Tatran
Oct 06, 2009, 03:45 AM
Does fall-out (global warming) with the buffy mod, also affect tile change or only improvements on it ?
This happened in a recent game :
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6370/beforegw.th.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/i/beforegw.jpg/) http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5329/aftergw.th.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/i/aftergw.jpg/)
Ozbenno
Oct 07, 2009, 05:24 AM
Fallout can have the same effect as GW, causing desert or plains on grass etc as well as destroying tile improvements. That's a feature of Civ, not BUFFY.
kcd_swede
Oct 13, 2009, 07:41 AM
Fallout can have the same effect as GW, causing desert or plains on grass etc as well as destroying tile improvements. That's a feature of Civ, not BUFFY.
Actually, that is incorrect, in my limited understanding. BUFFY includes a MOD for nuclear winter, which is similar in mechanics to GW, but subtly different (different progression of terrain alteration). In BUFFY, fallout triggers nuclear winter effects, not GW per se. Read more about it here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=302649
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If you follow the link to the GW MOD (included in BUFFY) you can read this tidbit:
Nuclear winter does mostly the same calculation as global warming, including the defence value from forests etc. but GW only uses unhealth now and nuclear strikes are used by NW, and it uses NUCLEAR_WINTER_PROB found in GlobalDefinesAlt.xml. It will first do the random calculation to drop radiation (fallout feature) on the tiles, and if that succeeds it will run the same calculation again to determine if the dust also blocks out sunlight turning the tile into tundra. So early occurrences will be fixable but later it could cause permanent damage. (Unless of course global warming hits that tile too, but good luck trying to play for that.)
Tatran
Oct 13, 2009, 09:07 AM
The fall-out representation is confusing.
Is it nuclear winter or global warming?
In my first post Frederick has nuked a barbarian city.
So, what does the fall-out in the second picture represent, NW or GW?
Here's another weird fall-out accident :
No nukes and no nuclear plant, so it must be GW.
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1347/cantclean.th.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/i/cantclean.jpg/)
kcd_swede
Oct 14, 2009, 05:06 AM
The fall-out representation is confusing.
Is it nuclear winter or global warming?
In my first post Frederick has nuked a barbarian city.
So, what does the fall-out in the second picture represent, NW or GW?
Here's another weird fall-out accident :
No nukes and no nuclear plant, so it must be GW.
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1347/cantclean.th.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/i/cantclean.jpg/)
Were nukes or reactor meltdowns being used somewhere else? Your log says nuclear fallout falls from the sky, so that would be nuclear winter mechanics, I think. Frankly, I did not know it could occur like that.:confused:
Tatran
Oct 14, 2009, 12:15 PM
Nukes were banned by the U.N., so it had to be a nuclear meltdown somewhere.