria should be CALABRIA, but Calabria is a region, not a city. You should put REGGIO CALABRIA in that place
Rhye Oct 08, 2002, 03:45 PM Sarajevo under Ottomans??? This is a big mistake.
And Serbia was indipendent and fought his war with Austria. Once Turkey attacked his back, it fell.
luiz Oct 08, 2002, 04:00 PM But Sarajevo is in Bosnia, not Serbia. Bosnia was occupied by the Ottomans on that time. No mistake at all.
luiz Oct 08, 2002, 04:25 PM I just uploladed version 1.2 and fixed some more problems. I think the scenario is now pretty accurate. What do you think??
Yoda Power Oct 09, 2002, 04:00 AM Do you love the Ottoman´s or what, egypt should be british and to your information Sarajevo has been Austrian-Hungarian since 1908 so fix it now!
Rhye Oct 09, 2002, 04:30 AM Yes, you're right Sarajevo is in Bosnia. But it should be under Austria-Hungary and should have serbian citizens. It is important because the city is symbolic (WWI begun there)
And I see that in version 1.2 italian names are still wrong; Sarajevo is still Ottoman, and -other great mistake- Bulgaria is allied with Serbia.
Bulgaria was allied with Ottomans, while Romania and Greece were allied with Serbia. So if you want to put cities under ottomans control, they should be bulgarians
luiz Oct 09, 2002, 10:01 AM Ok. I can explain that. The map I used as reference is from 1900, so Sarajevo belonged to the Ottomans in that time. I can fix that in a future version.
I already explained why Serbia is allied with Bulgaria. I know its a mistake. And I fixed the italians city names you told me, are there any more?
And Yoda man Egypt is English since version 1.1 why are you complaining??
Rhye Oct 10, 2002, 05:56 AM OK
hagen Oct 11, 2002, 04:53 AM Maybe Balcan States would be better than Southeastern Europe. That is too general i think.
Or Balcania. :)
luiz Oct 11, 2002, 10:24 AM Good idea... Im not sure if Romania is a Balcan State, but its still a good idea...
Caligula Oct 11, 2002, 07:27 PM A few comments, mostly on city names:
1 St Petersburg was renamed to Petrograd after the outbreak of war between Germany and Russia, for the silly reason that the rulers of Russia didn´t want their capital to have a German-sounding name. The city should therefore be called St Petersburg, and should be the Russian capital (instead of Moscow).
2 If you are restricted to ASCII characters, Königsberg should be Koenigsberg. The `ö´ is really an abbreviated form of `oe´, as `ä´ and `ü´ are abbreviated forms of `ae´ and `ue´, respectively. Similar examples include Lübeck (Luebeck) and Düsseldorf (Duesseldorf).
3 Gdansk and Koszalin were called Danzig and Köslin (Koeslin), respectively, until after the second world war, when they were transferred to Poland and the populations were expelled.
4 Strasbourg was part of Germany from 1871-1919, and the German name for the city is Straßburg (Strassburg).
5 Eidhoven should be Eindhoven.
6 Maybe you can find a way to add Switzerland? There are a lot of French and German troops down there on your map, even though it was neutral. :)
luiz Oct 12, 2002, 11:21 AM Thank you very much Caligula
In version 1.0 Petrograd was called St Petersburg, but people convinced me I was wrong. In the next version Ill correct all city names... about Switzerland, Ill try to think in a way to add it, but it will be very hard since I already used 16 civs...
luiz Oct 15, 2002, 05:32 AM Should I release a new version, where Strasbourg is german or should I leave the scenario as it is??
Drynagolt Oct 15, 2002, 11:52 AM Strasburg should be German, just change it when you have the time.
Jon Shafer Oct 15, 2002, 12:25 PM IMO, you should bundle some of the less important countries into one large 'Neutral European Minors' civ, so that you have more spots for the civs that had a greater impact on the war. For example, bundle Portugal, Norway and Denmark into one civ (make them pretty weak, so they can't have a major influence on the fighting to come). That would allow you to add both Rumania and Serbia, keeping all four of the minor Balkan powers seperate, as they should be.
Another thing, it appears as though many many civs have the same color (Spain and Portugal, Denmark and Sweden, Italy and the Ottomans). Not sure if you wanted it like that, but changing the colors so they're all individualized may make it easier to figure out who's who and who owns what (especially since the countries with the same color are very near to each other on the map).
Another thing, not sure if you were done yet, but you can build all units. All my cities want to build Warriors. ;)
luiz Oct 15, 2002, 02:29 PM Thanks for the suggestions, Ill consider them in the next version
About the colors, once you load the scenario they will become different.
ervanit Oct 16, 2002, 07:00 AM Actually you could merge Norway, Sweden and Denmark into one country since they had some "pact of neutrality".
Caligula Oct 16, 2002, 07:06 PM I think the unification of Scandinavia (or at least of Norway and Sweden, which were united from 1815-1905) is a good simplification. You could even call it Scandinavia. :-) The Kalmar Union is another option for the name, although it really belongs to another time (and scenario!).
The unification of Spain and Portugal is another suggestion, for similar reasons to Scandinavia.
Switzerland is very important because it prevents the existence of German-Italian and Austrian-French borders, and also reduces the size of the German-French border considerably. It should ideally be full of fortified units to prevent the other powers marching through it.
I don´t think it can be done, but it would be ideal to make many of the Russian and Austro-Hungarian cities contain `foreign´ populations, since these were empires ruling over people who in most cases did not wish to be part of them (e.g. Poles, Finns, Czechs, etc.), and not nation-states like Germany or France.
Is there any way to set up diplomatic relations in the scenario? I don´t think there is, but it´s silly to start with a black map and no diplomatic relations, esp. considering all the alliances that existed, and which were responsible for the war!
LouLong Oct 17, 2002, 02:13 AM Originally posted by Yoda Power
You should make Libya Ottoman if the scenario stars in 1913 that was the year that the Italiens took control of it.
Libya became completely Italian in 1913 but Italy started its military control = invasion (except in the South) in 1911.
My 2 cents'
Yoda Power Oct 17, 2002, 02:32 AM Oh i didnt knew that, thanks:goodjob:
Jon Shafer Oct 17, 2002, 09:30 AM Originally posted by Caligula
I don´t think it can be done, but it would be ideal to make many of the Russian and Austro-Hungarian cities contain `foreign´ populations, since these were empires ruling over people who in most cases did not wish to be part of them (e.g. Poles, Finns, Czechs, etc.), and not nation-states like Germany or France.
It is possible, but very difficult to impliment in a certain way. Making the actual citizens change will be impossible without Gramps' CMT being updated for PtW.
Is there any way to set up diplomatic relations in the scenario? I don´t think there is, but it´s silly to start with a black map and no diplomatic relations, esp. considering all the alliances that existed, and which were responsible for the war!
You can start the game as a hotseat game, with all players human-played, declare war, set MPPs throw around demands all you like, then convert the game back to AI controlled. Voila. :)
luiz Oct 17, 2002, 05:07 PM I think Ill unify Portugal and Spain and delete some portuguese cities so that "Iberian Union" wont be too strong. I still dont know how to fit Switzerland in that map, but Ill think in a way.
Lynx Oct 20, 2002, 07:19 PM I got this scenario feeling quite skeptical, but its really good and accurate. (although as germany fighting Denmark, Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, Russia, SE Europe, France, Portugal, and Italy at the same time can get crazy, at least I had my loyal allies Austria Hungary, The Ottomans, and the British:D )
luiz Oct 23, 2002, 10:23 AM Thanks Lynx
Superdrap Feb 16, 2003, 11:08 AM there are some more city name mistakes
1. Vilinus is really Vilnius
2. Dninopropetrovs'k(actually Dnipropetrivs'k in Ukrainian) was called Yekaterinoslav(in Ukrainian as Katherinoslav)
3. If u use Ukrainian names as Kharkiv or L'viv then use also Kyiv(or Kyyiv) instead of Kiev
4. Quite strange placement of Ufa (it should be moved to east).
5. Russian capital was in St. Petersburg
6. 2 cities Tiflis and Cars must be added in Caucasus as they were the main conflict land between Russia and Ottomans.
Iulianus Mar 16, 2003, 10:55 PM Good work luis.
But as far Greece is concerned you have some mistakes.
Thessalonika was Greek during WWI (became Greek during Balcan wars 1912) and that is important because the greek state split with the king in athens staying neutral friendly to germans and Venizelos in Thessalonica driving Greece to war against Germany and Boulgaria (1917). It was a kind of civil war.
Meteora is not a city but monastery-area you better rename them Ioannina wich is one of the big Modern greek cities and geographocaly in that place. I also sugest you have only one citie in Crete "Herakleion" or rename "Iraldia" to this. There no such city.
Minor sugestion. Move sparta 2 tiles up near wines and rename it Patra wich is (and was during WWI) the third city to Athens and Thessalonica while sparta is to small now.
Finally The Island with barbarian camp near Antalaya could be a city named Rodes with greek citizens but unter Italian Ocupation (1912 Dodecanese became Italian (former Ottoman))
Procifica Mar 16, 2003, 11:11 PM Greece declared war on the Central Powers in 1916.
Salonika (spelling) was the second largest city in Greece during WWI, I'm reading a book on WWI right now.
You can't make cities with one civ as an owner and having another civ's citizens.
Iulianus Mar 17, 2003, 07:17 AM I am pretty sure that Greece declared war to Central Powers at 1917 when King Constantine (who was a friend of germans and stayed neutral) left the country and Venizelos returned to athens and declared war. Boulgaria invaded Greece in 1916 but only the north part of the Country fought them back.
Salonika may be right spelling in English but I live in Thessaloniki ;)
"You can't make cities with one civ as an owner and having another civ's citizens." :( I hope i can in the future
Aussie Fascist Apr 04, 2003, 04:33 AM I know this issue was taken care ALONG time ago but being a bit of historian and an aussie patriot (hence the name) i still wanna say my part.
Putting Egypt under ottoman control is aussie sacralidge!!!
We aussies trained hard in egypt for our part in the Gallipoli campaign, and the thought that our troops were trained in an enemy country in order to fight that same enemy is an outrage.
P.S-im not really mad...i was just using emphasis thats all
luiz Apr 17, 2003, 03:54 PM Iulanos: Most corrections you pointed will be done in the next version of this scenario, for PTW.
Aussie: In the current version of the scenario Egypt is under british rule.
Kennelly May 01, 2003, 05:28 PM Just started playing and it looks pretty good.
If you're going to correct some things,give Germany a North Sea harbour.Of course we also had a Baltic Fleet,but the main intention of Germanys fleet program was to counter the Royal Navy,so in the North Sea on this map.The way it is I have to violate Scandinavian waters constantly to get to the North Sea,so Hamburg should be moved to the North Sea (it's Germanys biggest harbour after all).
luiz May 02, 2003, 07:37 AM Ill do that in the PTW version. Thanks for the tips, Kennely
Constantine May 08, 2003, 07:39 PM Great secanrio I was wondering if you give me the blank map if you made so i could make a Roman Scenario and if you didn't make tell me where i could get the blank map
luiz May 09, 2003, 02:24 PM You can get the map on the CFC download collection. I dont have it at the moment with me, but as soon as I download it I will post it here.
Constantine May 16, 2003, 04:58 PM Sorry to be nit picky but withe the forum search feature down could give me the name of the map or the link to the thread with the map in it
hcl2 Jun 08, 2003, 06:47 AM Here some corrections and suggestions:
There is no railway connection from Mo i Rana to Narvik, instead there is one from Luleå to Narvik.
Stravanger is called Stavanger, Gavle is called Gävle (or Gaevle), Telleborg is called Trelleborg, Copenhagen is København (or Koebenhavn) in Danish.
Nordkapp is not a city, but just a rock at the northern Coast. You may call that city Tromsø (Tromsoe) or Hammerfest.
You also should change the railway connection in southern Norway, the routes are:
Oslo-Kristiansand-Stavanger
Oslo-Bergen
Oslo-Trondheim
There does not exist a direkt connection from Stavanger to Trondheim via Bergen.
Oslo is called Kristiania in 1913. It was renamed Oslo in 1925.
I think in that days existet even a railway from Luleå to Oulu.
Bordeux is called Bordeaux.
The names of some Italian Cities:
Milano (Milan), Venezia (Venice), Roma (Rome), Genova (Genoa), Firenze (Florence), Napoli (Naples).
Some changes for Austria-Hungary:
Lech is not a big city, just a tourist village. Call it Innsbruck. In German Vienna is called Wien. Prague is Praha in Czech.
Balcane:
Bucharest is called Bucuresti, Belgrade is Beograd. Istanbul was called Konstantinopel in that days (renamed Istanbul in 1930!).
@Constantine (the poster before me): Do you really mean that, or shouldn't it be "Carthago deleta est"
luiz Jun 08, 2003, 12:54 PM Thanks for the corrections hcl2
hcl2 Jun 10, 2003, 11:13 AM I am relatively new to Civ3. How did you manage it to get cities into the .bic file?
I have looked around and only found tools to modify savegames. And the original editor is not capable of creating cities, isn't it?
Constantine Jun 10, 2003, 04:08 PM hcl2: to place cities in the editor you click on MAP than set active player near the bottom of the drop down menu. Once you set the civ two boxes that were grayed clear and one is for units and one for cities. These burttons are beside the place overlay button.
Off topic: it is Carthago delenda est! Being said by Cato in the senate bwtween the second and third punic wars.
See this Link
http://history.boisestate.edu/westciv/punicwar/17.htm
hcl2 Jun 10, 2003, 05:22 PM Originally posted by Constantine
Off topic: it is Carthago delenda est! Being said by Cato in the senate bwtween the second and third punic wars.
See this Link
http://history.boisestate.edu/westciv/punicwar/17.htm
@Constantine:
Thank you very much, I even don't know why I could not find that buttons!
BTW (Carthago): I thought that you wanted to say something different, cause we lerned in school the citation to be: "Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam".
Phoenix Jun 14, 2003, 09:36 AM Moscow wasnt the capital of Russia untill after the Bolshevik revolution which overthrew the monarcy (St. Petersburg was the capital). Not sure if this point has been brought up already because I dont have time to read all of the posts.
Good scenario!
White_Detroiter Jun 16, 2003, 12:54 AM What is with Kiev? It should be in the center of The Ukraine not near Warsaw! But it is hard to make every one happy, so good job anyway. Oh yea one more thing why are there player starting places all around and some nations have none?:confused:
White_Detroiter Jun 16, 2003, 12:58 AM And another thing it would be cool to have Russian Rebs all around maybe barbarans with riflemen and more HP?:
:tank:
Sarevok Jun 17, 2003, 06:25 PM are you planning to make a PTW version anytime soon? Im looking forward to a WW1 scenario for PTW that is actually pretty good. (otherwise, I can always do it for you).
HollandPTW Jun 26, 2003, 05:33 AM Its a great scenario but
Eihoven should be EiNdhoven
Lauwersoog should be Groningen because Lauwersoog is a verry little Village
luiz Jun 26, 2003, 05:52 PM Sarevok- I do plan to make this scenario for PTW, nut right now I dont have the time. I would only be able to do it in about 15 days. Feel free to make it PTW, if you wish.
Holland PTW- The corrections will be taken in account in a future version.
Sarevok Jun 26, 2003, 06:22 PM no, i plan to make a WW1 for conquests when it comes, Ive head about some of its features and i thought it would be perfect for what I have in mind.
Phoenix Jun 29, 2003, 01:29 PM Hey Luiz any chance of you putting this on a worldwide map?
Lynx Jun 29, 2003, 11:41 PM WW1 was a global conflict but most of the fighting was European, and even when it was not it europe it was european colonies fighting eachother. there were of course exceptions (Japan) but i think its better in europe.
luiz Jun 30, 2003, 05:55 PM I will give it a thought, Phoenix, but I agree with Lynx.
Lynx Jun 30, 2003, 11:37 PM BTW, in case anyone was wondering, tomorrow, July 1st is the 87th anneversary of the beginning of "The Battle of the Somme", the 'freindleist' battle of WW1 beginnig july 1st 1916 raging untill the fall. It killed over 600,000 troops on both sides of the conflict. On July 1st, the British sent 100,000 troops to attack the German trench after a opening bombarbment consuming over 1 million shells. But the Germans had dug 30ft trenches: impervious to AT fire. on July 1st however, of the 100,000 british troops that entered no-mans land, 20,000 wouldnt come back and 40,000 were wounded. It is considered the greatest military tragety in British history.
Just in case anyone wished to know...
Lynx Jun 30, 2003, 11:38 PM It was also the first battle where the Tank was used BTW.
Phoenix Jul 01, 2003, 05:34 AM I argree that most of the fighting was in Europe but I wanted to be able to change world history; what would have happened to the world if Germany had won or the Russians occupied Germany after the communist revolution (though very unlikely). Also the rebirth of the Germany Empire (WWII).
Angelscotboi Jul 02, 2003, 12:28 PM My theory is if the Central Powers had won the Great War then a second world war would have occurred but with a resurgent, angry and possibly facist/communist Franco-Italian-Anglo alliance starting it all.
Jeff76 Jul 19, 2003, 12:49 PM Hey civfans
First of all I want to say that the scenario looks well done.
(just some little mistakes are left : Strasbourg was at that time German since 1871, it came back to France as a result of this war. Second : wouldn't it be nice if Hamburg had a Harbor, because it has one, touching to the North sea. You should maybe make disapear the little town on Netherlands that is in the way.)
But most of all, I have to ask a question to the aythor and to everybody. I'm experiencing a lot of trouble with homemade scenarion, like this one. They just don't work. When its loading, after I chose which tribe, it blocks there and I can here the music of the game but the image doesn't come. It's the case with practically every scenario... Does somebody knows why ?
thanks for answering
Jeff76
luiz Jul 19, 2003, 06:06 PM @Jeff76
In most homemade scenarios it takes a very long time to load. What is happening to you is normal, the game has not crashed. My suggestion is to load the scenario and than watch some TV for about 30 min. When you come back, it will be ready to play.
Lynx Jul 20, 2003, 04:51 PM I dont like it either, but thats what happens, although there are some scenarios that are very quick while others can make you wait over 2 hours. I wonder why it takes so long though... because an average scenario of Civ 3 is waay smaller than some of these RTS scenarios, some even reaching 2 MB yet they take at worst about 15 seconds to load. Of couse, there are civ 3 scenario's of that size as well, but this is just something that got me curious.
You are correct Jeff76, strasbourg was indeed German from 1871 to 1918.
Cheetah Jul 22, 2003, 09:52 PM I tried this scenario today and found it very good.
It is great to be Norway and invading Sweden :D
On the other hand I noticed things I didn't think was correct and after seeing the posts here i decided I wanted to help out a bit. So I took what I hope was the latest version of the scenario and worked in most of the suggestions people came with.
Changes (I think the list is complete):
- Fixed terrain and cities in Scandinavia.
- Removed elephants from Norway and Iceland and placed game instead.
- Renamed Bordeux to Bordeaux.
- Deleted Groningen.
- Moved Hamburg 1 tile NW.
- Renamed Lech to Innsbruck and moved it 1 tile NE.
- Moved Salzburg 1 tile NE.
- Fixed some Greek cities and added Rhodes as an Italian city.
- Renamed Istanbul to Konstantinopel.
- I had no idea which city Yekaterinoslav was, I believe it might be misplaced, renamed it to Kisjinev (Capital of Moldova).
- Fixed cities in Polen, Ukraine and the surroundings.
- Moved Ufa and Tsaritsyn.
- Added Rostov.
- Reassigned Strassburg to Germany.
- Renamed Alicante to Valencia.
- Reassigned Faro to Spain and renamed it to Seville.
- Renamed Portsmouth to Southampton.
- Renamed Oban to Glasgow.
- Added Baghdad.
- Put all wonders in their correct location.
- Corrected male/female leaders of each civ.
- Added techs to certain civs, to give them more of the units that where present before the first world war (This could include such techs as Replaceable Parts, Combustion, Mass Production, Refining and Steel).
- Added some fortresses along the french-german border.
- Renamed the English to the British.
I added a "modified by" line in the end of the scenario properties if it is ok. I also uploaded the file here so you could have a look. If you don't think I should have modified the scenario and uploaded it luiz, I'll remove it.
Btw: Another bug. It is possible to go from the Atlantic and into the right part of the map. Don't know if it was like that or if I did something wrong. :-/
Yurt Jul 22, 2003, 11:07 PM Can you post a screenshot? (i.e. the one you see after you retire)
Sims2789 Jul 29, 2003, 10:01 PM its hard to change what civ the player is because you have the territory organized by player, not by civ. for example, Greek Ironclads say "Player 3(Greece)" underneath them in the civ3 editor instead of saying just "Greece"
i'd also reccomend giving each civ their own color, since the Ottomans and Italy are both red, and Denmark and Sweden are both yellow. good work, though. :goodjob:
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luiz Jul 30, 2003, 05:03 PM Cheetah, I liked what you did! Good job!
highphin Aug 04, 2003, 02:08 PM Cheetah, if you dont want people being able to go from the far-left side to the far-right (this is a default property, trying to make the map see like a planet) go to the editor and de-select "Allow X-Wrapping"
Atheose Aug 13, 2003, 09:17 PM Dude, Sarajevo was NOT under Ottoman rule at this time... the Ottomans had territory stretching to the Suez canal, and partly into Greece and Bulgaria, but not past that. The Austro-Hungarian Empire had Sarajevo.
Also, at the time, it WAS called Volgograd.
Otherwise, its a good map... brush up on your history though ;-)
ashley26ph2003 Sep 09, 2003, 05:40 PM what version of civ exe it compatible with this scenario
this scenario have events and strictly ww1
ashley26ph2003 Oct 07, 2003, 03:22 AM Can 4 Central powers have respective individual civ since they fought in 4's
Scandinavia also have neutral so they must be in groups
Sarevok Oct 09, 2003, 12:19 AM Have you updated this map recently?
luiz Oct 09, 2003, 06:52 PM @Sarevok:
I have been quite busy lately, and my scenario updates are happenning too slowly. Things will get better in the end of deceber, and than you can expect updates for most of my scenarios as well as new ones.
ashley26ph2003 Oct 10, 2003, 10:30 PM Can you have 4 Central Powers?
Is this for recent patch and PTW?
How about those have no PTW?
Sarevok Oct 10, 2003, 11:47 PM thanks for letting me know luiz.
ashley26ph2003 Nov 24, 2003, 04:41 PM any screen shoots
I have civ
I have not downloaded patches
what patches should I download
luiz Nov 24, 2003, 06:26 PM Sorry, I don't know what are all the patches, but they all are avaiable at CFC. Just download the latest patch, and it'll work
Metacomet Nov 26, 2003, 09:42 AM Thinking in a conquest version?
luiz Nov 27, 2003, 05:37 PM Sure. It seems that Conquests will have lots of scenario-building features.
But I need to buy it first.
shr00mz Aug 28, 2004, 06:57 AM great game i hade with your scenario.. i prolonged it so i simulated 2ww too. not so historical sadly couse brits couldnt built a harbor on one islnd with oil so they didnt have any navy (exept original scenario ironcloads) .. anyway.. great game
Sobassis Sep 11, 2004, 03:03 AM Is there a biq file for this scenario because my vanilla civ3 editor complains about every file that it opens as being an invalid civ 3 file. If anyone nows how to fix this silly problem please help me, or if anyone has a .biq file of this map please send it to me
luiz Sep 11, 2004, 05:23 PM Is there a biq file for this scenario because my vanilla civ3 editor complains about every file that it opens as being an invalid civ 3 file. If anyone nows how to fix this silly problem please help me, or if anyone has a .biq file of this map please send it to me
Yes, there is a biq file.
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Vandal Sep 27, 2004, 02:02 AM to include the swiss, i suggest just putting barbarians in forts on the mountain.
Lord_Azazel Oct 16, 2004, 01:32 AM you should provide what the dimensions are... but still great job on making thsi map...
ashley26ph2003 Mar 25, 2007, 06:50 PM Are the Major Players in War have existing treaties?
Ultimate Danny Jun 19, 2007, 06:00 PM Well Its a pretty good map but here are the things I would add that I can clearly see.
1) Cyprus was administered by the British.
2) Rename England the British Empire, and the people British and so forth.
3) Make the two alliances, Central Powers and Entente Powers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participants_in_World_War_I
Thats all I can think of, but Cyprus is actually important since it provides Britain with a better striking force there. Also Entente Forces may have to be a bit unrealistically more powerful since there is no United States.
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