View Full Version : SHAKA's FIST


Zachriel
Nov 02, 2002, 05:24 PM
http://www.zachriel.com/Images/Shaka-50.jpg
There is an old Bakusu proverb,
Man is like a palm on the beach; moving with the wind of life.

http://www.zachriel.com/gotm12/zulu/treebackground.jpg

SHAKA's FIST
http://www.zachriel.com/gotm12/

http://www.zachriel.com/gotm12/Animals/adopt_bubba_a75.jpg

WARNING: Some depictions of Africans in native dress (partial nudity)!

bork
Nov 02, 2002, 06:56 PM
the best I've ever read from you,only one icon (smiley) is appropiate (5 to be specific)
http://images.tweakers.net/forum/smileys/worshippy.gifhttp://images.tweakers.net/forum/smileys/worshippy.gifhttp://images.tweakers.net/forum/smileys/worshippy.gifhttp://images.tweakers.net/forum/smileys/worshippy.gifhttp://images.tweakers.net/forum/smileys/worshippy.gifhttp://images.tweakers.net/forum/smileys/worshippy.gif

Please continue with your saga Zachriel

Thunderfall
Nov 02, 2002, 10:49 PM
Good job Zachriel! :)

col
Nov 03, 2002, 07:21 AM
I found that quite a few of the pix weren't displaying ,Zachriel.

Otherwise excellent as usual.
Especially liked the soundtrack!

Watergate
Nov 03, 2002, 08:17 AM
Marvellous. Especially love those proverbs. Thank u 4 great entertainment. Please keep on.

Father Time
Nov 03, 2002, 10:45 AM
I must say that was a most excellent timeline! ^_^
Keep up the good work, I can't wait to see more from you!

JonathanValjean
Nov 03, 2002, 09:15 PM
Great work, Zachriel! I look forward to the next chapter of your epic! Thanks for putting that much time into your work. It certainly shows. The site was quite slow, and I'm thinking that is because there are countless others viewing your excellence. All that traffic had brought the server to a crawl, but I waited patiently. When the content is as good as yours, I'll gladly wait.

Lucky Dragon
Nov 03, 2002, 11:04 PM
:cool:
Nice game summary... Excellent job on the website design. One comment though: I use Netscape v7 and the background music doesn't play with that browser... just FYI.

Bismarck
Nov 03, 2002, 11:46 PM
Superb job as usual. The literary Jeanne D'Arc epic is still my favourite, but this one was colourful and inspiring.

Ronald
Nov 05, 2002, 02:36 PM
Hi Zachriel,

Excellent story, you are amazing me every month again!:goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob:

Where do you get these quotes? Is there a source for them or are you making them up (great imagination if you make them up)?

What happened to the last two chapters? When I was trying to read them, I only got a picture of Lincoln and happy holloween. Something wrong with my browser or with your website?

best regards

Ronald

satchel
Nov 05, 2002, 03:58 PM
Zachriel, I've said this before, but your game stories are truly magnificent. They are an inspiring paean to the beauty of CivIII! Thanks for your hard work and thanks for sharing. I never get tired of reading them.

Hellfire
Nov 05, 2002, 05:55 PM
WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 :eek:

I tend to read this website at work. While I have no personal objection to it, there is some nudity on Zachriel's storyline here. If you find this objectionable please beware. Be EXTRA careful if you read this stuff at work (some people at my job would object to even "culturally acceptable toplessness" that some african women practice).

Zachriel I don't wish you to compromise your artistic integrity but if you do this again could you place a warning somewhere, like in the post here? I'd really appreciate it!

Otherwise, as usual, absolutely superb! :)

Zachriel
Nov 06, 2002, 06:28 AM
Originally posted by Ronald

What happened to the last two chapters? When I was trying to read them, I only got a picture of Lincoln and happy holloween. Something wrong with my browser or with your website?



Server load has been rather heavy lately due to the unexpected popularity of Shaka's Fist. Try again. That last two chapters are worth it, I think, especially the STACK of TOTAL CONTROL.

(I have no idea where the Lincoln picture came from. :confused:)

http://www.zachriel.com/gotm12/zulu/mask150.gif

Zachriel
Nov 06, 2002, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by Hellfire
WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

I tend to read this website at work. While I have no personal objection to it, there is some nudity on Zachriel's storyline here. If you find this objectionable please beware.

:lol:

Sorry about that. But they really do dress like that in parts of Africa, and I find it very beautiful and appropriate. Think National Geographic.

:lol:

(I will consider a warning next time. Let me see Aztecs. Ripping their beating hearts out as an act of piety.

Kid: Why can't we go see the sacrifice?
Mom: Not till you do your homework.
Kid: Then can we go?
Mom: Yes, then we can go. I hear they are going to sacrifice a thousand virgins.
Kid: What's a virgin?)

:lol:

Anyway, I agree that not everyone may share my "appreciation" of traditional African costumes, so I added a warning on the main page to account for varying tastes. Thanks!

Zachriel
Nov 06, 2002, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by Ronald

Where do you get these quotes? Is there a source for them or are you making them up (great imagination if you make them up)?



They are real, traditional Proverbs and Sayings of Africa.

I wanted to depict Shaka as a man of learning and wisdom. Having unified the African people, I thought the fictional Shaka could draw together the knowledge of the various tribes. Just the names of the tribes -- the Bakusu, the Nilotic, the Luyia, the Bateke, the Tumbuka -- add a lot of flavor to the storyline.

He, who learns, teaches.

Shaka's Wisdom

col
Nov 06, 2002, 07:32 AM
Wonderful stuff. You really get a feel for each culture and that adds so much to the accounts. I love the pix and sayings....

Of course you ought to go back and play GOTM 1-4 so we can read those accounts too!

I read it at work - sneaking behind the monitor as per ususa. Got funny looks when the drums started. :lol:

cgannon64
Nov 06, 2002, 05:47 PM
Zachriel, how do you manage to get all of those proverbs and cultural tidbits? I must say, your last two reports have been your best so far.

(At least now you are using threads to advertise, not just individual posts ;))

CG

Skyfish
Nov 07, 2002, 02:31 PM
SUPER SITE GREAT WORK !

I secretly suspect you are the musician as well...but I am probably wrong !

Please play GOTM 1 to 4 and tell some more great stories !

PLEEEAAAASE !

Merci beaucoup du fond du coeur,

Jim The Hick
Nov 12, 2002, 11:57 AM
your website kicks butt....very entertaing! I didn't think I could be so enthralled by a game account.

Zachriel
Nov 19, 2002, 07:23 AM
The story of Shaka's Fist also depicts Shaka's Spear, Shaka's Shield, Shaka's Eyes and Shaka's Hand Outstretched. But the story is entitled Shaka's Fist. Why?

Shaka's Fist was told to make the point -- a point that experienced players and students of history know -- when you commit to war, you must commit totally. You must gather all your strength, risk all your strength, and pledge your Civilization to the success of your attack.

If you piecemeal your attacks, then when you are repulsed, the enemy will heal, will promote, and will reinforce. Be patient. Gather your strength. If you do, then when war does come, your soldiers will suffer less -- and just as important, your citizens, new and old, will be able to enjoy the fruits of your victory.

Create an army to match your ambitions and you will succeed.

http://www.zachriel.com/gotm12/Fists/Fist3.gif

Cheops
Nov 19, 2002, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by Hellfire
WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 :eek:

I tend to read this website at work. While I have no personal objection to it, there is some nudity on Zachriel's storyline here. If you find this objectionable please beware. Be EXTRA careful if you read this stuff at work (some people at my job would object to even "culturally acceptable toplessness" that some african women practice).

Zachriel I don't wish you to compromise your artistic integrity but if you do this again could you place a warning somewhere, like in the post here? I'd really appreciate it!

Otherwise, as usual, absolutely superb! :)

Or another option would be to provide nudity in ALL of your posts, preferrably of asian women [dance] . . . even if you're not playing an asian Civ. ;-)

Cheops :egypt:

Zachriel
Nov 19, 2002, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by Cheops
Or another option would be to provide nudity in ALL of your posts

We'll take that under consideration. Aztecs, feathers. Might be interesting. :lol: There was also a nude in Queen of Thebes.

Clicking here indicates that it is legal in your jurisdiction to look at artist depictions of naked, seductively posed, dead Queens. ;)
http://www.zachriel.com/gotm9/ad2000-Thebes.htm
http://www.zachriel.com/gotm9/Egypt/cartouche.gif

Note: The aforementioned female images in Shaka's Fist were used as traditional African fertility symbols during peaceful and prosperous periods of Shaka's History.

http://www.webzinemaker.net/africans-art/photo/photo_229_1.jpg

alamo
Nov 20, 2002, 03:37 PM
My compliments on the work. An epic tome to be sure. Just one thing, though - what misfortune of youth drove poor shaka to conquer the world?

Zachriel
Nov 20, 2002, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by alamo
My compliments on the work. An epic tome to be sure. Just one thing, though - what misfortune of youth drove poor shaka to conquer the world?

There was a survey of world leaders on that subject a while back. Here are the findings:

http://www.zachriel.com/justification.htm

http://www.zachriel.com/Images/Shaka-Industrial-118.jpg

alamo
Nov 20, 2002, 06:11 PM
Ah, the classic - "Because I can". Simple but effective.

I though it would be for years of humiliation and slavery as a prisoner of tribal warfare. Gandih and Mao have more humorous answers.

Too bad there is not more cultural differences a la SMAC. History is certainly rich enough and it would give the choice of tribe more significance.

Zachriel
Nov 21, 2002, 06:54 AM
During the survey interview when asked "Why we fight?" Shaka laughed and answered, "Because we can." But I'm not really sure if he was kidding or not.

Zachriel
Nov 23, 2002, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by Zachriel
During the survey interview when asked "Why we fight?" Shaka laughed and answered, "Because we can." But I'm not really sure if he was kidding or not.

I had a chance to re-interview Shaka (as you know his term of office lasts until 2050 AD, so he is hard to contact). He tersely said to pay close attention to his words. "Why war? Because WE can." Then he added quietly, "Because other nations make war, then Shaka must make war too, but Vita si uji." *

After a short pause, he said, "Skill in war can reduce the destruction." Shaka's Fist. He continued more impassioned, "Some national leaders, just to further their own ambition, will starve civilians, keep slaves with no hope of eventual citizenship, even raze entire cities."

Then he quoted a poet of some arcane tribe from the far distant Isle of Britain,
"' 'tis expressly
against the law of arms: 'tis as arrant a piece of
knavery, mark you now, as can be offer't; in your
conscience, now, is it not?'" **

Shaka Said, "I pointed out to you the stars and all you saw was the tip of my finger."

Then, he abruptly ended the interview.


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* Vita si uji. (Gikuyu Tribe), War is not porridge.
http://www.afriprov.org/resources/explain2001.htm#jul2001

** From Shakespeare's history, Henry V.
http://www.rhymezone.com/r/gwic.cgi?Path=shakespeare/histories/kinghenryv/iv_vii//&Word=kill+the+poys+and+the+luggage

Zachriel
Jan 27, 2003, 07:19 PM
I don't know how I could have missed this West African Proverb, "Speak softly and carry a big stick. You will go far." This proverb was brought to America by none other than U.S. President Teddy Roosevelt. Check the link for the very interesting documentation.

http://www.newgenevacenter.org/portrait/roosevelt-t.jpg

http://www.raabautographs.com/autographs/autographs_1.html




(Edit. Learned it on American Experience on PBS. Then did a little research to substantiate what I had heard.)

RufRydyr
Jan 28, 2003, 07:09 AM
Teddy also said many other things that make great quotes. Last week on the History Channel they showed TR-An American Lion. They'll probably replay it.

Von Karstein
Jan 28, 2003, 11:19 AM
great site. Keep it up!!!!!!!!!!