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Feb 18, 2010, 06:40 PM
Will there be any?
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View Full Version : Mac Support DocBrown Feb 18, 2010, 06:40 PM Will there be any? Vrenir Feb 18, 2010, 07:47 PM It'd be nice. I mean, they made an iPhone / iTouch version of CivRev, and I think that's paid off for them. I'd take CivV on the iPad, even if they don't bother to do a full version for OSX. Camikaze Feb 18, 2010, 08:03 PM I think I'll have to rely on BootCamp... Although, they probably will release it for Mac eventually, I would just bet it won't be for at least a few months after the Windows version. GKrause Feb 18, 2010, 08:57 PM I think I'll have to rely on BootCamp... Although, they probably will release it for Mac eventually, I would just bet it won't be for at least a few months after the Windows version. Sadly, this is probably the case. Am I really going to spend money for the Win versions and then buy the Mac version when it comes out later just so I don't have to switch boots back and forth? Sadly, also probably the case. :dunno: Vrenir Feb 18, 2010, 10:23 PM Well, I will probably run it in Bootcamp. So long as The Elder Scrolls are PC only, my old Monkey Island games are PC only, and the PC version of Civ has better features and modability than the Mac version (i.e. DLL flexibility), I will be using both partitions. It'd be nice to have it all together, but I don't see that day coming. I do still want this on iPad though, because that's another matter entirely. Even a new version of CivRev with the console graphics would work for me as a good mobile variant. civ_king Feb 18, 2010, 11:54 PM Elder Scrolls PC only? think again Monkey Island? think again! Vrenir Feb 19, 2010, 12:10 AM If you know something I don't, I'd love to hear it. As far as I am aware, some of the older Monkey Island games work on previous versions of Mac OS, but not OSX intel. A port of the new Tales of Monkey Island was just announced. The Elder Scrolls have never been made to work under Mac OS. You can use Bootcamp, Crossover Games (at low framerate with some glitches), or one of the other popular emulators (Parallels, etc - again with lower framerates due to the emulation). Zomgmeister Feb 19, 2010, 04:07 AM The Elder Scrolls are PC only TES 3: Morrowind — PC, Xbox. TES 4: Oblivion — PC, Xbox 360, PS3. OscarWildebeest Feb 19, 2010, 05:01 AM History tells us that Mac releases are a good nine months off the pace. So it will be released, yes, but not until 2011. Which is good, in a way, as I'm only now starting to feel comfortable with Civ4. Onagan Feb 19, 2010, 07:31 AM I hope Firaxis/2K games will develop the Mac version instead off outsourcing to Aspyr. Blue Monkey Feb 19, 2010, 09:29 AM Perspective of a committed MacMan (since 1984) who has a fair bit of experience with map-making & graphics and is currently learning professional level modeling & animation skills: I'll buy C5 only if the OSX version has the same modability as the other one. OscarWildebeest Feb 19, 2010, 09:57 AM That's a fair point, Blue Monkey. And in any case I'll want to wait for the first patch before committing myself. bio_hazard Feb 19, 2010, 10:02 AM It would be great to get a simultaneous or near-simultaneous OSX release from Firaxis but I'm not going to hold my breath. Not sure whether to hope for an iPad release- in some sense it will mean it is a fast and simple game that would run even faster on a laptop, but, you know, we've already got one console port, and I'd rather see a full game. civ_king Feb 19, 2010, 11:15 AM TES III: Morrowind GOTY Wrapper (http://www.mediafire.com/?ywkmzyvgg22) Install it into it TES IV: Oblivion Wrapper (http://www.mediafire.com/?nw2tjnde5dz) Instructions in violation of forum guidelines removed. Zero tolerance for piracy means zero tolerance. Vrenir Feb 19, 2010, 11:25 AM Nice, but the Morrowind link isn't good. civ_king Feb 19, 2010, 11:39 AM Nice, but the Morrowind link isn't good. Sorry, only wrapper I could find, the rest are all installed games, which is um... Vrenir Feb 19, 2010, 11:47 AM Thanks anyway. lostcause Feb 19, 2010, 01:43 PM Maybe they'll pull a Blizzard and make it run on Mac and Windows out of the box. I gave up on the Aspyr ports a while back. I didn't even bother with BtS for Mac as I had enough of the bugs in Vanilla and Warlords. How good are Cider ports? Maybe they could do that. civ_king Feb 19, 2010, 02:03 PM Maybe they'll pull a Blizzard and make it run on Mac and Windows out of the box. I gave up on the Aspyr ports a while back. I didn't even bother with BtS for Mac as I had enough of the bugs in Vanilla and Warlords. How good are Cider ports? Maybe they could do that. Cider is awesome when it works, I have a cider Oblivion cranked to max specs on a MacBook, the low end one too from Early 09 with 4GB RAM as the only change ancestral Feb 19, 2010, 04:28 PM Firaxis will likely do one of two options: do it in house (like what EA and Bioware are doing with their titles via Cider) or outsource, probably to Aspyr. The advantage with the former is we could see a hybrid disc; very cool for owners of both Macs and PCs, and would make the Mac version almost immediately available. The advantage with the latter is it might work a little better on older machines, as Cider has some stiff requirements, and I still question its efficiency and speed. Fact of the matter is there has always been a version of Civ for the Mac since the first version, and versions 2 and 4 have working multiplayer with PCs. civ_king Feb 19, 2010, 07:05 PM Actually Cider is best because some Cider ported games can run on OS Tiger! and the wrapper is very small and a Cider port takes less than 100 person-hours jb2386 Feb 20, 2010, 01:49 AM Argh, I'm moving to Germany next week for a year of study, which means I leave my PC at home and take my MacBook with me.... I would love a Mac version. *sigh* But I guess if worse comes to worse I can get bootcamp :/ lostcause Feb 20, 2010, 10:27 AM Argh, I'm moving to Germany next week for a year of study, which means I leave my PC at home and take my MacBook with me.... I would love a Mac version. *sigh* But I guess if worse comes to worse I can get bootcamp :/ Someone might know why (or could prove me wrong) that cIV ran better in Bootcamp on my MacBook than the Aspyr port did, so you might want to use bootcamp anyway. Also my Macbook would start having issues with anything larger than a small map with six civs on it towards the end of the game. I think it's going to be a wait and see on whether or not civ5 works on a macbook. EmpireOfCats Feb 20, 2010, 12:45 PM I had the Aspyr port of Civ IV and was not happy with it at all, no comparison to how it runs on the Win version I bought later (and run now). A native Mac version would be nice, and I fail to see why Blizzard can pump out both Mac and PC versions with little problems seemingly (Diablo III will be both, again), and the Civ people say they can't. The way Apple is selling these machines, you think they would sit up and take notice. If you have a Mac, you'll probably want Bootcamp. jb2386, the good news for you is that it is legal to buy OEM versions of Windows second-hand in Germany, based on a court decision that Microsoft doesn't like to talk about too much: http://www.jur-blog.de/grundlagen/rechtsanwalt/2008-01/handel-mit-gebrauchter-software-oem-software-lizenz-kein-schutz-fuer-hersteller/ Sorry, it's in German, but I guess if you are going to be here for year, you'll manage. Anyway, this means you can buy Win XP for about 30 euros on Ebay Germany, legally, install it with Bootcamp, and give Monty a good thrashing. Ornen Feb 20, 2010, 01:05 PM Given that Macs right now are exploding in popularity (most college campuses these days Mac and PC are at least even, if Mac isn't ahead - so that's what the next generation of computer users is probably going to look like), a lot more studios are opening up to Mac. Blizzard's been doing it since forever, but Bioware's doing it now too and so is EA with their big titles. civ_king Feb 20, 2010, 01:08 PM Or we could Cider Port it, I might have a working copy after I find my ****ing (PC) Disks and then we shall all be happy and nary glance upon Windows and Prance with our Macs Hugs MacBook If you truly hate Windows you could buy the Complete Edition and go to http://forum.portingteam.com/viewtopic.php?f=107&t=3723 and follow their instructions to get it to work Andrewicus Feb 20, 2010, 02:25 PM I tried sending a tweet since @CivGame already answered someone about the question of console versions to which they said "PC only" so I asked for clarification. Nothing yet. I'm hoping they don't go with Aspyr, Cider wrappers work excellently and then you have the EXACT same capabilities as PC users (as far as moddability), and it is a relatively simple process. The Sims 3 was originally going to be a delayed mac port but then they used Cider and now it's hybrid discs! Since cider is stupid easy (if the teams of hobbyists can do it then it can't be that blasted hard), I think our chances are pretty good of getting a mac version. The real question I think will be simultaneous hybrid disc release or delayed mac port release? I'm hoping for the former but with Dragon Age, they released it later as a separate downloadable version. Which of course means they can get more money out of people with both systems so I wouldn't be shocked if it went that way. But I will certainly add my voice to the "if it's not moddable like the PC version, then count me out' crowd. That's easily possible with Cider and I do hope that they go that route when they see that's what the people want :goodjob:. civ_king Feb 20, 2010, 02:36 PM I tried sending a tweet since @CivGame already answered someone about the question of console versions to which they said "PC only" so I asked for clarification. Nothing yet. I'm hoping they don't go with Aspyr, Cider wrappers work excellently and then you have the EXACT same capabilities as PC users (as far as moddability), and it is a relatively simple process. The Sims 3 was originally going to be a delayed mac port but then they used Cider and now it's hybrid discs! Since cider is stupid easy (if the teams of hobbyists can do it then it can't be that blasted hard), I think our chances are pretty good of getting a mac version. The real question I think will be simultaneous hybrid disc release or delayed mac port release? I'm hoping for the former but with Dragon Age, they released it later as a separate downloadable version. Which of course means they can get more money out of people with both systems so I wouldn't be shocked if it went that way. But I will certainly add my voice to the "if it's not moddable like the PC version, then count me out' crowd. That's easily possible with Cider and I do hope that they go that route when they see that's what the people want :goodjob:. You mean A HOBBYIST! |
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