I am now honored to say that I will be continueing my campaign as Science Leader for the 6 term in a row. I will soon be posting polls/discussions over science issues.

Science Leader: Strider
Science Deputy: Gunning
Science Chat Rep: Stuck, CivGeneral

I chose the name Fanatika's Destiny as I believe this is the Term the strength of are nation is calculated. Also this is the term in which we will decide on a road of war.... or a road of peace.

Short-Term Queue:
Lit
Poly
Monarchy
Map Making

Long-Term Queue: Includes techs of the whole age
None N/A

Quote: Strider, Science Leader for Life - CivGeneral

Science Discussions:
Discussion over Queue's (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35393)
Raising the Research Rate (http://forums.civfanatics.com/newthread.php?s=&action=newthread&forumid=79)v
The Middle Age's (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36221)

Science Polls
Rushing Libries (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35390)
Do you like the current queue? (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35392)
How is the Science Department doing? (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36222)
The Middle Age's (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36267)

Other Science Departments
Term 2 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33419)

You may find a copy of the Ancient Age's tech tree (http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3tech_tree1.shtml) their.
You may find a copy of the Middle Age's Tech Tree (http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3tech_tree2.shtml) their.

I'll have to decline. I'm retired. :) Though, I may help out now and then.

Originally posted by Chieftess
I'll have to decline. I'm retired. :) Though, I may help out now and then.

Ok.... I was just hoping :) I'll take you name off the list.

Congrats, Strider. Good luck this term! I'm glad to see Monarchy in the queue.

Originally posted by Cyc
Congrats, Strider. Good luck this term! I'm glad to see Monarchy in the queue.

Sorry to ruin this Cyc, but monarcy has been in the queue for about 3 weeks :)

Official City placement poll (part one) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35394). Time is short so please vote as soon as possible if you wish to have your say!

Originally posted by Eklektikos
Official City placement poll (part one) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35394). Time is short so please vote as soon as possible if you wish to have your say!

Already voted

Strider- I accept chat rep. However, be warned. Landing the title role in my school musical will cut down on my participation time (and get me PTW early)

Congratulations from the Cartographic Office! We eagerly anticipate the discovery of Map-making so that we can trade maps with our neighbors.

As deputy of the Science Dept., Gunning1 has been granted city naming rights. Please be sure to register your city name with our office (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34519).

Originally posted by FortyJ
Congratulations from the Cartographic Office! We eagerly anticipate the discovery of Map-making so that we can trade maps with our neighbors.

As deputy of the Science Dept., Gunning1 has been granted city naming rights. Please be sure to register your city name with our office (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34519).

I'll make sure he will...

Their is currently many discussions and polls over Scienctific Affairs. Please see the first post for a complete list of all of them.

A definitive poll regarding provincial borders (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35586) has been posted.

I have posted quick polls to decide where our next city will be placed (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35602) and where the city after that will be placed (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35605) also. Please vote in these polls as soon as possible if you wish to influence the final decision!

I voted in both of them before you made this post.

I have posted the run off poll for the province border definition issue (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35818). The choice is now down to two of FortyJ's proposals: "Capitol Province" & "Strictly Geographic 2". Please vote now to define the shape of our nation and the size of our Senate!

Please have our research changed over to monarchy nex turn as we will be getting literature and polytheism from the Great Library.

Also, please lobby for changing the temples in production over to libraries next turn. :king:

We'll also need more depth in the science queue as we'll be spradically receiving techs from our AI friends.

Donsig: Monarcy is already set up after lit and poly.

Shaitan: Working on it.... through I can't seem to get any discussion started on it. I seem to be the only one who likes to make science queue's. Mind if I just poll it?

For a stop-gap measure that would be okay but it really requires discussion. We need an overall plan. With the Great Library we are best served by attacking dead end and empty research targets as the AI tends to skip some of these.

I haven't seen a recent discussion thread on queues. Did I miss one?

Originally posted by Shaitan
For a stop-gap measure that would be okay but it really requires discussion. We need an overall plan. With the Great Library we are best served by attacking dead end and empty research targets as the AI tends to skip some of these.

I haven't seen a recent discussion thread on queues. Did I miss one?

I've ALWAYS posted a queue discussion thread. Look the the 1st post under discussions.

You haven't posted in that thread since before the first turn chat. The people need you to lead the discussion. Tell us what you want to do and we'll tell you if we agree or suggest alternatives.

Originally posted by Shaitan
You haven't posted in that thread since before the first turn chat. The people need you to lead the discussion. Tell us what you want to do and we'll tell you if we agree or suggest alternatives.

That's the only problem.... Last time I told them what I want to do I got yelled at.

New Science Discussion: Raising the Science Research Rate.

I chose a bad name for this discussion. It is not about actually raising the science research rate, but how to get it up the highest without actually raising it up.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/newthread.php?s=&action=newthread&forumid=79

Do you want me to change that thread title?

I have posted Quick Polls to decide the placement of the first (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35978), second (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35979) and third (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35981) cities during the upcoming November 8th turn chat. These polls have been set to remain open for 24 hours only, so please vote as soon as possible to ensure the cities are built in the right place at the right time!

Originally posted by Shaitan
Do you want me to change that thread title?

If you can think of changing it to something else that seems more appropiate than do it, but I can't think of anything.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has posted an informational poll regarding the establishment of embassies (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36142).

All citizens are encouraged to participate.

There are numerous tech sales available with the bounty we received from the Great Library. Please evaluate them and discuss which ones we should pursue. Two are over 100g! :)

Please cast your department vote in the Judge Advocate Confirmation (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36164) Council Vote.

I am amazed at how many techs we got from the Great Library. My concern now is our one tech lead on the Japanese towards Chivalry. I would definitely like to have Knights attacking them before they get the Samurai. (sp?)

Does any nation have Monarchy yet? How about Feudalism?

Nobody has Monarchy yet, nor does anyone have Feudalism. But that won't last long.

In light of our "acquisition" of the Great Library, I think any research towards Monarchy or Republic would be wasted. The AI will discover these techs long before we get close. I therefore recommend switching our research efforts towards Engineering. There is a good chance that we will discover this before the AI, and can therefore trade it at a premium. Also, this would allow our knights (or swordsmen) to travel faster without the river penalty.

I have made my decision on appointees for the 2 planned Provincial Governor positions. donsig will be presented as Governor of the SouthWest Province and Cyc will be presented as Governor of the SouthEast Province. Many factors went into these decisions including the citizen feedback poll, my personal experience working with them on various projects and a mandate to get and keep both of them in official office.

FionnMcCumhall will be named to the Northern Province as soon as that province has another city. My personal feeling is that must happen very quickly. It is seriously underdeveloped and within the Capital's reduced corruption range.

All Department Leaders should respond to these 2 polls:
Confirmation for donsig to SouthWest Province (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36190)
Confirmation of Cyc to SouthEast Province (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36191)

New Discussion posted:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36221

We need to increase citizen participation in Science Discussions! Please join in!

New poll posted:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36222

Quoting 40J:

I therefore recommend switching our research efforts towards Engineering. There is a good chance that we will discover this before the AI, and can therefore trade it at a premium. Also, this would allow our knights (or swordsmen) to travel faster without the river penalty.
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Actually, I agree wih you, 40J. I was leaning towards switching to Feudalism, but that may be a waste of flasks also. Engineering may also be a waste of flasks, but it probably a better bet. I'm hoping that two civs will get Monarchy before the next 40 turns (40T :) ), and we collect it that way. Hopefully we'll have a Great Leader to build the Hanging Gardens. But back on subject, I agree with switching to Engineering.

I repeat: (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=584149#post584149)
There are numerous tech sales available with the bounty we received from the Great Library. Please evaluate them and discuss which ones we should pursue. Two are over 100g!

Originally posted by Shaitan
I repeat: (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=584149#post584149)


Shaitan.... BCLG posted ALL avaible trades hours ago.... Discussion has been going on it for quite some time.

Originally posted by Cyc
Quoting 40J:

I therefore recommend switching our research efforts towards Engineering. There is a good chance that we will discover this before the AI, and can therefore trade it at a premium. Also, this would allow our knights (or swordsmen) to travel faster without the river penalty.
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Actually, I agree wih you, 40J. I was leaning towards switching to Feudalism, but that may be a waste of flasks also. Engineering may also be a waste of flasks, but it probably a better bet. I'm hoping that two civs will get Monarchy before the next 40 turns (40T :) ), and we collect it that way. Hopefully we'll have a Great Leader to build the Hanging Gardens. But back on subject, I agree with switching to Engineering.

......??:confused: :confused: That post by FortyJ isn't even in this thread.

Originally posted by Strider


Shaitan.... BCLG posted ALL avaible trades hours ago.... Discussion has been going on it for quite some time.
Thanks for the hedzup. The discussion thread in question can be found here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36205). I encourage everybody to state their opinion. We have an excellent opportunity here to set ourselves up for good things in the future.

New Science Poll Posted:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36267

Originally posted by Strider


......??:confused: :confused: That post by FortyJ isn't even in this thread.
Actually, it is. It's right before Shaitan's post concerning his gubernatorial appointees.

Originally posted by FortyJ

Actually, it is. It's right before Shaitan's post concerning his gubernatorial appointees.

That one is differant then the quote Cyc had.... I guess you edited it?

@ Strider - Here is 40J's quote from his post #31:

I therefore recommend switching our research efforts towards Engineering. There is a good chance that we will discover this before the AI, and can therefore trade it at a premium. Also, this would allow our knights (or swordsmen) to travel faster without the river penalty.


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Then here's my quote of 40J in post #35:

Quoting 40J:

I therefore recommend switching our research efforts towards Engineering. There is a good chance that we will discover this before the AI, and can therefore trade it at a premium. Also, this would allow our knights (or swordsmen) to travel faster without the river penalty.
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Actually, I agree wih you, 40J. I was leaning towards switching to Feudalism, but that may be a waste of flasks also. Engineering may also be a waste of flasks, but it probably a better bet. I'm hoping that two civs will get Monarchy before the next 40 turns (40T ), and we collect it that way. Hopefully we'll have a Great Leader to build the Hanging Gardens. But back on subject, I agree with switching to Engineering.


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It's one of those new, fancy scientific things :) .

Whoa.... Got confusing along their....

I say we just let the AI do everything for us. With a 40 turn research rate and 16 other civs what is the chance of us getting a tech before another AI?

With all civs at the same level, not much. However, several civs are behind us now in tech, and only a half-dozen or so are even with us. Chances are they will pursue Monarchy or Republic and eventually go after Feudalism and Chivalry. We actually do have a good opportunity here to get a tech before any of the AI even at our abyssmal 40 turn rate.

We should switch immediately to Engineering before we waste even 1 beaker on a tech that the other AIs will certainly beat us to.

Originally posted by FortyJ
With all civs at the same level, not much. However, several civs are behind us now in tech, and only a half-dozen or so are even with us. Chances are they will pursue Monarchy or Republic and eventually go after Feudalism and Chivalry. We actually do have a good opportunity here to get a tech before any of the AI even at our abyssmal 40 turn rate.

We should switch immediately to Engineering before we waste even 1 beaker on a tech that the other AIs will certainly beat us to.

That will go immediantly into my instructions. ;)

I've just had a chance to review the save (we saved off and closed immediately when the current turn started). The Romans, Zulu, China, Egypt and Greece have all learned Monarchy this turn. That means we will be getting it next turn.

Good work switching us off of Monarchy! :goodjob:

Originally posted by Shaitan
I've just had a chance to review the save (we saved off and closed immediately when the current turn started). The Romans, Zulu, China, Egypt and Greece have all learned Monarchy this turn. That means we will be getting it next turn.

Good work switching us off of Monarchy! :goodjob:

Yup... Thanks alot FortyJ....

I didn't know that we could switch to engeenering ((didn't even to think about it), but if I did I probley wouldn't have done anything anywar, because of the major monarcy vs lit debate that happened.

And don't even think about trying to take my science office.... I want to keep it :)

Many civs won't have monarchy when we get it. Some have some decent cash on hand. Please examine and discuss probable Monarchy trades.

I would like to bring to everyone's attention my resignation thread:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=595772#post595772

Good Bye my Beutiful Science Department.

Just heard that you are going to stay. I am very glad. :D Welcome back!

Originally posted by gunning1
Just heard that you are going to stay. I am very glad. :D Welcome back!

Yeah....., but I never really left.... So you can't really welcome me back....

Strider, I am interested in being a Science Chat Rep :). I would like to be the Science Chat rep to help when Gunning has to split his duties between the Military Dept and the Science Dept like on what happened on the last turn chat :). Thanks :).

Originally posted by CivGeneral
Strider, I am interested in being a Science Chat Rep :). I would like to be the Science Chat rep to help when Gunning has to split his duties between the Military Dept and the Science Dept like on what happened on the last turn chat :). Thanks :).

Sure :)

What techs do we have? What is our short list for research? Our long term list? The polls listed in post 1 are generally out of date or not applicable.

It's great that you are posting lots of polls but we really need you to take care of Science first.

I would like to now the techs we actually have at the moment... could you provide us with a updated list?
And also i would like to know what we research now and how many turns it would take as well as which queue is in the save.

Thank you.

I have posted polls concerning the emergency building of a city to counter Denver (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37039) and the next city to be built in the NW area (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37014). Please vote ASAP if you wish to make your voice heard!

Please place your department vote in the Council Vote to confirm Cyc as deputy of the Northern Province. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37135)

The poll to switch to Monarchy in the upcoming chat is overwhelmingly in favor. LINK (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37117). All Leaders and citizens should make plans with the knowledge that we will be entering anarchy en route to Monarchy during the next chat.

I will be gone November 27- 29. My deputy will take over in the time I am gone...

Thanks, Strider.

I have posted a quick poll regarding rushing settlers to counter AI insurgency in the NW (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37883). Please vote ASAP if you wish to have your say on this issue! :goodjob:

Please cast your vote in the Council Vote to adopt PI tie-breaking standards (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37941).

Turn chat announcement

Octavian has already stated that he will be unable to act as DP at the coming TC, and I am not willing to start one at 3am. As such, I have decided that if I am the elected president come 00:01 GMT, I will be rescheduling the TC for 00:15am GMT, 2hours and 45 minutes earlier than currently scheduled. Since it will be sunday by that time I will arguably be within my rights to do so.

Term 4 Thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38041)