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Ozymandias
Oct 22, 2009, 02:15 PM
I've posted a few units now that predate the Great Hacking. This is not the intention with which I changed my self-description to, "Modding Archivist," but I do have stockpiled hundreds - thousands? - of units from 2002 - 2006.

I am NOT eager to sort these out and compend and repost them all, but if you're looking for a particular unit (which, if you're new enough, you might not even know exists) please just post here, and I'll see what I can do.

Best,

Oz

PS - I am least likely to have fantasy units, especially non-human ones, but, still, feel free to ask.

-O.

Hikaro Takayama
Oct 22, 2009, 04:02 PM
....and I'm probably the most likely to have non-human fantasy units (I left virtually no stone un-turned in my quest for FF mod unit lines). ;)

Balthasar
Oct 23, 2009, 04:17 PM
Well you can pretty much guess my request list, Oz: 19th century units. As a professional sorter (of sorts) I'm pretty frustrated by the system set up for the database, where WWI and WWII units should have their own categories, and I might even further sort out tanks and (definitely) planes into their own sub-categories because of their sheer number. Let me know if there's anything that I can do to help; I'm an extremely rapid typist, too.

Ozymandias
Oct 23, 2009, 04:24 PM
Well you can pretty much guess my request list, Oz: 19th century units. As a professional sorter (of sorts) I'm pretty frustrated by the system set up for the database, where WWI and WWII units should have their own categories, and I might even further sort out tanks and (definitely) planes into their own sub-categories because of their sheer number. Let me know if there's anything that I can do to help; I'm an extremely rapid typist, too.

I presume you've been collecting them as they appeared, so the Big Question is, What's the earliest dated file you have?

Best,

Oz

Balthasar
Oct 23, 2009, 05:44 PM
I presume you've been collecting them as they appeared, so the Big Question is, What's the earliest dated file you have?

If it's not in the database now, and not on GI Dustin's site, I don't have it. We didn't actually start collecting units until well after the hack..

...and I never did find that slave girl.:mischief:

Ozymandias
Oct 23, 2009, 07:52 PM
If it's not in the database now, and not on GI Dustin's site, I don't have it. We didn't actually start collecting units until well after the hack..

...and I never did find that slave girl.:mischief:

OK, the db starts/ends (depending upon POV) in 2006, and GID's not maintaining the C3 part of his website any longer.

Give me a few days to troll through my files and compend a list. To clarify: ALL 19th Century (Napoleonic etc.) or just, say, Crimea and later?

-As for the sg, send me your email as (as far as I know) it's nowhere online :mischief:

Best,

Oz

D.Durand
Oct 23, 2009, 08:32 PM
You now what i suggest ? Put them all in one big archive, and post the archive, camarade !

wolf_brother
Oct 23, 2009, 08:39 PM
You now what i suggest ? Put them all in one big archive, and post the archive, camarade !

2nd :goodjob:

Ozymandias
Oct 23, 2009, 08:40 PM
You now what i suggest ? Put them all in one big archive, and post the archive, camarade !

Possible, but it would absolutely wreck the integrity of the units db organization.

If any mod reading this wishes to offer a solution (i.e., somewhere to dump hundreds of .zips & whatnot arranged alphabetically) (except the slave girl of course :mischief: ) drop me a line.

Best,

Oz

General 666
Oct 24, 2009, 04:48 AM
I can live with the Pack solution !:mischief: The DB is unlogically clustered anyway.;)
THE UNITS ARE THE IMPORTANT PART HERE.:D

Wotan49
Oct 25, 2009, 12:59 PM
Ozymandias


Is there a list of Artillery, before Wyrmshadow May 2007
:)
With best regards,

Wotan49

Deth McBones
Oct 25, 2009, 01:59 PM
Hey Oz, quick question: Any ACW era units? Especially infantry. I'm working on this era for my mod, and I could use some more units, from any civ. Anything from 1850-1900 would work perfectly.

Tommy Vercetti
Oct 25, 2009, 02:31 PM
Do you have any Modern ships for Russia and China?

Ozymandias
Oct 25, 2009, 07:12 PM
@Wotan, Deth McB, and TV - I'll start compiling lists and posting them here.

@Balthasar - at first glance, post-Napoleonic 19th Century units seem in short supply, but I'm not done yet.

@Wotan49 - the coruption seems tto have affected the db pre mid-July 2006, and I'm sure there's something in there.

@ Deth McBones - I'd be surprised if there wasn't, although all I've seen so far is artillery.

@Tommy Vercetti - You're going to be very happy :)

I'll probably just post lists here until we figure out some way to reload these.

Best,

Oz

EDIT / P.S. - I've just PMed The Mods seeking a way to do this in an orderly fashion.

-O.

Virote_Considon
Oct 25, 2009, 07:39 PM
Thanks for doing this, Ozy! :)

Ozymandias
Oct 25, 2009, 09:04 PM
Thanks for doing this, Ozy! :)

My pleasure, although I eagerly await a methodology from the mods.

:king: ,

Oz

wolf_brother
Oct 25, 2009, 09:06 PM
You're going to be (or at least should be) everyone's new best friend if the mods can get this to work right :)

Ares de Borg
Oct 26, 2009, 09:18 AM
This could be useful:

http://www.lockergnome.com/it/2008/09/18/list-folder-contents-in-a-word-document/

Ozymandias
Oct 26, 2009, 09:14 PM
Ozymandias

Is there a list of Artillery, before Wyrmshadow May 2007
:)
With best regards,

Wotan49

Greetings! - Do you mean gunpowder artillery going back to bombards, or the more general sense including catapults & whatnot too?

Also, why May 2007? I don't think the corruption affected anything after July ~20th, 2006.

Best,

Oz

Ozymandias
Oct 26, 2009, 09:17 PM
This could be useful:

http://www.lockergnome.com/it/2008/09/18/list-folder-contents-in-a-word-document/

Thanks Ares, I had forgotten that trick (well, actually the one using the "Tree" command - sometimes I wonder whether I remember more DOS than I've forgotten or vice-versa :crazyeye: )

Initial Lists To Follow Soon,

Oz

Wotan49
Oct 27, 2009, 01:20 AM
:)
@Greetings! - Do you mean gunpowder artillery going back to bombards, or the more general sense including catapults & whatnot too?

Yes, only those that were in use from ca 1800!
and without staff (if they exist), otherwise the potential for multi-unit to large

:coffee:
:p
With best regards,

Wotan49

Wotan49
Oct 27, 2009, 01:21 AM
Ozymandias
:)
Double-oh :blush:

:coffee:
:old:
With best regards,

Wotan49

Virote_Considon
Oct 27, 2009, 09:59 AM
Also, why May 2007? I don't think the corruption affected anything after July ~20th, 2006.

Best,

Oz

The corruption affected everything after a date in 2007, not a date in 2006, I think.

Ozymandias
Oct 27, 2009, 11:38 AM
The corruption affected everything after a date in 2007, not a date in 2006, I think.

The earliest entries in all unit db categories is July 26/27 2006.

Best,

Oz

Virote_Considon
Oct 27, 2009, 11:40 AM
Oops... I was thinking of the hacking we had.

Ozymandias
Oct 27, 2009, 12:12 PM
Oops... I was thinking of the hacking we had.

:confused: I assumed the 2 were one in the same ... ?

Virote_Considon
Oct 27, 2009, 12:27 PM
The hacking was in 2008, but we lost files from 2007 (when the last successful backup was)

Ozymandias
Oct 27, 2009, 12:45 PM
The hacking was in 2008, but we lost files from 2007 (when the last successful backup was)

Okay, then I (as is so often the case) am confused. Why late July '06 in the d/l db, and how can one find out what's missing after that date, without going through some hair-tearing process?

Virote_Considon
Oct 27, 2009, 01:06 PM
Late July is when the DB first opened, I think.

I don't think that much is missing after that date now, actually.

Balthasar
Oct 27, 2009, 03:26 PM
Not available, though listed in the database:

100thBalloon's Flavored Army Units (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=1698)

It's a start. Compounding the problem is that some units are available in the Unit Library that aren't in the database. Weird.

Ozymandias
Oct 27, 2009, 03:45 PM
Not available, though listed in the database:

100thBalloon's Flavored Army Units (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=1698)

It's a start. Compounding the problem is that some units are available in the Unit Library that aren't in the database. Weird.

Note that the date of the thread that it's linked to is Mar 18, 2005.

Best,

Oz

Balthasar
Oct 27, 2009, 05:43 PM
Note that the date of the thread that it's linked to is Mar 18, 2005

um..yes..exactly. Before the hack. If you have those units in your pile, you can upload them without fear of duplication. Besides, I found that out while looking for an "Armies" (I'll use the plural to avoid confusion) unit, and after discovering that there are only a mere pittance of original "armies" units at all.

I'd like to make a list of all of the dead links in the database. Would that be of any help to you in your sorting process?

tom2050
Oct 27, 2009, 09:05 PM
My pleasure, although I eagerly await a methodology from the mods.

:king: ,

Oz

Has a mod said anything about perhaps the best way to do this? Or any type of methodology? I'm surprised a mod hasn't left a message yet, unless they have PM'd you... :mischief:

Tom

Ozymandias
Oct 27, 2009, 10:08 PM
I'd like to make a list of all of the dead links in the database. Would that be of any help to you in your sorting process?

Absolutely!

-&-

@ both Balthasar and Tom2050 - I Pm-ed all 4 of our main mods a few days back and hope to hear ... something ... soon. If not, I'll nudge them again.

-OR-

Within reason, I could email folks whatever they want, so long as they promise to PROPERLY re-upload whatever they get to the db - Thoughts?

Yours Traveling Into The Future At The Rate Of 1 Second Per Second,

Oz

MeteorPunch
Oct 28, 2009, 12:48 PM
Within reason, I could email folks whatever they want, so long as they promise to PROPERLY re-upload whatever they get to the db - Thoughts?

If you wanted to create a big .zip of your directory or just the files you know are not on CFC, then put them on a hosting service like Rapidshare or Megaupload, maybe there would be some people willing to then divide and upload the files to CFC.

Blue Monkey
Oct 28, 2009, 03:23 PM
I just read the thread. We can't immediately get to every single thread. Pming a mod is a welcomed way to draw our attention. ;)

I don't know of a quick solution. I think asking Ozy. to look through what he's got every time someone makes a request is a little much. I know there was an effort after one of the hacks to re-upload many of the items. The thread title is not very useful for getting additional help.

I'd recommend:

contact one of the admins to see if there's a way to streamline this
people compile a list of dead db links
batch post what you have for others to re-upload as needed

Ozymandias
Oct 28, 2009, 04:17 PM
I just read the thread. We can't immediately get to every single thread. Pming a mod is a welcomed way to draw our attention. ;)

I don't know of a quick solution. I think asking Ozy. to look through what he's got every time someone makes a request is a little much. I know there was an effort after one of the hacks to re-upload many of the items. The thread title is not very useful for getting additional help.

I'd recommend:

contact one of the admins to see if there's a way to streamline this
people compile a list of dead db links
batch post what you have for others to re-upload as needed


Hi Blue,

(1) done - joint PM to Padma, Plotinus, Chieftess, and Turner. (Maybe you can employ your influence here - no word back as yet.)
(2) a call goes out for volunteers!
(3) "Batch Post" - you mean, hundreds of .zips etc in one place ... and uploaded where?

Gracias,

Oz

Deth McBones
Oct 28, 2009, 05:32 PM
Within reason, I could email folks whatever they want, so long as they promise to PROPERLY re-upload whatever they get to the db - Thoughts?
Oz
I'll volunteer to re-upload anything that gets handed off to me.
I've got plenty of storage space as well, so I can take chunks at a time.

Ares de Borg
Oct 28, 2009, 05:39 PM
I could help if you need me, too.

Ozymandias
Oct 28, 2009, 06:40 PM
I could help if you need me, too.

Hm. I suppose, email limits permitting, I could parcel them out, people would focus on their interests, and all would be well ... ?

I'll try to have a .rtf list posted by Friday.

Thank You,

Oz

Blue Monkey
Oct 28, 2009, 08:12 PM
I know that there are various services around that allow temporary free uploads. Not having used one I don't know which to recommend.

There will probably be behind the scenes discussion at the mod/admin forum, so an immediate response does not mean no.

tom2050
Oct 28, 2009, 09:29 PM
Use http://www.imagehost.org/

It allows free uploads, with no log-in's to upload / download.. up to 100MB file size of any file type PER FILE, etc. And the files stay there for as long as there is someone downloading it every 3 months or so I think. If a file gets no activity after a length of time, then it is auto-deleted, but great for temp files.

It is much better than many others which are slow, and bombard you with pop-up and other annoying things like crazy.

Tom

Ozymandias
Oct 28, 2009, 10:36 PM
Use http://www.imagehost.org/

It allows free uploads, with no log-in's to upload / download.. up to 100MB file size of any file type PER FILE, etc. And the files stay there for as long as there is someone downloading it every 3 months or so I think. If a file gets no activity after a length of time, then it is auto-deleted, but great for temp files.

It is much better than many others which are slow, and bombard you with pop-up and other annoying things like crazy.

Tom

:goodjob:

wolf_brother
Oct 28, 2009, 11:17 PM
Hm. I suppose, email limits permitting, I could parcel them out, people would focus on their interests, and all would be well ... ?

This is probably the worst option available, imho. Even if every active member of the civ3 forums picked up some part of the files, due to everyone having different, and often overlapping areas of interest, some files would be left.

One large upload to Rapidshare or Megaupload would seem to be the best option, if for whatever reason the admin here at fanatics doesn't want all of those excellent units re-uploaded to the database :mischief:

Blue Monkey
Oct 28, 2009, 11:29 PM
if for whatever reason the admin here at fanatics doesn't want all of those excellent units re-uploaded to the databaseThat's just rude, & uncalled for - said facetiously or not.

wolf_brother
Oct 28, 2009, 11:45 PM
That's just rude, & uncalled for - said facetiously or not.

:confused: I believe we have very different ideas of what constitutes rudeness.
I apologize if you took it that way, however.

Balthasar
Oct 29, 2009, 05:47 AM
:confused: I believe we have very different ideas of what constitutes rudeness. I apologize if you took it that way, however.

If it wasn't rude, it was at least wildly illogical. Think: if anyone in charge wanted to limit the number of units available, it would be too easy. I imagine that they're motivated entirely the opposite and enthusiastically welcome new units, especially units that were thought to be lost. If I'm not mistaken, the moderators aren't financially compensated for the responsibility they take on here, but do a bang-up job, and all of the ones I've dealt with have been polite and as helpful as they could be, Blue Monkey particularly included. Just be cool, Wolfy; this is a nice sandbox - and throwing sand is is frowned upon.

As to the meat of the discussion, I'm willing to help, Oz, anyway I can getting these out; and that list of dead links is underway.

Ozymandias
Oct 29, 2009, 11:52 AM
As to the meat of the discussion, I'm willing to help, Oz, anyway I can getting these out; and that list of dead links is underway.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

wolf_brother
Oct 29, 2009, 04:20 PM
If it wasn't rude, it was at least wildly illogical. Think: if anyone in charge wanted to limit the number of units available, it would be too easy. I imagine that they're motivated entirely the opposite and enthusiastically welcome new units, especially units that were thought to be lost.

Thus the "mischief" smiley following my initial comment. I realize that online web-forums aren't the best place for sarcasm and wit, but I had come to believe that this forum was different in that sense. We're all here because we all like this game, and we obviously enjoy this community very much - especially its administration, who do such a great and tiring job for no compensation asides from the satisfaction they get in helping this community. We all want more, more graphics, more mods, and yes, more units. I would sincerely doubt that any one here doesn't want to or wouldn't help Oz with his plethora of old units he needs to find some way to re-upload. I'm honestly shocked at the reaction I'm getting for such a small and simple comment.

EDIT: I also think its interesting which of my two comments was picked up on. Getting back to the issue at hand here, Oz has a ton of units he needs to re-upload somehow, and we (the community) want all of them. Letting the files get parceled out piecemeal by various different members of the community will only ensure that something will be left out, and something will be uploaded twice.

Hikaro Takayama
Oct 29, 2009, 06:06 PM
I'll be willing to help, time and health permitting (I've been slammed by a REALLY nasty bug this week that also seems to have hit about 60% of the people in my class at the university too).

Virote_Considon
Oct 29, 2009, 07:47 PM
I'll help. I think I'll have the time.

Balthasar
Oct 30, 2009, 08:27 AM
Letting the files get parceled out piecemeal by various different members of the community will only ensure that something will be left out, and something will be uploaded twice.

Ah, ye of little faith. Oz knows who can be trusted here and who's just dropping by. If Oz divides it up into reasonably-sized (and themed) folders, and each folder is the responsibility of one person to upload, the job is perfectly manageable. Moreover if, say, Hikaro is really quick, he can 'sign out' another folder from Oz, and it all moves along that much faster. Delegating the work will allow time and opportunity for spot checks for accuracy and progress. When it's all done, Oz posts a list of everything that should have been uploaded, and uses the thread thereafter for mistake-spotting. It could all be done within a week. So don't be such a pessimist... What Oz needs, then, are volunteers he knows well, who, like Hikaro and Virote, are willing to help.

tom2050
Oct 30, 2009, 09:29 AM
I can help out also. If Oz decides to parcel out the files piecemeal, then he could put them up on a file site, then each could go through those and upload them to CFC in their appropriate spots. I don't think there would be any major problems with doing it like that. The one thing that might be unknown is the author's of many of the files (if they don't have a ReadMe or something saying who made it, etc...), in which we wouldn't know who to put as author in the Database section.

Tom

Ozymandias
Oct 30, 2009, 11:18 AM
I can help out also. If Oz decides to parcel out the files piecemeal, then he could put them up on a file site, then each could go through those and upload them to CFC in their appropriate spots. I don't think there would be any major problems with doing it like that. The one thing that might be unknown is the author's of many of the files (if they don't have a ReadMe or something saying who made it, etc...), in which we wouldn't know who to put as author in the Database section.

Tom

:) Except for my earliest files, I always append "=creator" to a file name. There are occasional abbrieviations but these should be obvious, e.g., "Wyrm" = "Wyrmshadow" and "TG&FF" = TopGun & Firefox.

Now to find a site ... Gentlemen (and Ladies, if any) we're talking lots of storage room required here.

Interim methodology:

1. Find a place for the files.
2. LOOSELY organize them.
3. Publish a .rtf of all files.
4. Apply stringent posting rules as mentioned above.
5. Sacrifice goat; read entrails.

Best,

Oz

PS - Still waitin' to hear from dem Mods ...

-O.

PPS re: Pt.4 ... How to enforce? Maybe I should organize the files on my machine and parcel them out to trusted volunteers?

-O.

Ozymandias
Oct 30, 2009, 08:13 PM
:D

Attached is a list of close to all the units I have pre ~7/25/06. I say "give or take" (a) because a few could be hiding in corners somewhere and (b) some of these files are fixes, .inis, pediaicons, or possibly some other sort of file snuck in.

And, yes, I'm violating my own pseudo-methodology from the last post, in the hope that this list will spur motivations for other ideas.

At Your Service,

Oz

INTERIM PS - CAN'T !@&%!! DELETE ATTACHMENT. GO TO POST 58.

-O.

Balthasar
Oct 30, 2009, 08:42 PM
How to enforce? Maybe I should organize the files on my machine and parcel them out to trusted volunteers?

That would be my suggestion....wait, that was my suggestion. Just kidding, I support this approach.

edit: I can't open that file, can you put it in .txt format without losing information? or post it here (copy, paste) and put it in spoiler tags....

Deth McBones
Oct 30, 2009, 08:45 PM
I don't know if it's my end or not, but I'm just getting gibberish. Is that encoded differently from regular windows .doc or something?

Ozymandias
Oct 30, 2009, 09:23 PM
I don't know if it's my end or not, but I'm just getting gibberish. Is that encoded differently from regular windows .doc or something?

It's actually a ".docx". Try this one. And a .txt just in case.

-Oz

Ozymandias
Oct 30, 2009, 09:36 PM
That would be my suggestion....wait, that was my suggestion. Just kidding, I support this approach.

Yeah, I did too until I noticed that the list is 27 pages long! - 958 MB! :eek: What's the best way to do this??

Best,

Oz

Deth McBones
Oct 30, 2009, 09:53 PM
It's actually a ".docx". Try this one. And a .txt just in case.

-Oz
Ah, I see. Thanks!

georgestow
Oct 31, 2009, 04:38 AM
I'm willing to help-but I'd rather do less than more due to life things going on. Looking at the list, I notice that many of the units are still around for downloading. We'd only be uploading the ones not around-right?

Ozymandias
Oct 31, 2009, 10:10 AM
I'm willing to help-but I'd rather do less than more due to life things going on. Looking at the list, I notice that many of the units are still around for downloading. We'd only be uploading the ones not around-right?

I'm surprised about the availability - I used the earliest db date (July 2006) as a cut-off.

What you might be seeing are the first versions of units - Wyrmshadow in particular remade units until he felt he had them right.

As for duplicates (or early versions of existing units) I definitely agree - no point in re- u/l-ing those.

Best,

Oz

Ozymandias
Oct 31, 2009, 10:17 AM
:twitch: OK, so I just d/l-ed a unit from a thread from 2005.

(1) I still think the d/b should be fully restored, - but -

(2) Does anyone know definitively what date units are missing before? (Heaven knows, it's easy enough to sort my list by date, truncate, etc.)

-Oz

Ozymandias
Oct 31, 2009, 10:56 AM
OK, I've been poking around, and found, e.g., that MarineCorps did a MASSIVE re-u/l of units late 7/06-8/06.

AND the units thread goes back to 2002 ...

... A little help on methodology here, please? :crazyeye:

;) ,

Oz

Balthasar
Nov 01, 2009, 11:05 AM
Ok, here we go:

I divided the list up by author, noting where some authors are on the list for navigation purposes.

What you're looking for is the name after the = sign. That's the author of the file.
(I would like to see a convention wherein all unit rar folders are named this way - makes keeping them straight much easier)

You'll note that I started the process of checking this against the database (see Aluminium's list, for instance) - the checkmark meaning that I found it. In one case, Embryodead's Airship, it was listed in the database, but the link was bad.

This is what we should do: check this list against the database, and authors should check their own units and report back as soon as possible. The first effort will be to whittle this list down to manageable size.

p.s. I owe you an apology, Oz; this is a different project than I thought it was.

Here's the remade list, in .doc format:

233060

Oz will henceforth keep this master list, and determines what stays and what goes from it. When he gets this list down to what's not on the database, we can get about adding them, in conjunction with the author of each, if possible.

Do you agree with all that, Oz?

The Guardian
Nov 01, 2009, 02:04 PM
This could be useful:

http://www.lockergnome.com/it/2008/09/18/list-folder-contents-in-a-word-document/

Nice list Ares. Do think you could create this in XML with columns titled Creator, Unit, Era?
That way it could be sorted by each category.

Ozymandias
Nov 01, 2009, 06:01 PM
Ok, here we go:

I divided the list up by author, noting where some authors are on the list for navigation purposes.

What you're looking for is the name after the = sign. That's the author of the file.
(I would like to see a convention wherein all unit rar folders are named this way - makes keeping them straight much easier)

You'll note that I started the process of checking this against the database (see Aluminium's list, for instance) - the checkmark meaning that I found it. In one case, Embryodead's Airship, it was listed in the database, but the link was bad.

This is what we should do: check this list against the database, and authors should check their own units and report back as soon as possible. The first effort will be to whittle this list down to manageable size.

p.s. I owe you an apology, Oz; this is a different project than I thought it was.

Here's the remade list, in .doc format:

233060

Oz will henceforth keep this master list, and determines what stays and what goes from it. When he gets this list down to what's not on the database, we can get about adding them, in conjunction with the author of each, if possible.

Do you agree with all that, Oz?

Sounds like a plan to me :) although I am curious what you thought the project was :hmm: - & thanks much for your enthusiasm & labors!

Okay! - So, we need volunteers to check! And an incentive - do the checking, get the units you want! :D

I STRONGLY suggest that checkers post what they're checking here, to avoid obvious duplication of effort.

Best To All,

Oz

PS Once again, while posting, please do a complete post - at least a one line description & .jpg!

-O.

Deth McBones
Nov 01, 2009, 06:53 PM
Alright, well I've got GIDustin's Boer Rifleman and his Musket Infantry, along with Varkasas' Native American Infantry, Cavalry, Spearman and Rifleman.

Balthasar
Nov 01, 2009, 09:10 PM
Alright, well I've got GIDustin's Boer Rifleman and his Musket Infantry, along with Varkasas' Native American Infantry, Cavalry, Spearman and Rifleman.

Good effort, wrong foot: We need to know if the units on the list are in the database, not whether they're in your collection. If you meant that you will check to see if those units are in the database, it would be better to check all of GI Dustin's and Varkasas' units, if you can. If you meant that you found those units in the database, please be more clear; we're just getting started and will have to be long-winded for a minute in order that everyone understands what they're doing.

Deth McBones
Nov 01, 2009, 11:16 PM
Okay then, just to clarify my last post.
1) I could not find any of these units in the database.
2) I could not find any of these at GIDustin's site.
3) Using the forum search function, "Varkasal" yielded 2 results, both of which were from this thread.
4) To my knowledge, GIDustin did not post his units here.
5) I PM'd Oz with the small list.
6) I received the files via email.
7) I will upload the files, (which are rather skimpily fleshed out I might add, which begs the question if I should try and find the .pcxs and units_32) making sure that the ini's are in order and the folders are correctly named.

Now for my question.
I know Wyrm and others usually add a .txt for credits, and IMO I think I should do the same for these files I am uploading, perhaps with a simple "made by GIDustin" as the contents. Does that sound acceptable?
And looking back, yes that post was rather unclear. Apologies.

Ozymandias
Nov 02, 2009, 11:51 AM
Okay then, just to clarify my last post.
1) I could not find any of these units in the database.
2) I could not find any of these at GIDustin's site.
3) Using the forum search function, "Varkasal" yielded 2 results, both of which were from this thread.
4) To my knowledge, GIDustin did not post his units here.
5) I PM'd Oz with the small list.
6) I received the files via email.
7) I will upload the files, (which are rather skimpily fleshed out I might add, which begs the question if I should try and find the .pcxs and units_32) making sure that the ini's are in order and the folders are correctly named.

Now for my question.
I know Wyrm and others usually add a .txt for credits, and IMO I think I should do the same for these files I am uploading, perhaps with a simple "made by GIDustin" as the contents. Does that sound acceptable?
And looking back, yes that post was rather unclear. Apologies.

Yah, D. McB. was quick off the draw and beat out the "rules". :mischief: C'est la guerre.

Sir Deth, if I email you the rest of GID's and Varkasal's units (not many in total, I don't think) would you be kind enough to u/l them?

Also, the u/l will prompt for unit author and list your most august self as the uploader.

One last: I know some of the files in the list are fixed anims, .inis, and pediaicons. I'll try to groups these together as best I can.

Many Thanks,

Oz

Deth McBones
Nov 02, 2009, 12:00 PM
Sure, I'll take the rest of them, and if you could find some Musket Infantry pcxs and Varkasal's pcxs, that would be great.

I know the db will list the author, I just wanted to know if an internal credit was the norm. That's fine if it isn't, in fact it'll save me time and space in the db.

Ozymandias
Nov 09, 2009, 02:55 PM
Well, to quote the poet, "The best laid plans of mice and men gang aft aglee."

This doesn't seem to have caught on at all :( which is really a shame, as there are MANY units here which I suspect are otherwise unavailable.

Regardless, should you ever espy something you need / want / covet, just PM me with the unit and your email address.

First preferences (meaning how quickly I get around to it) will be given to net contributors (in whatever form) to these forums.

You know who you are ;)


So It Goes,

Oz

tom2050
Nov 09, 2009, 04:40 PM
Forget that! Let's put them up! "Can i get a hoo ha sargeant!" :)

I've been short on time lately, but I can make some time. If you go ahead and throw 100 or so units together in a zip or rar and PM me the address, I can go through them, see which are not here, and put them in the Database according to the format you have laid out. If I have any questions on anything, I'll post here, and post the first unit I place in the DB so everyone can make sure it's setup correctly.

Basic format, in addition to what is above would be:
basic unit description if available
a gif graphic if availabe (could make one for each)
if no PCX/unit32 are available I could make those also for the units based off the Storyboards (if possible).

Sound Good? It should go fairly quickly once we get started.

Tom

Ozymandias
Nov 10, 2009, 11:35 AM
Forget that! Let's put them up! "Can i get a hoo ha sargeant!" :)

I've been short on time lately, but I can make some time. If you go ahead and throw 100 or so units together in a zip or rar and PM me the address, I can go through them, see which are not here, and put them in the Database according to the format you have laid out. If I have any questions on anything, I'll post here, and post the first unit I place in the DB so everyone can make sure it's setup correctly.

Basic format, in addition to what is above would be:
basic unit description if available
a gif graphic if availabe (could make one for each)
if no PCX/unit32 are available I could make those also for the units based off the Storyboards (if possible).

Sound Good? It should go fairly quickly once we get started.

Tom

:lol: Tom, Amigo, you're the best :) Do you have size limits on your incoming email?

Rather than find an online repository for the entire (fairly large-as-measured-by-MB) collection, I'd prefer if interested parties PM me their email addresses (I just sent Ares some 20+) and either (1) preferences or (2) just an alphabet range , or "20 starting at the letter X".

@ Deth McBones - you're going to post the ones I sent you, yes ... ?

@Tom2050 - just send me a number and I'll start at the back of the alphabet and work forward (there's a method to my madness :crazyeye: )

Best To All,

Oz

Deth McBones
Nov 10, 2009, 12:14 PM
@ Deth McBones - you're going to post the ones I sent you, yes ... ?
Aye, I will be, however I'm missing just about all of the .pcxs for all of Varkasal's stuff, as well as the Musket Infantry of Dark Sheer's.

Do you think you have those? Otherwise we end up with orphaned flcs, just wishing they could be useful and loved, but instead they are exiled to the Isle of Unused Units (Christmas reference ftw?).

So what I'm trying to say that I don't know if there are still some extra files in your personal db, so I've been putting off converting the storyboard to a pcx.

tom2050
Nov 10, 2009, 08:48 PM
@Tom2050 - just send me a number and I'll start at the back of the alphabet and work forward (there's a method to my madness :crazyeye: )


I've PM'd you with my email address, let me know if you received it or not, and we'll get this show on the road. :cowboy:

Tom

Hikaro Takayama
Nov 11, 2009, 10:14 AM
I'll check my own files on the list (as soon as possible) and just re-upload them myself (if they were uploaded by me, if not, I'll just upload them as a new upload and PM the Moderators to delete the old DB post).

Ozymandias
Nov 13, 2009, 03:56 PM
Sorry All, bit of a health crisis this week.

@Deth McBones - Sorry, but the .zips etc. contain all the material I have for any one unit (unless someone else later made and posted the auxiliary files).

@Tom2050 - I'm trusting you've received my email.

@the much esteemed Hikaro Takayama: :worship:

Best,

Oz

Deth McBones
Nov 13, 2009, 05:41 PM
Sorry All, bit of a health crisis this week.
Tell me about it. One of the worst things about living at a major public college is that if somebody is sick, chances are, you're getting it. And right now something is getting passed around and: Surprise! I got it.
@Deth McBones - Sorry, but the .zips etc. contain all the material I have for any one unit (unless someone else later made and posted the auxiliary files).
Allright, then I'll try converting some storyboards. Yay...

EDIT: Okay, well my stuff is uploaded. Unfortunately looking at the anims, all of Varkasal's work needs some pallette fixing. Although, I don't know if anybody really needs them. After looking at them, I'm not sure I'm going to use them. So if anybody feels up to it, fix away.

Virote_Considon
Nov 14, 2009, 03:36 PM
I should be able to start work on this in about a week and a half.

Ozymandias
Nov 14, 2009, 08:47 PM
I should be able to start work on this in about a week and a half.

Excellent :) This all suddenly seems doable.

Best,

Oz

Ozymandias
Nov 15, 2009, 12:45 PM
Deth McBones has just brought to my attention the fact that some of the earliest units are extraordinarily sub-par compared to the work being done today.

Shall I put up a poll (to keep or not to keep) or do we just press on, with each contributor free to engage in, um, "unitsthanasia" :mischief: ?

Remember, anything in particular can always be directly requested.

Best,

Oz

Virote_Considon
Nov 15, 2009, 01:10 PM
I'd say get them all done; people may still need the units, and if the unit has been remade, the old version could still be useful to use for similar units which haven't yet been made :)

Ozymandias
Nov 15, 2009, 01:33 PM
I'd say get them all done; people may still need the units, and if the unit has been remade, the old version could still be useful to use for similar units which haven't yet been made :)

Definitely okay with me. Anybody else?

-Oz

Blue Monkey
Nov 15, 2009, 05:08 PM
I'd say don't pass aesthetic judgment for the whole community. Sounds a little too much like snobbery, if not censorship. On the other hand, if a unit just doesn't get uploaded because no one takes on the task I can't complain.

Ozymandias
Nov 15, 2009, 06:56 PM
I'd say don't pass aesthetic judgment for the whole community. Sounds a little too much like snobbery, if not censorship. On the other hand, if a unit just doesn't get uploaded because no one takes on the task I can't complain.

I'll consider that a quorum. :)

Onward,

Oz

Supa
Nov 15, 2009, 07:49 PM
I do have the Slave Girl, but I guess that's not the main subject of this thread. ;-)

I don't have any time to seriously help this project, but I used to collect a bunch of units (2002-2005 I'd guess) more-or-less organized in a few folders. If you can't find a specific unit, you can drop me a PM.

I wasn't there during this "great hack thingie", thus I might missing the point here. Are we still missing units, threads ?

Ozymandias
Nov 15, 2009, 08:35 PM
I do have the Slave Girl, but I guess that's not the main subject of this thread. ;-)

I don't have any time to seriously help this project, but I used to collect a bunch of units (2002-2005 I'd guess) more-or-less organized in a few folders. If you can't find a specific unit, you can drop me a PM.

I wasn't there during this "great hack thingie", thus I might missing the point here. Are we still missing units, threads ?

Threads are problematic to track down, but if you check the units db you'll find a cutoff date ca. 7/25/06.

Your offer is excellent, but the problem is knowing what we're missing. I largely volunteered for this project because I'm a near-obsessive unit d/l-er.

- And, "Slave Girl"? What Slave Girl? :mischief: -- Now, if you had any of GF's lhs, I might be impressed ...

;) ,

Oz

Supa
Nov 16, 2009, 07:28 AM
Threads are problematic to track down, but if you check the units db you'll find a cutoff date ca. 7/25/06.

Your offer is excellent, but the problem is knowing what we're missing. I largely volunteered for this project because I'm a near-obsessive unit d/l-er.

- And, "Slave Girl"? What Slave Girl? :mischief: -- Now, if you had any of GF's lhs, I might be impressed ...

;) ,

Oz

I'm still confused. Units are only missing on the DB, or also in their original threads ?
I've checked a few old threads (such as Jimmyh conversions) and downloads are still there.

Oh look, GF's Amazon, Cleopatra and Greek LHs are in my LH folder.. :mischief:

Ozymandias
Nov 16, 2009, 01:05 PM
I'm still confused. Units are only missing on the DB, or also in their original threads ?

The db -- It's a problem if a unit is still in its thread, but not in the db as (1) you'd have to know about the unit and (2) then search for its thread and then (3) hope it's still in the thread.

IMHO if a unit is in the db but not it's thread, that's fine. But not the reverse.

So it's reloading the db; I think simply uploading as much as we can, without duplication, is best.

- Now I have a question: quite a few units are "multi-generational", e.g., both Wyrmshadow and Vingrjoe made up to 3 versions of the same unit. - Just the latest, or all evolutionary variants?

As Ever,

Oz

Supa
Nov 16, 2009, 01:13 PM
I guess I'm a old fashioned guy who likes to explore threads and sub-forum. :) But I can see why DB is a good thing.

Ozymandias
Nov 16, 2009, 01:53 PM
I guess I'm a old fashioned guy who likes to explore threads and sub-forum. :) But I can see why DB is a good thing.

Don't worry. :) Next on my "to-do" list is to upload many links to threads which deal with modding specific issues.

Blue Monkey
Nov 17, 2009, 01:04 PM
Don't worry. :) Next on my "to-do" list is to upload many links to threads which deal with modding specific issues.wiki?
:coffee:

Ozymandias
Nov 17, 2009, 05:07 PM
wiki?
:coffee:

wackey :p

... But, seriously folks, oui, ouiki

:D

tom2050
Dec 10, 2009, 01:12 PM
Hey Oz, I started adding the units (took longer to get around to than I thought it would), but then realized that many were already in database... it seems they were added in mostly on Aug 1, 2006 by the original unit creators. There were some that were not though, in which I will add.

The database search brought them up though... if you wish, send me a copy of the list and I can go through and find which ones are/are not in the database to make it easier... so it's easier to send them over to upload to the site.

Tom

Bowsling
Jan 11, 2010, 07:56 PM
I'm not sure what exactly there is, I was not even aware a) you could mod civ or b) civfanatics existed, but do you have ancient siege weapons or ships that aren't in the db?

Ozymandias
Jan 13, 2010, 12:26 AM
I'm not sure what exactly there is, I was not even aware a) you could mod civ or b) civfanatics existed, but do you have ancient siege weapons or ships that aren't in the db?

Check post #55 for Ye List & let me know what you'd like :)

Best,

Oz

Bowsling
Jan 13, 2010, 04:23 PM
AoK_Camel_Warrior_v1.01_Fixed=JummyH+Aluminium.zip
Carthaginian_War_Elephant=DomPedroII.zip
ChineseChariot=BeBro.zip
Elephant_Archer_(Fixed)=DomPedroII.zip
firegalley.zip
FireCatapult.zip
gladiator1=Wyrmshadow.zip
KoreanTurtleShip=aaglo.zip
MinoanGalley=Aaglo.zip
Trojan_MyceneanChariot=BeBro.zip
Trireme+ram-attack=aaglo.zip

This is a lot, there is no hassle at all.
Some of the units on your list are available in the db, as discovered while uploading some units that I have that I had noticed on your list.
Thanks!