Welcome to the Province of Bohemia.

Governor - FionnMcCumhall
Deputy - Plexus

Term 2 thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33295)

ANNOUNCEMENTS
Attn: For those wanting to be mayors. I have decided to not give out mayorship until we define our borders. Resons for doing so is i want to give future governors a chance to appoint people as well. I would like those that are currently governors to post queues in the discussion thread in the citizens forum, or place instructions here. Current city that doesnt have a moyor unless disorganizer wants it back is the City of Bavaria. Please Apply via PM. Telling why we should pick you as governor. Thanks Fionn

2nd Attn: Taking suggestion on the possible renaming of Tlaxcala

DISCUSSION
Build Queues - Term 3 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35489)

Welcome Fionn and Plexus.

I just came by to pick up my Fanatika Flag,....and this ashtray.... and this chair.......and this lamp...... :) have a good term.

dont wanna leave me the comfy chair :( ok guess ill have to order a new one :)

@cyc: can we have lamps yet? or is it one of those candle lamps? :D

Hello, Fionn, I hope we have a great term leading the Province of Bohemia. Do you have any work for me? :D

Good day gentlemen and congratulations to both on such a well fought campaign!
I am calling on you to see if I can be of any service. I notice that many of our great cities are without mayors. I will admit I am still a bit rough around the edges about our system of government but I think I have learned a great deal in my short time here. If I can be of assistance, please feel free to call on me.


@cyc, aren't you forgetting your dog? :mad: ok.....you don't need your dog.

Hey Donovan, how's it going?

Well, there are three mayor positions filled (Vallhalla, Bavaria and Morgana). (I know I can't officially appoint but, hey, might as well get the ball rolling).

The Cities of Kuhkaff, Tenochititlan, Tlaxcala, and Bremershaven are without Mayors, what one interests you the most?

Fionn & Plexus
Congratulations from the Cartographic Office! Bohemia is surely in good hands for the upcoming term.

As you know, as a member of the senate you have been granted city naming rights. Registration is not required, but will ensure that your city name is not bypassed even if you are not present at the turn chat. Please be sure to register your city name with our office (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34519).

Note: Plexus, I have received your city name and added it to the registry. Thanks for your prompt reply.

@ 40: no problem, I'm estatic I'm naming a city in the first place. :)

Glad to see you settling into office. Cyc left the revised suggested build queue for the next chat in the Term 2 thread. Please make sure you post the actual queue and tile optimizations to be used in the chat turn instruction thread.

Official City placement poll (part two) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35462). This one deals with the city after next, and is a quick poll

Again, time is short so please vote as soon as possible if you wish to influence the end decision!

Discussion on "landbridge" city sites (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35487) has been posted in the Citizen's Forum.

can i be mayor of a city? i promise i will take good care of it. pleeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaase? (makes sad face)

Fionn, my good man. The City of Penguin is aproaching its time to be built (after the two we are building, I believe). I am requesting Mayorship in advance for my penguinish city.
Thanks,
SaaM

assuming it falls under bohemia's control you shall have it :)

I'm going to request that you consider using your 1st week in office renaming powers to change the name of Tenochtitlan to "Eklektochtitlan". :)

Thank you. And Fionn- seeing how quickly you guys are working in Domestic, it may not.
Ekle- good idea. You kinda gave Fionn his name for Morgana and sacrificed your own naming rights. And After the honories and Octavium, its your city.

a name that just as hard to say as its predecessor :)

Plexus,

I would prefer to be mayor of Kuhkaff. Please talk with Fionn and then PM me or post here for a list of my duties. Oops, just saw Fionn's announcement. I will PM you shortly, Fionn.

Originally posted by Eklektikos
I'm going to request that you consider using your 1st week in office renaming powers to change the name of Tenochtitlan to "Eklektochtitlan". :)

oy.

A definitive poll regarding provincial borders (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35586) has been posted.

I have posted quick polls to decide where our next city will be placed (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35602) and where the city after that will be placed (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35605) also. Please vote in these polls as soon as possible if you wish to influence the final decision!

Mr Governor- The city of Penguin has been established (captured?). I am asking for mayorship of this city.

There ya go, SAaM. Good move. That's the way to get things done. :goodjob:

I apply for the function of mayor for the city of Bremershaven. This is actually my third attempt for this application, so I hope that it's in the right thread this time (thanks Eklektikos, btw)

The new cities and captured cities are all working on temples. These are just placeholder builds I put in until instruction from Bohemia's Governor could be given. The majority would be better served with building spearmen first for local defense and MP and a temple after that.

I have posted the run off poll for the province border definition issue (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35818). The choice is now down to two of FortyJ's proposals: "Capitol Province" & "Strictly Geographic 2". Please vote now to define the shape of our nation and the size of our Senate!

Governor of Bohemia, I'm not sure where the new polls are going to take us, or when (actually it looks like the Capital Province scheme is winning). But if it goes amiss, I would like to submit these entry items to the Governor's Office for review. I have listed only the first item to build in each city. Just a suggested way of getting us on track.

Kuhkaff - Spear, Valhalla - Settler, Bavaria - Sword, Morgana - Horseman, Bremershaven - Settler, Tlaxcala - Temple, Strider's Haven - Temple, The Barrow - Temple, Dacula - Settler, Penguin - Spear, Tenochtitlan - Settler, Octavinium - Temple

That's 4 Settlers, 4 Temples, 3 Spears, 1 Sword, and 1 Horse.
That should make the expansionists/culturalists happy. After these, I would lean heavily into Military units. Defensive for the East and Offensive for the west. Bavaria will need a Temple and Morgana will need to produce a Worker. Good luck!

Good suggestions, Cyc but I'd go 2 settlers and 5 spears right now. We still have many cities that are being undergarrisoned or garrisoned with swordsmen due to a lack of spears. Free up those offensive units with some quick spearman production.

Please have the temples changed to libraries unless there is a special reason for eliminating discontent in a city. Libraries are cheaper and produce more culture than temples.

We will keep to temples until we actually get Lit. Think of it as prebuilding them. Besides temples help with culture and will help with the unhappiness. But i await cultures take on this as well

Could the governor please post at least a tentative set of build queues, so I can get an idea of how many city sites we will need to have decided on before the chat?

My thought as Culture Head (and with growing agreement in the relevant thread in the Citizens forum) is to replace the Temples with Libraries as soon as we get Lit. Libraries provide more culture than Temples, and are cheaper, so unless there are happiness issues, they are the way for us to go. :D

Governor, we will need finalized build queues for all cities by tomorrow night. Please put up a proposal for the people to give you feedback on them.

im working on them still :) they will be up sometime before the end of the day

Build Queues

Bavaria - Swordsman, Heroic Epic?/Settler, Spearman
Valhalla - Settler, Swordsman, Settler
Teno - Temple, archer, settler
Octavium - temple, archer, worker
Morgana - Horseman, horesman, swordsman
Dacula - Temple,spearman, swordsman, barracks
Tlaxcala - Temple, spearman, barracks
Penquin - spearman, library, spearman, barracks
Kuhkaff - Spearman, Library, barracks
Bremershaven - Temple, settler, spearman, barracks
Strider's Haven - Temple, spearman, barracks
The Burrow - Temple, Spearman, Barracks

If we get a city from the aztecs in peace negotiations or continue taking them by force build spearman for defense.

Continue to build roads to connect the cities and micromanage the cities for growth purposes

We need depth there. At least 3 deep, preferably much more.

they will i want to get reaction to the initial ones first and get moreimput into what else the cities should build aside from military units :)

Well. my first response is put back in the 3 settlers. Not only will they help with needed expansion, but also keep the cities at a manageable pop level.

I agree with the settlers. We need a fair mix of 50% military (includes spears to go with settlers, spears to garrison existing cities and new horsemen), 25% expansion (settlers) and 25% culture.

I have posted Quick Polls to decide the placement of the first (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35978), second (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35979) and third (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35981) cities during the upcoming November 8th turn chat. These polls have been set to remain open for 24 hours only, so please vote as soon as possible to ensure the cities are built in the right place at the right time!

does anyone have anything to say about the heroic epic being built in bavaria

Sounds like great Idea. It doesn't take long to build, so let's knock it out.

Don't forget to post your queues to the Chat instruction thread. We also need tile optimizations listed, where appropriate. We are currently running with the single scientist research approach so fit him in where you think best.

hey fionn chek your private messages!

Originally posted by FionnMcCumhall
does anyone have anything to say about the heroic epic being built in bavaria

I think that is the place to build it. We can have it done in 20 turns if we let Bavaria use the game tile currently being used by Morgana and then work an additional forest tile when Bavaria grows to size 5 in six turns.

ok as long as the queues are ok ill post them later on in the day

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has posted an informational poll regarding the establishment of embassies (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36142).

All citizens are encouraged to participate.

Here is my suggestion for the build queues for the Provance of Bohemia. The list does not pertain to any particular city.

Temples (To solitify our borders and prevent any Culture flips)
Settlers
Horsemen (If any city is connected to horses)
Swordsmen (If any city is connected to Iron)

BTW. I know you may have already place them in your build queues, But this is something also to put in your mind :).

With all deference to CivGeneral, I would suggest building Libraries instead of Temples as they are cheaper for us and provide 50% more culture than temples.

Also, I would completely shut down all swordsmen production in favor of horsemen. We will be in the Age of Knights and our swordsmen will be outclassed soon enough. Once we are able, we shall want to upgrade these horsemen to knights so that we can mantain our military supremacy.

Edit: Changed text to "more culture than temples".

Originally posted by FortyJ
With all deference to CivGeneral, I would suggest building Libraries instead of Temples as they are cheaper for us and provide 50% more culture than libraries.

Just as long as there is a solid culture in the cities without culture, I am happy :).

We will be in the Age of Knights and our swordsmen will be outclassed soon enough. We are in the Middle ages already?! :eek:
Boy I must be away from the turn chats a little too long, Darn thoes Early Bird Turn Chats :crazyeye:.

Well I can revise my suggestion to replace the swordsmen and build Knights :).

I'd like at least one harbor post haste. Morgana is the best city for this production. This will open up trade routes with AI civs that have also built harbors. It will also help Morgana's growth which is currently stifled.

Part from the harbor we need to identify exactly how many spearmen we need to form city suppression...er...support. 2 spears per city. This will free up the swords that are currently doing garrison duty. We need to plan an additional spear for each settler planned. Horsemen are the offensive unit of choice for new construction.

Culture is important in the land bridge area and we need to consider rushing temples (not libraries) in those cities. This is also a concern to the far west where we are close to opposing borders.

I would like to see 50% unit construction, mixed to generate an effective horse assault force with spear backup within 20 turns and all cities having 2 spear backup. Another 25% should be cultural buildings including the possibly rushed temples and as many libraries as could be fit in. The last 25% would be the harbor and some marketplaces in large growth cities plus settlers.

hmmm. temples are cheaper? i thought we were scientific + military, not religious and military?

EDIT:
forget it. i got confused cause forty mistyped libraries for temples :-)

Libraries are cheaper but cannot be rushed.

Plus Libraries can also help with our Sciece rate

Dis
Thanks for noticing my typo. I've corrected it.

Shaitan
I must admit that I am not totally versed with which structures may be rushed, if any, and under what circumstances. I've tried to think how we could rush a Library, but it seems like you may be correct. ;)

@FortyJ - Polls determined that we may rush temples but not libraries while in a despotism government.

it wont matter much anyways by the time wednesdays t/c comes about ill be sitting on my butt anyways awaiting till i get my province (northern) which is one i take under protest

Fionn: Seeing as you are Gov of the South Eastern Province, I am asking for mayorship of Penguin.
Thank you.

New Province thread:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36425

The poll to switch to Monarchy in the upcoming chat is overwhelmingly in favor. LINK (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37117). All Leaders and citizens should make plans with the knowledge that we will be entering anarchy en route to Monarchy during the next chat.