View Full Version : GOTMers... Can You Help Me?


Marlos
Jan 12, 2010, 05:42 PM
Everyone, I have been playing GOTMs on and off since 2004. At one point, I recall a GOTM where you could start the game with any of the governments available throughout the game. :cool: But I never got to play it! :cry:

I have searched the GOTM archive but I cannot find it. :sad:

Does anyone recall which GOTM this was? I would download it and play it now, if I could only find it! Can you please help me? Does anyone remember?

Ali Ardavan
Jan 13, 2010, 10:00 AM
I do remember it. But cannot recall when it was. I am pretty sure it was prior to 2008 though.

Peaster
Jan 20, 2010, 10:16 AM
I remember a couple of games set in the modern age, that attracted old-timers like Andu Idorin and Starlifter. Maybe it was one of those ? I'd guess they were approx 2007-2008.

Just an idea - would it be worthwhile to compile an index of all the gotms [or at least the unusual ones] to answer questions like this quickly ? I know how tedious it is to search through the archives one page at a time. I wouldn't want to do it alone, but maybe we could start a thread on this if there is some interest.

Magic_gorter
Jan 21, 2010, 12:40 AM
You mean you want some kind of list with a description of the game.
It shouldn't take to long to create something like that if more people can help with it. We can make it a sticky thread so it's always easy to find. We only need to determine what kind of info we will post in the thread and how. Perhaps you have an idea Peaster (what and how we post).

Of course I want to help. I have some info of the GOTM games I made in an spreadsheet so we have that already.

Peaster
Jan 25, 2010, 11:57 AM
Magic: Great !! With 2 or 3 people involved, it shouldn't be too hard. Yes - a thread would be a good start, maybe with a few blank posts at the top, to be filled in later. I think you'd do a better job of it than I, but if you like, I could start it.

I'd mainly like a list of gotms with special maps or special rules, which would help answer questions like Marlos's above. Ex "106 starts on the pole - by Magic Gorter". We could include more info if it doesn't get too cluttered. Secondly [if possible], a list including any unusual strategies or results. For example, a one-city conquest, a finish before 1000BC, the last gotm Starlifter played, etc. Of course, everyone can add ideas.

The format ? I guess a few separate lists of gotms would be easiest. But it could look like the index of a book, or whatever.

Magic_gorter
Jan 26, 2010, 12:30 AM
I hope more people wants to help but we can start anyway. I guess it's best you start because you can only edit your own post and I can edit all posts:)

That way you will be able add things to that post and I can do the same. We should also mention which level (Warlord, Deity, etc) and perhaps the number of civs. Other helpers can put their text below the blank posts which I can copy to the right place.

Is it an idea to describe 10 GOTM games per post (so we need right now at least 11 blank posts for all 106 GOTM's)?

willemvanoranje
Jan 26, 2010, 04:24 AM
So would that look something like this (links left infunctional deliberately):

[url=http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=5025]GotM #1[/ url] - February 2001 - Emperor - Normal Map - 6 Civilizations - Raging horde barbarians - You start with 2 settlers and 4 techs

[url=http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=5025]GotM #2[/ url] - March 2001 - King - Large Map - 7 Civilizations - Raging Hordes - Accelerated Startup with Mongolians

[url=http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=5054]GotM #3[/ url] - April 2001 - Emperor - Normal map - 6 Civilizations - Raging Hordes - Bloodlust

[url=http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=5076]GotM #4[/ url] - May 2001 - Deity - Medium Map - 6 Civilizations - Restless Tribes - Starting without technologies and two settlers as the Chinese.

[url=http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=5093]GotM #5[/ url] - June 2001 - Prince - Small Map with varied land forms, a normal climate, warm temperatures and 3 billions years of age - 7 Civilizations - Raging Hordes - Starting without technologies and one settler as the Germans


Is it an idea to describe 10 GOTM games per post (so we need right now at least 11 blank posts for all 106 GOTM's)?

I'd propose doing it on a year basis... in 2001 we had 11 GotMs, since we started in February...but from that point on it were 12 I think.

One problem; I tried the links to the savegames in some of the old threads... but they're dead.

EDIT: Forget that, I see that they are ok in the archive. Guess we don't need to link to the threads then either, ey?

Peaster
Jan 29, 2010, 02:01 PM
Willem and Magic - Seems we have at least two ideas on how to do this, so far

a) A complete list of the 106 gotms in chronological order, with entries similar to willem's previous post. We could add boldface remarks to the ones with special maps, rules, etc so we can find those fairly easily. I'm just wondering if that would be too much work .... Willem, how did you get your data [cut and paste from archives ? one-at-a-time ? easy to do 106 ?]

b) A list of approx 20 special gotms, mostly after gotm 50 or so, with just a remark or two for each one. This would probably answer most Marlos-type-questions with minimal effort. If the thread becomes popular, we could expand it later.

Magic_gorter
Jan 30, 2010, 02:44 AM
I personally want to do option A. Rather have a complete list. The next 2 months I have one extra free day from work so I have a bit more time to help. With 3 persons we only have to do 36 gotm's. This could be done pretty fast.

willemvanoranje
Jan 31, 2010, 04:12 AM
I just started at the last page of this subforum and looked for the threads... 'GotM #3 here'. Shall I just do the first 30 or so next week, and send them to Peaster by PM? We can first just gather the data in the preliminary format I used, and then find ways to present the information a bit more attractively.

Peaster
Jan 31, 2010, 10:18 AM
Willem - Yes, that would be good. I have started a thread "Gotm index" and already cut-pasted the first 5 games from your post above. I think your format is fine. If you notice anything unusual about any gotm, please include a comment about that. You can send a PM, or just post the info like you did above. Thanks!

Magic_gorter
Feb 01, 2010, 12:21 AM
I will start with GotM's #61 - #92...so Peaster could do the #31 - #60

I have already a list from 93 (the first GOTM I made) till the end. Only a link to a thread and special things should be added.

Magic_gorter
Feb 01, 2010, 03:53 AM
I have updated the list with all GOTM's of 2009 and 2010. Did already some of 2008 but found out that the links to the save files are missing. I try to fix that with help from other moderators of this site.

Peaster
Feb 01, 2010, 04:01 PM
I have updated the list with all GOTM's of 2009 and 2010. Did already some of 2008 but found out that the links to the save files are missing. I try to fix that with help from other moderators of this site.

I don't think the links are too important for our index, if players can find the links in the Archive. Do you ? I couldn't cut-paste links easily from the Archive [is there some trick to that?], so those are currently missing from my #40 to #50 entries.

Maybe we should move these discussions to the gotm index thread ?

Magic_gorter
Feb 01, 2010, 11:35 PM
I opened only the threads of every gotm I put up in the list and did not used the archive. Made a special sheet in excel with code colums (like [url= ) so I could easily paste the link in it.

I tried the link to download the savefiles in the archive (current archive) but they don't work anymore. We can still make this index but I try to get the links working again....

We can discuss it in the gotm index from now.

willemvanoranje
Feb 02, 2010, 06:34 AM
Good. I think I'll do a couple of them tonight. :)

willemvanoranje
Feb 02, 2010, 01:41 PM
EDIT: click here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=351940)