CET = Central European Timezone!

Hello fellow players,

I don't know if the moderators approve a thread like this, if they don't: close it.

I think it is wise to set up some nation-based player groups to be able play decent games. I say decent because a civ-game takes a lot of time and discussion about playtimes, set-ups etc... So, to encounter these things we might want to set up local player groups based on timezones, language (maybe).

Any reactions please?

ps; looking at Thunderfalls remark about clans in this (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34930) thread, we could start a Dutch PTW group :scan: , playing amongst each other or against other clans.

Thanks for comments in advance!

ERIKK :D

ERIKK, as we discussed before. I AM IN.

Hopefully I get my US order soon so that we can start thinking how we want to play it.

Originally posted by Beammeuppy
ERIKK, as we discussed before. I AM IN.

Hopefully I get my US order soon so that we can start thinking how we want to play it.

I knew I could count on you! :goodjob: Thanks!

isn't the CET timezone +1 to +3 GMT? I was wondering, cause i might play with you guys, even though i live in a -5 GMT timezone

Originally posted by Civanator
isn't the CET timezone +1 to +3 GMT? I was wondering, cause i might play with you guys, even though i live in a -5 GMT timezone

It is GMT + 1! It is possible; if we play in the evening it will be daytime at your place.

well 1+ Ill be in when I get it... am I the only person from this tiny Island that plays this game?

Originally posted by Sgt.Hellfish
well 1+ Ill be in when I get it... am I the only person from this tiny Island that plays this game?

There's more in the demogame from that tiny Island. ;)

when you guys in europe play in the evening i will be in school monday-friday unless it is a holiday or vacation.

I'm in too, yet I don't know whether I'll play a lot of games. And I think I'll only play turn based games and preferably with more than three which will take several sessions, and my experience with Civ2 is that people usually want to finish a game in one session. :undecide: But apart from that, I'm in! :)

i can finish a game in more than one session, usually though i finish in one, but those are different games, like AOK: TC

Originally posted by Matrix
I'm in too, yet I don't know whether I'll play a lot of games. And I think I'll only play turn based games and preferably with more than three which will take several sessions, and my experience with Civ2 is that people usually want to finish a game in one session. :undecide: But apart from that, I'm in! :)

I would like to play turn based too (old style) and with as much people as possible. This will (probably) take lots of time and planning. A game might can take up many sessions.... (see Narz's civ2 MP-game). Therefore setting up a strict plan (times, dates) will be neccesary (spelling??? :confused: ). I think only the die hards wanna play such games :borg: !

So, we got to find some reliable fellow die hards...!:scan:

I'm in too, no problem with multiple sessions and turn based mode, I just hope my connection is fast enough. I haven't played any MP games via internet yet (only via local networks). I have cable connection but with a 28k8 modem.

A Dutch clan is a great idea, any ideas about a name? Too bad we still have to wait about a month before we get PTW here in Holland. It will not be a very nice month with all the Americans already playing and we having to read about it on the forums. :(

Originally posted by Kemal
A Dutch clan is a great idea, any ideas about a name? Too bad we still have to wait about a month before we get PTW here in Holland. It will not be a very nice month with all the Americans already playing and we having to read about it on the forums. :(

How about the Flying Dutchmen? I Western European clan could be feasible as well.

And there will most likely be at least one Dutchman playing and posting if EBGames do their job :D

Originally posted by ERIKK
I would like to play turn based too (old style) and with as much people as possible. This will (probably) take lots of time and planning. A game might can take up many sessions.... (see Narz's civ2 MP-game). Therefore setting up a strict plan (times, dates) will be neccesary (spelling??? :confused: ). I think only the die hards wanna play such games :borg: !

So, we got to find some reliable fellow die hards...!:scan: It's doable. There have been several so-called "diplogames": Multiplayer games where diplomacy was actually involved. (One of my biggest diappointments at CFC was discovering that standard Civ2 MP games do not involve diplomacy but were played just as some other RTS game.) But to play such a diplogame you really need to agree to play at a certain time every week, or day. I tried it once with 5 and later on 4 others, but we did not succeed. :(

Anyway, I'm very glad that one is still able to multitask during Civ3, so that I'll be able to do other things when it's not my turn... :)

By the way, it's "nescessary". ;)

Folks!

This forum is growing too fast and will become a thread jungle in a few weeks. I will set up a new thread by the time the game ships in the Netherlands; the Dutch PTW thread (for all CET players). Then we can make appointsments and/or a sort of a schedule. Also, I anybody has a better plan: please let me know!

Keep an eye out in this forum!

ERIKK

Originally posted by Matrix

By the way, it's "nescessary". ;)

necessary :p

Originally posted by ERIKK
I will set up a new thread by the time the game ships in the Netherlands; the Dutch PTW thread (for all CET players).

:lol:

CET? I think we've to pick something from colonization or something. I mean, something to remember all from our former colonies (i.e. New York) who's the boss here...

Originally posted by Shabbaman


:lol:

CET? I think we've to pick something from colonization or something. I mean, something to remember all from our former colonies (i.e. New York) who's the boss here...

Ehhh, what do you mean?

ps;
CET = central european timezone

Yeah, it's more the generalization of all people in the central european timezone into the dutch clan.

Originally posted by Shabbaman
Yeah, it's more the generalization of all people in the central european timezone into the dutch clan.

Oh, yeah, I see it now! :eek:

Well..., I think entire Western Europe belongs to the Netherlands! ;)

Err Is my timezone (GMT) really gonna preclude me from GMT +1?

How about a Eurozone group for the realtime games? IF we're starting at 7pm GMT, all users should be able to join in, no?

Originally posted by JoeM
Err Is my timezone (GMT) really gonna preclude me from GMT +1?

How about a Eurozone group for the realtime games? IF we're starting at 7pm GMT, all users should be able to join in, no?

Of course, you are right! It is not clear how many people actually wanna join in by the time the game is avaiable in Europe. We might need to split up in some groups. Therefore I am planning to make a (at least one) group...

Also, I am not sure what CFC is planning to do with clans. I mean: are they gonna support it? Will there be a clan forum? Etc..., etc..

How about the Flying Dutchmen?

How About the "Dying Dutchmen"? (HEHEHEHE)

You may find yourself being "hammered" by those Dying Dutchmen, Rusty Nail, so better watch yourself. ;)

Good idea Erikk.

Sure Clint wants to join also... Looks like a big clan. Maybe we should make different clans in the same CET +/-... So we can compete with different clans in the same time zone.

Also post this on dutchciv...

I'll join too.

I say we all download the dutch mod and fill up those VOC Galleons :)

Or we can make a new dutch mod with the stoned tourist as a UU. It replaces the explorer and has flying abilities. Fits in with the flying dutchmen motive as well.

How about Pim Fortuyn or something.... Claus maybe... Or Prince Willem Bier

Maybe us Brits (English whatever) will have to set up our own clan if theres enuf support that is

I like the idea of a Dutch Clan VERY much (don't know why exactly :D ). It's time to show the world what it is like to be blown over by 'cheeseheads':crazyeye:

I hope somebody is able to come up with a little more original name (yes Flying Dutchmen makes sense, but I have seen that name A LOT)

Just some thoughts about a name:

- "The Dutch Destroyers"
- "Hollands Glorie"
- "De Oranjevereniging"

Or, to make it as Dutch as possible:

-"De Aardappeleters"

Originally posted by Kemal
-"De Aardappeleters"
I'm in for this one!!! :D :D :D
Originally posted by Cruise
necessary :p
:wallbash:

I'm in, I'm in, I'm in!!!

Hmmm, how does Ajax sound to you? :p Naah, juz kiddin. I think our name should express more strength and glory, people should fear us. :D

Hollands Glorie sounds good I think...United Dutchmen of CFC.....Dutch Union....Bundesrepublik Dutchland...oh, sorry, forget that last one....Dutch Front......Dutch Greeds.....Dutch Daredevils....Dutch Dakotas....

The "AllDutch" (sounds great don't ya think? :goodjob: ) are so far:

Kemal
Willemvanoranje
Matrix
Beammeuppy
ERIKK
Dutchciv
Propain
Shabbaman
Redwatch
Cruise

Of course when the game ships we can/will play with other CET (and more) players! Still, three weeks to go! :mad:

What will we play? PBEM goes fine as for now, looking at our lucky US fellow players! If MP can be played thru direct IP by that time, it will be a option too...


Firaxis producer Jeff Morris announced in yesterday's Apolyton chat that Firaxis is working on the second patch for PTW. The patch will address MP slowdown problem and will include a direct IP connection option which will bypass the Gamespy matchmaking.
We`re aware that the gamespy connection stuff is problematic right now and it`s the focus of our team. We`ve got a list of things that will be fixed in this patch and that along with host slowdowns are on the agenda. So far I haven`t heard of any single player issues, editor or LAN/PBEM/Hotseat issues so right now we`re focused on internet performance....

We`re looking into a list of about 5 major issues related to internet play right now. One new feature of the patch will be a direct connect IP option.

Hopefully we don't need to wait too long for the patch...

Originally posted by willemvanoranje
I'm in, I'm in, I'm in!!!

Hmmm, how does Ajax sound to you? :p Naah, juz kiddin. I think our name should express more strength and glory, people should fear us. :D


Ajax (http://www.drugstore.com/templates/brand/default.asp?brand=23551&aid=333321&aparam=Ajax) is a bleach/cleaner BTW. ;)

yeah, they saw the greatness of our football (aka soccer) club and decided to name it that way :D Just like the fire extinguishers.

Dutch Demons? :p Naah, AllDutch sound fine to me!

AllDutch has a ring to it, it has my vote.

ProPain

BTW you have a lot of posts Willem van Oranje

I know, but I'm here since january 2001, so had lots of time to post ;)

Originally posted by ERIKK


What will we play? PBEM goes fine as for now, looking at our lucky US fellow players! If MP can be played thru direct IP by that time, it will be a option too...



From what I've read so far turnless mode seems to give you really very little time to complete a turn (slowest mode 10 sec for turn 1? ), meaning you'll probably end up running your empire in a state of Dutch-... ehh Touch-and-go for the entire game.

Since (for obvious reasons :( ) I haven't been able to play PTW yet, it might not be so bad and I will give turnless mode a chance but as I see it now I would prefer turn-based and PBEM games.

I know turn-based means waiting for other players' turns but there's lots of other things to do while waiting, such as planning a long-term strategy, or (since Civ3 can be windowed) browsing the CFC forum. :D

As I've said before, I think I'll only like turn based. I don't care if I have to wait a long time. There are lots of other things to do while waiting. ;)

Personally I like the idea of a "great Dutch game". :) One game with eight of us, which undoubtly will take a lot of sessions! :jump:

It does however require a lot! We need to decide a date for every time we play and you must show up then or cancel it some time before.

Best would be to either play every evening (from 19:00 till 23:00) and cancel when someone has another appointment (or homework :rolleyes: ). That way it won't take too long. :)
Alternatively we could play every sunday evening, since usually everybody is at home at sunday evening.

Who would be willing to give it a try when we have PTW? :cool:

By the way (1), are there people here who won't buy PTW immediately?
By the way (2), I find AllDutch rather plain. :undecide: I'm still in for De Aardappeleters...

Originally posted by Matrix
As I've said before, I think I'll only like turn based. I don't care if I have to wait a long time. There are lots of other things to do while waiting. ;)

Personally I like the idea of a "great Dutch game". :) One game with eight of us, which undoubtly will take a lot of sessions! :jump:

It does however require a lot! We need to decide a date for every time we play and you must show up then or cancel it some time before.

Best would be to either play every evening (from 19:00 till 23:00) and cancel when someone has another appointment (or homework :rolleyes: ). That way it won't take too long. :)
Alternatively we could play every sunday evening, since usually everybody is at home at sunday evening.

Who would be willing to give it a try when we have PTW? :cool:

By the way (1), are there people here who won't buy PTW immediately?
By the way (2), I find AllDutch rather plain. :undecide: I'm still in for De Aardappeleters...


ASSUMPTION: you're talking PBEM here (???)

Great! I will buy it as soon as it arrives. 8 players (!), I am in! Allthough I cannot garantee every night/evening. But if we plan ahead, every week (a schedule), it must be possible to make great progress every week! Planning ahead might reduce people from last-minutel-cancelling!

I don't care about what we call it, but i thought AllDutch had everything in it and everybody understands it (it's English)...

ERIKK

I was talking turn based. (First line of my post.) ;)

Originally posted by Matrix
I was talking turn based. (First line of my post.) ;)

Yeah I saw it, but isn't PBEM turn-based too... (that's why the assumption) ;)

It's OK for me, but will be a lot more difficult to arrange (that won't hold me off nor scare me away :lol:). I have ADSL, hopefully the others have a fast connection too and direct IP must be available by then (it must be :mad: ).

As I said, I'm OK with it. Maybe we should poll it? I would like to know what the others think about it.

ERIKK

I am up for it :)

Great idea, don't care how slow the game progresses, I'll play!

It will take a lot of planning, especially with 8 people having to have time available at the same time but I'm sure that everyone can find or make some time for such an event (at least) once a week. Also, participants will have to be able to swallow some of the unfairness of civ3's combat system, or a crappy starting position.
With 8 players, there will always be someone at 8th, and thus last, position, and I assume we don't want players quitting in midgame after already countless hourts of playing and planning ahead.

Guess if it happens to me, I can always try and sign an "Aardappeleters alliance" with Matrix... :scan: ;)

Indeed, we don't want people to quit too fast. I myself never have trouble with performing bad. It's a thing I learned with the GOTM. ;)

But I think I really need to find out how PBEM works. :o

Edit: Checked! But I won't like it. Playing "live" is far more fun! :)

Originally posted by Matrix
But I think I really need to find out how PBEM works. :o

Edit: Checked! But I won't like it. Playing "live" is far more fun! :)

Read the pioneer thread, seems they have a lot of fun too me...! I don't mind playing PBEM. It looks far more manageable (allthough we have no reports about turn based :( yet) and less restricted to time/schedulling. But the game will take much longer with 8 players. That s*cks....

I guess I can play some evenings, here at the university I've got some huge download/upload capacity, so that'd make this computer a great server.

But

I'm

Very

Busy

But then again, who isn't.
Aardappeleters? That doesn't sound menacing enough.

I'm CET and currently installing PTW and looking for a PBEM game :D
I got some time today on this WE. I gotta do sum stuff for university but will check my e-mail often enough :D

Originally posted by DaEezT
I'm CET and currently installing PTW and looking for a PBEM game :D
I got some time today on this WE. I gotta do sum stuff for university but will check my e-mail often enough :D

You got it fast! Lots of us have to wait some weeks. I saw another CET-guy (from denmark, http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35871 ) had it too!

Good luck!

It arrived at the import store here in munich yesterday, but i came out of university too late, so i got it today :D
http://shop.gamezone.de/artikeldetail.asp?artnum=742725241152&sys=1&rand=0611102011
45 € aint cheap though :cry:
I'm currently playing with spain a bit. I think I'll start PBEM this WE so you guys have enough time to get PTW ;)

Just canceled my pre-order at EBGames, saving 30 bucks of shipping cost for a game that apparently needs another patch before it usable.

Doesn't change the plans however, 22-nov is marked in my agenda.

I kinda like AllDutch, but is it menacing enough? How about DutchBat? Not that those guys were menacing yet is has the sound to it.

How about DutchBad, or BadDutch? DutchBat has a bit of a negative sound since Srebrenica...

How about Dudge Dread, bringer of justice for all.

http://movieweb.com/movie/judgedredd/jd9.jpg

http://www.rareybird.com/dudge.gif

Maybe we can mix it up!

How about:
All Aardappeletende Bad Dutch Judges! ;)

Also Know As "the AABDJ-clan"! :)

Originally posted by ERIKK

All Aardappeletende Bad Dutch Judges! ;)



Sounds... funny! :lol: I guess it will require a lot of explaining to outsiders on how that name was brought up. :)

Although, as a law student nearing graduation, I'm not totally comfortable with those last three words, the situation should indeed be solved by making a compromise.

Besides, we're all Dutch, so how else could we reach a decision? ;)

Originally posted by ERIKK
Maybe we can mix it up!

How about:
All Aardappeletende Bad Dutch Judges! ;)

Also Know As "the AABDJ-clan"! :)

Hmmm, even better:

Bad Aardappeletende All Dutch Judges! ;)

Funny, huh! :goodjob:

that sounds better and more realistic. You don't wanna know how hard it can be to eat a potatoe sometimes. Especially when my mom didn't cook them ling enough...:p

Yo guys, how about Dutch Domination

On Dutchciv they like it a lot....

sounds good, but if there already is a clan named like that

Originally posted by Redwatch
Yo guys, how about Dutch Domination

On Dutchciv they like it a lot....

Right! If there is another one with that name we should not use it IMHO...

Name souds OK but isn't as funny as Bad Aardappeletende All Dutch Judges!...

ERIKK

Calls for an abbreviation like Bad All Dutch Aardappeletende Scrutinizing Scavengers.

Badass in short :ar15:

the avengers...hmmm, sounds...sweet. Dutch Thunder? Dutch Dillusion?
How about Flatlanders? Lowlanders? something like that

With only one week to go, we got to choose a name for our clan and our first game. In case their is still no turn based patch we got to make it a PBEM game. Please let us know what name you want and if your will play PBEM too! Please also state your favourite first multiplayergame over here: turnbased or PBEM.

Just to make things clear over here! :goodjob:

Dutch players so far:

Kemal
Willemvanoranje
Matrix
Beammeuppy
ERIKK
Dutchciv
Propain
Shabbaman
Redwatch
Cruise
Mlar

Name of the great Dutch game/clan:

Most Popular ones:
AllDutch
De Aardappeleters

"Dutch" ones:
Dutch Demons
Dutch Union
Dutch Front
Dutch Greeds
Dutch Daredevils
Dutch Dakotas
DutchBat
Dutch Domination
Dutch Thunder
Dutch Dillusion

Other great names:
Flatlanders
Lowlanders
United Dutchmen of CFC
The Dutch Destroyers
Hollands Glorie
De Oranjevereniging
Flying Dutchmen
BadDutch

Latest mixes/funny ones:
Bad Aardappeletende All Dutch Judges ( The BAADJ ;) )
Bad All Dutch Aardappeletende Scrutinizing Scavengers ( The BADASS -es :mischief: )
AllDutch Aardappeleters ( The AA :eek: )
Dying Dutchmen :satan: :mwaha:
Genesis :mad:

player
ERIKK

Game style
#1 Turned based
#2 PBEM
(Thus will play PBEM too!) ;)

Name clan
AllDutch

Name first game
"The first AllDutch Aardappeleters game" ( The first AA game ) ;)

player
willemvanoranje

Game style
both equal

Name clan
Lowlanders

Name first game (unimportant really, but funny)
Genesis

Player:
Kemal

Game style:
Turn-based, PBEM. Will have tot try simultaneous first before I can decide whether I'll play it.

Name clan:
De Aardappeleters, or BAADJ

Name first game:
Alldutch Aardappeleters game

Please try to use English in your posts. Thank you. :)

Originally posted by mlar
Zeg, waarom is het allemaal in het engels, als jullie het hebben over een gezamenlijke naam voor alle 'aardappeleters'? Kan toch net zo goed in het nederlands dan?

We use ONLY English on these boards! Thats the rule, it is, after all, an international forum. :cool:

Thanks for your input and I've added you to the list. :goodjob:

I don't understand what the first game name is about, but here are my statistics:

Player:
Matrix

Game style:
#1 Turn based
#2 PBEM

Name clan:
Aardappeleters

And why haven't we made a poll about the clan name? I also don't understand the use of that other thread about the clan name. But whatever.

You dutchmen must meat our Swedish (or maybe Nordic) clan, we are only 2 so far, but we will be more later.

Originally posted by Matrix
And why haven't we made a poll about the clan name? I also don't understand the use of that other thread about the clan name. But whatever.

WvO tried to make a poll saterday but he couldn't do it; it was disabled. So that's why he had made a thread without a poll. So, I made it like this. I don't like it either. But hey, it's a way to get our name. :p

Originally posted by Matrix
I don't understand what the first game name is about,

I thought I just ask everybody what they like so we don't get a discussion like this one (about the clan name) once we start the ......-game ( ;) )!

I'm sorry about any confusion!

Good idea, Grey Fox! ;)

And ERIKK, I think it's best to think of a name when the game has some body. For example: when it appears there are two main continents, it might be a good idea to call it "De kloof" or "The cleft". :) I won't make my hands dirty on the name yet. ;)

I'll only say this one once:

Agent Orange

I have to sign up as well?

Hm.

I don't actually know what I want to play, I first have to see how it functions on my machine.
As I mentioned before, the university computers are real powerhouses, so over the weekend I can probably host a game occasionally.
As for the rest, I'm all for Agent Orange, and against any clan name concerning the word 'dutch'. The main reason is that the english language has way too much possibilities of making fun of that name (i.e. 'double dutch')

player:
Shabbaman

game style:
probably:
1. pbem
2. turn based

clan:
See above.

I think we'll have to come up with a name pretty fast now, because PTW is available in the Netherlands now!

I finally got my copy of PTW today!

[party][dance][dance][dance][party]

Too bad I have lots of work on my study to do until the 6th of December :(.

Have you checked the game yet? Seems there are stil some problems with the European versions! Check http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37852 for info!

Yes we NEED a name by now! But not all have responded yet.

:cry:

There is indeed a major problem when installing 1.14f.

When the game is patched to 1.14f and you try to start the game, it starts asking for you to insert the cd in your cd-player even when it's already there, so in other words it no longer recognizes the PTW cd and therefore it is unplayable when patched.

:cry: :cry: :cry:

What are they (infogrames, firaxis)?

Dumb, stupid, ignorant, they don't care a bit????? I don't believe they did not know this would happen! :mad: At least they could have told us there would be problems when installing the patch on the European versions!

Sorry for you Kemal. Once you finally have it, it is unplayable! :(

Yes, it seems that again either Infogrames or Firaxis have decided to put a program on the market before it performs up to standards.

I guess us Europeans will just have to wait.... again. What else is new?

:mad:

Seems a lot of Dutchies are having this problem! Have not seen any (the same) reports from other nationalities yet...

And to make matters worse, installing 1.04 gives the same problems too! Now what does it say there on the box....
"What's the best way to discover the world? Play it....."
But not with this crappy package, I might add! ;)

:mad: :cry: :mad:

Started a PBEM (the DDPP-game) over at http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37889

Originally posted by Shabbaman
Agent Orange
I think that's great! Let's decide now. Any objections about "Agent Orange"? :)

Originally posted by Matrix

I think that's great! Let's decide now. Any objections about "Agent Orange"? :)

No objections Your Hounor! ;)

Originally posted by Matrix

I think that's great! Let's decide now. Any objections about "Agent Orange"? :)

No objections Your Hounor! ;)

sounds great :goodjob:

I just found this thread but would like to join the clan too! Don't care about the name, as long as I get to play some MP-games soon :)

player:
Plux

game style:
probably:
1. turn based
2. pbem
3. any :)

clan:
See above.

Agent Orange as name is fine with me.

Plux, you can still join the very first Dutch PBEM game. Check the link in ERIKK's sig. :)

?Matrix, what's wrong with your avatar?
A pity I can't join the first Agent Orange game, since:
a. I didn't acquire PTW yet, but that's scheduled for this week
b. Some TOTAL IDIOT cut the telephone wire! And since I don't play civ3 here (university) as long as my research project isn't finished, which will take another week or two, no MP for me :(

BTW, my video drivers are also messed up. My computer thinks that I don't even have a 3d card... But UT works, and civ3 does still work, so it isn't that high on my priority list.

But that crappy inmate of mine...

How on earth can you cut down the phone line? Ass...
How large are the PBEM files btw?

EDIT:
1. Don't you guys think that orange red looks a lot more orange than orange?
2. Update on the phone business: my mobile phone has died as well :cry: crappy nokia's... Anybody got a spare?
3. What's up with the patch not working and all?
4. I just managed to get a hold of myself NOT posting a firaxis rant that would most certainly have costed me a ban, so congrats on myself. I think I'm going home now to sit in a corner and weep...

Shabba, don't worry about the game ;) You can play 114f!

Great. Now all I've to do is get my phone hooked up again (and acquire PTW, minor detail)

I'm in if it's ok. I'm only an poor little Englishman, but at least I'm European :D

Where do I sign up? (or have I just done it?)

ERIKK: I'm going to have patch problems for PTW. Please PM me with any ideas (wink wink, nudge nudge).

Originally posted by anarres
Where do I sign up? (or have I just done it?)

ERIKK: I'm going to have patch problems for PTW. Please PM me with any ideas (wink wink, nudge nudge).

Aaaahhhh! Anarres please NO! We don't want a crack player spoiling the party!!!! ;)

Anarres, Shabbaman we got a game allready running. See my sig for the thread and the website (YES, we do have a website :scan: , Matrix built it :goodjob: ).

But when one of you starts a new PBEM I will join you and I am sure some of the other Agent Oranhe guys will join too! Also there might be more Brits wanna play. Rodney Sandy for instance!

If you want something :groucho: , PM me your email!

Matrix is into all kind of dubious websites. Ever visited the one with all the fanatics on it?
Still no phone at home, still no pbem...

Originally posted by Shabbaman
Matrix is into all kind of dubious websites. Ever visited the one with all the fanatics on it?
Still no phone at home, still no pbem...

But what do you think of our site? I like it!

You mean "see the faces of civfanatics?"

"Character
No characteristic occurrences yet."

:lol:

A time ago I was wondering whether or not I'd submit my image for 'the faces of cfc', but since I'd be side by side with pictures of ppl's weddings and stuff I still didn't find out.
Maybe matrix can make us a agent orange site.
Oh yeah, I think that we could have english members, as long as they denounce their own queen and take ours as their rightfull souvereign
:D

Originally posted by Shabbaman
"Character
No characteristic occurrences yet." :lol:
As a matter of fact I don't know either what he exactly means by that! Maybe it are the things under F11 (civIII). Or: at war with etc etc
Originally posted by Shabbaman
A time ago I was wondering whether or not I'd submit my image for 'the faces of cfc', but since I'd be side by side with pictures of ppl's weddings and stuff I still didn't find out. I saw your pics at your site! Shall I post some over at CFC? ;) Originally posted by Shabbaman
Maybe matrix can make us a agent orange site.
Don't know! Maybe he will? :confused:
Originally posted by Shabbaman
Oh yeah, I think that we could have english members, as long as they denounce their own queen and take ours as their rightfull souvereign. I wonder if they will do that! Let's just keep it with abandoming their national football team and start supporting oranje! :)

Originally posted by ERIKK

As a matter of fact I don't know either what he exactly means by that! Maybe it are the things under F11 (civIII). Or: at war with etc etc


No, I think this is where you can nominate ppl for 'most annoying player', 'stupidest mistake' and so on.

Originally posted by Shabbaman


No, I think this is where you can nominate ppl for 'most annoying player', 'stupidest mistake' and so on.

Hmmm, might be possible indeed. I am beginning to get curious about this ;)

Originally posted by Shabbaman
Oh yeah, I think that we could have english members, as long as they denounce their own queen and take ours as their rightfull souvereignI'll tell her you said that when we have afternoon tea today :king::queen:

With "character" I mean to describe the player's character in the game. E.g. they may be hostile, or friendly. And more importantly (for human players) whether they're to be trusted. :satan:

Overall, a description of their playing style. :king:

Yo people,

Shall I initiate another PBEM game. Seems like a second Agent Orange™ PBEM game can be easily set up as the first one has slow progress. I certainly have a feel for it, please let me know if you feel the same :)

Well ok, i'm in.... but don't start to :cry: when you're on the same distance as the first game erikk. :king:
:egypt: :egypt: :egypt:

I'm in.

All right then!

A junglebrother, a fat cow ;) and an English elite micromanager ;) are up! Who else wants to join this crazy outfit? :)

Shall we try to make it to 8 people? The DDPP game, with 6 people, has 7 (or 8) turns in 6 days which is pretty OK to me!

I'll be the Americans.

THE SECOND AGENT ORANGE PBEM™ GAME IS OPEN!

Have any map settings been decided, or are some/all of them to be random?

Knowing the map size (and any map choices) is kinda important to me when I choose a civ to play. On my own, I normally randomise everything apart from the map size.

Originally posted by anarres
Have any map settings been decided, or are some/all of them to be random?

Knowing the map size (and any map choices) is kinda important to me when I choose a civ to play. On my own, I normally randomise everything apart from the map size.

I guess if we make it to 8 civilizations, a standard map will do.

In that case can I be the Celts? I like the idea of fast swordsmen.

One question - can the UU's still be upgraded as per civ3 v1.29? The PTW civlopedia is missing the upgrade links as in the first civ3 release...

AFIAK PTW has the CIVIII 1.29f patch standard on it. But about the upgrades I am not sure.

p.s. there is now a european patch available for PTW - see the main page (sorry if this is old news to anyone)

Sent an annoucement over at Chieftess her PBEM registry thread http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=641959#post641959

When do you guys wanna start? (How long will we wait for people to join...)

I've changed my mind about being the Celts (damn early golden age messing up my game). I wanna choose again, I will re-read the new civs when I get home. (I would be the Egyptions, but that would be unfair ;))

I don't care. Choose any civ as long as nobody else has chosen it yet... :)

I'd like to join too, as long as you won't mind that I don't have that much time the first two weeks. But we probably won't start right away anyway.

I'll be Straland again (played as Babylon this time).

Hey, someone's got to make the website. :king:

Welcome Matrix! :)

Hey, someone's got to make the website.

He he! :goodjob: Well, you got the source of the other site, I guess it won't take much effort take change it a bit... :crazyeye:

I'll sign you up! :)

Since it's an Agent Orange game you're setting up, I cannot refuse. :)

I would like to play France this time.

i've asked Clint to join, he'll be signing up this evening... the civ he wants to play with the :egypt: :egypt: .... what a pitty.

But then again, he might be scared, he's not that good :suicide:

OK, can I be the Ottomans please. Can anyone give me an idea of time commitments?

Welcome Clint (in advance) and Kemal! :)

We need to know each others emailadresses. I will put them in the registry thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=641959#post641959 ).


About time commitments: just check your email every day! It will probably turn out to 1 turn a day. I can only play that turn in the evening because of work. Maybe in the weekend we will be able to play some more. Lets hold on to the turn sequence of the first Agent Orange PBEM game, that works fine to me! (If it's ok with you all)

We allready have 6 players! Only two empty spots left!

PS: Redwatch what will be your civ?
PS2: Any comments?

I'll use the same address as in the first Agent Orange game, ERIKK, so you can just copy it to the new registry for this game. :)

Erikk, I'd like to join this one too. Sign me up with Persia plz, so I can flood the world with my immortals :) . If possible I would like to play my turn during daytime.

I'd like to play just before dinner time again. :)

ProPain, won't it be easier to play this GOTM at the same time as the other one?

Can I join? (or am I too 'crack' ;))

I'd like to play Scandinavia

Hey, that would be great, Killer! :yeah:

Yo Erikk,

Like a said before in this thread: Egyptians...

Thanx

Originally posted by Redwatch
i've asked Clint to join, he'll be signing up this evening... the civ he wants to play with the :egypt: :egypt: .... what a pitty.

But then again, he might be scared, he's not that good :suicide:
Either you want to say that you or Clint will be the Egyptians. But what will the other be?

And the winner is:

the french.

Nobody ever wants to play the french, so thanks to your indecidedness (gee, that's not a word, is it?) your stuck with Joan of Arc.

I, Shabbaman, have spoken:D

(better get my phone hooked on pretty soon and beat the crap out of all of you...)

As you can see on the previous page of this thread, there are people who volunteer to play with France, namely me. :D


I am the French in this game, great Shabbaman, so maybe you can speak again differently. ;)

This game is full and is started up!

All I need is the email adresses of LT Killer M. (or should we use your geology email?).Clint has the Germans, on Redwatch's advice ;) ProPain will be first, so he has agreed to set up the game. For game info see: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=641959#post641959 :)

New turn thread: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38837

So I find an email of Erik saying that Redwatch has signed me up as the Germans. So I find a posting from Redwatch saying I'm scared, but who is playing the Egyptians?? Remember the game we played last week Red, 15500 points in a couple of turns for me????????? Who's your daddy:goodjob:

Originally posted by Clint
So I find an email of Erik saying that Redwatch has signed me up as the Germans. So I find a posting from Redwatch saying I'm scared, but who is playing the Egyptians?? Remember the game we played last week Red, 15500 points in a couple of turns for me????????? Who's your daddy:goodjob:

Well, you wanted in and Redwatch, your son, told us the Germans would be allright! You should instruct your son a bit better next time. Kick the baby :eek: Oh yeah! :)

But serious, your OK with it (my son)?

Originally posted by Kemal
As you can see on the previous page of this thread, there are people who volunteer to play with France, namely me. :D


"How you English say, 'I one more time, mac, unclog my nose in your direction', sons of a window-dresser! So, you think you could out-clever us French folk with your silly knees-bent running about advancing behavior?! I wave my private parts at your aunties, you cheesy lot of second hand electric donkey-bottom biters!"

Wow, first turn.... took me three hours....

Dear Clint (paps),

How amusing, but: you should research mathematics.... 'couse your counting is very bad. 15 what??:confused: :confused:

But, your very slow connection (550k/sec) had disconnected you. So the game stops in 3650 BC.....

Yours faithfully,


Son :king: :egypt:

tjusch

Hi everybody... I read all the thread, I'm looking for a clan to play the world with ;)

I have some question about it

1) Do you arrange realtime session or have only PBEM game?
2) I'm italian... Most of you are dutch... Are you still angry with us for the european championship semifinal? :p

Bye and just one turn to everybody!!! :lol:

We both do, i've played with Erikk (and a stu***) italian who did'nt know how to play... :cool: :lol: .
Kiddin'.

BUT: i want revenge for the semifinal:rocket2: :ripper: :rocket:
Lets try to make an appointment. I'm mostley at home this weekend. Sent me an PM or something and we'll try. Depends on your ping :goodjob: :crazyeye:

Announchment: New game at http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=653688#post653688 :)

Announcement: 4th Agent Orange PBEM game (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39352).

If any one of you "dying Dutchmen" would like a one on one short game tomorrow (Wednesday) afternoon or evening (GMT+1) contact me (tiny map, no AI).

Allright, ptw is in! Can we start another pbem?

Originally posted by Shabbaman
Allright, ptw is in! Can we start another pbem?

You can create a 5th Agent Orange game over at the PBEM thread. Use the lay out from the other games. But I see a lot of games are being started and a lot of newbe's suddely appeared!

But if you want only Agent Orange members in your game you should PM some guys first.

Well, clanmembers should team up:D

I am from Germany. Can I play? :o

Sorry for the stupid question: is there a Rome in Germany? :D ;)

My city is my rome!

Originally posted by Shabbaman
Well, clanmembers should team up:D

Yeah, that's what the clan is for! In that case you should wait a week. Lots are on holiday right now.

At Kevinicus: of course, we have allready a lot of English members among us as we speak. It is the timezone that counts! ;) You are German but live in Rome? That's nice!

First of all, "clans" are "tribes" in Civ-terms. ;) Always has been with Civ2 at least.

Secondly, the point of tribes is that people of one tribe can fight people of other tribes. I.e. 1 vs 1, 2 vs 2, etc. I wouldn't mix up diplomatic games and those type of games.......

Lets bring some order in our clan/tribe! ;)

Agent Orange™ Dutch multiplayer clan

Dutch clan members
Beammeuppy (not playing?)
Clint
Cruise (not playing)
ERIKK
Kemal
Matrix
Mlar (not playing?)
Plux
Propain
Redwatch
Shabbaman
Willemvanoranje (not playing yet!)

Non Dutch clan members
Anarres
DaEezT
Kevinicus
Lt. 'Killer' M.
Simone1974
Melifluous

Non members, playing in Agent Orange games
Black Waltz
Col
Djurre
Eklektikos
essexloony2,
Plexus
Wildfire444

Games running right now
DDPP: Dutch Disappionted PTW Players PBEM by ERIKK
2nd Agent Orange PBEM game by ProPain
3rd Agent Orange PBEM game: the commitments by ERIKK
4th Agent Orange PBEM game by Anarres
Agent Orange OCC Game (CET) by Melifluous

Originally posted by Matrix
First of all, "clans" are "tribes" in Civ-terms. ;) Always has been with Civ2 at least.

Secondly, the point of tribes is that people of one tribe can fight people of other tribes. I.e. 1 vs 1, 2 vs 2, etc. I wouldn't mix up diplomatic games and those type of games.......

Hi Matrix, we posted at the same time!

Clan/Tribe: some of us use the word tribe others clan. Doesn't matter that much IMHO.

On your second point I agree of course. Other clans/tribes have to emerge yet. Where are our opponents???? Right now we are stuck with playing each other, which isn't that bad of course! ;)

Allright, I'll wait for next week. Who's in?

Hey all...

ERIKK just pointed me this way, and it would seem that another PBEM is about to start!

Count me in PLEASE!!!

I would like to be the Americans if I could, otherwise Ottoman...

Also please add me to the Agent Orange Tribe/Club/Clan
I aint orange, true blue Brit me (Although the English are orange in game ;))

Melifluous

6th Agent Orange PBEM game

shabbaman (arabs)
melifluous (americans)
col (random)
killer (tbd)

(btw, I'll edit the post to update the list)

I'm in for another PBEM game - as long as I dont get another jungle start .... :(

Will play the Yorkies(Random)

Anybody available for an online session this sunday? Say from noon, 12:00 CET, on until dinner time or maybe later?

I'd love to play 6th Agent Orange :D

Alright, col and killer, you're in. I don't guarantee no jungle starts though:D
Random for col, and for killer the vikings? Input!

we are so popular some one has registered with agent orange as his nick!!! And he's danish ( go figure)

Hey Shabbaman,

Could we move the discussion about the AgentOrangePBEM6 to the PBEM forum?

Sure we dont need to clog this thread up with our game ;)

Melifluous

Originally posted by Melifluous
Sure we dont need to clog this thread up with our game ;)

We don't? Crap!Allright, move to this thread: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40655
I'll leave the list here as an announcement.

An update about our games:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41038

Don't we need some clan discussion?