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FortyJ
Oct 18, 2002, 04:55 PM
Welcome to the New Cartographic Office of Fanatika.

Welcome. This thread is for discussions, requests, complaints and just about everything there is to do with respect to our maps.

Our official, current maps can be found in our Front Office (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34398).

Additionally, certain records (of previous discussions, etc...) are still available at our old location (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30427). Feel free to browse around.

FortyJ
Oct 18, 2002, 05:01 PM
While the cartographic demands for our fledgling nation are currently manageable with our current staff, we are looking for citizens that would be willing to assist us in the following areas:

General Mapmaking - responsible for assisting this department with the production of a variety of maps including general maps, tactical maps, political maps, resource maps, etc....
Provinces - responsible for assisting our Domestic Leader with establishing/modifying our provincial borders.
National Parks and Landmarks - responsible for managing our National Park Program and for assisting provincial governors and establishing names for key geographical features, etc....


Current Staff
FortyJ Director
Octavian X Asst Director
Cyc Cartographer
CivGeneral Cartographer
Ehecatl Atzin Parks and Landmarks
Trader/Warrior Parks and Landmarks

Stuck_as_a_Mac
Oct 18, 2002, 05:53 PM
I propose we name the Lake. It is a major landmark near Barvaria (which i own the rights to, but not the tile itself). Any sugestions?
choose Penguin Lake

Octavian X
Oct 18, 2002, 07:27 PM
You need to contact neutral leader. As Bohemian Governor, he retains all naming rights.

Cyc
Oct 18, 2002, 07:34 PM
40j - If you require any assistance putting maps together of any kind and would like my help, just let me know.

Octavian X
Oct 18, 2002, 07:38 PM
I will also continue to work for this office, even though I've given up it's leadership.

disorganizer
Oct 20, 2002, 06:30 AM
40j congrats as new office head.... i hope you continue your great work :-)

CivGeneral
Oct 20, 2002, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by Octavian X
You need to contact neutral leader. As Bohemian Governor, he retains all naming rights.

If we can find NL ;). 40J, If you need any help, let me know :).

Shabbaman
Oct 21, 2002, 04:53 AM
Hey, these maps are great! Definitely an improvement over demogame 1.

disorganizer
Oct 21, 2002, 03:27 PM
Announcement:
I got honours according to this Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33188) which reached quorum.
So due to this i am on top of the naming-coc and as such:
I name the next city "Kuhkaff"
as it will be near the cows.
(no, i didnt get any other idea. yes, its not original. no, lookup the meaning yourself)

FortyJ
Oct 22, 2002, 03:06 PM
Thanks for the post Dis. I've already updated the Registry of City Names accordingly.

Note to all citizens receiving City Naming Rights: You must post your chosen city names in this thread to guarantee registration of your name.

SpazzAttack
Oct 24, 2002, 02:12 PM
hey. I signed up to the RPG, and guess I'll be signing up here soon... depending on what your responce is:
in the RPG I wanna be a map maker. the leader there suggested I post a notice here, so... here it is :D I can help wit putting maps togethor if need be, or whatever else is requested.

Stuck_as_a_Mac
Oct 24, 2002, 02:15 PM
Forty- My poll hit quorm too. So am I next? Donsig is yet to post, so do I get the next city?

FortyJ
Oct 24, 2002, 07:36 PM
Spazzy
While we already have a few map-makers on our staff, we are always looking for additional help.

Do you have any preferences for the types of maps you would like to draw (ie, general, political, demographic, tactical, etc...) or is there a certain niche that you would like to pursue?

Also, can you provide us with a sample of your work (I recommend using the 'Upload File' feature for this and providing a link to the file in this thread).

SAaM
Congrats!
I will update the Registry immediately. I would assume that despite Donsig's position in the CoC, the fact that he has yet to provide this office with his choice of names would require him to be passed over when it comes time to name the next city.

However, Shaitan has recently been awarded an honor as well, and both he and Strider appear before you in the Registry. Nonetheless, congratulations!

SpazzAttack
Oct 24, 2002, 08:35 PM
I like the civil side of things, but all are avilable.
as for a "sample" I'm not quite sure what you mean. you can give me a task to proove my worth perhaps?

also are you in the RPG game? in that game, I'll be owning the only catrographic company I know of, so perhaps we "started the business togethor" or something? which would explain why I'm not the big cheese.

FortyJ
Oct 24, 2002, 08:51 PM
Spazzy
I am not actively involved in the RPG, but if I'm not mistaken, a position in this office would increase your RPG salary.

As far as proving your worth.... I'd suggest testing your mettle in a productive way. Two hot topics of debate currently are 1) where to place future cities, and 2) what our provincial borders are going to be. Perhaps you could try drafting a proposal or two (using a nice map for demonstration) in one of these discussions threads.

naervod
Oct 24, 2002, 11:26 PM
I would like to sign up as a cartogrpaher for this office.

Ehecatl Atzin
Oct 24, 2002, 11:41 PM
I'd like to help with the landamrk naming bit of the office! :)

Ehecatl Atzin

FortyJ
Oct 24, 2002, 11:56 PM
Ehecatl Atzin - Outstanding! Welcome aboard!

Keep in mind that, ultimately, the naming of landmarks falls upon the provincial governors.

However, this division of the Cartographic Office is responsible for assisting our provincial governors with identifying potential landmarks and assisting with the creation of polls and discussion threads.

Additionally, your responsibilities will include the management of our National Park Program, including identification of potential parks and the creation of discussion threads and polls to that affect.

Ehecatl Atzin
Oct 25, 2002, 12:05 AM
Great! thanks :) It's still a bit early in the game for National Parks, but I'll get to work on identifiying posible land marks. :)

Ehecatl Atzin

FortyJ
Oct 25, 2002, 12:09 AM
My thoughts exactly on the parks, but there's no better time than the present for getting the system in place. :)

Ehecatl Atzin
Oct 25, 2002, 12:21 AM
Yes, that is true.

EA

Cyc
Oct 25, 2002, 05:57 AM
There is a Confirmation Vote here. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?threadid=34917) this is to confirm Shaitan to the apponitment of Deputy Governor. PLEASE VOTE!

trader/warrior
Oct 28, 2002, 12:27 PM
i think we should name the two big mountain areas. so heres my proposal:



http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/mountains5.gif

"moon mountains" and "sun mountains"

Ehecatl Atzin
Oct 28, 2002, 02:27 PM
I like the idea, Trader/Warrior, but there is another mountain line that joins your Sun Montains and it seems they also descend much more into the south (by the patch of mountains coming out of the darkness)
The Moon Mountain chain seems to be complete and it does look like a moon :)

Ehecatl Atzin

Stuck_as_a_Mac
Oct 28, 2002, 03:05 PM
still say we name the lake Lake Penguin...

FortyJ
Oct 28, 2002, 11:26 PM
EA has volunteered to head up our Parks and Landmarks office which will be responsible for working closely with the governors of the respective provinces to identify potential landmarks and determine names.

Of course, it is difficult to work with the appropriate governors if we don't know which territory belongs to what province... ;)

Octavian X
Oct 28, 2002, 11:49 PM
Simply put: Cyc gets to name everything :)

Cyc
Oct 29, 2002, 01:25 AM
OK, let's just name EVERYTHING Cyc. That should cover it....

FortyJ
Oct 29, 2002, 10:15 AM
Cyc Lake, Cyc Valley, Cyc River...

It'll make my job easier :)

naervod
Oct 30, 2002, 07:32 PM
You never seemed to answer my request to join up. I would really like to help out with this office in whatever way I can.

FortyJ
Oct 31, 2002, 08:06 PM
naervod
While we already have a few map-makers on our staff, we are always looking for additional help.

Do you have any preferences for the types of maps you would like to draw (ie, general, political, demographic, tactical, etc...) or is there a certain niche that you would like to pursue?

Also, can you provide us with a sample of your work (either by providing a link to a previous post that contains a map you've drawn or by uploading a sample map and providing a link to that file in this thread).

FortyJ
Oct 31, 2002, 08:21 PM
Hear ye! Hear ye!
The Cartographic Office extends heartfelt congratulations to our new slate of Officers on their election to their respective positions. Fanatika is surely in good hands.

As a matter of housekeeping, there are several officers (and deputies) that have yet to register their city name. Of course, registration is not required, but doing so will ensure that your name is not bypassed, even if you are absent from the turn chat.

The following officers and deputies do not have a city name registered in this office:

Falcon02
Eyrei
Fionn McCumhall
Gunning1
naervod
curufinwe
Plexus - Registered!


Just a reminder to all citizens receiving City Naming Rights: You must post your chosen city names in this thread to guarantee registration of your name.

Plexus
Oct 31, 2002, 08:43 PM
I would like to name my tentative city: Plexenburg. Thanks 40. :)

eyrei
Oct 31, 2002, 10:36 PM
I would like my city name to be Palanthus.

naervod
Oct 31, 2002, 11:10 PM
I haven't drawn a map yet but will draw a map later this week. I like almost any kind of map and can help out in any way needed. However, I would especially like to help out naming land marks such as lakes, mountains, foressts, etc.

Also my city name: Naerva

FortyJ
Nov 01, 2002, 02:06 AM
naervod
The ultimate responsibility for naming landmarks rests with the provincial governors. Also, EA currently heads up our Parks and Landmarks office which will be responsible for working closely with the governors of the respective provinces to identify potential landmarks and determine names. As it's a little premature for National Parks and we have yet to establish provincial borders, I'm not sure if EA needs any assistance with this yet. Nonetheless, it's up to him to determine if and how you can help him.

As far as map-making goes, I look forward to seeing some of your work later this week.

gunning1
Nov 01, 2002, 04:39 PM
Name mine, Gunningsburg. :D

FortyJ
Nov 01, 2002, 05:07 PM
Gunning1
Got it. Thanks for registering.

----------------------------------------------------

Now, as this past session (since the last turn chat) has been rather uneventful for this office and in honor of the new term commencing, I decided to toy with some new ideas. Here's a population density map circa 825 BC. Enjoy.

Population Density circa 825 BC (208kB)
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/fanatika-tn-825bc-popdens.jpg (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/fanatika-825bc-popdens.jpg)

Note to all applicants to this office - These non-standard maps are a good way to create a position for yourself in this office. Feel free to experiment with new map ideas. The more information we can provide our citizens, the better off we'll be.

Falcon02
Nov 01, 2002, 05:11 PM
I shall Name Mine "New Falcon's Haven"

Sorry, sentimental value ;)

FortyJ
Nov 02, 2002, 10:12 AM
Falcon02
NP. I was actually expecting New Falcon's Nest. I'll update the registry.

gunning1
Nov 04, 2002, 04:14 PM
Can I change the name of the one I want to Gunningheim?

FortyJ
Nov 04, 2002, 09:14 PM
gunning1
I'll update the registry now.

Falcon02
Nov 04, 2002, 10:03 PM
Forty... Sorry to give you more work... since Strider already took "Name's Haven" I'll go with New Falcon's Nest, to reduce repitition.

FortyJ
Nov 05, 2002, 08:01 AM
Falcon
Done.

FortyJ
Nov 08, 2002, 12:28 PM
The new world map is available from the Front Office. Effective last turn chat, I have begun posting both a high resolution version and a low resolution (for the bandwidth impaired :))version of each map.

As we discover more and more of the map, I am curious if anyone is interested in other formats, including Wallpapers, actual size (ie, not zoomed), etc..

Now that we have governors (or should have them really soon), I entreat all citizens to be on the lookout for potential landmarks and future parks.

Long live Fanatika!

Danke
Nov 12, 2002, 12:06 PM
FortyJ, thanks for the reminder on naming. My naming choices still stand.

Much appreciated.

Danke
Judge Advocate

Donovan Zoi
Nov 14, 2002, 05:42 PM
FortyJ,

It has come to my attention that 3 of our cities have unicorporated land within their radius. Is it possible for you to draft a border proposal expanding those borders and post a poll on it? Please let me know if this is the proper course of action. Also, if I can assist you in any way, please let me know. Please contact donsig or myself with any questions or concerns.

FortyJ
Nov 14, 2002, 10:46 PM
Donovan Zoi
I am aware of the border problem with those cities. Unfortunately, we are required to construct our borders in a manner consistent with the underlying geographical borders (ie. mountains, rivers, etc.).

Having said that, I have contemplated this issue to some extent and I believe that the best course of action is not to expand our current borders, but rather propose some new provinces that would incorporate these cities. This would preserve the consistency with the natural terrain and have the effect of increasing the number of governors (the senate). I will have some proposals out this weekend.

CivGeneral
Nov 16, 2002, 08:43 PM
40J, Just to let you know I have been confermed to become the Deputy Govenor of Taliesin. Also I wish to change my city entry from Nar Shaddaa to Takarngrad.

Thanks :),
CivGeneral

Cyc
Nov 20, 2002, 10:12 AM
Hey 40J. I've been looking for a map that will step right up and smack me in the head saying "I'm the provincial Borders Map", but I can't find one. The closest I've come is the map that got the most votes of a map run-off poll. That's this one:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/Prov3.jpg
The Capital Province Map.
I'd like to work on a new one, or individual Province maps, or anything you'd like me to attempt, but I don't know what is currently official. Please direct me in the right direction,

Cyc

Eklektikos
Nov 20, 2002, 10:25 AM
I believe that those are indeed the official provincial borders.

Cyc
Nov 20, 2002, 10:28 AM
Thank you, Eklektikos. I also just found the border-prop-490bc map in Donsig's Provincial thread. It's much larger.

trader/warrior
Nov 20, 2002, 02:01 PM
i think you people should look at this (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36894)

Octavian X
Nov 20, 2002, 07:26 PM
FortyJ - There is a problem with the city registry. As you know, city naming follows the CoC. All the governor and deputy governor entires are incorrect.

In the Chain of Command, Governors and deputy governor's positions, as 'other elected officials,' follow the citizen registry.
For example, let's say Person A is Deputy Governor of Province 11. Person B is governor of Province 1. Person A signed the registry first. Therefore, Person A comes first in the CoC.

IIRC, the CoC would go CivGeneral, Cyc, donsig, Fionn, Plexus

You may also want to seek out chat reps, who follow the registry also.

FortyJ
Nov 20, 2002, 11:09 PM
Octavian X
Thank you for pointing out that glaring error on my part. I have corrected the Registry and believe it is current and accurate as of this posting.

Trader/Warrior
Thank you for your continued efforts in assisting our office with the daunting task of naming the many landmarks available to us. If you are interested, I would like to offer you a position in our National Parks and Landmarks department. Together with Ehecatl Atzin, you would be responsible for assisting our governors with identifying potential landmarks. Remember, our governors are ultimately responsible for the naming of landmarks.

Cyc
The map you included in your post was the map we chose for our borders. It has since been modified to include a small peninsula located just to the south of the southern province's border.

Our current world maps, which are available for download and are located in the Cartographic Front Office, now contain the provincial borders.

trader/warrior
Nov 21, 2002, 12:36 PM
thankyou! i would love to work here

FortyJ
Nov 21, 2002, 02:48 PM
Alright Trader/Warrior, I've never had a "terrorist" working for me before, so let's see how it goes.

As a member of the National Parks and Landmarks department, you are charged with assisting the provincial governors with identifying landmarks and potential national parks located within their respective domains. For now, I'll leave it up to you to determine how best to accomplish this, but I'll be happy to discuss it with you at any time.

Good luck. I look forward to adding some new names to the maps soon.

trader/warrior
Nov 21, 2002, 02:55 PM
i have just told all the provincial governors about my naming proposlas

CivGeneral
Nov 21, 2002, 04:42 PM
40J, I have noticed a spelling error on my part (*CivGeneral says "Doh!" and smacks his forehead) :crazyeye:.

I wish for my city entry to change to Tarkingrad

Ehecatl Atzin
Nov 26, 2002, 11:53 AM
The big valley?? that's the name of the thing?? How about Acuilco plains in honour of the aztecs who once lived there? or Eagle flats? how about something a bit more, um, decent? just a thought.

EA

FortyJ
Nov 26, 2002, 02:29 PM
Ehecatl Atzin
Hey, naming's not my job. I just threw together a few quick names to help facilitate discussion on the provincial border issues.

BTW, who's job is it to help the governors name landmarks? :)

CivGeneral
Nov 26, 2002, 03:05 PM
Provance Map request:

40J, can you make a map for the Rhineland Provance (aka. Far South West Province). When you are done with the map. Please PM me the link so I can place it in my Govenor thread :).

Thanks,
Grand Moff CovGeneral, Govenor of the Rhineland Provance

FortyJ
Nov 27, 2002, 02:22 PM
Provincial Maps are now available in the Cartographic Front Office (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34398).

Grandmaster
Nov 27, 2002, 04:59 PM
Hmm...... I guess I'm a little late but.....

I'd like my city name to be "Grandmastoria"

Thank you, and have a nice day.

Donovan Zoi
Nov 27, 2002, 05:04 PM
Hi FortyJ,

Please register my city name as Androbius. Thanks, and good luck in the coming elections(that is, if anyone was senseless enough to run against you!).

Cyc
Nov 27, 2002, 05:48 PM
Beautiful Provincial Maps, 40J.

FortyJ
Nov 27, 2002, 08:49 PM
Grandmaster & Donovan Zoi
Thank you for updating the registry. Let's hope that we find a use for them in the upcoming turn chat! :)

Cyc
Thanks. Ain't Photoshop cool? :cool:

Ehecatl Atzin
Nov 29, 2002, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by FortyJ

...BTW, who's job is it to help the governors name landmarks? :) [/B]

Ummm...mine? hehehe :D Well then, I propose Eagle flats as the name of those grand open spaces!

EA

Veera Anlai
Nov 30, 2002, 08:57 PM
I would like to register my city name as Pensacola :queen:
Hope I did this soon enough >_<

Civanator
Dec 04, 2002, 05:40 PM
I'd like to Register my City Name as Civanatoria

BCLG100
Dec 05, 2002, 01:59 PM
it says that in post 4 as an honoured citizen that i have named a city but i havnt actually done so

FortyJ
Dec 05, 2002, 02:12 PM
BCLG100
The rules are very clear on this issue. Even though you were entitled to name a city through both your position on the council (which you did - The Burrow) and by your honored status, you only get to name one city until every other registered citizen has named a city also.

BCLG100
Dec 05, 2002, 02:16 PM
oh yeah but what about them citizens registered but which hardly ever take part?

FortyJ
Dec 05, 2002, 04:24 PM
BCLG100
From what I understand, they have as much right to name a city as us hard working individuals, they just don't get priority on the list. I didn't write the rule, I only asked the Judiciary to clarify it two terms ago and this is what we've got. :)

trader/warrior
Dec 08, 2002, 12:10 PM
im a wery hard working individual! but i never get any large enough positions. but because i now heard what you said fortyj i would like to register a city name: Trader`s inn!

Octavian X
Dec 24, 2002, 08:00 PM
Before I'm booted out of South Doughnut's Governor's Mansion, I wil leave my mark on it by naming stuff.

The plains in the area shall henceforth be known as the Ivory Plains.
The coast of the province will ever be known as the Doughnut Coast.

I would appreciate it if all future maps are labelled with these great landmarks.

Stuck_as_a_Mac
Dec 25, 2002, 10:48 AM
I, as Governor of Rhineland, would like the following names to be known.
The river N,N or Zorgonzola is now to be known as The River Rhine (dont think thats too much to ask..)
I wish to set aside some if not most of the forest above Grandmastoria as a national Park, to be known as Wald Fanatika.
The mountain chain that encloses the province (asuming the borders are slightly expanded when the two Indian citys flip, one way or another).. Shall be known as something eventually, gimme some time.
And finally, I wish for the plains between Octavianum and Huntington to be known as The Halls of Montezuma (please check spelling)

That is all.

More to come, eventually.

Eklektikos
Jan 08, 2003, 09:54 AM
I would like to request an updated copy of this map of the North Province (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/fanatika-270ad-02-lo.jpg), as the current one is woefully out of date. Thankyou :)

FortyJ
Jan 08, 2003, 10:39 AM
Eklektikos
That map is circa 270AD and is indeed out-of-date. There is a newer version (circa 670AD) already posted in the Cartographic Front Office (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=546283#post546283).

I will be updating the provincial maps along with the official world maps again after this Saturday's turn chat. Let me know if I can be of any further assistance.

Ehecatl Atzin
Jan 08, 2003, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by Stuck_As_a_Mac
...And finally, I wish for the plains between Octavianum and Huntington to be known as The Halls of Montezuma (please check spelling)

That is all.

More to come, eventually.

It would be correctly written as Montecuzoma, since it is in nahuatl.
That is all from your friendly monument and landmark naming oficer ;)

EA

FortyJ
Jan 08, 2003, 01:15 PM
Good to hear from you again EA.

It has been so long since your last post, that I presumed you were out traveling across our fair land, meeting our people and searching for new landmarks to add to our wondrous maps.

Have you anything to report from your travels?

Ehecatl Atzin
Jan 08, 2003, 08:17 PM
Hail, FortyJ! I have returned. The world has remained much the same way since the past age, filled with its comings and goings. I've come from visiting Fanatika's southern lands as well as out southern neighbours for the current investigation the History and Lore department is doing.
The people of that province is alarmed, they have seen hoards of wild men walking thru the plains unchecked. No doubt your knights and soldiers have noticed this.
Now that all governor positions have been filled, the proper naming of landmarks, rivers, mountains and forests can begin. Saam has already begun to do thus and no doubt the rest of the governorns shall do so too :)

Ehecatl Atzin

Shaitan
Jan 09, 2003, 11:35 AM
We should begin to define provinces out of the Indian held lands. I doubt that our vengeance will be sated by simply retaking our own cities.

Chieftess
Jan 09, 2003, 11:44 AM
Looking to carve out more land already? ;) We need to go on the defensive first before we can mount a full offensive...

Shaitan
Jan 09, 2003, 11:59 AM
True, but it has taken us an extraordinarily long time to get provinces through the process this term and if we start now we'll have them done before our offensive starts taking Indian cities.

Ehecatl Atzin
Jan 11, 2003, 07:48 PM
FortyJ, I propose the mountain to the north of New PDX be called Archer Peak, in honour of the archers that stood their ground in the seige of Teotihuacan. I shall inform the feudal lord of that region of the idea and see if he bites ;)

Ehecatl Atzin

Stuck_as_a_Mac
Jan 11, 2003, 08:17 PM
The Governor complies with this request. Please put it on the map.

Shaitan
Jan 17, 2003, 10:45 AM
The borders of MAG and Southwest are incorrect on the big map. The recent border revision moved only the 4 mountain tiles to MAG. The grasslands are still part of Southwest.

FortyJ
Jan 18, 2003, 11:29 AM
Shaitan
Thank you for pointing out my error. I will correct it before the next map update.

Cheetah
Jan 18, 2003, 02:28 PM
I would like to propose a border change for the Rhineland province.

I have drawn the new border on the map in red:

http://home.online.no/~havn/files/demogame/Border%20Proposal%20Lahore.jpg

I hope this is the right place to post this... :rolleyes:

FortyJ
Jan 18, 2003, 03:35 PM
Cheetah
A worthy proposal. Although, I am opposed to such changes at this time, I will look it over carefully and post a poll on this issue within a few days.

Goonie
Jan 18, 2003, 05:19 PM
The change looks reasonable to me!

Feodor Ardent
Jan 18, 2003, 09:30 PM
As an alternative, how about starting a new province in the assimilated Indian lands? Starting with Lahore and Fukushima?

Feodor

Cheetah
Jan 19, 2003, 02:51 PM
Well I posted a bigger proposal in the Citizens forum

Cheetah
Jan 25, 2003, 12:52 PM
As I just got the desire to make some maps, I would like to join the staff of the Cartographic Office.

Cheetah
Jan 25, 2003, 08:00 PM
An updated world map from the year 1030 AD.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/fanatika-1030ad.jpg

Cyc
Jan 25, 2003, 11:19 PM
Excellent Map, Cheetah.

FortyJ
Jan 27, 2003, 02:09 PM
Cheetah
A nice map indeed. Here are some tips for future map-making projects... It would be more helpful and a bit easier for you if you turned on the gridlines (Ctrl-G) when taking the screenshots.
Also, if you look carefully, you will see that some city names and other graphical items have been cropped by your overlapping screenshots. This is very common, but can be overcome. Start at the bottom-right corner of the world and work your way left. When you reach the end, move up one row and start again at the right edge, working to the left. Allowing for an overlap of a few tiles on the top/bottom of each screenshot will greatly reduce the occurences of these cropped graphics.
Otherwise, nicely done. :goodjob:

Cheetah
Jan 27, 2003, 02:16 PM
I'll remember the grids next time i'll make a map.

About the citynames and graphical items, i hoped i had fixed those :/

will do better next time

FortyJ
Feb 05, 2003, 11:49 AM
Cheetah
I still have some maps that show a cropped city info box so don't let it bother you too much. I've just found that by starting in the lower right corner and working left and then up, I eliminate most of those problems.

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In other news...
At long last there is an official poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43633) concerning the proposed changes to the borders of Rhineland province. All citizens are encouraged to participate.

*****

I have also put out the call to all interested cartographers for future provincial border proposals on the western lands. I encourage all interested parties to participate.

In a related, yet unprecedented move, the Gold Bluff Casino is posting a 250g award to the person who drafts the winning proposal. All entries can be posted in the current discussion thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42075) or you may PM (http://forums.civfanatics.com/private.php?s=&action=newmessage&userid=3316) me with your submittals. To be fair, I will post my proposal in the thread no later than this Saturday (8 Feb) so that there is no concern about my "lifting" any of your ideas. ;) All submittals must be received no later than 15 Feb to be eligible for the prize.

I encourage all Fanatikan businesses to match this prize so that the person responsible for such a contribution to our nation is justly rewarded for his or her efforts.

Ehecatl Atzin
Feb 05, 2003, 06:30 PM
Hail FortyJ.
The History Department is conducting research on the lore and ways of life in each of our cities (yes! each of our cities..) and is in need of a Fanatikan map that encompasses the entire nation, without roads, mines, irrigation and units. It should have cities, provincial borders (but not provincial names) Can I count on the Cartographic Office on having said map? :D (pretty please :) )

EA

Stuck_as_a_Mac
Feb 05, 2003, 06:50 PM
EA- There is already a history of Cupertania. I wrote it up somewhere in the RPG a while a go.
FYI- Cupertania is Penguin.

Ehecatl Atzin
Feb 05, 2003, 07:23 PM
Cupertania is Penguin? Is that the original name of the city?

EA

Stuck_as_a_Mac
Feb 05, 2003, 07:29 PM
EA- no, its the RPG house, ran by me.

Ehecatl Atzin
Feb 05, 2003, 09:17 PM
oh

Donovan Zoi
Feb 13, 2003, 11:43 AM
Forty,

How are we doing on provincial proposals for the cities of New India? I believe that I am the only one who has submitted one to the thread and I'm sure it can be improved upon. :)

Your input on this would be appreciated. You can click on New Provinces in my sig.

Feodor Ardent
Feb 13, 2003, 12:27 PM
How are we doing on provincial proposals for the cities of New India? I believe that I am the only one who has submitted one to the thread and I'm sure it can be improved upon. I've submitted one, also, but it is being more ignored even than yours.

It is not easy being hungry for power in this country.

Shaitan
Feb 13, 2003, 12:32 PM
Just poll 'em. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. Post a poll though and they'll probably vote.

Feodor Ardent
Feb 13, 2003, 08:37 PM
Just poll 'em. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. Post a poll though and they'll probably vote. Goodness, is that legal? I'm never sure what a humble citizen can do.

FortyJ
Feb 13, 2003, 11:28 PM
I will be polling all border proposals this weekend.

FortyJ
Feb 13, 2003, 11:34 PM
The above-mentioned poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43633) concerning the proposed border redesign for Rhineland province has concluded. As a result of this poll, there will be no change to Rhineland province's borders at this time.

Shaitan
Feb 14, 2003, 06:46 AM
Originally posted by Feodor Ardent
Goodness, is that legal? I'm never sure what a humble citizen can do.
Yup, it's legal. If it's been discussed then go for the poll. You aren't responsible for making people participate in the discussion, only for making the discussion available.

Feodor Ardent
Feb 14, 2003, 08:23 AM
Yup, it's legal. If it's been discussed then go for the poll. You aren't responsible for making people participate in the discussion, only for making the discussion available. Excellent! So the only thing I have to worry about is the humiliation of being ignored or voted down out of hand.

FortyJ
Feb 14, 2003, 11:02 AM
Hold on to your hats - here it comes....

I have posted my border proposals for the western "hemisphere" in the discussion thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=775241#post775241).

I intend to post an official poll on the subjet of new provincial borders this weekend (Sunday, to be specific), so if there are any more proposals to be had, please submit them before that time.

Cheetah
Feb 15, 2003, 01:15 PM
As governor of Hafen Land I would just like to clarify that the Mountain range that stretches from the north coast and into Hafen Land is called the Shouri Mountains.

Plexus
Feb 16, 2003, 01:08 AM
Boredom is bad for plexus, good for you guys... but bad for plexus.

FortyJ
Feb 16, 2003, 01:21 AM
Excellent map Plexus. If you don't mind, I'd like very much to add it to the Cartographic Front Office thread.

Cyc
Feb 16, 2003, 02:43 AM
Yes, Plexus. Excellent Atlas. It's interesting having Colorado on the map.

Cyc
Feb 16, 2003, 03:23 AM
As Governor of The North province, I have decided on a few names for the natural terrain features in the Province.

The Mountain range stretching from SE of Dapperdan to the area South of Kuhkaff shall be named The Uncompahgre Mountains

The hills in the Northern part of the Province shall be named The Northern Hills

The grasslands and tundra between the two shall be named Cyc Valley

:cool: Thank you for the opportunity to name these natural terrain features in the great land of The North province.

Here is a little mini-map showing the terrain features with their new names.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/NPNAMING.jpg

Plexus
Feb 16, 2003, 03:43 AM
Originally posted by FortyJ
Excellent map Plexus. If you don't mind, I'd like very much to add it to the Cartographic Front Office thread.

Originally posted by Cyc
Yes, Plexus. Excellent Atlas. It's interesting having Colorado on the map.

Thanks, both of you. I have nothing against you putting the map in the front office. I used Colorado bacause State of Denver and Denver State just sounded weird.

Feodor Ardent
Feb 16, 2003, 11:08 AM
Excellent work, Plexus. Definitely time to give up on the Russian war, thought. They are out of it.

Stuck_as_a_Mac
Feb 16, 2003, 11:12 AM
Just putting a litte Taliesin Ego on the map- Penguin Wald- the forest N of Penguin.

disorganizer
Feb 26, 2003, 05:24 AM
btw i found some errorous things at our maps:

1) the hires link of the up to date map does and never did work... please correct in future posts

2) i remember seeing some governor nominations for provinces i did not find on our maps

3) maybe a map with full-colored provincial overlay would be nice (the province borders filled with the province color at 50%-70% transperancy). not as hi-res, but maybe 50% size.

4) another idea would be an "international map", with the land overlayed by national ownership coloring (fanatika, persia, japan, russia,...)

FortyJ
Feb 26, 2003, 04:29 PM
Dis
The link seems to work fine for me. I don't know how to fix it if I can't find the problem... ;) Of course, it is a rather hefty size file, and it could be an issue with your connection, but I can't speak on that with any reliability. If anyone else is experiencing problems viewing that map, please let me know by posting in this thread.

Also, expect to find some new maps, including provincial maps for our new provinces after the turn chat tonight.

A color-coded international map would be nice. I've looked into it before, but it's quite a lot of work to complete. It's definitely not something that can be done regularly, but I'll try it again at the end of the term.

disorganizer
Feb 27, 2003, 03:20 AM
i wonder if you can just "blow up" the minimap and overlay the real map with it.

to the link:
there was no link set for the big file... i used the smaller file and manually deleted the endig part and it worked :-P
10mbit should be enough bw for downloading the map, dont you think?

FortyJ
Feb 27, 2003, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by disorganizer
10mbit should be enough bw for downloading the map, dont you think?
Well, if that's all you've got... ;)

I'll triple check the link again, but the other day, I tried clicking on the image and the text below the image and they both worked for me then....
:confused:

Nonetheless, when I update the thread with current maps, I'll try to be extra sure that the link works.

FortyJ
Feb 28, 2003, 12:30 AM
New maps are up!

I've incorporated some of the landmarks added by our recent governors, too (even from some governors that did not post their landmark names in this thread... ahem, Veera ;)).

I've checked the links to the main map (both hi and lo res) and they work for me. I've also checked a few random provincial map links too. Let me know if you have any problems with any of them.

CivGeneral
Feb 28, 2003, 12:33 AM
Thanks 40J for the update :). Now I can use the updated maps for any future invasion that I am planning :D.

Cyc
Mar 06, 2003, 10:21 AM
40j, I was wondering if there was a good reason why you've left the named terrain features of The North Province Map? I realize I only had the names posted in the correct thread 11 full days before you updated the maps. Other than immaturity, is there a good reason? Let's hope that now you're a Governor, someone trashes your ideas.

I noticed you got your buddy Veera's changes in just fine.

Repeated warnings have been made. Cyc is banned for 3 days for continuing to make insulting and sarcastic posts against other players. --Shaitan

FortyJ
Mar 06, 2003, 10:31 AM
I have no idea what you're talking about Cyc. I never saw your post until just now. You can rest assured that your changes as well as Shaitan's (which were posted in the wrong thread ;)) will be added before the next update.

Feodor Ardent
Mar 06, 2003, 11:03 AM
Uhhh . . . which thread is the correct one, Mr. 40J, sir? I've got some stuff I'm working on.

Geographic Newbie

Shaitan
Mar 06, 2003, 12:02 PM
I followed the link in the Office Registry when I posted those terrain names.

CivGeneral
Mar 06, 2003, 12:58 PM
40J,

I was wondering If I can help out with the Cartographic Office, The Programs that I have to make maps (Or modify them for Other Departmen's uses) are PSP7 and I am currently Downloading the Trial Version of Photoshop.

I am interested in the General Mapmaking job, But I would specalize in other Departments needs (IE Provance proposal Maps for Domestic, Tactical Maps for Military, ETC )

FortyJ
Mar 06, 2003, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by Shaitan
I followed the link in the Office Registry when I posted those terrain names. Shaitan
No problem... I try to keep an eye on that thread too, just in case. Perhaps someone can update the link in the Office Registry?

CivGeneral
Let's see what you've got... :) The two areas you mentioned can certainly use a dedicated position within our office. Consider yourself hired, upon completion of your initial probationary period, of course. Let's see what kind of tactical map you can create for the Military Department and we'll consider adding them to the Front Office with the rest of the official maps. ;)

Shaitan
Mar 06, 2003, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by FortyJ
Shaitan
No problem... I try to keep an eye on that thread too, just in case. Perhaps someone can update the link in the Office Registry?
Just did. :)

CivGeneral
Mar 07, 2003, 12:53 AM
40J - Here is Part A of the Iroq Battle Plans that is found in Hte Military Discussion (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46752)

Link to Map http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/IrqinvasionA.jpg

Part B will come out ASAP :).

I have figured out How to do the Color Transparancies with PSP7 so it would be possible for me to do Provanial maps :).

Shaitan
Mar 07, 2003, 01:13 PM
Please adjust maps to transfer Bavaria and the Capital Province territories to The North Province. Approving Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46656)

Shaitan
Mar 07, 2003, 01:22 PM
The area immediately surrounding the city of Bavaria shall henceforth be known as Bohemia. Bohemia County, to be precise but it can be mapped as simply Bohemia.

FortyJ
Mar 07, 2003, 02:20 PM
I hope to have some updated maps this weekend (after the upcoming turn chat). I'll make sure to make all of the requested changes at that time

Chieftess
Mar 07, 2003, 03:20 PM
I'd like to help out to. Domestic is like my 3rd home. :) (Trade, Presidential...).

I have made a map of the next and last 9 (if you don't include the island) provinces. The eastern world is located here (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/Fanatika_east_1345AD.jpg).

Note: France doesn't have a name for that province, so, I'm just leaving it as France. Also, the contour lines by Avingnon and Norwich were tricky, so that border can change. Where the line turns NE by Norwich (1 NE of Norwich), that border could extend 2 tiles north (near Dover - on the SE side of both).

CivGeneral
Mar 07, 2003, 03:39 PM
I Agree with thoes Borders :).

Cheetah
Mar 07, 2003, 04:16 PM
These new provinces sounds good to me.

Dr. CC and CLS :)

Noldodan
Mar 08, 2003, 04:18 PM
Those look really good CT. And for you FortyJ, I have this. After a day or two of deliberation, I have come up with the following suggestions for the names of certain landmarks within "Lake Land." The mountain SE of Dehli will be called "Erebor" meaning Lonely Mountain, the river running through the middle of the province will be called "Nen Celeb" meaning Silver Water, the prominent jungle currently covering half the province "Aldar Nin" meaning Wet Trees, and the range of hills running North and South will be called "Emyn Ened" meaning Middle Hills (creative, huh?). Guess what language they're in! Anyway, please post anything you like (or heaven forbid, don't like) about these proposed geographical namings.

Just a couple (4) geo-namings. Still looking for ideas for a province name...

Shaitan
Mar 08, 2003, 06:30 PM
The tundra forest near Naerva shall now be known as the NaerWoods.

Octavian X
Mar 09, 2003, 01:45 AM
CT's proposal is excellent (nice intro of Asphinixia). Though, for the sake of FortyJ's sanity, I would hold off on approval for a bit until we are close to using the provinces. Remember, he has to draw all of those.

Stuck_as_a_Mac
Mar 10, 2003, 06:28 PM
Asphinxia, Asphinxia, We (and I mean we) owe our carers to thee. So crown thy FP with with ... (can anyone come up for a rhyme with this?) From Thebes to Elephante-e.

FortyJ
Mar 14, 2003, 11:06 AM
The maps have been updated in the Front Office (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34398).

I have tried to include all requests for Landmarks and such. If there is something missing, or if there is an error in the map, please let me know.

Noldodan
Mar 14, 2003, 03:27 PM
You made an oopsie. Emyn Ened should be present as the name of the hill range which Minas Alcar sits upon.

EDIT: Just noticed something. We have never place the Isle of Marathon into any province. (Just thought you would like to know...)

Chieftess
Mar 14, 2003, 03:32 PM
Lake Chieftess was the name given to the lake by the capital LONG ago...

FortyJ
Mar 14, 2003, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Noldodan
You made an oopsie. Emyn Ened should be present as the name of the hill range which Minas Alcar sits upon.

EDIT: Just noticed something. We have never place the Isle of Marathon into any province. (Just thought you would like to know...)

Yep... that one escaped me. Must've been the blurred vision and sagging eyelids at whatever-dark-thirty it was when I finished that map. ;)

I'll add it, and any others to the map on the next release.

CivGeneral
Mar 14, 2003, 04:43 PM
40J - Have you gotten around adding my name to the list in the front of the office. I have made a map earlyer :).

FortyJ
Mar 19, 2003, 02:05 PM
The Cartographic Office is officially seeking an individual (or individuals) to take on some of the responsibilities of producing the official maps and maintaining the registry of city names.

I have been doing these jobs almost single-handedly for about six months now, and it is time that I begin to find a replacement. Let me make it clear that I am not resigning. I am simply looking for some people who will be willing to assist me with some of the work (err... fun ;)) involved with this office.

I can provide the essential graphics needed to create the official maps (compass, title block, flag, borders, etc...) and will be willing to train anyone in the art of mapmaking. Some experience in a graphics program is required. Paint Shop Pro is fine, but Photoshop is recommended as I have been using that for some time and have already created several scripts to automate the necessary tasks in that program.

Octavian X
Mar 19, 2003, 04:07 PM
Since I have been recieving pay as a cartographer of this office since I had started the office, I think it only proper that I volunteer to do some registry work.

FortyJ
Mar 31, 2003, 09:37 AM
The new maps (including new Provincial maps) are available for viewing and downloading. To preserve my sanity, I opted to upload them to a subfolder of our "official" demogame website rather than use the upload feature.

You can view all of our official maps here:

http://www.civfanatics.net/~demogame/civ3/dg2/fanatika-maps.html

Hopefully, as time goes on, I'll be able to dress that page up some more. For the moment, though, I just wanted to get the essentials up and running.

We will likely also need to vote on borders for the eastern half of the world this term. As far as I know, Lady Chieftess has put forth the only proposal on these borders to date. If there are any others who wish to submit their ideas/preferences/etc, please do so within the next week so that we can resolve this matter in a timely fashion during the next term.

Paalikles
Apr 01, 2003, 03:37 PM
I would like to request that the forest near Kells form now on is known as Kellswald, as it is my right to name it as governor of that province.

Panzer
Apr 01, 2003, 04:33 PM
I would like to help out here if I can.

Sir John
Apr 04, 2003, 07:03 AM
I am completely green to this stuff and have some questions:

1. Is the whole island fanatika?
2. Is there different countrys in fanatika?
3. Is all marked with blue on the map fanatika?
4. If so, what are the other countrys and can you join them as well??

Shaitan
Apr 04, 2003, 07:22 AM
Our civilization (country) is Fanatika. We all help to run it. You can download the most recent save game here (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/Fanatika_1575AD_preturn.SAV). The maps in the map thread show how our provinces are divided (the blue lines). Our actual territory controlled is dependent on how we do with the game. We identify how land will be broken into provinces before we actually take it so we can have smooth administration when we do seize it in the actual game.

There are no other countries as we are using a single person game. If you are interested in a multi-country game you can check out the Multi-site Demo Game (http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=93).

Sir John
Apr 04, 2003, 09:02 AM
Request: A new Island has been created and I was just wondering if you could put it into the map...

Thread to the creation of the new Island: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49594

Chieftess
Apr 04, 2003, 09:26 AM
Here you go!

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/Fanatika_NewIsland.jpg

Sir John
Apr 04, 2003, 09:52 AM
Yeah there it is... :D
is it possible to actually implent that in the demogame? Is there a savegameditor wich can be used to change the maps?

Shaitan
Apr 04, 2003, 09:59 AM
No, we can't edit the actual game we're playing. You could use the regular Civ3 editor to create that island in a map so you have a picture of it.

Chieftess
Apr 04, 2003, 10:01 AM
New Island

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/New_Gem_Island.jpg

Claimed Territory

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/Gem_Island_Claimed.jpg

Panzer
Apr 06, 2003, 12:37 PM
With the plan to build new cities to fill cultural gaps, I would like to know how to make sure my city name proposal is registered. I posted it in the City Name Registrar's Office, but I do not know if it has been accepted.
Also I have seen some threads by mayors of cities, how is this possition taken and what purpose does it serve.

Chieftess
Apr 06, 2003, 01:21 PM
When there's a governor of that province, you can ask to be a mayor of that city. At the rate this game is going, the game might be finished before the red tape is.

Panzer
Apr 06, 2003, 01:22 PM
thats ok, I want to learn as much as I can so I can be more involved in the next DG.

Sir John
Apr 07, 2003, 10:20 AM
Can I come up with ideas for how to part up our newly gained land into regions...

FortyJ
Apr 07, 2003, 11:10 AM
Sir John
Oh God yes! Please do so.

Chieftess has already come up with one proposal, but it has not yet been voted on. I imagine we'll be voting on these borders within the next week or so, so please submit any proposals you may have in mind.

Keep in mind, that provincial borders must adhere to the underlying terrain whenever possible (ie. borders should follow rivers, mountains, hills, etc), and not necessarily a cities cultural borders. Other than that, though, have fun, and on behalf of the Cartographic Office, thanks for your contribution.

Sir John
Apr 07, 2003, 11:10 AM
Here is a suggestion for regions of the newly gained land.
Remember that this is my first try on something like this, and the typing and borders must be changed anyway. The names of the regions are just some suggestions I think fit very well...

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/Suggforregion.jpg

Chieftess
Apr 07, 2003, 11:19 AM
:eek: Next time, just post a link. It tends to break my browser. :) (and is hard on my modem)

In fact, it's not showing up now. If you post a link, modem users will be able to download it instead.

Sir John
Apr 07, 2003, 11:23 AM
Im sorry...

BTW: You seriously got a modem?? :)

Chieftess
Apr 07, 2003, 11:25 AM
Yes, there are STILL people with modems, like me.

In fact, could you edit your post just to have a link.

like: My suggested map (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/Suggforregion.jpg).

Not to mention, it's gonna use INCREDIBLE bandwidth whenever anyone comes to view a new post. It can cause the entire forum to slow and contribute to server busy errors (like one that just happened when typing this message).

I think this server has a 5gig a month transfer capacity (166 megs per day). Posting a 1+ meg image really eats up on server time with every view.

EDIT: Just noticed the image is 2 megs! That's kind of unnacceptable to post a huge image like that in a post. Such an image will really bog down server time. PLEASE change that image to a link.

Panzer
Apr 07, 2003, 11:42 AM
"The French Beach" looks alittle large to me compared to the other provices in the empire so far.

EDIT: sorry I ment the Beach not Kiss.

Sir John
Apr 07, 2003, 11:47 AM
Its actually pretty small, but its a little long. Thats why it seems to be to big...

Chieftess
Apr 07, 2003, 11:48 AM
Some of the provinces are too long (strips of land), and only 4-6 cities. Most provinces have 9-12 cities.

Sir John
Apr 07, 2003, 11:52 AM
Whats wrong with beeing long? Most of the provinces that we have is 4-6 citys. The only one with to little citys is the unnamed one...

Panzer
Apr 07, 2003, 11:58 AM
No, your right, its not too big.

Sir John
Apr 09, 2003, 03:40 AM
Here is my second try for a region partation and I ahve followed the terrain more now, but I do think my first one is the best... when will the vote be?

my second try (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/secondtry.jpg)