View Full Version : Athena's Shield : Europes Responce to a soviet invasion.
stalin006 Oct 24, 2002, 04:58 PM Athena's Shield : Europes Responce to a soviet invasion.
This is the allied version of "October Fury:Soviet invasion of europe"
the main story is in that thread, so here i am just posting info for this scenario.
Dec 25 9:00 am London time.
Soviet forces in a collition w/ the arabs have launched an invasion against europe, Leaders of all of europe had an emergency meeting in London and created a war-time allience, also to gain time they sent a large defence force to the border cities in eastern europe and North africa (our only oil supply). The elected leader of the new allied forces has called operation Athena's shield in to effect.......to stop soviet advances and gain the tide of the war until the red menace and their allies are crushed w/ the strenght of democracy!...........altough most military genarals fear the fall of several cities in the first day of the invasion.
The US in fear of retaliation by the now superior nuclear arsenal has decided to remain neutral....for now.....and has allowed us to use their atlantic fleet, also in cojuction w/ the canadians, a somewhat strong elite expedition force has been sent.
General you must defend our only oil supply in N africa, stop soviet aggrassion and safely land the american and canadian "neutral" forces across the atlantic. conquer all soviet and arab nations.
NOTE: THIS IS A SAVED GAME, SO PLACE IT ON THE SAVED GAMES FOLDER, NOT THE SCENARIOS ONE.
PLEASE COME BACK AND TELL ME IF U LIKED THIS SCENARIO AND VOTE ON THE THREAD.
download scenario on next post
stalin006 Oct 24, 2002, 05:08 PM DOWNLOAD SCENARIO HERE
stalin006 Oct 24, 2002, 05:34 PM is it working ok?
Azale Oct 24, 2002, 05:45 PM The scenario is working perfectly.:D
BTW,I voted for the scenario of china invading Japan,U.S,etc. (I'll make it if you don't ;)
thisismysn20 Oct 24, 2002, 07:33 PM nice, but U.S. would be better
stalin006 Oct 24, 2002, 07:38 PM well then vote.........and if it is that one which is winning ill make it.....
Azale Oct 25, 2002, 01:04 PM Go Chinese invasion of Japan or other non-communist nation!!
4 votes to victory.:cool:
You could release another version from the Arab Alliance point of view, use a clever name like "Bloodshed under the Crescent Moon " or something.
stalin006 Oct 26, 2002, 06:18 AM no, cant do, i tried, but is hard to make the soviets invade europe......waht always happened is that the soviets invade the arab allience! and then allied w/ teh europeans against me!
it ruins the story, so i dont think so......plus i lost the original .BIC
thisismysn20 Oct 26, 2002, 03:36 PM How do you guys place all the cities in the right spots and make the countries actually "fit"
I don't get how to do it in the editor...
stalin006 Oct 26, 2002, 04:29 PM theres no trick, is jsut how much time u spend on it
i am an scenario veteran
u fisrt start in one place, by the coast is good, then look at the map, and look for a major city nerby and name it taht, u continue moving and moving adn ull eventually get it right.
it takes time but ull get it
Azale Oct 26, 2002, 08:03 PM stalin006, you took my trick :p
Lynx Oct 26, 2002, 11:29 PM I liked the other one, but I have an Idea for a scenatio you can make.
In the Early 1950's the Korean war raged between Communists and Capitalists with NK getting " people's volenteers " from china. What if the UN had seen that as a decleration of war on the UN from Mao zeodong? What if the world formed a coalition against them with backing and right of passage from the overthrown natoinalist leader Chiang Kai Shek on Taiwan? That would be kind of cool , perhaps you can consider it... ( If you do make it, say i gave you the idea! )
stalin006 Oct 27, 2002, 10:43 AM so is everyone beng able to play the scenario? some people are getting problems, some arent
Azale Oct 27, 2002, 02:43 PM It works for me.
stalin006 Oct 27, 2002, 04:42 PM so what do u think the scenario needs? azale (no US doesnt count)
Lynx Oct 27, 2002, 08:05 PM i finished this, winning with 4500 pts, hell yes!
thisismysn20 Oct 28, 2002, 08:41 AM But how do you make the countries culture border reflect the true borders of the countries...
stalin006 Oct 28, 2002, 03:23 PM well u use the ammount of culture each city have
thisismysn20 Oct 29, 2002, 12:08 PM Seems to me that it would be a HUGE pain in the butt, you'd have to switch civs every turn and dictate evreything else they built... what a pain in the butt =)
Pawel Mar 26, 2003, 04:56 PM I liked this scenario, but I have two comments.
1. Many city names are not spelled correctly (e.g. Risa, Gdanzk)
2. Winning is trivial.
In the first turn the armor can wipe out the units in Scandinavia. By placing some 15 mech inf in each all four border cities one makes sure that the AI fails to take even a single one of them, since it splits its forces. The damaged soviet armor can then be taken out by fresh armor units produced during the first turn. A few other minor tricks can also be done to ease victory, but the basic conclusion will be the same. Lock down and/or reduce the number of allied forces available at the beginning of turn 1.
/Pawel
Procifica Mar 27, 2003, 01:09 AM Originally posted by thisismysn20
How do you guys place all the cities in the right spots and make the countries actually "fit"
I don't get how to do it in the editor...
A better way to do it is to use Latitude/Longitude coordinates.
Sarevok Mar 31, 2003, 07:46 PM I played this and it seems kind of cool. Ive actually played the game C&C Red Alert and this scenario and the other one reminded me of that game. It would be cool if someone could make a scenario on that game because personally, I would rather see Stalin Taking over Europe than the guy in this.
stalin006 Mar 31, 2003, 07:51 PM er.........there is a scenario already....... ^_^, is called october fury:soviet invasion of europe!
Sarevok Apr 01, 2003, 07:51 PM thaats the same as this, except playing as the soviets. what I meant is that I would rather see stalin (the person) be the leader of the USSR.
Kennelly Apr 22, 2003, 04:15 PM For the first 10-15 turns I faired really good compared to what I had expected after playing October Fury.Only Warsaw,Budapest,Sarajevo,Tel Aviv and gdansk (after changing the owner 10 times) were razed,Norrkoping soon again freed.Even the Nuclear First Strike by USSR I survived fairly good and in retaliation destroyed many Red Tanks.Razed already 4 or 5 Soviet cities and Cairo.But now the oil supply is gone and soviet tanks are rolling into Germany and Italy.Don't know if I'll survive much longer.
stalin006 Apr 22, 2003, 05:24 PM wow.......u should really try the Asian version.......
i hope u win.....perhaps destroying soviet oil supply wells.....or rubber, one or two ICBM can do the job depending in some fators ;)
Sarevok May 04, 2003, 02:48 PM what is you strategy for palying this stalin?
Knight_Bond007 May 10, 2003, 07:11 AM Something kinda funny happened to me...on the 4th turn of the game, i was able to discuss again with the arab alliance...we signed peace and mutual protection at no cost...by the 5th turn the arabs did not only let alone de soviets but also betray them and declare them war.....althrough not exactilly a truning around fact so far, it has at least soften/reduced the soviets invasion on my side.
and an idea for another game : what if the invading army is the USA? from the ending of XIX century and until World War I, USA, based on the monroe doctrine of "America for the Americans",
launched invasions to practically all central and south american contries, depossed their goverments and eventually replace it with another, all of them became dictators.
What if this happen on modern time or near future?
some of you may say that is not accurate or protest for using usa as the invading ones,so i'll put as example what happened to my contry, dominican republic :
Since our independence on february 27 of 1844, we had a tense and kinda disordered pollitical enviroment, and lot of civil wars and conflicts. But we also had smart and very good presidents that brought times of peace and prosperity. Around those times military and political leaders where called "Caudillos", the have their own armed men, and fighted for the presidency and personnal issues.
To make things shorter : In 1916 the usa invaded my country on the pretext of pollitical disorder and in reclamation of pay of our debts with them....they took the finance of our ports and they leave on 1922. The president left on charge was horacio vasquez. However, a soldier supported by usa named Rafael L. Trujillo perfomed a coup d'etat on 1930. the elections for presidency on 1931 was a fraud, the opposition was attacked with terrorit tactics and withdraw. Since that time Trujillo was supported by the usa. Trujillo killed thousands of our people and more than 10,000 haitians in a genocide action. He took for himself all state-industry...by 1960 he was one of the world 5 most rich persons. He loss usa support in 1955 because trujillo formed and assasination attempt against venezuela ex-president Romulo Betancourt, how criticize him.In 1961 a complot peformed by some goverment and hig-class persons succeeded and trujillo is killed. Then USA helps to pressure trujillo remaining family to leave and with the OAS elections where perfomed. Juan Bosch win. He was a man of the people, and his constituion was too advanced for that time. Industrial-Commercial elite and military where affected, and seven month later he recieved a coup d'etat. USA did'nt complain at all.2 years of a military dictatorship called "The triunvirate".
On April 24 of 1965, the Colonel Francisco Alb. Caamano Deno realiced a coup d'etat supported by the people and several part of the army. The leaders of the PRD (Bosch political faction back then, he founded it) and Francisco itself wanted and argued that Bosch returned from the exile and finished his legal period of a little more than 3 years. Battle between triunvirate faction (only part of the army supported it) and Caamano side (most of the country) begin. Caamano was advancing quickly. But on 26th, USa invaded again, arguing communism against caamano.
On may 21 the fight ends. New elections are peformed. Balaguer winned them.
I'll leave it there (sorry for the long history explination, on the next post i'll explain some factors that i think support my idea).
Knight_Bond007 May 10, 2003, 08:00 AM Now, why do i think it reflects some modern situations?
USA pretext for both invasions : Dictatorship. When the truth is thath the goverments that the left after leaving where dictatorship. For instance, Balaguer was a dictator on the period from 1966 to 1978.
now... how can this reflect on a possible civ game, but based on modern-time?
easy : Imperialism. We saw a imperialist war on march 20th.
USA damaged their relation with most europe, russia, china, arabian contries, etc.
European Union is on his way to become a superpower organization.
And situations like north korea, syria, iran, and maybe even cuba can end in war.
So, the options are several.
Stalin006, everybod, how is the idea?
crunk munki Jul 16, 2003, 12:45 AM does ths scenario only show europe? and if it does, did you make a worldwide ww3 scenario?
stalin006 Jul 16, 2003, 07:47 AM well to make it as realistic as possible, i did one in only erurope and one in only asia, i was going to do one in the americas, and then a world map, but the CD-Rom got messed up and i cant re-install CIV3
Lynx Jul 20, 2003, 05:17 PM damn, that really sucks cuz ur scenarios are kinda fun. you cant even play civ 3 you say?
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