I doubt it would have worked for very long, unless they went at least so far as granting them the equivalent of the later Dominion status.
The upper echelons of American society would have still pushed for independence even with representation. And remember it wasn't all about taxes or representation, restrictions on encroachment of Indian lands (Royal Proclamation of 1763 and Quebec Act) were pretty important.

I doubt it would have worked for very long, unless they went at least so far as granting them the equivalent of the later Dominion status.
The upper echelons of American society would have still pushed for independence even with representation. And remember it wasn't all about taxes or representation, restrictions on encroachment of Indian lands (Royal Proclamation of 1763 and Quebec Act) were pretty important.

Yes, and the US leaders were learning a level of independent action and thinking for themselves rather than deferring to any hereditary lords as well. So while I tend to think that, had the parliament and king granted the colonists demands, that we would have remained English longer, there's a strong argument to make that, as you say, the push for independence would still have come at some point.

Where in the US should I be trying to dispose of batteries? I have both regular and rechargeable of several types. I hear they aren't supposed to go into the trash these days. Yet I've been unable (with google help) to find an actual location in my area for disposal. Any ideas?

Is there any government official or institution you could call?

Possibly. But on the net it just says "dispose of properly, and not in the trash" without giving an actual location.

Call the local dump?

At our local dump, there's a place specifically for batteries.

You know I just realized something. People under 18 who have jobs are getting taxation without representation :mischief:

Their parents can do it for them.

You know I just realized something. People under 18 who have jobs are getting taxation without representation :mischief:

:yup: and kids as young as 5 or 6 are paying sales tax, so they are too. :mischief:

Obviously, all this talk about democracy has been just one huge LIE!!!

You know I just realized something. People under 18 who have jobs are getting taxation without representation :mischief:

Only sales tax. :p You get your income tax back if you're under 18.

Im pretty sure 147$ that I got in tax returns last year didnt come close to covering the taxes I paid.

All this sales tax sounds like good cause for a revolution to me.

I paid taxes last year and I got nothing back. But I'm in Canada so it may be different.

Another question: Why, in political brochures, do politicians often quote quotes from the rival politicians that are like 10-20 years old? (The quotes. Not the politicians.)

Well, give a specific example and it'd be easier for us.

I paid taxes last year and I got nothing back. But I'm in Canada so it may be different.

Another question: Why, in political brochures, do politicians often quote quotes from the rival politicians that are like 10-20 years old? (The quotes. Not the politicians.)

Because they want to give a false impression of the opponent to the voters.

Well, give a specific example and it'd be easier for us.

Well around time of a byelection, it was a few months ago, I (or rather, my mom) got a brochure from I think the Conservatives. And they were talking about the Liberal leader whos name I can't spell. And they were saying he supported blah blah blah because of something he said in an interview in 1997. And I think "well these politicians must never change then."

If I were the prime minister there'd be civil war. lol

Well, like Cutlass said, they're trying to make him look bad and incompetent? It wouldn't look too good if you supported something 13 years ago that ended up in complete failure...

Why was everyone so quick to recognize the independence of "Kosovo", yet no-one is prepared to do the same for poor little Nagorno-Karabakh?

Politics.

Nobody cares if they anger the Serbs by recognizing Kosovo, and it also can be seen as justification for/justified by the use of force during the Kosovo War.

As for the various groups in the southern former Soviet Republics, people generally want them as allies, both for strategic location and natural resources (Azerbaijan has significant oil and natural gas supplies).

Balkan > Caucasus.

At least the Karabakhis have won their independence. Kosovo was just prized away from Serbia.

Because it's a bunch of evil racist intolerant Christians trying to break away from honest just and loving muslims. We should invade them for their bigotry and force them back into Azerbaijan.

Lolwut

It was the Bush administration that recognized Kosova. Are you saying the the Bush administration is part of some anti-Christian pro-Islamic plot :crazyeye:?

Question: What on earth is [3+1]chan? I know that it's 4 but I'm a little too scared to google what it is if it's censored here.

Wiki it. ;) It's obviously gonna give you an article written in a safe-to-see way.

Very strange stuff.

Lolwut

It was the Bush administration that recognized Kosova. Are you saying the the Bush administration is part of some anti-Christian pro-Islamic plot :crazyeye:?

Well, Kosovo is predominantly Muslim and Serbia is overwhelmingly Christian...

Their European. The average person thinks they are Christian.

Are the saints the only team that's won the Super Bowl on their very first try? if not, then who else?

Quite a few of them. I think most of the teams that have won one didn't lose one first.

Packers, Jets, Steelers, 49ers, Giants, Bears, Ravens, Bucs, and now the Saints.

Is it normal for me to be concerned about my own ability to remain faithful, and to refrain from relationship ADD?

If something is worth believing in, it's not going to be hard to be faithful.

Is it normal for me to be concerned about my own ability to remain faithful, and to refrain from relationship ADD?

No, but it's good.

Whats the best way to get a French Canadian chick in the sack?

Sedatives? :p

Whats the best way to get a French Canadian chick in the sack?

Just go to clubs in Montreal. :mischief:

Whats the best way to get a French Canadian chick in the sack?

Say that you've both been oppressed by English speakers.

I'll be in D.C. this weekend, so besides the usual sites and museums, any recommendations on what to do in the area?

On a completely unrelated note, I'm on the verge of giving in and making a twitter. Is it worth it?

I'll be in D.C. this weekend, so besides the usual sites and museums, any recommendations on what to do in the area?



You can frolic around in the 3 feet of snow they just got.

On a completely unrelated note, I'm on the verge of giving in and making a twitter. Is it worth it?

That depends on who else you know on it. If you know people who do interesting tweets, or keep in touch that way, it's OK.

Whats the best way to get a French Canadian chick in the sack?
The same way you get every other kind of woman in the sack: lie through your teeth.

You can frolic around in the 3 feet of snow they just got.
We're getting more here tomorrow night. I love snow though, so will do.
That depends on who else you know on it. If you know people who do interesting tweets, or keep in touch that way, it's OK.

I do know a few! Should watch who I 'follow' (yes?) though, I know some people who will either be entirely made up of complaints or useless info. Trial and error then!

We're getting more here tomorrow night. I love snow though, so will do.


I do know a few! Should watch who I 'follow' (yes?) though, I know some people who will either be entirely made up of complaints or useless info. Trial and error then!

Just follow the peeps you want. And not the annoying ones.



Question: What's the end date for the winter Olympics?

I'll be in D.C. this weekend, so besides the usual sites and museums, any recommendations on what to do in the area?

Make your way to the Capitol City Brewing Company that's across the street from Union Station, and consume great food and drink. And dream about me and Dachs and Nano being unable to come because of such short notice.

That is, if you can get here at all. Two more snow storms predicted for this week. El Nino is keeping its pimp hand strong.

**** and I would be able to go too if I weren't stuck out in Loudoun County

On a completely unrelated note, I'm on the verge of giving in and making a twitter. Is it worth it?

It's basically a minimalist style of facebook.

140 char limit is ... probably about the length of this post and no more. Pretty limiting.

Is there scientific evidence that atheists exist? Also if there is can you give me ten different sources to confirm it? Thanks in advance

Make your way to the Capitol City Brewing Company that's across the street from Union Station, and consume great food and drink. And dream about me and Dachs and Nano being unable to come because of such short notice.

That is, if you can get here at all. Two more snow storms predicted for this week. El Nino is keeping its pimp hand strong.
**** and I would be able to go too if I weren't stuck out in Loudoun County
Dudes we can share the space and moment, just separated by several thousand other moments!
It's basically a minimalist style of facebook.

140 char limit is ... probably about the length of this post and no more. Pretty limiting.
Quite. But it must be great for those with an attention disorder and lazy people, so I can see the appeal.

My favouritest thing to do ever in Washington is to pop into the Capitol building and watch the house of representatives.
I like the way that I can turn up on the day and do it, but a US citizen has to book ahead of time to watch his own government.

Is there scientific evidence that atheists exist? Also if there is can you give me ten different sources to confirm it? Thanks in advance

http://www.atheists.org/
http://www.atheist-community.org/
http://www.4atheists.com/
http://www.atheistactivist.org/

Too lazy to find more :p

Scientific Evidence? You mean like demographics?

http://www.atheists.org/
http://www.atheist-community.org/
http://www.4atheists.com/
http://www.atheistactivist.org/

Too lazy to find more :p

Scientific Evidence? You mean like demographics?

I'm looking for cold hard facts that prove or disprove the existence of atheists. You see if we can't take someones word for it that a god or gods exists why should we take someones word that atheists exist?:p

Well, in the narrowest sense I cannot be sure that other people exist, let alone atheists.

However, I find I get the best results when I act as though atheists exist rather than as though they don't.

Well, does interviewing 10 people and asking them questions that prove they have no religious belief or affiliations count?

No, because they could be joking or out right lying about there beliefs. I need strong physical evidence they actually exist.

I'm looking for cold hard facts that prove or disprove the existence of atheists. You see if we can't take someones word for it that a god or gods exists why should we take someones word that atheists exist?
Is this an attempt to show that people asking for proof of religion are stupid or something?

If it is, your question is wrong.
It isn't do theistic people exist, but are they right.

No, because they could be joking or out right lying about there beliefs. I need strong physical evidence they actually exist.

If you're going to go by this logic, we can't be sure anyone is of any religious belief at all. There is no "physical evidence" to be gathered. Technically speaking, a person could be going to church every Sunday, do all his prayers, etc and still not be a Christian since we can't be sure he's actually being hones.

Can you, Mad Man, prove - with 10 actual sources - that theists exist, and aren't just people lying that they believe in God?

How does one go about finding blood in their stool? What characteristic would this blood have? Would it be bright red? What would cause this?

It literally looks like blood in your stool. Same colour as normal blood, though depending on where the bleed is it can look darker. From what I know, it should be pretty obvious

There are many things that can cause it (anything possibly causing a bleed in your GI tract.. The most common would likely be E coli poisoning.

Is it something that can be walked off or does it need to get checked out?

If it's black it's from the upper parts of the digestive system. Apparently it drags iron with it as it goes down, giving it a dark look.

Try taking a big dump and flushing the toilet. If you see the water being reddish or some poop giving off red liquid it's most likely blood.

what if there are bright reddish portions on the matter itself but not in the water or toilet paper? Could it simply be something like...say red sour worms?

I know some foods can change the colour of your excrement, but unless you have a good idea what it is and it doesn't clear up quickly you may want to get it checked.

It would be strange if that was the only symptom, though.

Blood in your stool can mean a cut in your colon which in turn means that excrement could be leaking into other portions of the body just as blood is leaking into it. For obvious reasons that is not a good thing and should be checked out immediately.

Fortunately, if this has been going on for a little bit and you don't feel like complete crap already (no pun intended) this is probably not the case. If you ate some metal or something sharp for whatever reason however, that does make it even more likely. Regardless of any of this, get it checked out man. You're probably fine but always better to be safe.

No healthcare beyond limited stuff the college provides. Will walk it off.

could be colon cancer.

or nothing at all.

If it's black it's from the upper parts of the digestive system. Apparently it drags iron with it as it goes down, giving it a dark look.

Try taking a big dump and flushing the toilet. If you see the water being reddish or some poop giving off red liquid it's most likely blood.

Why did my mom just throw the keyboard across the room when she lost a game?

Man Child
A Man Child is a fully-grown male that acts like a baby. A Man Child usually whines, complains, and thinks everything is unfair. Man Children in the workplace can be recognized as one who is always complaining about the rules and/or shows too much emotion ex. Crying.
"He was just crying at his desk, what a man child!"

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=man+child

Well, I ended up fainting from all the blood lost down the toilet. And it wasn't like I was feeling sick before. My stomach hurt a little, and the next second the world is swirling and BAM I'm lying on the floor.

Well, I ended up fainting from all the blood lost down the toilet. And it wasn't like I was feeling sick before. My stomach hurt a little, and the next second the world is swirling and BAM I'm lying on the floor.

That sounds really nice :thumbsup:

Why did my mom just throw the keyboard across the room when she lost a game?

She was trying to hit you but missed.

Are there any good antivirus programs that are free and can be put on a work computer?

Why did my mom just throw the keyboard across the room when she lost a game?
She had your college fund on it

Why did my mom just throw the keyboard across the room when she lost a game?

Your mother is a stupid, abusive, childish, fool. Once you graduate from high school, beg the army to take you in.

Well, I ended up fainting from all the blood lost down the toilet. And it wasn't like I was feeling sick before. My stomach hurt a little, and the next second the world is swirling and BAM I'm lying on the floor.

See the quack. Really.

Are there any good antivirus programs that are free and can be put on a work computer?
http://www.microsoft.com/Security_Essentials/
Microsoft do one - but I would ask your IT team first.

I can't have the latest version of Java because citibank can't deal with it.

http://www.microsoft.com/Security_Essentials/
Microsoft do one - but I would ask your IT team first.

I can't have the latest version of Java because citibank can't deal with it.

We don't have an IT team, it is contracted; I talked to them when I got the virus and they said to get something.

Once you graduate from high school, beg the army to take you in.

What would they do with a useless lump like me?

What would they do with a useless lump like me?

Aimee, you're better off washing pots and pans in the mess hall than you are living with your mother. And if you can't get them to train you for a skill, you can at least put some money aside for college or a trade school.

She lives in Canada. Socialism yo. She can get free or very subsidized and cheap university education.

a system where she would have to kill people in iraq instead truely is superior.

She's Canadian, she would only get to kill people in Afghanistan.

Karalysia: Do you mean if she didn't joint the military?
Because university (or college) education are definitely not free, and even when subsidized it isn't cheap (as my bank account can bear witness to).

She's Canadian, she would only get to kill people in Afghanistan.

Karalysia: Do you mean if she didn't joint the military?
Because university (or college) education are definitely not free, and even when subsidized it isn't cheap (as my bank account can bear witness to).

It's cheap compared to the US. Let me guess your tution, $4,000-6,000 a year? $10,000 max. A load of my friends go to Canadian uni's and they pay less than half of what I pay at my public uni. My fee's which theoretically should be less than private colleges are on par with them for the most part and are massive. Verging from $18,000-20,000 a year and steadily increasing as the state's budget deficit and debt increases and the education budget gets cut.

And then if I get into a half decent law school I'll probably end up with twice that amount a year.

By the time I graduate from undergrad and law school I will be $100,000-150,000 in debt.

Canada is a wonderland in comparison.

She lives in Canada. Socialism yo. She can get free or very subsidized and cheap university education.

Nope. Not unless you're very, very, very smart and can do 100000000000000000 extracurriculars, then you get scholarships and stuff. I'm stupid.

There's also student loan. I stay away from that.

Are there any good antivirus programs that are free and can be put on a work computer?

I use the avira free version and it been great: avira.com

It is for a single computer.

There's also student loan. I stay away from that.


Why would you do that?

Are there any good antivirus programs that are free and can be put on a work computer?


AVG and Avast. Plus Malwarebytes and CCleaner.

I have Malwarebytes, I thought it just did a sweep of existing files. I also downloaded Avira but someone implied it is a violation of terms to use it on a work-type computer.

That sounds really nice :thumbsup:

See the quack. Really.

Yeah. The nurses at SÖS are nice people :) Though they were a little slowish.


Why did my mom just throw the keyboard across the room when she lost a game?

She has anger management issues.

Nope. Not unless you're very, very, very smart and can do 100000000000000000 extracurriculars, then you get scholarships and stuff. I'm stupid.

There's also student loan. I stay away from that.

I'm sure you're good with computers.

I'm sure you're good with computers.

Unfortunately that does jack when it comes to scholarships. If it did something...anything...I'd be swimming in money.

Yeah. The nurses at SÖS are nice people :) Though they were a little slowish.

Sös is a great hospital!

If my mother hadn't been there with me and hadn't screamed "HELP!!!", I would've probably been found several times lying passed out on the hospital floor :lol: I fainted several times there.

Sordid affairs.

Well, if the person is smart s/he puts the person on his/her block list.

In hindsight not the best idea.

Why would you do that?

My mom got one and they suddenly made the interest go up very high and she's never been able to pay it. :(

EDIT: Strange thing. I recently wrote to the letter of the editor of a local newspaper where I mentioned the poor condition of the road. Now, today, I got the official newsletter for our town. They put it out once a month. And in the newsletter, they mention about how they patch up the roads and stuff. I've never seen this before, do you suppose it's a coincidence?

Could be. Could be more than one person complained about it. Could be no one from the town noticed it until you called it to their attention.

Does anyone watch Breaking Bad? Watched the first season over the last couple of days. Great series, I don't get why Bryan Cranston isn't in more stuff. Although he is a bit too much of a character actor for slightly crazy middle aged people. But who doesn't like middle age crisis stories?

Say that you've both been oppressed by English speakers.

A good suggestion actually, as shes a language teacher.

I've started exercising every day since 5 days ago. Everytime I finish my calf and some random muscle which is like under my shin or something lock up and contract. When I touch my leg it feels like I'm tensing up but I'm not - it feels like its on the edge of cramping up. I tried extra emphasis on warming those muscles up but it doesn't seem to work. I can run ok and but at the end it is uncomfortable and I don't want to ruin my leg.

Any thoughts on how I can avoid this?

How far up the Hudson River is the water salty?

Why is Random Raves in a picture archive category?

I've started exercising every day since 5 days ago. Everytime I finish my calf and some random muscle which is like under my shin or something lock up and contract. When I touch my leg it feels like I'm tensing up but I'm not - it feels like its on the edge of cramping up. I tried extra emphasis on warming those muscles up but it doesn't seem to work. I can run ok and but at the end it is uncomfortable and I don't want to ruin my leg.

Any thoughts on how I can avoid this?
You're either not stretching and warming up enough or exercising those muscles too much or in the wrong way. I went swimming for the first time since high school today, and my calves also cramped up from treading water. My calves are probably the most well-developed muscle in my body, but they're simply not used to that much of that particular exercise. Try changing the exercises you're doing for your calves, and if that doesn't help, simply do less exercise on that body part, slowly increasing the amount you do until you can do your current level without pain.

Try changing the exercises you're doing for your calves, and if that doesn't help, simply do less exercise on that body part, slowly increasing the amount you do until you can do your current level without as much pain.

fixed.

it's not excersize if you don't feel pain, man.

fixed.

it's not excersize if you don't feel pain, man.
"No pain, no gain" is often misunderstood. You don't want your muscles to hurt, you want them to tire. Ideally, he'd be unable to life a weight because his muscle no longer had the strength for it, but that's not the same as pain.

You do want to be exhausted. But you also should be sore

You do want to be exhausted. But you also should be sore
Sore, yes. As in muscle tiredness. :p

But isn't it the small tears in muscle tissue that make it grow much larger (read: building muscle) after healing?

Why is Random Raves in a picture archive category?

That's where OT threads with the turncount removed go when they are finished. If we didn't do this, then Rant and Rave threads would have to be much more strictly moderated for spam than they are.

No, muscle tears are a bad thing. Muscles grow because straining them releases growth signals. This happens without tearing muscle. The tiredness shows that lactic acid did build up, and that there was oxygen shortage. This is proof that growth signals stimulated by such metabolites and situations will have been generated.

Are there any arguments against starting to gym at the age of 16? If not, are there anything one should be careful with?

I went for a blood test this morning and it was really, painful. And the technician said he probably accidentally hit a nerve. Will the pain ever go away?

Yeah. A technician did the same thing to me yesterday. I couldn't bend my arm afterwards, but after taking a 20 min shower (and resting for a while) I felt good again.

Are there any arguments against starting to gym at the age of 16? If not, are there anything one should be careful with?

16 is fine. Any age is fine if it's not too hard-core. Get yourself muscles. Be careful of steroids (don't take them).

Thanks.

I'm a good boy :)

Whats worse, Meth or Heroin?

trips? meth, i hear.

I meant which does more damage to the human body? Short and long term.

Well, heroin is the most addictive substance on the planet, so I'd go with that.

Meth sucks pretty hard too but I do believe you could get rehab or something.

What are the immediate (short-term)
effects of methamphetamine abuse?

As a powerful stimulant, methamphetamine, even in small doses, can increase wakefulness and physical activity and decrease appetite. Methamphetamine can also cause a variety of cardiovascular problems, including rapid heart rate, irregular heartbeat, and increased blood pressure. Hyperthermia (elevated body temperature) and convulsions may occur with methamphetamine overdose, and if not treated immediately, can result in death.

Most of the pleasurable effects of methamphetamine are believed to result from the release of very high levels of the neurotransmitter dopamine. Dopamine is involved in motivation, the experience of pleasure, and motor function, and is a common mechanism of action for most drugs of abuse. The elevated release of dopamine produced by methamphetamine is also thought to contribute to the drug's deleterious effects on nerve terminals in the brain.


What are the long-term
effects of methamphetamine abuse?

Long-term methamphetamine abuse has many negative consequences, including addiction. Addiction is a chronic, relapsing disease, characterized by compulsive drug seeking and use, accompanied by functional and molecular changes in the brain. In addition to being addicted to methamphetamine, chronic abusers exhibit symptoms that can include anxiety, confusion, insomnia, mood disturbances, and violent behavior. They also can display a number of psychotic features, including paranoia, visual and auditory hallucinations, and delusions (for example, the sensation of insects creeping under the skin). Psychotic symptoms can sometimes last for months or years after methamphetamine abuse has ceased, and stress has been shown to precipitate spontaneous recurrence of methamphetamine psychosis in formerly psychotic methamphetamine abusers.

With chronic abuse, tolerance to methamphetamine's pleasurable effects can develop. In an effort to intensify the desired effects, abusers may take higher doses of the drug, take it more frequently, or change their method of drug intake. Withdrawal from methamphetamine occurs when a chronic abuser stops taking the drug; symptoms of withdrawal include depression, anxiety, fatigue, and an intense craving for the drug.

H:

What are its short-term effects?
The short-term effects of heroin abuse appear soon after a single dose and disappear in a few hours.After an injection of heroin, the user reports feeling a surge of euphoria ("rush") accompanied by a warm flushing of the skin, a dry mouth, and heavy extremities. Following this initial euphoria, the user goes "on the nod," an alternately wakeful and drowsy state. Mental functioning becomes clouded due to the depression of the central nervous system. Other effects included slowed and slurred speech, slow gait, constricted pupils, droopy eyelids, impaired night vision, vomiting, constipation.

H:

What are its long-term effects?

Long-term effects of heroin appear after repeated use for some period of time.Chronic users may develop collapsed veins, infection of the heart lining and valves, abscesses, cellulites, and liver disease. Pulmonary complications, including various types of pneumonia, may result from the poor health condition of the abuser, as well as from heroin's depressing effects on respiration.In addition to the effects of the drug itself, street heroin may have additives that do not really dissolve and result in clogging the blood vessels that lead to the lungs, liver, kidneys, or brain. This can cause infection or even death of small patches of cells in vital organs. With regular heroin use, tolerance develops. This means the abuser must use more heroin to achieve the same intensity or effect.

As higher doses are used over time, physical dependence and addiction develop. With physical dependence, the body has adapted to the presence of the drug and withdrawal symptoms may occur if use is reduced or stopped. Withdrawal, which in regular abusers may occur as early as a few hours after the last administration, produces drug craving, restlessness, muscle and bone pain, insomnia, diarrhea and vomiting, cold flashes with goose bumps ("cold turkey"), kicking movements ("kicking the habit"), and other symptoms. Major withdrawal symptoms peak between 48 and 72 hours after the last does and subside after about a week. Sudden withdrawal by heavily dependent users who are in poor health can be fatal.

pick one...

Hmm, Heroin seems slightly worse. I was just wondering because I was watching the TV series Breaking Bad and it portrays Heroin as far worse than Meth.

Should I go see "Edge of Darkness" at the cinema or online?

If any one were to find a large, desktop worthy image of that picture of infantry and tanks assaulting the Reichstag, could you kindly send it this way?

If a terrestrial planet were to get consumed by an external black hole, what would it look like? Would we see pieces coming off the planet, or would it get stretched in a cartoonish manner?

Not based on any scientific knowledge whatsoever, but I think it is safe to assume the planet would be ripped apart and drift in.

If a terrestrial planet were to get consumed by an external black hole, what would it look like? Would we see pieces coming off the planet, or would it get stretched in a cartoonish manner?

I dont think we would see anything much.

Any external optics would be messed up by the time the gravitational integrity of the planet gave up the ghost.

I don't think this is thread-worthy but it is kind of big.

In a discussion about the morality of eating animals, this came up.

ME: I'd rather have some delicious steak than some disgusting soy bean curd.

And a cow is not a human. It isn't the same.
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Derek: What is the specific difference between cow and human that makes it ok to kill a cow for food and not to kill a human for food.
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ME: No offense at all, but

If you have to ask the difference between a cow and a human you probably won't understand the answer.
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Derek: Try me. I would honestly like to know what it is that makes it ok to eat cows but not humans. But if you aren't articulate enough to explain it then don't bother.

How can I explain this to Derek?

cows are meant to feed us... as simple as that, we're at the top of the food-chain... jeezz.. I wish people could get over this once and for all.

we're at the top of the food-chain
Then that means my plan is working. :evil:

Where's the Español 101 thread???

damn I'm good (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=343236)

damn... you are :)

But isn't it the small tears in muscle tissue that make it grow much larger (read: building muscle) after healing?
No, this is a myth. What builds them is when you make them tired, forcing them to work harder, which releases growth signals.

No, muscle tears are a bad thing. Muscles grow because straining them releases growth signals. This happens without tearing muscle. The tiredness shows that lactic acid did build up, and that there was oxygen shortage. This is proof that growth signals stimulated by such metabolites and situations will have been generated.
Said far better than I did, this is what happens.

Are there any arguments against starting to gym at the age of 16? If not, are there anything one should be careful with?
Not good ones. 16 is a good age. Just make sure you exercise correctly, an basically anything after puberty is a good age.

I went for a blood test this morning and it was really, painful. And the technician said he probably accidentally hit a nerve. Will the pain ever go away?
Of course. The pain will go away very quickly, probably by tomorrow. Try not to strain your arm, and a shower or a bath would be good.

I don't think this is thread-worthy but it is kind of big.

In a discussion about the morality of eating animals, this came up.

ME: I'd rather have some delicious steak than some disgusting soy bean curd.

And a cow is not a human. It isn't the same.
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Derek: What is the specific difference between cow and human that makes it ok to kill a cow for food and not to kill a human for food.
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ME: No offense at all, but

If you have to ask the difference between a cow and a human you probably won't understand the answer.
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Derek: Try me. I would honestly like to know what it is that makes it ok to eat cows but not humans. But if you aren't articulate enough to explain it then don't bother.

How can I explain this to Derek?
Cows aren't sapient. That is, they aren't intelligent, self-aware life-forms like humans. This is an argument against eating chimps, orang-utans, and possibly whales, dolphins and some cephalopods.

ME: No offense at all, but

If you have to ask the difference between a cow and a human you probably won't understand the answer.
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Derek: Try me. I would honestly like to know what it is that makes it ok to eat cows but not humans. But if you aren't articulate enough to explain it then don't bother.

How can I explain this to Derek?

I find it sad that you resort to "you won't understand the answer" when you can't provide the answer.

Sapience isn't per se very good answer, because it allows to eat new born babies or coma patients.

You'd have to also be able to tell why sapience is the criterion. Usually people think that ability to suffer is what makes the difference, and this is what Derek will say too.

Ask him whether or not he'd choose the life of a cow over the life of a human.

That isn't sufficient reason either: if it were, it would be right to eat people you don't know, because you would choose eating them rather than your mother for example. Also, we don't have to make that kind of choice.

Derek: Try me. I would honestly like to know what it is that makes it ok to eat cows but not humans. But if you aren't articulate enough to explain it then don't bother.

How can I explain this to Derek?
Cows are incapable of giving consent to the rights and responsibilities of society. They therefore do not get the same rights as those who do.

Longer answer:
Firstly, no, there are some humans who cannot give consent. Typically, they already have or might in the future (disabled people and babies respectively). You could build an argument about that.
If he queries why consent is important, you can similarly ask why the ability to suffer is important, that probably being the basis of his views. Both are arbitrarily chosen. He can use the argument to query your opinions, but his opinions are just as vulnerable. The conclusion therefore is certainly not to avoid eating cows.

Next up, he'll ask why rights and responsibilities go together: why a cow must consent to the responsibilities of society before it can have rights. At this stage we have to admit that it could be granted legal protections by society without consenting to them, but we will also point out that there is no over-riding moral justification for such protections.
Rights and responsibilities go together because they are the inverse of one another. The right not to be murdered is simply everyone else having a responsibility not to murder you.

At this stage we are getting into quite fundamental ideas about whether rights are fundamental and universal, which they quite clearly are not.
You could say that it is incredible that he can imagine an obligation governing a person who has not consented to it. That's a perfect description of a fundamental right: if a cow has a fundamental right not to be eaten, then this is the same as an obligation on me not to eat it, despite me never agreeing to such a thing.
You could also ask him whether predators in the wild are criminals. He will probably come up with some foolish notion that 'they know no better'. We can ignore his assumption of superiority, and bring up an interesting point of established law:
ignorance of the law is not an excuse for breaking it.
We can also wonder why being able to think suddenly gives us obligations, without even consenting.

Let us quote a wise old man (Albus Dumbledore): 'it is the choices we make that truly determine who we are'.
Thinking is not a choice. Consent is the choice. Consent is the action. If I am a criminal simply by virtue of my ability to think then I have been condemned for something that I cannot control.

That is the morality of fundamental rights. They grant rights on the basis of characteristics that are beyond the control of the being that is being given those rights, and are also beyond the control of the beings that must respect those rights. Fundamental rights therefore impose responsibilities, based solely on the belief of the person ascribing those fundamental rights. If we're going to choose arbitrary characteristics, we could just as easily choose humanity as the characteristic that determines whether a being gets rights or not.

On the other hand, if we believe that such an imposition is impossible to justify, the only way that responsibilities can govern a being is if that being has consented to them. This makes much more sense, since the consequences (being wrong or right in a moral sense) are now dependent on our actions, not on arbitrary characteristics such as being able to think, and we typically view moral judgement as being a way of judging actions.

That isn't sufficient reason either: if it were, it would be right to eat people you don't know, because you would choose eating them rather than your mother for example. Also, we don't have to make that kind of choice.

Yeah, I would most likely choose a stranger over my mother. But that's a Human VS Human example.

This is about Cow VS Human. If you're hungry and you want some freaking meat, would you prefer eating Cow or Human?

This is about Cow VS Human. If you're hungry and you want some freaking meat, would you prefer eating Cow or Human?

You don't need to eat meat even if you're hungry. Your desire to eat meat doesn't make it right. Am I allowed to kill human if I want to?

Cows are incapable of giving consent to the rights and responsibilities of society. They therefore do not get the same rights as those who do.


The question wasn't about rights but about morality. Things can be wrong even if you have right to them. You'll have to specify whether you mean right in the legal or moral sense.

Societies grant rights to even those humans that do not give consent. I don't remember giving one myself.

The choice of suffering over sapience isn't arbitrary, the reason people usually choose it is because it is better description of our moral intuition than sapience. If the two are equally arbitrary, it doesn't make eating cows more preferable than not eating them. If someone's going to appeal to the arbitrariness, he'll have to notice soon that it refutes every principle of morals.

If you think that animals have no rights at all, then you'll have to accept for axample cruel and sadistic torture of them.

On the other hand, if we believe that such an imposition is impossible to justify, the only way that responsibilities can govern a being is if that being has consented to them.

But then again, doesn't that make the possible future ability to consent to them arbitrary?

Cows are incapable of giving consent to the rights and responsibilities of society. They therefore do not get the same rights as those who do.

brb, eating the sandwich I always wanted :yumyum:

http://plorf.com/media/pic-baby-meal.jpg

This is about Cow VS Human. If you're hungry and you want some freaking meat, would you prefer eating Cow or Human?
I've eaten cow thousands of times in my life, and I've never known what human tastes like, so I'd try that.

Having just watched Alive yesterday, it makes this discussion all the better.

Do scientists / astronomers know the age of the Delta Trianguli star system? If so, what is it?

How do you clean up the mess from a fire extinguisher?

How do you clean up the mess from a fire extinguisher?

You can burn it away.

Dead GOD, who let you near one of those?

Is your life some kind of sitcom Aimee? It seems like you get into some kind of zany misadventure everyday.

There were flames shooting out of the toaster. I unplugged it and it was still on fire, and I didn't know if I should throw water on electrical components. So I used the fire extinguisher and it left all sorts of foam behind.

My mom came back from the neighbor's and cleaned it up.

Will nukes EVER again be used in war? Why or why not?

I doubt it.
The possibility does exist, primarily through an extremist group seizing control of them (either taking them from a military or taking control of the government).
I doubt any country will use nukes unless they are suffering a major defeat in a war.
Even then I believe every country recognizes that if they use a nuke there will be so much :):):):) coming down on them from every other country that they will gain nothing. Limiting them to the "if I'm going down I'll take as much of you with me as I can" idea, and not a chance at victory.
Then you have the issue that except for a few cases, no state will start anything with a nuclear armed country or stand a chance at defeating said country. The India-Pakistan situation the most pushing this, followed by Israel. Even these cases I think are unlikely to go nuclear.

Boiling down to extremists getting their hands on the weapons. In the current world situation I would expect that to be most likely in Pakistan. Though I suspect they are quite well secured if no major upheaval occurs.
I don't see Kim giving up any, or wanting them used. He just wants the US to keep getting concessions from the US.

http://plorf.com/media/pic-baby-meal.jpg


That looks like my history teacher.
I am not surprised.
:eek:

Does anybody else think 90% of David Letterman's guest bands suck

Will nukes EVER again be used in war? Why or why not?

Yes, there are still some Japanese people left.

Will nukes EVER again be used in war? Why or why not?

Yes. Because war will always exist, and so will nuclear weapons.

In space, radiation is not a problem! We can either have a nuclear asteroid-deflection system or we will fight over mining the asteroid belt or some stuff or even both!

Radiation is even more of a problem in space as you have very little matter to absorb or deflect the charged particles.

Is your life some kind of sitcom Aimee? It seems like you get into some kind of zany misadventure everyday.

There were flames shooting out of the toaster. I unplugged it and it was still on fire, and I didn't know if I should throw water on electrical components. So I used the fire extinguisher and it left all sorts of foam behind.

My mom came back from the neighbor's and cleaned it up.

What was she doing at your neighbour's place, Aimee? :mischief:

Radiation is even more of a problem in space as you have very little matter to absorb or deflect the charged particles.

But screw space.

What was she doing at your neighbour's place, Aimee? :mischief:

Talking, I suppose.

Talking, I suppose.

[insert sexual innuendo]

Does your mother talk to this neighbour often? :mischief:

Not too often.

What happened to the white car? (Google Street View.)
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/5417/lolwutu.png

I'm guessing they had taken two different images to get one big and wide one. Unfortunately someone failed with the editing.

I'm thinking of converting to Presbyterianism. The reason being that its my last semester of my undergrad degree and I really need some work ethic. My Catholic side is dominant at the moment hence the laziness, I need to tap into my Protestant side. How long does it take for the work ethic to kick in?

I've tried drinking Harp lager, singing hymns and being disgusted by sexual acts in general but I'm worried it won't be enough. :sad:

I'm thinking of converting to Presbyterianism. The reason being that its my last semester of my undergrad degree and I really need some work%2

You don't need a change of religion to change your work ethic. You just need to change your work ethic. There's nothing about being an Irish Catholic that says you have to be lazy.

Or you could always make something up. A belief that's exactly like Catholicism but with an awesome work ethic :)

You don't need a change of religion to change your work ethic. You just need to change your work ethic. There's nothing about being an Irish Catholic that says you have to be lazy.

Yeah I know, its just my tongue-in-cheek way of asking how you would go about motivating yourself and getting a work ethic going? Particularly when what you have to do isn't interesting to you in the least?

I'd also like to clarify that I'm not Catholic, I come from the ridiculously named ''mixed marriage''. About as diverse a family you could have in Ireland until recently was having both Catholic and Protestant parents. I did the Catholic religion class in school (because it was less work :lol:) and was christened a Catholic but not confirmed so I guess I know the most about that religion out of the two.

Does anybody have any idea what this thing is supposed to be? My best guess is a motorcycle.
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4936/whatthehell.png

It is a motocycle, just going really fast and at an odd angle.

Yeah I know, its just my tongue-in-cheek way of asking how you would go about motivating yourself and getting a work ethic going? Particularly when what you have to do isn't interesting to you in the least?

I'd also like to clarify that I'm not Catholic, I come from the ridiculously named ''mixed marriage''. About as diverse a family you could have in Ireland until recently was having both Catholic and Protestant parents. I did the Catholic religion class in school (because it was less work :lol:) and was christened a Catholic but not confirmed so I guess I know the most about that religion out of the two.

If you want to motivate yourself better for it, you could try setting aggressive short term goals, like "i will do x every day, no matter what, or deny myself something i want" or focus more on the goals over the long term and see the dull stuff in the meantime as something you need to force yourself through to get there.

How can I put work into changing my work ethic if I have a terrible work ethic :crazyeye:

How can I put work into changing my work ethic if I have a terrible work ethic :crazyeye:

Force yourself to change or give up and admit to being screwed. :mischief:

I'm thinking of converting to Presbyterianism. The reason being that its my last semester of my undergrad degree and I really need some work ethic. My Catholic side is dominant at the moment hence the laziness, I need to tap into my Protestant side. How long does it take for the work ethic to kick in?

I've tried drinking Harp lager, singing hymns and being disgusted by sexual acts in general but I'm worried it won't be enough. :sad:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

How long do you think it'd take me to become an olympic class skier if I start training everyday? I went skiing once 6 years ago if that helps any.

Are you older than 10? If so then probably never.

:(:(:(

My dreams of olympic gold are dashed!






Wait, what about luging? That looks easy, just push yourself down a ramp covered in ice

And end up on the google logo?

But seriously, lugers have a very strong grip and can push themselves off quite hard.

About the only Olympic sports you can start in as an older (re: above 10) person and be really successful in these days are the various shooting events. Maybe martial arts.

I'm thinking of converting to Presbyterianism. The reason being that its my last semester of my undergrad degree and I really need some work ethic. My Catholic side is dominant at the moment hence the laziness, I need to tap into my Protestant side. How long does it take for the work ethic to kick in?

I've tried drinking Harp lager, singing hymns and being disgusted by sexual acts in general but I'm worried it won't be enough. :sad:
I recommend Frisbeetarianism instead.

I'm afraid I'm already signed up to Dudeism as my parody religion. I enjoy the sacrement of a caucasian on the rocks.

Have any CFCers tried Buckfast?

Its a tonic wine made by monks that contains large amounts of alcohol and even larger amounts of caffeine. I'm not sure if its available outside the UK and Ireland.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45568000/jpg/_45568484_buckfast_getty226.jpg

The reason I ask is because its been linked heavily to crime recently. In Scotland over the last three years it was mentioned in over 5000 crime reports and apparently the bottle makes a good weapon. Heres the link. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/devon/8490681.stm). The drink has just 0.5% of the market. People are highlighting the caffeine content as the reason it riles people up - 281mg per bottle, the equivalent of 8 cans of coke.

I've tried it myself but I never really enjoyed it. I sell it to people at work and those that do buy it seem to really like it, its almost a punchline. Most people who ask to buy it usually shoot me a wry smile that says, ''Aren't I a crazy fecker''.

So, opinions? Or more broadly your opinion on highly caffeinated alcoholic drinks? Public danger or is it just yobs who can't hold their liquor?

You're not letting them drive, are you?

Huh? What do you mean?

Its not my job to nanny people.

I sell it in a liquor store, a take away type thing. Not my business what they choose to do after consuming a product I sell them.

Unless they're already drunk :mischief:

i shall die for my right to sell alcohol to drunk people.

The only situation where I wouldn't sell to somebody in the off lisence because of drunkeness would be if they are physically unable to articulate to me what their beverage of choice is.

The only situation where I wouldn't sell to somebody in the off lisence because of drunkeness would be if they are physically unable to articulate to me what their beverage of choice is.

Aren't you legally obliged not to sell to someone who is already drunk (in England that's the case anyways)

pointing is ok with me.

Aren't you legally obliged not to sell to someone who is already drunk (in England that's the case anyways)

I'll have to find out about that one. I probably am obliged not to sell, we generally have stricter laws on sale of alcohol over here.

I would imagine its hard for somebody to be prosecuted for it though.

Aren't you legally obliged not to sell to someone who is already drunk (in England that's the case anyways)

You aren't legally obliged to do so, but if you serve someone alcohol and they leave your bar smashed and go out and kill someone, you can be held responsible for it. Thus, many bars have local cab numbers etc and signs that advertise it so that barkeeps can secure a safe trip home for their more free-flowing customers.

I'm sure many restaurants have house rules, though, about serving people who are obviously already drunk; so even if you don't face legal action, you could still get fired for it, especially if they cause a ruckus and the restaurant takes a hit for it.

You aren't legally obliged to do so, but if you serve someone alcohol and they leave your bar smashed and go out and kill someone, you can be held responsible for it. Thus, many bars have local cab numbers etc and signs that advertise it so that barkeeps can secure a safe trip home for their more free-flowing customers.

I'm sure many restaurants have house rules, though, about serving people who are obviously already drunk; so even if you don't face legal action, you could still get fired for it, especially if they cause a ruckus and the restaurant takes a hit for it.

Yeah definitely when it comes to bars it makes sense to refuse to serve really drunk people. I do mainly out of self interest, I couldn't care less about the moral side of it, I just don't want to have to care of some drunken a-hole at the end of the night.

The discussion was about liquor stores though which is a whole different situation.

So, opinions? Or more broadly your opinion on highly caffeinated alcoholic drinks? Public danger or is it just yobs who can't hold their liquor?
An Irish coffee in the morning helps start the day. But giving drunk people too much energy is usualy bad.

Have any CFCers tried Buckfast?
Won a bottle off Tommy Tiernan once. Tried it - didn't like it - gave the rest to a wino.

A former manager of mine who didn't drink was recommend it as a tonic for a cold - she didn't realise that tonic wine had alcohol in it drank a whole bottle and couldn't figure out what was wrong with her later.

Won a bottle off Tommy Tiernan once. Tried it - didn't like it - gave the rest to a wino.

A former manager of mine who didn't drink was recommend it as a tonic for a cold - she didn't realise that tonic wine had alcohol in it drank a whole bottle and couldn't figure out what was wrong with her later.

:lol:

Well I'm sure everyone in Galway will get an education on Buckfast fueled idiots what with RAG week coming up this month.

Isn't that drink just asking for a heart attack?

Where can I find a large world map showing current (as in 2007 and later) land use for agriculture?

I also need a large world map showing major roadways and/or major(?) rail lines.

Does anybody know what this is (and the purpose)?

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4491/candycane.png

That looks like a painted ventilation pipe.

Christmas decoration.

A poorly-designed periscope for a land submarine.

The deadliest snake in the world, the striped mamba.

What Love said.

Is it considered stalking if ... Suppose you put somebody's name and state into [url=http://www.zabasearch.com/]ZabaSearch[url] and found them. So then you copy and paste the address into Google Maps and the Street View is available so you look and see their house.

Just wondering.

Is it considered stalking if ... Suppose you put somebody's name and state into [url=http://www.zabasearch.com/]ZabaSearch[url] and found them. So then you copy and paste the address into Google Maps and the Street View is available so you look and see their house.

Just wondering.

No.

But you sure as hell are creepy.

Do you guys think aimee is serious or is this just a big joke?

What would be the present day population of the United Kingdom if the 400 years of emigration did not occur?

I'm thinking 100 MILLION.

No.

But you sure as hell are creepy.

Why? Maybe I was referring to somebody I know who did do that. She didn't do it to me, though.

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Why is aimee spending so much time on google street view?

My town was just added to it.

After a President serves his two terms, he generally retires from political life, but if he wanted to he could continue his political career and run for Senate or the House or governorship again if he wanted to couldn't he?

Also why has my economy imploded?
http://www.nationstates.net/

Yes he can. President Johnson I believe(the civil war one) served in the senate for a while after he left office.

Just how popular are Siberian cats?

Who the hell actually names cat breeds? They're all the same, some are just uglier than others.

Who the hell actually names cat breeds? They're all the same, some are just uglier than others.

Who the hell actually names children? They're all the same, some are just uglier than others.

Anyone who thinks of their cats as children or refers to them in such a way is a freaking weirdo.

Anyone who thinks of their cats as children or refers to them in such a way is a freaking weirdo.

I was referring to his statement on all cats being ugly, but I see that was wasted on you.

Do you guys think aimee is serious or is this just a big joke?
Not a joke; a troll. One of the biggest to ever hit this forum.

What would be the present day population of the United Kingdom if the 400 years of emigration did not occur?

I'm thinking 100 MILLION.

It would certainly be a good bit larger, but then again the UK would probably be less influential as countries like Australia, the US, NZ, and Canada would feel less in common with the UK due to their citizens less common heritage with Blighty.

I mean look at the Irish diaspora, without it and The Famine Ireland would probably have a population of at least 10 million - but we would probably be less well known as a people and just as irrelevant.

Not a joke; a troll. One of the biggest to ever hit this forum.

And proud of it! :smug:

You don't need to eat meat even if you're hungry. Your desire to eat meat doesn't make it right. Am I allowed to kill human if I want to?

The question wasn't about rights but about morality. Things can be wrong even if you have right to them. You'll have to specify whether you mean right in the legal or moral sense.

Societies grant rights to even those humans that do not give consent. I don't remember giving one myself.

The choice of suffering over sapience isn't arbitrary, the reason people usually choose it is because it is better description of our moral intuition than sapience. If the two are equally arbitrary, it doesn't make eating cows more preferable than not eating them. If someone's going to appeal to the arbitrariness, he'll have to notice soon that it refutes every principle of morals.

If you think that animals have no rights at all, then you'll have to accept for axample cruel and sadistic torture of them.

But then again, doesn't that make the possible future ability to consent to them arbitrary?
No credible theory of morality can rely on moral intuition as a guide. When devising a theory, one cannot start out with a list of conclusions and find premises to match. One starts out with premises and reaches conclusions. If no premise seems justifiable, then you're stuck there.
If you think that every principle of morals relies on moral intuition or an arbitrary value of preventing suffering then yes, all moral principles are bunk.

Societies do currently grant rights without consent, and hold people responsible for infringing others' rights without consent. This inevitably comes up in these conversations, although I try to avoid it. This does not mean that a theory in which consent is important is wrong, it means that societies are not set up in a moral manner.
See my point? I'm starting from a theory I think is justified and drawing conclusions from that, rather than starting from conclusions (such as societies are right) and using them to falsify a theory.

However, I think I see an escape from arbitrariness because rules that a person says applies to him, however arbitrary, have his consent to apply to him. Therefore their arbitrariness doesn't matter, unlike if we were to claim them as universal moral rules based on personal, subjective opinion ('intuition').

I do think that torture of animals is barbaric. However, I am quite capable of separating my personal feelings on the issue from the question of rights. Just because it disgusts me does not make it wrong, any more than gay sex is wrong because I would hate to do it.

Where can I find a large world map showing current (as in 2007 and later) land use for agriculture?

I also need a large world map showing major roadways and/or major(?) rail lines.
Times Atlas of the world
Not a joke; a troll. One of the biggest to ever hit this forum.troll bait, perhaps

I stumbled across CivGeneral's old Catholicism thread (what a wonderful disaster that was) and it got me wondering why CG seems decidedly more cynical about the RCC these days. Any veterans remember?

Has anyone seen Deadliest Warrior on some US TV channel? Its hilarious. Its a kind of documentary program that recreates imaginary battles between various historical warriors. My favourite is the stupidly innapropriate battle between the IRA and the Taliban. :lol:

EHPdubG7AO0

WTF?

I saw Spetsnaz vs Green Berets. The Russians won. That one you showed was ridiculously comedic. :lol:

That was weird. Spenstaz was getting pwned, but then they had one dude left and he went Rambo on the Green Beret's arses and wiped the floor with them. Russians, you have to be careful with them.

Why? Maybe I was referring to somebody I know who did do that. She didn't do it to me, though.

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Even though nobody knows about it, if you do it repeatedly it is creepy. You are literally finding their billing address information, and staring at the place they live. Good thing Google Street View isn't live, huh? :mischief:

I saw Spetsnaz vs Green Berets. The Russians won. That one you showed was ridiculously comedic. :lol:

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/science_channel_refuses_to_dumb

That makes the IRA seem so KEWL!

Me: 29
Her: 21

Is the age gap too big?

for what?

http://simcity.ea.com/update/index_update.php?product=EP1&x=105&y=14

Why are there five different updates?

Me: 29
Her: 21

Is the age gap too big?

No. That's conservatively/respectfully small by many people's standards, but even by harsh cultural perspectives you're both clearly adults and this alone isn't reason for any concern - other particulars of the situation not taken into account.

http://simcity.ea.com/update/index_update.php?product=EP1&x=105&y=14

Why are there five different updates?

Don't the update descriptions kind of say why? There were 5 different SKU's, each one gets its own update.

what is the name of the song in the first 4:30 of this video? And who is it from?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFWKizD165w

what is the name of the song in the first 4:30 of this video? And who is it from?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFWKizD165w

The comments on that video lead me to believe that it's by Evanescence.

Don't the update descriptions kind of say why? There were 5 different SKU's, each one gets its own update.

I'm not exactly sure what an SKU is. I looked it up, it's supposed to mean stock-keeping unit but I have no idea why there'll all different for different countries or require different updates.

Sounds like evanescence or some crap like that.

I'm not exactly sure what an SKU is. I looked it up, it's supposed to mean stock-keeping unit but I have no idea why there'll all different for different countries or require different updates.

"A stock-keeping unit or SKU is a unique identifier for each distinct product and service that can be purchased."

Each country has a distinct version which needs its own update.

Common sense, you don't have it.

Sounds like evanescence or some crap like that.

It's "Lose Control" by Evanescence, yes. Normally, I'm an Evanescence fan, but this isn't one of their...better...songs :vomit:

Problem is...they dont even have a good song. Not a single one.

Whatever. That's your opinion I guess.

"A stock-keeping unit or SKU is a unique identifier for each distinct product and service that can be purchased."

Each country has a distinct version which needs its own update.

Common sense, you don't have it.

Oh. But why the seperate versions? Some weird export regulations maybe?

What's this thing?

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7098/vts01320080428173521.jpg

that's a drunk guy passed out on a large pipe.

Ok so i went to my local petrol station off licence. I went in at about 9:30 I was the only costumer there. I went to the drinks counter and got some Coke and some Budweiser. I got to the till the guy ID'd me and we exchanged money and I got the reciet. But than I had a strange thought in my head and I implemeted it into reality:

I pointed at the lad (he was nervous 4 some reason) and I said "Remember my face!" in an authoritarian voice.

WTF WHY DID I DO THAT I HAVE NO IDEA

I guess I scored tons of man points though.

Any thoughts on my random outburst?

Follow it up with something strange and wonderful.

A European drinking Budweiser? Seek help :mischief:

A European drinking Budweiser? Seek help :mischief:

Please, please not Bud Light. But real 5% Budweiser it's good. I'm not going to drink Stella like all the D*cks do at my age its awful! :)

I'm partial to Peroni an Italian beer - but its very expensive.

Also I'm an Americo-Phile (4 some reason) I haven't grown into my natural English hatred yet.

Please, please not Bud Light. But real 5% Budweiser it's good. I'm not going to drink Stella like all the D*cks do at my age its awful! :)

I'm partial to Peroni an Italian beer - but its very expensive.

Also I'm an Americo-Phile (4 some reason) I haven't grown into my natural English hatred yet.

... Just 5%? :confused:

How long would that take you to get drunk, 15 beers?

A European drinking Budweiser? Seek help :mischief:

He's not European, he's ENGLISH.

... Just 5%? :confused:

How long would that take you to get drunk, 15 beers?

Ermm I had the impression that 5% was the average % of alcohol in Beer. And now it takes less.

He's not European, he's ENGLISH.

Exactly.

I should never answer to "EUropean" I'M ENGLISH. Well British too but meh

:):)

He's not European, he's ENGLISH.

But he's not American. Therefore he belongs with them, not us.

If a nation with a King is a Kingdom, a Emporer an Empire.. why was it the British Empire?