View Full Version : Whos going to win the World Series?


FionnMcCumhall
Oct 19, 2002, 04:22 AM
Im a bit biased in this as i absolutely hate the Giants, i probably wouldnt if they didnt have Barry Bonds but they do so i dont like them :p. So im going for Anaheim. They seem to have a more balanced lineup than SF does. They have at least 6 players that can do deep at any time in the game, SF they rely on Barry too much to get the longball. Alll around Anaheim wins the series in 6

gr8ful wes
Oct 19, 2002, 08:12 AM
the wild card team:D

Azale
Oct 19, 2002, 04:12 PM
Very good matchup......

but I choose the Angels.:king:

Stat Kat
Oct 19, 2002, 08:40 PM
Don't underestimate the power of the Rally Monkey...I'm going with Anaheim in 6.

FionnMcCumhall
Oct 20, 2002, 10:19 PM
*bump*

Alcibiaties of Athenae
Oct 20, 2002, 10:48 PM
No need to say *bump*, you could have mentioned the series is tied 1-1. :rolleyes:

The team that wins four will be the victor. :p

:yeah:

Ming
Oct 21, 2002, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by FionnMcCumhall
So im going for Anaheim. They seem to have a more balanced lineup than SF does. They have at least 6 players that can do deep at any time in the game, SF they rely on Barry too much to get the longball.

Anaheim players who hit 15 or more runs in the regular season:
Anderson 29
Fulmer 19
Salmon 22
Glaus 30

Giants who hit 15 or more runs in the regular season:
Bonds 46
Kent 37
Santiago 16
Bell 20
Aurilia 15
Sanders 23

Total SF home runs in the regular season =198
Total SF home runs not including Barry = 152
Total Anaheim HR's in the regular season = 152

Hmmm... So what were you saying? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Some people just don't know their baseball ;)

Chris85
Oct 21, 2002, 04:56 PM
Though, I don't really like any of these teams, the Giants will win it in game 7.

Flatlander Fox
Oct 21, 2002, 09:31 PM
I was watching last night when Bonds hit the monster shot in the ninth...

When Percival got ready to pitch to Bonds, I told my buddy that if Bonds saw a strike, he was gonna take it deep.

I was STILL awestruck when Barry calmly blasted the hell out of the ball.

Is this guy the modern Babe Ruth or what?


Angels win the series! I hope! :p

FionnMcCumhall
Oct 21, 2002, 09:35 PM
Barry is no modern day Babe Ruth

Flatlander Fox
Oct 21, 2002, 09:38 PM
To set the record straight, I am not a Bonds fan...

BUT, have you ever seen a hitter dialed in like this guy? I haven't, and I have studied baseball for a LONG time.

Bonds SHATTERED the walks record, and the Homerun record. He hit .370 this year! :eek:

If he isn't a modern day Babe, then who is?

FionnMcCumhall
Oct 21, 2002, 09:42 PM
Smaller ballparks for one. 2 i think he juicing (steroids) and 3 no way. the babe was much more media friendly than mr bonds. Maybe if bonds was more media friendly and acted like he could care less about winning the series. Barry Bonds will only be one of the greats because he could jack them out of the yard but he will never truly be one of THE greats

Flatlander Fox
Oct 21, 2002, 09:48 PM
Why do you think there is a short right field porch at Yankee Stadium aka "The house the Ruth built"?

Media friendly or not, Barry is a great hitter... He is secretly thrilled to be there, but will not be percieved as a softy...


Remember, Teddy Ballgame HATED the media, cursed the fans, and is probably one of the 5 top players EVER. :)

Ming
Oct 22, 2002, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by FionnMcCumhall
Smaller ballparks for one. 2 i think he juicing (steroids) and 3 no way. the babe was much more media friendly than mr bonds. Maybe if bonds was more media friendly and acted like he could care less about winning the series. Barry Bonds will only be one of the greats because he could jack them out of the yard but he will never truly be one of THE greats

Again you are showing your total lack of knowledge of baseball.

As to your points... smaller ballparks???? do some more homework... you have no clue what you are talking about.
As FF pointed out, Yankee Stadium was tailored to his batting stroke.

Steriods... frankly, until baseball outlaws them and starts testing for them, it's not an issue. They aren't illegal at this point in time based on Baseballs weird pollicy, so you can't hold that against him.

Media Friendly... So what... being friendly to the media has NOTHING TO DO WITH whether he is a GREAT player or not. The media has treated him like crap... and he returns the favor.

Unlike Mark McGwire who was a one trick pony, Bonds is full package. Fielding, hitting for percentage, base stealing in his youth, power, home runs... He will be one of THE GREATS of the game when his career is done, if not THE BEST. Even now, in the later part of his career, his numbers this year were simply mind numbing...

You may hate his guts, but don't let that blind you to how great of a player he is. In your first post to this thread, your statements proved to be TOTALLY wrong when you look at the statistics... Well do the same again and look at what Bonds has accomplished, and how many of the old records he has broken...

Maybe after you look them up, you will have a clue.

Personally, I think he's too full of himself and don't particularly care for him as a human being... but as a baseball player, I tip my cap to his skills and talent. I will be thrilled to tell my grand children that I was able to watch the greatest player of all time play. He is one player I will pay to watch.

FionnMcCumhall
Oct 22, 2002, 12:52 AM
Nothing you can say will change my thoughts on barry bonds and his deserving of being named one of the best players all around. His batting avaerage was high because most of his hits were HRS or doubles, couple of triples in there i beleive, His Slugging percent, thats a no issue on that one :), As for me not knowing jack about baseball your wrong. I detest everything about barry bonds. Hes selfish rude, and hes thinks hes gods gift to baseball.

But this thread isnt about barry bonds, its about who will win the series, if we want to debate barry maybe we should have an approprite thread on that, lets get it back on topic

Angels win in 6 as ive said before and i still think that the angels have a far more dangerous lineup than the giants. Im not baseing that off of stats its a personal opinion

Ming
Oct 22, 2002, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by FionnMcCumhall
His batting avaerage was high because most of his hits were HRS or doubles, couple of triples in there i beleive,


And this is not good why???? It is just more proof of how good he is.


As for me not knowing jack about baseball your wrong.


From your opening post, and everything else you have said, anybody that knows baseball would know that you have not given us any reason to prove that you do understand baseball... I see you haven't even bothered to respond to my stats showing how your opening post was not acurate in anyway ;)


Angels win in 6 as ive said before and i still think that the angels have a far more dangerous lineup than the giants. Im not baseing that off of stats its a personal opinion

Actually, if you would look at the stats, both teams are very similar in terms of slugging percentage and on base average, but then again, the Angels didn't have to let their pitchers bat through out the season. However, your opening post talked about HR's... and the Angels aren't even come close to the Giants in that category... so your personal opinion there was just incorrect, like many of your other personal opinions ;)

Alcibiaties of Athenae
Oct 23, 2002, 10:49 AM
Angels up 2-1, that Monkey is doing the job.

Bonds hit ANOTHER homer.

In 30+ years of watching baseball, I have NEVER seen a hitter this locked in.

Plexus
Oct 23, 2002, 05:39 PM
Angels in 6, I'm telling you...

Ming
Oct 23, 2002, 10:15 PM
Well... the series is tied at 2 games each... which is fine by me.
Since I really don't care who wins, I just want a good series and for it to go 7 games. Nothing better than the 7th game of a World Series... I love baseball, and I hope we get another classic series. GO 7!

Ming
Oct 25, 2002, 07:45 AM
What a blow out last night... The Giants have already tied a major league record for home runs in a WS with 12. 6 different players have hit home runs for SF. And Bonds only accounts for 3 of them. The Giants have shown they have power throughout their line up, just as they did during the regular season.

Now the only question is, will SF win in 6 games, or will I get to see a 7th game of the WS.

Plexus
Oct 27, 2002, 09:44 AM
Well, were going to game 7, gentlemen.

Ming
Oct 27, 2002, 11:38 AM
I got my wish... now I only it's a close game and not a blow out.

May the best team win, and may it be a great game.

tcjsavannah
Oct 27, 2002, 02:37 PM
I've got a bad 1986-ish feeling to tonight's game.. remember after Buckner let the ball go through his legs in game six? the Mets came out and drilled the Red Sox in game seven, like 11-0.. I think Anaheim is going to do that tonight to the Giants...

At least Bonds finally shut everybody up about his supposed playoff inability.. I bet if Bonds had as many WS appearances as guys like Derek Jeter, he'd be the new "Mr. October."

Cantankerous
Oct 27, 2002, 04:43 PM
You know, tcjsavannah, that's funny because I was thinking the same thing.

The Giants take a five run lead into the seventh inning of game 6, thinking everything is well in hand--get the champagne on ice--and then lose the game. Rob Nen giving up a two-run double to Troy Glaus is not nearly as gut-wrenching as a weak ground ball going through Bill Buckner legs, but if you're a Giant's fan it's not too difficult to see the parallell.

Ming
Oct 27, 2002, 09:21 PM
Congrats to the Angels... with their 4 -1 victory in game 7. A great series overall, and for all non Angel/Giants fans, that's all we could ask for.

Yeah... a 5 run lead in Game 6... I'm sure they were already banking on the victory. But that's why you play the whole game.

What fun... Now on to the next season... Go Cubs... (hope and stupidity springs eternal ;) )

gonzo_for_civ
Oct 27, 2002, 10:45 PM
Good job angels! :D

Good job to Troy Glaus also, series MVP...

And to bonds...GO HOME!!!

And to Dusty Bakers crying boy....THERE'S NO CRYING IN BASEBALL!!!!!!!!

FionnMcCumhall
Oct 27, 2002, 10:56 PM
all the stats in the world couldnt help the giants. too bad. goes to show stats dont mean a thing when it comes to winning a series. its all about heart something barry doesnt know about :p and the giants well not enough heart as well as they blew it. Sound Familiar oh yeah last year when the Az D-Backs beat the unhittable Rivera to win the series cuz they had heart

Cantankerous
Oct 27, 2002, 11:23 PM
See, it's things like overcoming a five-run deficit in the seventh inning that make baseball my favorite sport (unless it's my team that gives up that lead :) ). Some say baseball is boring to watch, but of all the major sports, baseball is the only one without a clock to determine the end of the game.

You go into the two minute warning of the fourth quarter in football with a big lead and the game is effectively over. With two or three minutes left in a hockey game with a 5-goal lead, your lead is pretty safe (not guaranteed, but on offense you can eat up the clock). Same in basketball.

But in baseball, as long as you still have outs to play with, you've still got time to get back in the game.

A bloop, a bleeder, and a blast can happen before you know it.

Ming
Oct 28, 2002, 01:12 AM
Well FionnMcCumhall... i noticed you stayed away from you own thread until they won, and didn't say a word for 5 days... must have been real sure of yourself ;) If the Giants had won, would you have even bothered to post?

And looking through your posts, this is the first time you mention heart. Your original arguments on long ball were proved all wrong... and SF didn't have to rely on Bonds for the majority of their home runs. So don't pat yourself on the back too hard.
You may be have been right that the Angels won, but they didn't do it 6, and they didn't win based on your initial arguments.

It's real easy to look at things in hind sight and change your argument to fit the facts of what occurd... If it truely is all about heart... why didn't you bother to mention that until after they won. ;)

Alcibiaties of Athenae
Oct 28, 2002, 12:10 PM
Have to agree with Ming, and your silly rant about "heart" vs Rivera?

He made an error on a DP ball that would have finished the D-backs, his first such mistake in FIVE World series!

And THAT gives the D-Backs heart? :rolleyes:

Ming
Oct 28, 2002, 12:57 PM
If he had come out in the beginning and said that the Angels have more heart than the Giants... I would be praising him for his keen insight... but he never said that... The things he did say at first were dead wrong. The Giant were record bound with their home runs... evenly split throughtout their line up... contrary to his argument. I'm just glad it went seven games... that's all I wanted.

tcjsavannah
Oct 28, 2002, 01:04 PM
The Giants didn't lose because they didn't have "heart".. they lost because the best bats they could come up with off the bench and at DH were hitless wonders like Shawon Dunston, Pedro Feliz and Tom Goodwin...

As soon as Goodwin pinch-hit in the sixth of game 7, I knew the Giants were toast.

Alcibiaties of Athenae
Oct 28, 2002, 01:13 PM
Dunston did hit a homer, but the Giants were just not up to it, when they blew a 5 run lead, you pretty much knew it was over, they never seemed to overcome that.

But "Heart" is ridculous, Bonds hit nearly .500, the Angels walked him what. 13 times?
Talent and depth won this eries, and the Giants were nearly equal, it was just the Angel's year, "heart" had as much to do with the win as the rally monkey did! :yeah: