Continued from the Altered Maps insanity, and then the continuation of OT Poster Empires insanity, I bring you Imperium Offtopicum.

The problem with the last thread, I feel, was the lack of a set of rules for players, allowing godmodding on a scale I have never seen before.

The rules for this thread are simple, but hopefully effective:

1. :nuke: NO NUKES!!! :nuke:

2. We must make a CIVIL consensus on what the map should be like.

3. We will form an in-game UN to negotiate stuff. Unlike the real UN, everyone is equal. We can discuss the finer details of the UN here, or maybe in a separate UN thread.

4. We all define the specs of our country(please no godmod central, even a superpower like the United States has its limits, and so should your country). Try to be reasonable with your size, and if you are very large, at least give yourself some weakness.

5. Battles take place on a maximum of 10 pixels, this measured by the map we choose to be the standard.
5a. Final borders are not decided until after a war; the white border cannot change until a war is over. Occupied areas will be colored the color of the occupier.

6. You must also respect the forum rules as a whole in addition to these. Think state and national law. ;)

7. Colors, for the most part, will be given on a first-come, first-serve basis. In advance, I call a lighter shade of black.

8. Country claims will also be mostly decided on a first-come, first-serve basis. You will be able to claim a modest area free of any interference(unless someone else claimed it), but if you become uber-massive, you will be subject to scrutiny by the UN/consensus. Choose your core territory wisely. I choose my last game's territory of the Low Countries, Ireland, France, and Britain, without the overseas territories of the last two. My core will be the area around the Channel.

The Laws of War

Yes. These pesky things. You may attack whoever you want, but, like gentleman in a spar, we have rules.

1. All the rules related to war listed above.

2. You may attack anyone and anywhere at anytime, but you may only attack once, and then give them a chance to strike back, before attacking again.

3. When an attacker's force is repelled, the defender can choose to counterattack, and the former attacker(now the defender) will lose one from their die roll, to give the counterattacker an advantage. This represents rallying one's soldiers against a retreating enemy, likely with ugly results upon the enemy forces.

4. Battles are decided by 5 sets of die rolls(a die roll consisting of two dice, one the attacker and one the defender) : 1 set by the attacker, 1 by the defender, and 3 by a neutral party(whether it be 3 posters or just 1 can be decided on). This gives each side it's own chance of bias, but a neutral party can balance out such bias.

5. Neutral die rollers are elected by the UN.

6. When attacking a non-contiguous nation or part of a nation, the attacker suffers a distance penalty, where the defender's die roll automatically has a 1 added to it. This shall represent the greater headache and disadvantage attacking from a distance can have upon an army. The distance penalty would not apply overland via allies, i.e. the CSA could attack Maryland without penalty, if it was allied with the USA.

Please tell me the name of your country, and make a post detailing it. Also tell me it's location so that I can add it to the map. I'll update the map with each contribution.

The Island Confederacy of the Pacific

Australia, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, the Major Indonesian Islands (in size and importance), and a bunch of random islands in the Pacific. (As well as Hawaii)

I will submit more information after I see how other people have done it.

edit: I call dark navy. :)

I support this decision and for my country, Marylander Empire:Maryland, Delaware, Bermuda, Barbados, Navassa Island, Crimea, Ireland and South West Africa (same as last time) edit: my color Dark Green

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h50/Taniciusfox/ImperiumOffTopicum14.png

Shaded bars indicate current claims on territories.

Countries:

Marian Empire(black) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8996519&postcount=6) - Taniciusfox

Marylander Empire(dark green) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8996896&postcount=55) - formerly Mad Man 2.0; currently administered by JoeCoolyo until end of Maryland War

Corsica-Sardinia(Brown) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8996786&postcount=38) - Mangxema

The Original Thirteen States of America(blue) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8999070&postcount=113) - Omega124

Choxornese Empire(red) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8999627&postcount=134) - Choxorn

The Confederate States of America(gray) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8996890&postcount=54) - DroopyTofu

Socialist State of Ukraine(Orange) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8996799&postcount=42) - landlubber

The Israeli Republic( light blue) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8997112&postcount=68) - Joecoolyo

The Librul Republik of Pacifistan(light blue on the Pacific) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8996759&postcount=33) - Owen Glyndwr

California Republic(shade of purple in the former USA + Japan) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8997704&postcount=95) - CivGeneral

Tibet(pink) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=9000950&postcount=212) - lil_post_count

CCCP(dark red) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8997683&postcount=91) - Love

Holy C! (no color yet, centered on the Vatican) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=9000960&postcount=214) - Perfection

DysUtopia / Topia (Yellow green) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8999942&postcount=157) - civplayah

Democratic Republic of Fenix(color not yet given) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=9004131&postcount=285) - TheAlamo

Empire of Carthaginistan(Light Orange) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=9001618&postcount=226) - taillesskangaru

Pirates of the Sid Meier(Lime) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=9011364&postcount=468) - Double A

Republic of Zelalta (Gold in Scandinavia) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=9015374&postcount=564) - ZeletDude

Country name not given(purple) - Momma Birdflu

Peronia(blackish gray) - Virote Consideron


United Kingdom of Great Britain and Canada (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=9029567&postcount=795) - e350tb

Nathoslan(yellow) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=9037336&postcount=879) - Stylesrj


Diplomacy

Wars

Maryland War(Maryland vs. CSA and USA)

Current narrow advantage in favor of Maryland

American Invasion of Panama(USA vs. Israel, CCCP, Choxornese Empire)

Panama occupied by United States; Israel, CCCP, and Choxornese Empire all strike back at the Canal and American homeland

Alliances

Pan-American Alliance(The CSA, Thirteen States)

Socialist Alliance(CCCP, Israeli Republic, Choxornese Empire, Ukraine, Topia, Fenix)

Neutral Alliance(Pacifistan)

Oceanic Defense Pact(Maryland, Marian Empire, Carthagistan) - Three-way mutual defense pact, with special opt-outs for the Marian Empire(in the event Maryland's homeland is attacked; only it's overseas territories will be protected, where the Marian military will be most capable) and Carthagistan(Carthagistan will not commit itself to any conflict against Israel).

Pacific Security Treaty(California Republic, Marian Empire, Oceanicstan) - Self-defense pact between all three states.

Other agreements

American Economic Union(CSA, Thirteen States, Pacifistan, California Republic)

Marian-American Free Trade Agreement (Marian Empire, Pacifistan, California Republic)

Marian Worldwide Cultural Exportation Agreement (Marian Empire with Pacifistan and Israel)

I'll be the bigger man and let you have Ireland.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h50/Taniciusfox/MarianEmpireIOT-1.png

(Black is the core area, red is the outlying areas that I will be willing to part with if a large enough majority votes in favor of it in the UN)

Country name: Marian Empire

Motto: "Commerce facilitates power; power facilitates commerce."

Army: Well-trained, with enough manpower to hold it's own; militarily is primarily defensive, with a smaller, specially-equipped offensive force to project power when necessary.

Air force: Average-sized but well-trained, capable of holding control of the skies around the Empire.

Navy: Extremely massive. Most "defense" :mischief: funding is poured into the navy, in order to ensure top-of-the-line artillery, operational range, carrier technology, etc.

Capital: Brusparilon - A massive floating city, anchored into the seabed(though capable of severing the connections and floating away) and wedged between the three constituent republics of the Empire(Burgundy, Britain and France). This not only keeps the old nationalist sentiments from flaring up by choosing any particular land city, but also serves as an incentive to keep the navy large and capable of controlling much of the seas around Europe and the Atlantic.

Development rating: First World

Economic style: Primarily capitalist, with social programs meant to facilitate growth and innovation

Economy and Industry: The Marian Empire is a typical first world country, focusing on mass-produced hard goods as well as high end technology, leaving the necessities of life to the lesser nations. The Marian Empire prides itself on it's cultural power, being one of the largest producers of entertainment - comics, animation, videogames, etc. Much of this entertainment features furries in main character positions, hence the country being very pro-furry, to the point many furries move or visit often. (Victims of fursecution also, in practice, have an easy path to citizenship)

The high end technology usually is civilian, given the country's emphasis on commercial, rather than military development("A vault is meant to be a small investment to protect the gold; if you pour all the gold into the vault, you have no gold left to protect" - Marius on the issue of military spending and commerce). However, much of it's technology has been spun into military useage; the great presence of cyberspace has facilitated the rise of cyberterrorists and some of the finest counter-hackers in the world, while the advances in genetics and reality simulation serve not only to improve leisure activities and quality of life, but also to facilitate military training and, controversially, forays into genetic mutation.

Political setup: Rubber stamp democracy; the President(co-head of government) simultaneously holds the positions of Prime Minister(co-head of government), King(head of state), and Imperator(head of military). The bicameral Parliament has been disemboweled of any real power, now serving as an advisory council that rubber stamps all Presidential initiatives.

Social policy: Moderate, but fairly liberal when judged to be in the best interests of the nation

Foreign policy: Very conservative with use of force, seeking to open up trade routes and increase commerce above all else. For the sake of survival, the Marian Empire aligns with the capitalist states that share it's economic way of life. The Marian Empire's "development aid" budget, supposedly designed to provide humanitarian assistance and support the growth of the world economy, also tends to ship aid to the "needy" individuals who oppose enemy governments.

I take Corsica and Sardinia as before, capital Sassari. I have no interest to be an empire, just have my own little dominion. I'll be brown as before as well.

Byzantine Republic

Population: 265 million
Military Size: 3 million ( mobilization potential, at least 132 million)
Human Development Index: .995
Gross Domestic Product: 17 Trillion BD (Byzantine Dollar)
Capital (and largest city): Constantinople
Ethnic Groups: 67% Byzantine, 3% jewish, 10% American, 20% Arabic.
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Current emperor: Barabas IV (1991- present) (barabas Dyantasy took over circa 1890)
Establishment: Roman Kingdom 753 BC, Roman Republic 509 BC, Roman Empire 27 BC Byzantine Empire 330 AD, Byzantine Republic 1890 AD.
Religion: 67% Christianity 28% Islam, 3% jewish, 2% minor religions.
Area: 1,795,232.6 km2
population denisty: 144.8 people km2

military: strong all around, but navy is a tad stronger

technology: around 2010 level, greatly expanded space program, moon base, and one carrier plane (a massive plane that carries plane, more may be completed)

colony in south America, Self sufficient and densely populated.

warning: there are no nationalist groups wanting independence.

color light blue or the color indicated on the map.

Map of Byzantium
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j195/mathalamus/BlankMap-World.png

The Island Confederacy of the Pacific

Australia, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, the Major Indonesian Islands (in size and importance), and a bunch of random islands in the Pacific. (As well as Hawaii)

I will submit more information after I see how other people have done it.

edit: I call dark navy. :)

I support this decision and for my country, Marylander Empire:Maryland, Delaware, Bermuda, Barbados, Navassa Island, Crimea, Ireland and South West Africa (same as last time) edit: my color Dark Green

I'll work on adding these. Remember to state which areas are your cores, so that you do have a set area of land you get to keep regardless of how the UN/whatever it'll be called votes. ;)

Mad Man, what do you mean by South West Africa? :confused: As in, a general range of countries?

Edit: Never mind. Souther West Africa, i.e. all those small countries along the coast, you mean?

I'll be the bigger man and let you have Ireland.

:) Danke!

The (Original Thirteen) States of America

(Official name is The United States of America, but is more commonly known as The Original Thirteen States of America)

Color: Dark Blue, just like the Blue on Americia's flag.

Comprises of:

Mass.
Maine (Part of Mass.)
New Hampshire
Conn.
Rhode Island
New York
Vermont (Part of New York)
New Jersey
Penn.
Delaware
Maryland
Virginia
West Virginia (Part of Virginia)
North Carolina
South Carolina
Georgia

(Map real soon!)

I'll take what I had last time: Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Maldives, Sri Lanka, Bangledesh, Nepal, Bhutan, Myanmar, Thailand, Taiwan, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, and the Solomon Islands. I don't have time for a map right now.

And color red.

I'll take what I had last time: Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Maldives, Sri Lanka, Bangledesh, Nepal, Bhutan, Myanmar, Thailand, Taiwan, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, and the Solomon Islands. I don't have time for a map right now.

And color red.

you need a weakness to have a nation of that size.

I'm a bunch of really poor nations, aren't I? :p

I'm a bunch of really poor nations, aren't I? :p

so that means you are sort of backwards, and your still facing massive problems with food, water, etc.

you need a weakness to have a nation of that size.

Make him a communistic country, then. Gasp in amazement as he drives his ecomony so badly that it would make Bernie Madoff cry in shame.

Yeah, I have a bunch of stuff but it's mostly crap.

Make him a communistic country, then. Gasp in amazement as he drives his ecomony so badly that it would make Bernie Madoff cry in shame.

communist countries is an advantage in war. i really don't want to deal with a billion plus nation stomping on Anatolia.

communist countries is an advantage in war. i really don't want to deal with a billion plus nation stomping on Anatolia.

I would like to direct you to the Winter War and the Soviet campaign in Afghanistan. That is all.

I would like to direct you to the Winter War and the Soviet campaign in Afghanistan. That is all.

ah. i still don't know how the soviet union lost the winter war but the Afghanistan war is well documented.

I already claimed all major Islands in Indonesia Choxorn.

I already claimed all major Islands in Indonesia Choxorn.

which reminds me, how would you like an alliance?

ah. i still don't know how the soviet union lost the winter war but the Afghanistan war is well documented.

Oh yeah, I also forgot Korea as well. One of the most powerful countries in the world (China), couldn't even take a half of a peninsula.

It seems like, with the exception of Vietnam and Bay of Pigs, the only time a Communistic country wins if it is fighting another communistic country. WWII doesn't count because it was a joint fight of multiple Democracies and a Communist against two Fascists.

I already claimed all major Islands in Indonesia Choxorn.

My next map update(which will have the Thirteen States in it), I'll give him the islands leftover in Indonesia. Unless there happens to be a council ruling(I doubt we'll ever have this issue unless someone wants to be an uber-superpower), most of Indonesia is likely to stay yours.

Oh yeah, I also forgot Korea as well. One of the most powerful countries in the world (China), couldn't even take a half of a peninsula.

It seems like, with the exception of Vietnam and Bay of Pigs, the only time a Communistic country wins if it is fighting another communistic country. WWII doesn't count because it was a joint fight of multiple Democracies and a Communist against two Fascists.

two? i counted three. but i guess Italy did nothing but lose.

I should have posted a bookmark post for diplomatic affairs... I guess I'll just put it in the world map post so we can keep track of alliances. Make sure to add any specific details of your alliance in a certain post(negotiate the details via PM, please), so that I may link to it on the front page.

Edit: Mathalamus and Omega, I don't mean to sound rude, but please continue your discussion in either:

1. The History forum
2. private messages/IMs/etc. Whatever works for you. :)
3. Off-topic; be aware that the topic would be closed/moved if it doesn't fit the area, however.

Not to insult your discussion, of course(I'm following with interest), but this isn't the right thread for it. :)

My next map update(which will have the Thirteen States in it), I'll give him the islands leftover in Indonesia. Unless there happens to be a council ruling(I doubt we'll ever have this issue unless someone wants to be an uber-superpower), most of Indonesia is likely to stay yours.

OOC: See below

I support this decision and for my country, Marylander Empire:Maryland, Delaware, Bermuda, Barbados, Navassa Island, Crimea, Ireland and South West Africa (same as last time) edit: my color Dark Green

IC: There seems to be a conflict of land between our nations. Our very first state is in your lands, and so is the state with the most awesomest commercial in the world (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sZuN0xXWLc). Give them both up, or we have a war between us.

two? i counted three. but i guess Italy did nothing but lose.

Riiight... I failed there. And it doesn't help Italy was the first of them to go fasist.

Also, the Italians were kinda awesome in Africia both Eithopia and Egypt, but they still got pwn'd.

Sweet, this time we actually get rules! Omega124, there's no way I could convince you to cede me your land from Virginia south so that I may resurrect the Confederate States of America, is there? If not, I'll gladly take about what I had last time, with a few changes. If the CSA falls through, I want Brazil, Argentina, Uraguay, Paraguay, Venezula, Columbia, Bolivia, and Panama.

Is it okay if I lay a double claim until I get an answer from Omega124? Please, Omega, I promise I'll be a real nice neighbor! :please: :deal:

Sorry, but the awesomeness of Virginia (And West Virginia) is not for sale. However, a bribe from you /might/ allow me to cede the rest of the south. So, name your bribe.

Uh, what do you want? I can live without Virginia. I'll give a bunch of Southern Hospitality. :deal:

Seriously, what do you want? Name your price.

For assistance in reclaiming Maryland and Delaware. Allowing me to keep Georgia and the Carolinas (There is a lot of other states in the CSA) and helping me reclaim those states, I'll throw in a free alliance, plus an X amount of money EACH TURN. Hopefully, the two of us can survive peacefully!

Mad Man, what do you mean by South West Africa? :confused: As in, a general range of countries?

Edit: Never mind. Souther West Africa, i.e. all those small countries along the coast, you mean?
You got it dude;)
The (Original Thirteen) States of America

(Official name is The United States of America, but is more commonly known as The Original Thirteen States of America)

Color: Dark Blue, just like the Blue on Americia's flag.

Comprises of:

Mass.
Maine (Part of Mass.)
New Hampshire
Conn.
Rhode Island
New York
Vermont (Part of New York)
New Jersey
Penn.
Delaware
Maryland
Virginia
West Virginia (Part of Virginia)
North Carolina
South Carolina
Georgia

(Map real soon!)

Maryland and Delaware are already spoken for sorry:p

So now you're keeping Georgia, the Carolinas, and Virginia? Isn't that all the land I'd originally asked for? If I can get GA, SC, and NC, I'll help get you Maryland and Deleware. I'd also ally with you. As your ally, I'd suggest extending your territory west. I'm taking as far west as Texas, if I can get the Atlantic coast. I think it would be in your best interest to claim west at least to Illinois.

I still lay a partial claim to the afore mentioned lands in South America if I can't work out a deal with Omega.

I would like my neutral nation back, please. Same borders are fine

This is what it looked like, in case anyone's confused

http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss3/GruffyddGlyndwr/LibrulRepublikofPacifica.jpg

Country name: Librul Republik of Pacifistan

National Anthem: Scott McKenzie "San Francisco"

Army: Small, but extremely well trained. Due to it's neutral status, Pacifistan doesn't put a heavy emphasis on military, just enough of a force to deter any greedy dictators from trying to gobble it up.

Air force: Equally small, but very high tech. Pacifistan prides itself on a very efficient air force.

Navy: Large. Not Marian large, but quite substantial. Once again, it acts more as a deterrent force, and a police force against ecological terrorists.

Capital: San Francisco, for as the great Eric Burdon once said in his delightful song San Francisco Nights "This following program is dedicated to the city and people of San Francisco, who may not know it, but they are beautiful, and so is their city."

Development rating: First World

Economic style: Mixed, but leans towards socialism.

Political setup: Operates as a bicameral representative democracy similar to the US, with a president elected. Electoral college does not exist.

Social policy: Extreme left. Socially liberal; most drugs are legalized, as is gay marriage, etc. etc.

Foreign policy: Neutral. Will go to any length to maintain neutrality.

Maryland and Delaware are already spoken for sorry:p

Please actually read my resluting post.

OOC: See below



IC: There seems to be a conflict of land between our nations. Our very first state is in your lands, and so is the state with the most awesomest commercial in the world (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sZuN0xXWLc). Give them both up, or we have a war between us.



Riiight... I failed there. And it doesn't help Italy was the first of them to go fasist.

Also, the Italians were kinda awesome in Africia both Eithopia and Egypt, but they still got pwn'd.

which reminds me, how would you like an alliance?

Sure.

So now you're keeping Georgia, the Carolinas, and Virginia? Isn't that all the land I'd originally asked for? If I can get GA, SC, and NC, I'll help get you Maryland and Deleware. I'd also ally with you. As your ally, I'd suggest extending your territory west. I'm taking as far west as Texas, if I can get the Atlantic coast. I think it would be in your best interest to claim west at least to Illinois.

I still lay a partial claim to the afore mentioned lands in South America if I can't work out a deal with Omega.

No, no, no.

If you take NC, SC, and GA, you'll have to help me take Maryland and Delaware.

If allow me to keep those states, AND help me, I'll ally with you and I'll give YOU money each turn, as payment for allowing me to keep them.

Plus, my name is:

The Original Thirteen States of America.

I can't claim anything but those 13 states.

Please actually read my resulting post.

Your missing the point Maryland IS the country there's nothing to give away, thats like asking France to give up France:crazyeye:.

Country name: Corsica & Sardinia

Capital: Sassari (Northern Sardinia)

Army: Largely citizen militias. There is a small corps of professionals who have trained in the army of *ALLY_TBD*, but in the event of a hostile attack, most of the soldiers would be common folk who have fulfilled their mandatory basic training.

Air force: N/A

Navy: Most CorSar vessels are merchant ships. Back in the day they had a fine navy, but today they really don't have the infrastructure to build a warship, instead relying on *ALLY_TBD* in the event of a conflict.

Development rating: Developing. Some areas are really nice because of private investment, but overall the standard of living is fairly low.

Political setup: Monarchy, currently King Giovanni III. Although traditionally the King/Queen often defers to a council of popular representatives, he/she doesn't technically have to.

Economic style: Primarily capitalist, although due to its small size, some institutions are spearheaded by the Royal Family.

Primary industries: Tourism. CorSar boasts numerous beach resorts, making it a great getaway location. Also, gambling, prostitution, and marijuana are legal in Corsica, leading to a hefty deal of 'vice tourism'. Also trade, some manufacturing (esp. boats), and agriculture.

Social policy: Very permissive. People in CorSar tend not to stick their noses in other people's business. You can basically do whatever you want as long as you do it privately. Sardinia is more restrictive to maintain the idyllic image of paradise.

Foreign policy: Generally stay out of foreign affairs.

Your missing the point Maryland IS the country there's nothing to give away, thats like asking France to give up France:crazyeye:.

*War Drums music play*

Your head would look good on a pike.

"The United (Original Thirteen) States of America declares war on The Maryland Empire"

I'm about to go eat dinner; I'll update everything after I get back. :)

I also added the "laws of war" to the front, in preparation for any outbreak of hostilities. Any questions, please let me know. I tried to be as reasonable as possible with them, so let me know if you have any questions/comments. :)

You could always change your name... You would be more powerful, because you would have good farmland, you'd be less vulnerable to amphibious invasions, and you'd get several major cities.

I'll ally with you, invade MD and DE, and pay you for the Carolinas and Georgia. If you want to keep just the 13 colonies, I'll go on and just claim the land in South America that I mentioned earlier.

Oh, TLO and Mathalamos, would you let me in your alliance. We made a good team last time. :deal:

Country: The Socialist State of the Ukraine

Capital: Kiev

Development: Developed

Armed Forces: Generally used just for defense

Industries: Electronics

Government: Socialism. Chairman of the Socialist Party chooses President and Cabinet; Cabinet votes to choose the People's House (legislature); These are all for show. The Chairman is in total power.

Social Policy: Totalitarian.

Foreign Policy: Loves to medal in other countries arguments.

Color: Orange.

I only want the Alliance IF you allow me to keep ALL the states. If not, then we're just even, though a payment /would/ be nice.

*War Drums music play*

Your head would look good on a pike.

"The United (Original Thirteen) States of America declares war on The Maryland Empire"

hold up there pal I'm not done building my government, you don't want this to turn ugly early do you?

Country: The Socialist State of the Ukraine

Capital: Kiev

Development: Developed

Armed Forces: Generally used just for defense

Industries: Electronics

Government: Socialism. Chairman of the Socialist Party chooses President and Cabinet; Cabinet votes to choose the People's House (legislature); These are all for show. The Chairman is in total power.

Social Policy: Totalitarian.

Foreign Policy: Loves to medal in other countries arguments.

Color: Orange.

...yeah.. woudl you like to sign a nonaggression pact or something? basically, leave me alone and ill leave you alone.

What if we split it. You get the east part, and I'll take the east, using the traditional boundries of the 13 colonies. Would you agree to that?

Before everyone starts hacking into eachother(I'm waiting on my mom to go out; I'm adding the newcomers as I speak), read the rules of war on the front page please, and also make sure you find somebody to represent you in your dice rolls... remember, the person you choose must not be a member of the game. :)

Let's also give an example of how it works out...

If we choose one dice roll per side, it goes this way:

Maryland's representatives: 1 dice roll
Neutral's representatives: 1 dice roll
Thirteen States's representatives: 1 dice roll

Whoever wins 2 of the three dice rolls wins the battle and the ten glorious pixels they're fighting for.

To explain how it is so it's not so confusing, each representative will roll two dice; one representing the attacker, the other the defender. They will report their findings here, and that counts as their dice roll. The winner will be determined from the results. For example:

Maryland's representative rolls a 6 for themselves and a 5 for the States. They win this one. The neutral rep rolls a 3 for Maryland and a 4 for the states. The States win. The States roll a 4 for themselves, and a 5 for Maryland. Maryland won 2 of the three dice rolls, and so, it wins the battle, but since it was defensive, doesn't take any land.

Keep in mind that an alliance has advantages - each alliance member attacks as their own separate force, and as a result, both Droopy and the States could assault Maryland, doubling their chances of victory, whereas Maryland would have to attack them separately(and, attacking an area that doesn't border them, the defender would get a +1 to their score on each roll).

Also, would any support a counterattack bonus? Meaning, that if an attacker loses a battle, while they're retreating, if the former defender launches a counterattack on where the attacker came from, the attacker gets a bonus of +1, to represent the advantage of launching a counterattack? (Example: The States invade Maryland and Maryland repels them; if Maryland attacks the states, they get a +1 to all dice that represent Maryland).

You could always change your name... You would be more powerful, because you would have good farmland, you'd be less vulnerable to amphibious invasions, and you'd get several major cities.

I'll ally with you, invade MD and DE, and pay you for the Carolinas and Georgia. If you want to keep just the 13 colonies, I'll go on and just claim the land in South America that I mentioned earlier.

Oh, TLO and Mathalamos, would you let me in your alliance. We made a good team last time. :deal:

ill think about it, but i wont join you in the war that you just spoke of.

OOC: I've got two maps. Blue is me, Grey is you, and Green is The Maryland empire.

Situation One: Where I get all 13 States

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RESULTS:
Alliance.
I pay you X for Y amount of turns

Situation 2: Where you get NC, SC, and GA

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RESULTS:
You pay me X for Y amount of terms.

Your solution may also work. In that, Neither of us pays either. So let's choose which plan we'll do now.

(I gave you every state historiclly part of CSA except for Virginia in both and NC, SC, and GA in 1. Oklahoma wasn't technically a state yet, but was a territory of the CSA during the war).

Before we get into ho-haaing with the dogs of war and all that jazz, can we see where people stand vis-à-vis alliances?

I'd say split them, but I get Atlanta. I can pay if I need to. I suggest we use the Proclamation Line of 1763, but edit it so I get Atlanta. To the west I'll take Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, Florida, Texas, and Missouri. If no one claims Illinois, Ohio, and Indiana soon, I may go on and take them to.

Can we make an agreement on this, Omega? Oh, and we'd be allies.

EDIT: I forgot Florida.

I'd say split them, but I get Atlanta. I can pay if I need to. I suggest we use the Proclamation Line of 1763, but edit it so I get Atlanta. To the west I'll take Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, Texas, and Missouri. If no one claims Illinois, Ohio, and Indiana soon, I may go on and take them to.

Can we make an agreement on this, Omega? Oh, and we'd be allies.

Alanta is a hard deal, but I'll accept, for the sake for the game.

Can we also set up how we are going to go about making our moves? Half the time it seems like someone sets something up and walks away, only for a million other things to happen while he's gone, making his move irrelevant.

You've got a deal.

Can I enter an alliance with TLO and Mathalamos without them being in Omega's and my war with Maryland? Is that allowed?


Confederate States of America (CSA) Specs:

Color on map: Confederate Grey

Flag: Stars N Bars, of course!

Army: Fairly modern, but dedicated, hardworking, and partriotic. They will fight for thier country willingly, and the local civilians are also armed and ready to form militias in the case of invasion.

Air Force: Not the largest, or most advanced, but well enough equipped to defend the homeland.

Navy: Decent. Like the air force, it's largly defensive, and made to protect oil and shipping interest around the Gulf of Mexico and the Mississippi River.

Capital: Nashville. Central to the most of the country, access to the Mississippi via the Cumberland River, plus central to interstates and railroads. In this world, Nashville is one of the largest cities in the Confederacy.

Economic Status: Mostly 1st World. The cities and urban areas are very modern, developed, and wealthy, but many rural areas still live in poverty. Small level of resentment between the extremes of wealth and poverty

Economic Style: Capitalist, very conservative. They believe in things such as gun rights, pro-life, no free health care, and other virtues help by the "Real world" South.

Political Setup: Modeled after the US Constitution, but with more state's rights. Oh, and BTW, Slavery is long since abolished.

Social Policy: Conservative. Of course.

Foreign Policy: Will readily ally. Long time ally with the Original United States of America. They do get annoyed with liberals.

Country name: Maryland Empire

Army: Large well trained army with technology ranging from ancient to futuristic

Air force: medium-sized well-trained and equipped with the latest airframes.

Navy: medium sized Navy more then capable of defending it's waters

Capital: Annapolis

Development rating: First World

Economic style: capitalist and heavily involved in the arms race, the defence industry employs 90% of the work force

Political setup: constitutional monarchy

Social policy: little to no social or ethnic tensions, Marylanders enjoy some of the highest living standards in the world.

Foreign policy: Militarily neutral for the most part but always quick to give aid to it's true freinds.[/QUOTE]

...yeah.. would you like to sign a nonaggression pact or something? basically, leave me alone and ill leave you alone.

My main antagonist is a joker this time, wanta form a military alliance, I'll donate a 1000 F-22s to your air Force.

You've got a deal.

Can I enter an alliance with TLO and Mathalamos without them being in Omega's and my war with Maryland? Is that allowed?


Confederate States of America (CSA) Specs:

Army: Fairly modern, but dedicated, hardworking, and partriotic. They will fight for thier country willingly, and the local civilians are also armed and ready to form militias in the case of invasion.

Air Force: Not the largest, or most advanced, but well enough equipped to defend the homeland.

Navy: Decent. Like the air force, it's largly defensive, and made to protect oil and shipping interest around the Gulf of Mexico and the Mississippi River.

Capital: Nashville. Central to the most of the country, access to the Mississippi via the Cumberland River, plus central to interstates and railroads. In this world, Nashville is one of the largest cities in the Confederacy.

Economic Status: Mostly 1st World. The cities and urban areas are very modern, developed, and wealthy, but many rural areas still live in poverty. Small level of resentment between the extremes of wealth and poverty

Economic Style: Capitalist, very conservative. They believe in things such as gun rights, pro-life, no free health care, and other virtues help by the "Real world" South.

Political Setup: Modeled after the US Constitution, but with more state's rights. Oh, and BTW, Slavery is long since abolished.

Social Policy: Conservative. Of course.

Foreign Policy: Will readily ally. Long time ally with the Original United States of America. They do get annoyed with liberals.

Confederate states eh? i hereby accept your alliance proposal ( will wait for TLO to accept as well), and ill help you expand your military and industry, and of course fix up those poverty areas. all i request is that i want at least one naval base somewhere. also ill throw in a lot of gold.

unless someone (you or TLO) objects i consider Byzantium to be the strongest state in the alliance.

My main antagonist is a joker this time, wanta form a military alliance, I'll donate a 1000 F-22s to your air Force.

...what is your relationship with the Confederate states and the pacific confederacy?

I'm willing to accept that you have the best military. You can have a base in Mobile, Alabama, if you'll help me protect my oil interest in the Gulf of Mexico. Can we invite Omega into our alliance? I've already allied with him for an American Alliance.

Ooh, ooh, I almost forgot. Can we call ourselves The Alliance again?

I'm still not quite sure how the combat system works, and why is everybody ganging up on me? Is there no voice of reason?

I'm willing to accept that you have the best military. You can have a base in Mobile, Alabama, if you'll help me protect my oil interest in the Gulf of Mexico. Can we invite Omega into our alliance? I've already allied with him for an American Alliance.

Ooh, ooh, I almost forgot. Can we call ourselves The Alliance again?

OK Omega is in.

id really rather not spread out my military too much but ill assign.. 5 Byzantine Super carriers and their destroyer escorts, 1000 of the best Airplanes, and a ground army of 400,000.

the strength on the mainland (which includes that colony) is down to 2.5 million people, 35 Aircraft carriers and their escorts, a dozen battleships and around 20,000 to 30,000 planes, with an unknown number of Allied Soldiers and Ships. i sent 100,000 people and ten Aircract carriers (his nation is obviously more navy based) to guard TLOs capital..wherever that is.

( note: all aircraft carriers are the Byzantine Super carriers)

You don't have to spread you forces too thin in my land. I can largely take care of myself, especially in peace time.

I'm getting off the computer for the night, so if you all ever get all this worked out and start playing, I'll let my allies use part of my military if they need it.

i just know that when war starts im the first to fall, so i spread out my forces somewhat so my nation wouldn't be totally defeated in Europe.

I'm still not quite sure how the combat system works, and why is everybody ganging up on me? Is there no voice of reason?

Here you are. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8996825&postcount=47) It's a bit crude, but we can refine it later to include such things as technology, numbers, quality, etc.

Can we also set up how we are going to go about making our moves? Half the time it seems like someone sets something up and walks away, only for a million other things to happen while he's gone, making his move irrelevant.

We should probably set up turns, based on the order players posted. Meaning, I'd go first, then whoever came after me, etc.

You've got a deal.

Can I enter an alliance with TLO and Mathalamos without them being in Omega's and my war with Maryland? Is that allowed?

Yes. There will be several types of alliances, just like in reality, and it is up to the members to specify them. The ideas of alliances I have are:

First, let me define unilateral vs. multilateral - Unilateral means you're not connected across a certain ally you share, i.e. France and Britain are allied, while Britain is allied with Germany, but France is not allied with Germany.

Next, you have full pacts vs. defensive pacts - Defensive pacts ONLY activate if a person participating in them is attacked. If the alliance member attacks, the other alliance members will not come to their aid. On the other hand, full pacts cover both attacks and defense.

Akin to Civ 3, we also will have war pacts, like the military alliance system, where you recruit an ally just for a specific conflict.

Do you want to join my alliance Tanicius? I did give you Ireland after all.

Can we get a map update please?

Also, my neutrality defensive pact is still out there for anyone wanting to remain neutral.

I want to stay neutral but everybody seems to be Gaddafing me.

Do you want to join my alliance Tanicius? I did give you Ireland after all.

I'll meet you halfway. We might not be able to help you with Maryland proper(given how small it is compared to the enemy hordes), but we will support and defend all of Maryland's overseas territories with our first-class navy! :goodjob:

Can we get a map update please?

Also, my neutrality defensive pact is still out there for anyone wanting to remain neutral.

Mhmm, soon. I'm adding the Thirteen States and such as I speak. :)

Edit: What color would you like?

Once again, I'm late to the game! Anyways, I'm glad about these new rules. Now time for me to add my country!


Country: The Israeli Republic, it includes Israel, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Palestine, Gaza, Jordan, and Egypt.

Color: Light blue

Army: Small, but strong. Everyman is put to the test and come out the most well-trained men in the world. They are trained in counter-terrorism and conventional warfare. The small number of them is because of the rigorous training, not many people see through to the end. But the one who do, they are truly the best soldiers in the world.
Size: 2.5 million men.

Air Force: Pretty much the same as above, small in size but extremely strong/advanced.

Navy: Same as above, small in size, but extremely tough.

Capital: Jerusalem. This is chosen as it has always been historically the capitol of Israel, plus it's very central.

Economic Status: First World, as modern as it gets. Besides the minor profits in oil to be had, we have a booming Hi-Tech industry, which provides the world with most of the stuff needed for computers (microchips and such).

Economic Style: Capitalism

Political Setup: Parliamentary Democracy

Social Policy: Very Liberal, very socialist

Foreign Policy: We'll do anything to help our survival. We'll join any alliance that can promise that I won't be wiped off the face of the earth.

Welcome to thread, Joecoolyo! :goodjob: Hopefully my rules will be like the Constitution unto the Articles of Confederation... bringing order and stability to anarchy and chaos(seriously, what the HELL was up with the Poles invading MECCA, and then the Turks NUKING it?! :crazyeye:)!

First post updated; I'll change Owen's color when he gives it to me. I didn't see him choose a color. :confused:

Once again, I'm late to the game! Anyways, I'm glad about these new rules. Now time for me to add my country!


Country: The Israeli Republic, it includes Israel, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Palestine, Gaza, Jordan, and Egypt.

Color: Light blue

Army: Small, but strong. Everyman is put to the test and come out the most well-trained men in the world. They are trained in counter-terrorism and conventional warfare. The small number of them is because of the rigorous training, not many people see through to the end. But the one who do, they are truly the best soldiers in the world.
Size: 2.5 million men.

Air Force: Pretty much the same as above, small in size but extremely strong/advanced.

Navy: Same as above, small in size, but extremely tough.

Capital: Jerusalem. This is chosen as it has always been historically the capitol of Israel, plus it's very central.

Economic Status: First World, as modern as it gets. Besides the minor profits in oil to be had, we have a booming Hi-Tech industry, which provides the world with most of the stuff needed for computers (microchips and such).

Economic Style: Capitalism

Political Setup: Parliamentary Democracy

Social Policy: Very Liberal, very socialist

Foreign Policy: We'll do anything to help our survival. We'll join any alliance that can promise that I won't be wiped off the face of the earth.

... woudl you like an alliance?

our countries are roughly equal, and im sure with some careful negotiation we will be unstoppable.

TLO, me,Omega and Droopytofu is on the Alliance.

Welcome to thread, Joecoolyo! :goodjob: Hopefully my rules will be like the Constitution unto the Articles of Confederation... bringing order and stability to anarchy and chaos(seriously, what the HELL was up with the Poles invading MECCA, and then the Turks NUKING it?! :crazyeye:)!

First post updated; I'll change Owen's color when he gives it to me. I didn't see him choose a color. :confused:

Terribly sorry, old chap! I'll take navy blue, and if that's taken, orange. And if that's taken, I suppose any other variant of blue is fine.

As to the map, I'm much obliged that you put it up there, although that island off the coast I did claim (see my post). I'm also very tempted to take a bit of Alaska.

Alright, fine, TLO, you can have Indonesia and the Solomon Islands, but I get Malaysia, Brunei, and the Phillipines.

And yeah, we need rules to stop a million things from happening while half the people are asleep. How about you can only do a certain limited amount of action in a limited amount of time?

Alright, fine, TLO, you can have Indonesia and the Solomon Islands, but I get Malaysia, Brunei, and the Phillipines.

And yeah, we need rules to stop a million things from happening while half the people are asleep. How about you can only do a certain limited amount of action in a limited amount of time?

That would work. Everyone turns their proposed actions in for the day, they all happen simultaneously. If you don't issue orders for the day, it's considered you doing nothing. (Sort of like diplomacy, actually :mischief:)

POPE PERFECTION CALLS DIBS ON THE HOLY SEE :mwaha:

Once again, I'm late to the game! Anyways, I'm glad about these new rules. Now time for me to add my country!


Country: The Israeli Republic, it includes Israel, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Palestine, Gaza, Jordan, and Egypt.

Color: Light blue

Army: Small, but strong. Everyman is put to the test and come out the most well-trained men in the world. They are trained in counter-terrorism and conventional warfare. The small number of them is because of the rigorous training, not many people see through to the end. But the one who do, they are truly the best soldiers in the world.
Size: 2.5 million men.

Air Force: Pretty much the same as above, small in size but extremely strong/advanced.

Navy: Same as above, small in size, but extremely tough.

Capital: Jerusalem. This is chosen as it has always been historically the capitol of Israel, plus it's very central.

Economic Status: First World, as modern as it gets. Besides the minor profits in oil to be had, we have a booming Hi-Tech industry, which provides the world with most of the stuff needed for computers (microchips and such).

Economic Style: Capitalism

Political Setup: Parliamentary Democracy

Social Policy: Very Liberal, very socialist

Foreign Policy: We'll do anything to help our survival. We'll join any alliance that can promise that I won't be wiped off the face of the earth.

I'll save your bacon, do you want to become my vessel state.

I claim Toronto and Tibet.

I claim soviet.

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/4485/imperiumofftopicum4.png (http://img704.imageshack.us/i/imperiumofftopicum4.png/)

I claim Toronto and Tibet.

they are both landlocked....

so what?

so how will you hold on to Tibet? a few well placed orders and that territory gets to be mine.

I think I'm a bit closer to it. ;)

Tibet is the main country, Toronto is a Colony that I peacfuly travel back and forth from because I'm a filthy neut.

Only if I let you through my territory.

why woudn't you? I'm nice:mischief::mischief::mischief::mischief:

My Color is a respectible shade of pink.

The CCCP is currently looking for allies. It's a socialist country minus the terrible power paranoia that comes with totaliarism. We have a working democracy and the people are free in this country. It must not be confused with the Soviet union as you guys knows it... I prefer my allies to be socialist and liberal.

No wait, I have a better claim.

I already have Singapore.

I already have Singapore.
http://www.ddcrew.com/rageguy.jpg

Is The Western Portion of The United States already taken!?!

CCCP:

Army: A large draft army, with focus on quality, many tanks and the latest military technology.

Air Force: A strong airforce. The biggest bases lies in Cuba, north korea and around St. Petersburg.

Navy: Split in both the pacific and the Atlantic, the navy is large. Both big ships and nuclear-driven stealth subs

Capital: Moscow

Economic Status: Free market, but somewhat government restricted, only to avoid corruption. Small companies are more than welcome. There's no monopolies.

Economic Style: Free trade socialism.

Political Setup: Lead by a council, mightiest position is chairman who's in charge of the council. Election happens every fourth year.

Social Policy: Social liberalism.

Foreign Policy: For the best of CCCP and other social-liberal countries.

Am I invisible? Is the rest of Western United States unclamed?

Yeah. Speaking of, I claim alaska.

Yeah. Speaking of, I claim alaska.
No it's not. Theres only a little strip of it that's clamed.

Before anyone starts gobbleing up land before I GET A FLIPPING CHANCE

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/f/fe/Fo2_NCR_Flag.png

Country name: New California Republic

Motto: "The Senate and the People of California"

Army: A large draft army. Some units are issued powered armor and some units are issued combat armor. Largely due to the influence of the Brotherhood of Steel at Lost Hills Bunker.

Air Force: Maintains a strong airforce. Largely of bombers and interceptors

Navy: A relatively moderate sized navy, mainly to protect the cost of SoCal,, and Baja California and any of it's allies. The navy contains a mix of battlecruisers, battleships, missile guided destroyers and cruisers, as well as a nuclear submarine fleet.

Capital: San Deigo

Economic Status: First World

Economic Style: Largely capitalist with some social democracy platforms. The NCR has little tolerance towards slavery.

Political Setup: Federal Republic. The NCR tends to model it's government after the Roman Republic in ancient Rome.

Social Policy: Moderate

Foreign Policy: Mainly it's an isolationist striving to ensure it's own survival. However, It's willing to enter into alliances as long as it does not threaten the survival of the NCR and any of it's close allies.

The NCR mainly controls the Southwestern part of the United States (any lands that are not claimed by the The Librul Republik of Pacifistan) including California (unclaimed portion that is), Baja California, and Japan. The only borders that the NCR touches are the The Librul Republik of Pacifistan and the Confederate States of America.

California Republic(shade of purple in the former USA) - CivGeneral


What the? I thought I had claim to Japan as well?! :confused:

Before anyone starts gobbleing up land before I GET A FLIPPING CHANCE

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/f/fe/Fo2_NCR_Flag.png

Country name: New California Republic

Motto: "The Senate and the People of California"

Army: A large draft army. Typically armed with conventional and energy weapons including the use of plasma based weapons and gatling lasers. Some units are issued powered armor and some units are issued combat armor. Largely due to the influence of the Brotherhood of Steel at Lost Hills Bunker.

Air Force: Maintains a strong airforce. Largely of bombers and interceptors

Navy: A relatively moderate sized navy, mainly to protect the cost of SoCal,, and Baja California and any of it's allies. The navy contains a mix of battlecruisers, battleships, missile guided destroyers and cruisers, as well as a nuclear submarine fleet.

Capital: San Deigo

Economic Status: First World

Economic Style: Largely capitalist with some social democracy platforms. The NCR has little tolerance towards slavery.

Political Setup: Federal Republic. The NCR tends to model it's government after the Roman Republic in ancient Rome.

Social Policy: Moderate

Foreign Policy: Mainly it's an isolationist striving to ensure it's own survival. However, It's willing to enter into alliances as long as it does not threaten the survival of the NCR and any of it's close allies.

The NCR mainly controls the Southwestern part of the United States (any lands that are not claimed by the The Librul Republik of Pacifistan) including California (unclaimed portion that is), Baja California, and Japan. The only borders that the NCR touches are the The Librul Republik of Pacifistan and the Confederate States of America.

energy weapons? Byzantium will never allow such an advantage! remove your energy weapons, its supposed to be a fair game. it wont be so fair if you have plasma weapons shoot left and right.

energy weapons? Byzantium will never allow such an advantage! remove your energy weapons, its supposed to be a fair game. it wont be so fair if you have plasma weapons shoot left and right.

The New Californian Republic will not remove any such energy weapons. Laser and plasma based weapons are to remain in the arms of the NCR. Unless you are unware, the NCR Army do use conventional arms along with laser, plasma, and tesla technologies.

(OOC: Unless you're not familiar...
Fallout Wiki (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Energy_Weapons)
Although energy weapons are more commonly seen in Fallout 3, they are also much less powerful in comparison to conventional weaponry. A conventional Assault Rifle is more than capable of going toe-to-toe with a Laser Rifle in terms of damage, and can hold its own even against the more powerful Plasma Rifle.

In a sense in the above, it makes energy weapons a fair ground in comparison to other conventional arms)

The NCR will ignore the bickering and rantings of the Byzantium.

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/19719/original/NO5E65R2PRHVF7WAVBJNK7YHIYXLJEEJ.jpeg

The New Californian Republic will not remove any such energy weapons. Laser and plasma based weapons are to remain in the arms of the NCR. Unless you are unware, the NCR Army do use conventional arms along with laser, plasma, and tesla technologies.

(OOC: Unless you're not familiar...


In a sense in the above, it makes energy weapons a fair ground in comparison to other conventional arms)

The NCR will ignore the bickering and rantings of the Byzantium.

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/19719/original/NO5E65R2PRHVF7WAVBJNK7YHIYXLJEEJ.jpeg

i havent gotten any sleep today, so dont make me too mad.

please keep your technological pace with the rest of the world. no nation cant be that far ahead no matter how much research you do. it will simply leak out and you'd be no more advanced than you were before.

we bribed a scientist and an engineer to reveal the design of your laser weapon. then we promptly gave the info to our allies. for free.

...naturally we are using lasers now. Byzantine scientists are already fine tuning the design ( dont even bother trying to bribe, ill sell the improved design to you..for a fee)

i havent gotten any sleep today, so dont make me too mad.

please keep your technological pace with the rest of the world. no nation cant be that far ahead no matter how much research you do. it will simply leak out and you'd be no more advanced than you were before.

we bribed a scientist and an engineer to reveal the design of your laser weapon. then we promptly gave the info to our allies. for free.

...naturally we are using lasers now. Byzantine scientists are already fine tuning the design ( dont even bother trying to bribe, ill sell the improved design to you..for a fee)

Fine, I'll remove energy weapons if you keep complaining about it and insist on stealing them. Happy you little Byzantine punks?! I suggest you do the same.

quite. we stopped development of laser weapons and burned every last copy of the weapons already in service. we are keeping the design tho, it may helpm when we want to vaporize a certain large Asteroid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis) if it makes an unfortunate step.

Since the Byzantarium has agrivated the leader who prefers energy weapons. A state of increase tension exist.

http://dyos.wikkii.com/w/images/dyos/uploads/c/c0/SamusPittRaider.png

If only the Byzatines have left the NCR alone in there choice of using energy weapons. Things would have been fine. Of if they had done the alternative and asked for the designs, we would have happy traided techs.

(I flipping do not know what the big deal is when combat is dealt in dice rolls, someone must have woked up on the wrong side of the bead)

However, the NCR army will still keep and still issued energy weapons. In a last minute change of plans.

Seriously Mathalamus, the type of weapons or technology an army has does not even factor into combat in dice rolls.

Since the Byzantarium has agrivated the leader who prefers energy weapons. A state of increase tension exist.

http://dyos.wikkii.com/w/images/dyos/uploads/c/c0/SamusPittRaider.png

If only the Byzatines have left the NCR alone in there choice of using energy weapons. Things would have been fine. Of if they had done the alternative and asked for the designs, we would have happy traided techs.

(I flipping do not know what the big deal is when combat is dealt in dice rolls, someone must have woked up on the wrong side of the bead)

However, the NCR army will still keep and still issued energy weapons. In a last minute change of plans.

Seriously Mathalamus, the type of weapons or technology an army has does not even factor into combat in dice rolls.

so... if i send a spearman against a tank, would it win?

Byzantine Emperor Barabas IV was laughing his butt off for an hour straight when he heard the NCR was increasing tensions. He recommends the NCR to just drop it.

Byzantine Emperor Barabas IV was laughing his butt off for an hour straight when he heard the NCR was increasing tensions. He recommends the NCR to just drop it.

Fine, we'll drop the tension. But were not amused of being laughed at.

OOC: You don't know how prone to rage I can get. Especially since I have lost my job months ago and in a depressed state. Also note that OOC usage implies that I am speaking out of character and in no way reflects any ingame action. I'd suggest to all, if nessicary, to use the "OOC:" tag to avoid any miscommunication and hurt feelings if we are speaking out of character.

Fine, we'll drop the tension. But were not amused of being laughed at.

OOC: You don't know how prone to rage I can get. Especially since I have lost my job months ago and in a depressed state. Also note that OOC usage implies that I am speaking out of character and in no way reflects any ingame action.

Byzantine Emperor congratulates you at your common sense. and strongly advises you to build an Aircraft Carrier. your navy means literally nothing if Planes can just blast your ships without opposition.

OOC: im also prone to rage, much higher than you can, so obviously i try to avoid it and try to laugh things off. im sorry if i made you too angry.

Byzantine Emperor congratulates you at your common sense. and strongly advises you to build an Aircraft Carrier. your navy means literally nothing if Planes can just blast your ships without opposition.

Even if armed with anti-air defenses. To be honest, I would not know which Aircraft Carrier class would be suable that would be effective for the needs of the NCR. Perhaps one Nimitz class and a hand full of Forrestal class.

Even if armed with anti-air defenses. To be honest, I would not know which Aircraft Carrier class would be suable that would be effective for the needs of the NCR. Perhaps one Nimitz class and a hand full of Forrestal class.

Aircraft carriers are useful in stopping amphibious invasions. or at least slowing them down, by damaging or destroying a naval group.

i maintain a strong navy of 50 Byzantine class Aircraft carriers, and a lot of other ships. im tired so i cant give details.

you may say that its overkill. i agree. but i don't feel like scrapping a few.

Civ Gen and Love, I'll be your allies.

If CG can have lasers then my army is completely made out of trained bears with laser sight.

If CG can have lasers then my army is completely made out of trained bears with laser sight.

Oh god, not this again. Can we please sit down and negotiate this.

I don't care whether or not plasma weapons are more powerful or less powerful...if we can't have nukes we can't have plasma weapons.

That being said...CG, want to form a west coast alliance?

That being said...CG, want to form a west coast alliance?

Certainly.

A lurkers comment: I would join this game, but it's just too fast and chaotic. I mean, since the last time i checked the OT posters empires-thread, it had ~10 new pages, and you had started a new game already. Maybe some of you can actually come here multiple times a day, but due to school, there are days during which I can't come at all, and when I can, I can only come once a day. And in that time my empire is probably destroyed. This is a great game, it's just too hectic.

You've got a deal.

Can I enter an alliance with TLO and Mathalamos without them being in Omega's and my war with Maryland? Is that allowed?


Confederate States of America (CSA) Specs:

Color on map: Confederate Grey

Flag: Stars N Bars, of course!

Army: Fairly modern, but dedicated, hardworking, and partriotic. They will fight for thier country willingly, and the local civilians are also armed and ready to form militias in the case of invasion.

Air Force: Not the largest, or most advanced, but well enough equipped to defend the homeland.

Navy: Decent. Like the air force, it's largly defensive, and made to protect oil and shipping interest around the Gulf of Mexico and the Mississippi River.

Capital: Nashville. Central to the most of the country, access to the Mississippi via the Cumberland River, plus central to interstates and railroads. In this world, Nashville is one of the largest cities in the Confederacy.

Economic Status: Mostly 1st World. The cities and urban areas are very modern, developed, and wealthy, but many rural areas still live in poverty. Small level of resentment between the extremes of wealth and poverty

Economic Style: Capitalist, very conservative. They believe in things such as gun rights, pro-life, no free health care, and other virtues help by the "Real world" South.

Political Setup: Modeled after the US Constitution, but with more state's rights. Oh, and BTW, Slavery is long since abolished.

Social Policy: Conservative. Of course.

Foreign Policy: Will readily ally. Long time ally with the Original United States of America. They do get annoyed with liberals.

I think your looking for the CSA Constitution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_Constitution). Also, the CSA, when it existed, was extremely liberal. Just a thought.

De Jure, The United States of America (USA); De Facto, The Original Thirteen States of America (OSA) Specs:

Color on map: Blue

Flag: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/US_flag_13_stars.svg/200px-US_flag_13_stars.svg.png

Army: Very trained (Due to West Point). However, due to 9/11 and Enduring Freedom (And all that jizz), they are mostly trained for anti-terrorism, thought that will change soon.

Air Force: Very disorganized, scince most of the planes were in the Midwest. The few planes that were on the East Coast were mostly in CSA lands. Needs building

Navy: Possibly the most ****** Navy afloat. They got the most modern ships in existence, and a large majority, if not all, of the USA's old fleet went to The Original States. The only bad thing is that the Naval Academy is in Maryland, which is in rebel, but that will change monetarily. Prepare to get your butts naval invaded, folks!

Capital: Washington D.C., Duh!

Economic Status: 1st World.

Economic Style: Capitalist, mixed, but leaning towards conservative. They believe in things such as gun rights, pro-life, no free health care, but also believe in freedom of religion, gay rights, and other things.

Political Setup: The U.S. Constitution

Social Policy: Mixed, leaning towards conservatism.

Foreign Policy: Mistrusting of almost every country except for its long-time ally, the CSA. However, it doesn't trust even CSA's allies much. Very Xenophobic, short version.

Omega why can't you just let Maryland go? Your willing to let Georgia and the carolinas go why not Maryland? Can't we met some where in the middle here?

Omega why can't you just let Maryland go? Your willing to let Georgia and the carolinas go why not Maryland? Can't we met some where in the middle here?

OOC: I already told you. Delaware is the very first state, and Maryland has the best commercial ever. I'm not letting The Constitution State and Big Bill's **** go. Anyways, I didn't give NC, SC, and GA go. I just gave him half of it.

So war we go!

What if I give you the Delmarva peninsula? That way you could have Delaware and part of Maryland.

The Original Thirteen States of America does not wish to be in "The Alliance", and only wants an alliance with the CSA specifically, called the Pan-American Alliance.

The details of the Pan-American Alliance:
If either country declares war on a nation, the other is highly urged, but not required, to declare war on the other nation.

If a nation declares war on either party, the other nation declares war on the other nation automatically.

If a signing nation's ally gets war declared on, and a signing nation goes to its ally's aid, the other nation is not expected, but can, assist the other nation's allies.

Country: Oceanic republic of Oceanicstan

Color: Navy Blue

Army: Average Army size, main army can defend Australia, Sumatra, Java and New Zealand with ease, and there are more than capable defensive units on smaller islands.

Air Force: Air Force is large, and advanced.

Navy: HUGE navy. Biggest in the world. Highly advanced too.

Capital: Brisbane

Economic Status: First World, modern. Equivilent to Real World Australia

Economic Style: Capitalism

Foreign Policy: We are strong, and a major contender in world affairs. People will want to be part of Oceanicstan's alliance.

What the? I thought I had claim to Japan as well?! :confused:

Whoops! Sorry, I didn't see that part. I'll be sure to add it next map!

On the Byzantine-Californian crisis...

I think we just found the first topic of a UN session, even if you resolved the dispute on your own.

Ok, a few responses to delve out here.

Madmad: No

Mathalamus: No

Love: I send a request to be your ally. As socialist democracy brethren, we should protect each other (plus as you can see, I'm very very small, and I could use someone as tough as you to protect me).

Edit: I propose the Securing the Border act in parliament, it passes with great success. Basically the Act allowed me to barter with the natives of Iran to see if I could expand my border there for security reasons.

The bartering was a success, if they gave me Iran, they would get full citizenship, and representation in government. Also the official language of the region would stay Persian.(though Israeli and English would be taught in schools).

I now occupy Iran. And send small garrisons there to establish the regular defenses I find in most of my cities (i.e. shelters in case of bombings, AA guns in case of emergency, all the good stuff).

The Original Thirteen States of America does not wish to be in "The Alliance", and only wants an alliance with the CSA specifically, called the Pan-American Alliance.

The details of the Pan-American Alliance:
If either country declares war on a nation, the other is highly urged, but not required, to declare war on the other nation.

If a nation declares war on either party, the other nation declares war on the other nation automatically.

If a signing nation's ally gets war declared on, and a signing nation goes to its ally's aid, the other nation is not expected, but can, assist the other nation's allies.

Would you be willing to let your neighbors from out west join into such an alliance? If we Americans are going to survive, we gotta stick together, y'know?

Whoops! Sorry, I didn't see that part. I'll be sure to add it next map!

On the Byzantine-Californian crisis...

I think we just found the first topic of a UN session, even if you resolved the dispute on your own.

What crisis?

Would you be willing to let your neighbors from out west join into such an alliance? If we Americans are going to survive, we gotta stick together, y'know?

You do know that, if you join our alliance, you would lose your neutrality as you would be thrown into a war with The Maryland Empire? Also, we would, due to the CSA, be drifting towards the Capitalistic side of the Ideological debate, and might even be thrown into WWIII?

You do know that, if you join our alliance, you would lose your neutrality as you would be thrown into a war with The Maryland Empire? Also, we would, due to the CSA, be drifting towards the Capitalistic side of the Ideological debate, and might even be thrown into WWIII?

Meh, in that case I'm not gonna break my neutrality over some useless strip of land on the east coast. Good luck with that though! :goodjob:

If you do change your mind about maryland, though, I do have starbucks and iPads waiting for everybody!

Also Tanicius: Can I make a claim to the southern coast of Alaska? Or is that already spoken for?

Sorry for the another post, but another act has passed in Parliament.

The Oil Act has also passed with great success following the annexation of Iran into the republic.

This act makes it so that all Israeli Oil companies can now drill in Iran for oil. As for foreign companies, they must ask permission from Parliament first, to get their license to do so. There will also be a small tax levied on foreign companies to allow the smaller Israeli companies some chance for competition.

Very well. I agree to protect you Joecoolyo, consider the alliance sealed.

Choxorn How do an alliance sound to you?

All your claims have been registered in the Union of Nations building (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=357417), and voting may now begin and will last for three days, ending on March 18, 2:30 PM Pacific Time.

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Speaking of which, I claim the Azores, Madeira, and Canary Islands. I have entered this claim as well.

All your claims have been registered in the Union of Nations building (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=357417), and voting may now begin and will last for three days, ending on March 18, 2:30 PM Pacific Time.

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Speaking of which, I claim the Azores, Madeira, and Canary Islands. I have entered this claim as well.

So, a quick question. Will there be a limit to how many claims people get a day? Because I could easily be a dick and claim the entire Arabian Penn. right now, even after I claimed Iran.

Sorry for the another post, but another act has passed in Parliament.

The Oil Act has also passed with great success following the annexation of Iran into the republic.

This act makes it so that all Israeli Oil companies can now drill in Iran for oil. As for foreign companies, they must ask permission from Parliament first, to get their license to do so. There will also be a small tax levied on foreign companies to allow the smaller Israeli companies some chance for competition.

USA would like to drill. Exxon needs its oil, ya know.

So, a quick question. Will there be a limit to how many claims people get a day? Because I could easily be a dick and claim the entire Arabian Penn. right now, even after I claimed Iran.

Yes. One claim case at a time sounds good, so you can make your next claim in three days. :)

USA would like to drill. Exxon needs its oil, ya know.

I get the slightest feeling you're going to be very fascist towards the rest of the world in pursuance of your best interests. ;) :mischief:

USA would like to drill. Exxon needs its oil, ya know.

Your request has been submitted, though it can't be approved until I actually receive the territory thorough the UN.

So, you know, you might want to help me out on that :)

I get the slightest feeling you're going to be very fascist towards the rest of the world in pursuance of your best interests. ;) :mischief:

Maybe... Maybe not... :mischief:

ANYWAYS! I rolled for The Maryland War

States got: 6
Maryland got: 3

I win that one.

Also, I nominate TLO as the neutral roller. I trust him the most of all the neutral users.

Being a socialist country, Ukraine would like to join the Socialist alliance with the CCCP and Israel.

Also, their stance on the war is in support of the USA, and would like to supply them with weapons.

Alright, Love, I'm in. Joecoolyo, should we make the Socialist alliance between us three (four if Landlubber's in)?

And TLO, can you respond to me question about our deal for how to split the islands in SE Asia?

Country: Choxornese Empire

Color: Red

Army: Largest in the World, on account of us having about 2 billion people, with decent training, but not enough specialization and crappy equipment and supplies for most of the army.

Air Force: Moderate Size, Well-Equipped by the Soviets.

Navy: Enough for defense, though a bit out of date and not much of a match for other navies without air support.

Capital: Kolkata

Economic Status: Third-World, Much Poverty, but has plenty of resources and working towards modernizing and has a quickly expanding economy.

Political System: Social Liberalism/Liberal Socialism, whatever you want to call it

Economic/Social/Foriegn Policy: Left, Down, and Aggressive when necessary

Give me a map, I'll show you the Islands I want, and the ones I am willing to give away.

I will claim all of the Solomon Islands.

If you have any disagreements, take it up in the UN.

(I think it is fair I get first pick as I claimed them first)

Being a socialist country, Ukraine would like to join the Socialist alliance with the CCCP and Israel.


Alright, Love, I'm in. Joecoolyo, should we make the Socialist alliance between us three (four if Landlubber's in)?


It'd be great if we could form a mutual alliance (i.e. everyone in the alliance it allied with each other).

Though what should we name it? (The 2nd Quad? :lol:)

Maybe... Maybe not... :mischief:

ANYWAYS! I rolled for The Maryland War

States got: 6
Maryland got: 3

I win that one.

Also, I nominate TLO as the neutral roller. I trust him the most of all the neutral users.

You can't roll for yourself, nor can TLO be a neutral roller, being a member of the game. :(

For yourself, you should find a non-member of the game to roll for you(the assumption being that, not being in the game, the chance of bias is removed). The same goes for Maryland. However, I'm not sure what to do for neutral rollers. We could either:

A) Have the UN elect neutral rollers for all conflicts(possibly even 3, given the 15 members, the combat system isn't refined; this would make 3/5 of the rollers neutral, however).

B) Or, the belligerents in question could jointly elect a non-member to roll, that way it's agreeable to both the relevant parties.

I'll have to present this issue to the UN, I think. See what works best for everybody. :)

A lurkers comment: I would join this game, but it's just too fast and chaotic. I mean, since the last time i checked the OT posters empires-thread, it had ~10 new pages, and you had started a new game already. Maybe some of you can actually come here multiple times a day, but due to school, there are days during which I can't come at all, and when I can, I can only come once a day. And in that time my empire is probably destroyed. This is a great game, it's just too hectic.

OOC: Perhaps CivOtaku would be a good dice-roller...

You can't roll for yourself, nor can TLO be a neutral roller, being a member of the game. :(

For yourself, you should find a non-member of the game to roll for you(the assumption being that, not being in the game, the chance of bias is removed). The same goes for Maryland. However, I'm not sure what to do for neutral rollers. We could either:

A) Have the UN elect neutral rollers for all conflicts(possibly even 3, given the 15 members, the combat system isn't refined; this would make 3/5 of the rollers neutral, however).

B) Or, the belligerents in question could jointly elect a non-member to roll, that way it's agreeable to both the relevant parties.

I'll have to present this issue to the UN, I think. See what works best for everybody. :)

Okay, then. I chose Earthling to represent me. I trust him a lot. If, for some reason, he can't roll for me, I choose TheLizardKing.

Can I go on and claime Illinios, Indiana, and Ohio, since no one else seems to want that.

I'd like to formally suggest an American economic union. The Original US, CSA, California Republic, Pacifistan, and whoever gets the rest of America's mainland. Would anyone be interested? You wouldn't be forced to war with members, just allow free trade, share major advancements, stuff like that.

Can I go on and claime Illinios, Indiana, and Ohio, since no one else seems to want that.

I'd like to formally suggest an American economic union. The Original US, CSA, California Republic, Pacifistan, and whoever gets the rest of America's mainland. Would anyone be interested? You wouldn't be forced to war with members, just allow free trade, share major advancements, stuff like that.

13 States agree, and sign, this treaty. We also vote yes for any land claims it has, being awesome and all.

We also urge our allies to look at The Pan-American Alliance.

OOC: Perhaps CivOtaku would be a good dice-roller...

I support this motion. Now all that needs to be done is for him to accept a nomination. Who wants the honors of sending him a PM and seeing if he'll agree?

Okay, then. I chose Earthling to represent me. I trust him a lot. If, for some reason, he can't roll for me, I choose TheLizardKing.

Very well then! See if they'll agree to be your diceroller, and Mad Man will also have to pick someone...

I'll raise the issue of the dice roll mechanics in the UN, to refine them and make them more agreeable to all.

Can I go on and claime Illinios, Indiana, and Ohio, since no one else seems to want that.

You're free to claim them; the UN will vote on the issue. :)

13 States agree, and sign, this treaty. We also vote yes for any land claims it has, being awesome and all.

We also urge our allies to look at The Pan-American Alliance.

We also accept your economic offer. The key to a more powerful position for all North American states is through cooperation.

TLO: Does this proposition for Island Border distributions sound good?

Basically, you get all the small Indoensian Islands, and I get Northern Borneo and the Phillipines.

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/2339/mapv.png

And yes, I am claiming the Phillipines and Hainan. I meant to do that originally but forgot.

Between all the administrative duties, I can finally get down to personal duties...

CivGeneral and TheLastOne:

I would like to propose a Pacific Security Treaty, meant to bring peace to the Pacific and it's many islands. This alliance would be three-way, with the Marian Empire, California and Oceanicstan working together for mutual benefit. The pact would be defensive, and thus would only activate if one of us was attacked. The pact would also not mingle with any other pacts we have, so if I supported Maryland in a war, for instance, you would not be dragged in.

The Marian Empire does not have any territories in the Pacific Ocean, but we nonetheless have a vested interest in Pacific trade, and we are willing to donate some of our first-class naval forces to help in your defense and protection of your commerce(darn pirates).


California Republic, USA, CSA, and Pacifistan:

Given your high levels of economic development, we would like to propose a free trade agreement on some goods, so as to stimulate competition and, in the long term, economic prosperity for us all. Whenever applicable, we will be willing to use our naval forces to aid in crushing piracy, or patrolling for other undesirables in your waters.

Between all the administrative duties, I can finally get down to personal duties...

CivGeneral and TheLastOne:

I would like to propose a Pacific Security Treaty, meant to bring peace to the Pacific and it's many islands. This alliance would be three-way, with the Marian Empire, California and Oceanicstan working together for mutual benefit. The pact would be defensive, and thus would only activate if one of us was attacked. The pact would also not mingle with any other pacts we have, so if I supported Maryland in a war, for instance, you would not be dragged in.

The Marian Empire does not have any territories in the Pacific Ocean, but we nonetheless have a vested interest in Pacific trade, and we are willing to donate some of our first-class naval forces to help in your defense and protection of your commerce(darn pirates).


California Republic, USA, CSA, and Pacifistan:

Given your high levels of economic development, we would like to propose a free trade agreement on some goods, so as to stimulate competition and, in the long term, economic prosperity for us all. Whenever applicable, we will be willing to use our naval forces to aid in crushing piracy, or patrolling for other undesirables in your waters.

I would certainly be interested in such an offer. Though Pacifistan is a rich land, and a place of great technological development, we do not have quite so much food. Free trade with the breadbaskets of North America are certainly in my best interests, and the idea of the greatest navy in the world guaranteeing this trade pleases me greatly.

I would also like to negotiate a free trade agreement with Choxorn. We desperately need access to your coffee plants to power the wheels of one of our greatest exports; starbucks coffee, and I'm certain you will find many things within the wonderful land of pacifistan to recompense you aptly.

by picking a roller do we pick a neutral party in the game or do I have to hunt down a random board member not affiliated with this game?

California Republic, USA, CSA, and Pacifistan:

Given your high levels of economic development, we would like to propose a free trade agreement on some goods, so as to stimulate competition and, in the long term, economic prosperity for us all. Whenever applicable, we will be willing to use our naval forces to aid in crushing piracy, or patrolling for other undesirables in your waters.

Can I go on and claime Illinios, Indiana, and Ohio, since no one else seems to want that.

I'd like to formally suggest an American economic union. The Original US, CSA, California Republic, Pacifistan, and whoever gets the rest of America's mainland. Would anyone be interested? You wouldn't be forced to war with members, just allow free trade, share major advancements, stuff like that.

We already have one.

by picking a roller do we pick a neutral party in the game or do I have to hunt down a random board member not affiliated with this game?

I think it has to be a neutral party in the game.

by picking a roller do we pick a neutral party in the game or do I have to hunt down a random board member not affiliated with this game?
I think it has to be a neutral party in the game.

Owen has it correct. :)

We already have one.

Ah yes, I saw that, but it doesn't include the Marian Empire and California as of yet. So I was wondering if the many residents of North America would be interested in a free trade agreement between some of the world's most developed nations.

Choxorn, how about this?

http://i42.tinypic.com/qq5w1z.png

If you accept, I will support your claims on Ryuku, or Asian mainland.

I'm up for the free trade, and for my roller assuming he's neutral "Last One" will be my pick.

Choxorn, how about this?

http://i42.tinypic.com/qq5w1z.png

If you accept, I will support your claims on Ryuku, or Asian mainland.

OOC: The fact both of you are carving up the Philippines without even owning them yet is going to make the Claims Court a nightmare. :p


Repost of an earlier offer:

CivGeneral and TheLastOne:

I would like to propose a Pacific Security Treaty, meant to bring peace to the Pacific and it's many islands. This alliance would be three-way, with the Marian Empire, California and Oceanicstan working together for mutual benefit. The pact would be defensive, and thus would only activate if one of us was attacked. The pact would also not mingle with any other pacts we have, so if I supported Maryland in a war, for instance, you would not be dragged in.

The Marian Empire does not have any territories in the Pacific Ocean, but we nonetheless have a vested interest in Pacific trade, and we are willing to donate some of our first-class naval forces to help in your defense and protection of your commerce(darn pirates).

I'm up for the free trade,

:goodjob:

and for my roller assuming he's neutral "Last One" will be my pick.

If you mean TheLastOne, he's a member of the game(having a country) and thus isn't eligible... :(

wait a second, you told me it has to be a player. Who's playing that doesn't have a country?

I got Southern Africa.

Country name: Southern DysUtopia

Army: Pretty primitive army

Air force: Nearly none

Navy: Fairly large, but defensive

Capital: Zimbabwe

Development rating: Almost no industries, but relatively wealthy.

Economic style: Free Market

Political setup: Absolute Monarchy (but most of the monarchs are benevolent).

Social policy: A very devout Rastafarian bunch.

Foreign policy: Diplomacy is the best policy.

If the others accept the peace treaty, I will as well.

CivGeneral and TheLastOne:

I would like to propose a Pacific Security Treaty, meant to bring peace to the Pacific and it's many islands. This alliance would be three-way, with the Marian Empire, California and Oceanicstan working together for mutual benefit. The pact would be defensive, and thus would only activate if one of us was attacked. The pact would also not mingle with any other pacts we have, so if I supported Maryland in a war, for instance, you would not be dragged in.

The Marian Empire does not have any territories in the Pacific Ocean, but we nonetheless have a vested interest in Pacific trade, and we are willing to donate some of our first-class naval forces to help in your defense and protection of your commerce(darn pirates).


California Republic, USA, CSA, and Pacifistan:

Given your high levels of economic development, we would like to propose a free trade agreement on some goods, so as to stimulate competition and, in the long term, economic prosperity for us all. Whenever applicable, we will be willing to use our naval forces to aid in crushing piracy, or patrolling for other undesirables in your waters.

Does not sound so bad, agreed.

wait a second, you told me it has to be a player. Who's playing that doesn't have a country?

I apologise; allow me to clarify.

There are players(those with countries) and non-players(observers and those without countries). To be eligible to diceroll, you need to be a non-player. Anybody in mind? :)

I got Southern Africa.

Country name: Southern DysUtopia

Army: Pretty primitive army

Air force: Nearly none

Navy: Fairly large, but defensive

Capital: Zimbabwe

Development rating: Almost no industries, but relatively wealthy.

Economic style: Free Market

Political setup: Absolute Monarchy (but most of the monarchs are benevolent).

Social policy: A very devout Rastafarian bunch.

Foreign policy: Diplomacy is the best policy.

Welcome to the game!

If the others accept the peace treaty, I will as well.

Peace treaty? :confused:

Does not sound so bad, agreed.

:goodjob: Welcome to the game, CivG! I was wondering when you would show up. For a moment I thought California was leaderless.

The treaty i meant.

I apologise; allow me to clarify.

There are players(those with countries) and non-players(observers and those without countries). To be eligible to dice roll, you need to be a non-player. Anybody in mind? :)
So someone not playing right now, OK maybe Yared:dunno:

I apologise; allow me to clarify.

There are players(those with countries) and non-players(observers and those without countries). To be eligible to diceroll, you need to be a non-player. Anybody in mind? :)

I still think it would be better if it was done by a neutral third party nation who has no vested interest in the outcome (For example, me). Finding a roller would be easier, as would their stance on it (a non-player may prefer one nation to another).

:goodjob: Welcome to the game, CivG! I was wondering when you would show up. For a moment I thought California was leaderless.
OOC: I had a bit of a rage meltdown moment after one nation said "OMG YOU HAVE TEH ENERGY WEPONS REMOVE EM NAUGH!!" considering that the type of weapon and technologies don't even factor into dice rolls.

The treaty i meant.

Ah, figured so. Consider the three-way pact officially inked!

So someone not playing right now, OK maybe Yared:dunno:

Sounds good!

I still think it would be better if it was done by a neutral third party nation who has no vested interest in the outcome (For example, me). Finding a roller would be easier, as would their stance on it (a non-player may prefer one nation to another).

Hmm. I think it's long overdue, so we'll have a UN vote on this. I'll list my proposal for combat systems, and everyone else can then put in their input/suggested modifications. :)

OOC: I had a bit of a rage meltdown moment after one nation said "OMG YOU HAVE TEH ENERGY WEPONS REMOVE EM NAUGH!!" considering that the type of weapon and technologies don't even factor into dice rolls.

I saw. :eek:

Of course it's mostly a matter of numbers and not tech... as we are a Civilization forum, it would be blasphemous to not allow :spear:!

OOC: I had a bit of a rage meltdown moment after one nation said "OMG YOU HAVE TEH ENERGY WEPONS REMOVE EM NAUGH!!" considering that the type of weapon and technologies don't even factor into dice rolls.

Ive said ti before and ill say it again it DOES factor into it! a spear man shouldn't win against a tank for example.

TLO: i am sorry but you simply do not have enough resources to maintain a navy bigger than mine, unless i missed a large oil deposit, and a large metal deposit, and a good port for training and building. all in all, i think i have a legitimate claim to the largest navy in the world.

sorry. Byzantium hates being inferior. and so do i honestly... ho hard feelings?

in other news, 20 Byzantine Divisions have arrived in Brisbane to Defend the Capital.

I saw. :eek:


OOC: Yeah, I was nearly ->| |<- this close on pulling a ragequit similar to the one in the DYOS.

I am sure you are underestimating our naval capabilities. ;)

I am sure you are underestimating our naval capabilities. ;)

maybe but i still hate to be inferior.

maybe but i still hate to be inferior.
Most everyone would agree, that they don't want to be inferior. So you're not alone ;). Even Perfection does not want to be inferior.

OOC: Yeah, I was nearly ->| |<- this close on pulling a ragequit similar to the one in the DYOS.

Yikes! Hopefully we can prevent that from happening here...

Let's hope the Court rules in favor of advanced weaponry... I want bio-enhanced soldiers!

...Not that it matters anyway, considering, again, this game has a likelihood of spearman vs. tank occurring.

maybe but i still hate to be inferior.

Even a superpower like OTL the USSR or USA has weaknesses. It's impossible to be omnipotent; there is going to be some area where you can get decimated by an opponent. Just how warfare is.

...Not that it matters anyway, considering, again, this game has a likelihood of spearman vs. tank occurring.
Or a power armored solder going down in one shot from a dart gun (critical sneak attack) in Fallout 3. Or being headshotted by a freaking sniper 100 yards away and you just came out of spawn in Team Fortress 2.


Even a superpower like OTL the USSR or USA has weaknesses. It's impossible to be omnipotent; there is going to be some area where you can get decimated by an opponent. Just how warfare is.

Heck, even Perfection has a weakness, The Moderators! :eek:.

Yikes! Hopefully we can prevent that from happening here...

Let's hope the Court rules in favor of advanced weaponry... I want bio-enhanced soldiers!

...Not that it matters anyway, considering, again, this game has a likelihood of spearman vs. tank occurring.



Even a superpower like OTL the USSR or USA has weaknesses. It's impossible to be omnipotent; there is going to be some area where you can get decimated by an opponent. Just how warfare is.

the USA has a huge navy dispite not having any colonies. they do that to police the world. my navy shares that funtiom with the USA of our world

if court rules in favor of advanced technology, then i can contact the Byzantine Star Republic and have them lend a star destroyer. i can destroy any state virually unopposed. or i can create Hoverships (hovering star destroyers) or i can create colony ships, etc.

the USA has a huge navy dispite not having any colonies. they do that to police the world. my navy shares that funtiom with the USA of our world

if court rules in favor of advanced technology, then i can contact the Byzantine Star Republic and have them lend a star destroyer. i can destroy any state virually unopposed. or i can create Hoverships (hovering star destroyers) or i can create colony ships, etc.Yeah, we'll I'll take your hoverships and beat them into a scrap with my almighty


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the hover ships are air based. you need to but the stink into somethign explosive. itll just bounce off and the captian will kill himself laughing.

the USA has a huge navy dispite not having any colonies. they do that to police the world. my navy shares that funtiom with the USA of our world

if court rules in favor of advanced technology, then i can contact the Byzantine Star Republic and have them lend a star destroyer. i can destroy any state virually unopposed. or i can create Hoverships (hovering star destroyers) or i can create colony ships, etc.

The vote is on science fiction weapons so long as they DON'T act as a superweapon similar to a nuke. Your star destroyers would count as that. We don't want the same thing happening to this thread as happened to the last one.

then tell me what the limit in technological level is.

the hover ships are air based. you need to but the stink into somethign explosive. itll just bounce off and the captian will kill himself laughing.DUDE, YOUR SENTENCE IS POORLY PHRASED SO IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO TELL WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

But I will note that the Stick is a very robust piece of driftwood and Pope Perfection can jump really high into the air.

DUDE, YOUR SENTENCE IS POORLY PHRASED SO IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO TELL WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

But I will note that the Stick is a very robust piece of driftwood and Pope Perfection can jump really high into the air.

i didnt get high English grades. if you can decipher what im saying its good enough..

and what will you do? whack metal armor with a stick? if it goes down, then im executing my engineers.

Choxorn, how about this?

http://i42.tinypic.com/qq5w1z.png

If you accept, I will support your claims on Ryuku, or Asian mainland.

Alright, deal. But I don't have any claims on Ryuku, I don't want CG to go into rage mode when he doesn't get the Japanese Islands.

@Owen: Only if you agree to sell us the Starbucks Coffee for less than the ridiculous prices they have. :p

then tell me what the limit in technological level is.

I'd say the limit is that it doesn't put the game out of balance, or allow for you to do stupid, cheap things.

For example nukes: You can just drop them on any city you want, and since this isn't real life, there's no reason to not do it.

CG's plasma rifles, on the other hand, are actually supposed to be equal to, or in some cases weaker than assault rifles.

Your star destroyers allows you to fly around and destroy whatever you want. I'd say your hovercraft would be fine given that a.) the fighter planes of the other nations are comparable (to some extent), or b.) it is more powerful, but the rest of the nations are ok with this, and it doesn't totally put you out of reach.

My perspective on it, though I'm sure further votes will define what, specifically is to be done with futuristic technology.

I'd say the limit is that it doesn't put the game out of balance, or allow for you to do stupid, cheap things.
OOC: Hmm, Deja vu of DRAW Your Own Story 5-9 :cringe:


CG's plasma rifles, on the other hand, are actually supposed to be equal to, or in some cases weaker than assault rifles.
Exactly. OOC: And why I placed in the excerpt from Fallout wikia :).

and what will you do? whack metal armor with a stick?
I'LL BAT IT OUT OF THE PARK LIKE JOE DIMAGGIO
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I'd say the limit is that it doesn't put the game out of balance, or allow for you to do stupid, cheap things.

For example nukes: You can just drop them on any city you want, and since this isn't real life, there's no reason to not do it.

CG's plasma rifles, on the other hand, are actually supposed to be equal to, or in some cases weaker than assault rifles.

Your star destroyers allows you to fly around and destroy whatever you want. I'd say your hovercraft would be fine given that a.) the fighter planes of the other nations are comparable (to some extent), or b.) it is more powerful, but the rest of the nations are ok with this, and it doesn't totally put you out of reach.

My perspective on it, though I'm sure further votes will define what, specifically is to be done with futuristic technology.

the hover ships are like huge planes without a range limit. and you can quite easily destroy it ( or lat least damage it) by targeting the engines. for obvious reasons, the Captain will move the ship away from the cities before air combat starts.

( note: the engines, like the rest of the ship is protected by a fairly weak energy shield. 60 aircraft carried missiles can knock out a shield on all 6 vectors. ten each.)

the hover ships can be used for anything pretty much, not just the bomber role. but it travels rather slow ( its top speed is mach one).

if thats overpowered i wont bother constructing any.

Ugh, I'm getting kinda annoyed. I propose the The Global Weapons Act. This will make it so that any weapon that can not feasibly be made within the next 5 to 10 years cannot and will not appear in the game. I want this game to be somewhat reminiscent of our times now, not the year 3000.

If you want to, we can put this up to vote in the UN thread, Taniciusfox.

Ugh, I'm getting kinda annoyed. I propose the The Global Weapons Act. This will make it so that any weapon that can not feasibly be made within the next 5 to 10 years cannot and will not appear in the game. I want this game to be somewhat reminiscent of our times now, not the year 3000.

If you want to, we can put this up to vote in the UN thread, Taniciusfox.

i support this act.

Anyways, Pope Perfection condemns unflavored condoms as an abomination.

Anyways, Pope Perfection condemns unflavored condoms as an abomination.

the patriarch condemns the pope for being stupid.

the patriarch condemns the pope for being stupid.

I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I?
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Ugh, I'm getting kinda annoyed.

I honestly cannot blame you for that.

I propose the The Global Weapons Act. This will make it so that any weapon that can not feasibly be made within the next 5 to 10 years cannot and will not appear in the game. I want this game to be somewhat reminiscent of our times now, not the year 3000.

If you want to, we can put this up to vote in the UN thread, Taniciusfox.

The only real problematic poster seems to be Mathalamus(I don't think any bio-enhanced soldiers or plasma rifles can compare to a FREAKING DEATH STAR), so I think we'll let the verdict, more or less, reside with the current court decision, which is very bitterly-split.

I honestly cannot blame you for that.



The only real problematic poster seems to be Mathalamus(I don't think any bio-enhanced soldiers or plasma rifles can compare to a FREAKING DEATH STAR), so I think we'll let the verdict, more or less, reside with the current court decision, which is very bitterly-split.

its not the death star..... its a star destroyer, the ships you see in star wars.

if i wanted a death star ill turn the moon base that i have into a giant laser.

Ugh, I'm getting kinda annoyed. I propose the The Global Weapons Act. This will make it so that any weapon that can not feasibly be made within the next 5 to 10 years cannot and will not appear in the game. I want this game to be somewhat reminiscent of our times now, not the year 3000.

If you want to, we can put this up to vote in the UN thread, Taniciusfox.You should realize that this does not disallow directed energy weapons, as there are currently used laser weapons.

You should realize that this does not disallow directed energy weapons, as there are currently used laser weapons.

oh i didn't realize the US Army has laser weapons now. directed energy weapons are not piratical, and thus disallowed.

The only real problematic poster seems to be Mathalamus(I don't think any bio-enhanced soldiers or plasma rifles can compare to a FREAKING DEATH STAR), so I think we'll let the verdict, more or less, reside with the current court decision, which is very bitterly-split.

You should realize that this does not disallow directed energy weapons, as there are currently used laser weapons.

Yes, this is what I was getting at. I don't mind laser rifles, rail guns, or stuff like that (even how impractical and expensive they might be ;)). What I don't want to see are Star Ships coming in and blowing up Jerusalem.

Yes, this is what I was getting at. I don't mind laser rifles, rail guns, or stuff like that (even how impractical and expensive they might be ;)). What I don't want to see are Star Ships coming in and blowing up Jerusalem.

fine. laser weapons are allowed. ill construct some kind of jamming equipment to compensate.

how the crap do you jam a laser?

fine. laser weapons are allowed. ill construct some kind of jamming equipment to compensate.

Why? It's not like it gets any advantage over anything else, all battles are totally random, nothing weighs in.

fine. laser weapons are allowed. ill construct some kind of jamming equipment to compensate.
Why does this give me a sense of Deja vu with the Powergame shenanigans of DYOS 5-9? :hmm:

Why? It's not like it gets any advantage over anything else, all battles are totally random, nothing weighs in.MY STICK THUGS SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH! :mwaha:

Oh great, looks like Mathalamus hasn't learned the lessons of DYOS 5-9 and wants to ruin it through powergaming. :rolleyes:

MY STICK THUGS SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH! :mwaha:

Not unless you have to go up against my STONE WIELDERS!

Let's just hope no bones are broken in this epic battle.

Is it too late to join this game? It looks interesting.

Not unless you have to go up against my STONE WIELDERS!

Let's just hope no bones are broken in this epic battle.Dude, let's go to war with everyone else! Their puny words will never hurt us! :mwaha:

*groans, then facepalms myself* im staying out of it.

*groans, then facepalms himself* im staying out of it.

There ya go, buddy. ;)

is it too late to change my pick?

It is if you want the Holy See :mwaha:

so what do we do with all those independent states left?

perhaps we could control more then one country like Queen Elizabeth. If so I want WW1 Germany.

Is it too late to join this game? It looks interesting.

No, it isn't at all. Just name your territory (land has to be unclaimed, though).

well im expanding my claim. Romania and Hungary are claimed as vassal states.

Country name: Tibet & Toronto


Army: Tibet is lightly protected by highly dedicated shaolin monks and Toronto is protected by the RCMP

Air force: aside for a couple of unarmed helicopters it's nonextant

Navy: just a small coast guard for policing the great lake

Capital: Lhasa is the Capital of Tibet but not Toronto which is for the most part a self governing city state.

Development rating: Second world in Tibet, First world in Toronto

Economic style: Toronto makes the money, Tibet gets the money

Political setup: Basically a Modern Feudal system in Tibet where the Dalai Lama has absolute power and everyone else are serfs, but in Toronto the Dalai Lama is mostly a figurehead head of state the rest of its affairs are governed by the Prime Minister but the Dalai Lama can veto his decisions

Social policy: Tibet is closed to the outside world with the exceptions of Buddhist pilgrims and citizens of Toronto. But in Toronto itself its a whole different story as it is the primary economic hub for the whole country

Foreign policy: Neutral and stays out off world affairs

Country name: Tibet & Toronto


Army: Tibet is lightly protected by highly dedicated shaolin monks and Toronto is protected by the RCMP

Air force: aside for a couple of unarmed helicopters it's nonextant

Navy: just a small coast guard for policing the great lake

Capital: Lhasa is the Capital of Tibet but not Toronto which is for the most part a self governing city state.

Development rating: Second world in Tibet, First world in Toronto

Economic style: Toronto makes the money, Tibet gets the money

Political setup: Basically a Modern Feudal system in Tibet where the Dalai Lama has absolute power and everyone else are serfs, but in Toronto the Dalai Lama is mostly a figurehead head of state the rest of its affairs are governed by the Prime Minister but the Dalai Lama can veto his decisions

Social policy: Tibet is closed to the outside world with the exceptions of Buddhist pilgrims and citizens of Toronto. But in Toronto itself its a whole different story as it is the primary economic hub for the whole country

Foreign policy: Neutral and stays out off world affairs

Sounds great! Shall we unite in neutrality?

Country name: Holy C! (the C is short for Crap!)

Army: Pope Perfection with a stick!

Air force: Pope Perfection with a pogo stick!

Navy: Pope Perfection with a pool noodle!

Capital: The Vat-Cave

Development rating: Fully Developed Double Ds on lovely Popess Perfectina

Economic style: Worshipful minions throughout the world pay Pope Perfection tribute.

Political setup: Pope Perfection is the leader of the College of St. Louis Cardinals, who taught him how to hit things with sticks

Social policy: Antisocial

Foreign policy: Insane Kim Jong-il-esque posturing but without the stupid haircut.

Sounds great! Shall we unite in neutrality?

OK:goodjob:

Country name: Holy C! (the C is short for Crap!)

Army: Pope Perfection with a stick!

Air force: Pope Perfection with a pogo stick!

Navy: Pope Perfection with a pool noodle!

Capital: The Vat-Cave

Development rating: Fully Developed Double Ds on lovely Popess Perfectina

Economic style: Worshipful minions throughout the world pay Pope Perfection tribute.

Political setup: Pope Perfection is the leader of the College of St. Louis Cardinals, who taught him how to hit things with sticks

Social policy: Antisocial

Foreign policy: Insane Kim Jong-il-esque posturing but without the stupid haircut.

what, are you god or something?

Don't ask questions you don't know the answer to:spank:

what, are you god or something?
I'm the Pope! :smug:

Taniciusfox, you forgot to add my claims to cuba and alaska.

Also, let's call this four-way pact something nutty, like The Pact of the Proletariat...

Is it too late to join this game? It looks interesting.

is it too late to change my pick?

No, it isn't at all. Just name your territory (land has to be unclaimed, though).

Owen's comment applies to both theAlamo and lil post count's posts. I don't mind people switching countries, just don't do it over and over again; it's quite a pain in the ass having to edit all the posts/write in the links/etc.

well im expanding my claim. Romania and Hungary are claimed as vassal states.

I'll add this to the UN tomorrow; I'm too tired at the moment. To be fair, the 3-day timer won't start until I post the case. :)

Taniciusfox, you forgot to add my claims to cuba and alaska.

Also, let's call this four-way pact something nutty, like The Pact of the Proletariat...

I have the CCCP down for Alaska... I'll add in Cuba, however. :)

The Holy C claims control of Edina, Bermuda, and Antarctica

I have the CCCP down for Alaska... I'll add in Cuba, however. :)

Speaking of claims, when do voter's claims end? Is it once everyone has weighed in? Once a sufficient majority has been reached? After a preset amount of time?

Speaking of claims, when do voter's claims end? Is it once everyone has weighed in? Once a sufficient majority has been reached? After a preset amount of time?

Voting ends after:

A. A simple majority of all players(currently 9) weighs in favor of a decision.
B. 72 hours pass since the case was officially opened with a post. The plurality of votes after this time decides the outcome.

I'd like to rejoin this:

Carthagistan claims Iberia, Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia and Libya.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m51/Grenadier_539/CarthageFlag.png

Country name: Carthagistan

Official name: Empire of Carthagistan

(Formerly known as: Carthaginistani Republican Empire)

Demonym: Carthagistani

Capital: Carthage, Tunisia (Carthage-Tunis Metropolitan Area)

Army: Small but well-trained professional army, specializing in special operations and surgical strikes. All citizens required to undergo basic military training and can be mobilized in the event of an invasion (Emergency Defence of Sovereignty Act, 2009). Well-equipped armored fortresses have been constructed around the Empire as rallying points and outposts in remote areas.

Air force: Very large, very well equipped, state-of-the-art airforce, including well-trained paratroopers. Several large firms operate factories mass-producing aircrafts for commercial and military use, lowering costs. Several massive airborne, nuclear-powered "Air Fortresses" are known to be operational, but kept for use in emergencies.

Navy: Large navy, with particular emphasis on aircraft carriers, submarines and marines. A "Floating Fortress" is under construction.

Political setup: Officially describes itself as a "Republican Empire". In practice, the country is divided into provinces the size of a large town which functions more or less as a direct democracy. These elect representatives to be represented in the Imperial Assembly in Carthage, which in turn elects an Emperor. The Emperor has executive powers and will rule for a maximum of 25 years when he will be obliged to retire, but his power is greatly restricted by the Constitution.

Foreign policy: Interventionist, but also conservative about the use of military force. Particularly hostile towards oppressive regimes. Also expects its sovereignty to be respected.

Social policy: Very liberal. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of thought and freedom of movement are guaranteed and hold sacred. Same-sex marriage is legal. The death penalty and conscription are abolished. Generally speaking, anything which does not impinge on another person's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is tolerated.

Economic style: Moderately socialist. However, pragmatism is held above ideology.

Development rating: Newly-Industrialized - not at First World level, but catching up fast. Living standards in major cities are quite good; the government is currently concentrating on developing the countryside. Chronic poverty is rare thanks to welfare programs provided by the imperial and local governments.

Primary industries: Manufacturing, banking, tourism. The current Emperor is very keen particularly on developing IT. The country exports oil and minerals found in the Sahara and further exploration of natural resources in the area is underway.

Territories

Carthagistan in yellow.

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Flag

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m51/Grenadier_539/CarthageFlag.png

Territories

Carthagistan in yellow.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m51/Grenadier_539/Map.png

yeah about that, are you keeping the strait internationalized?

yeah about that, are you keeping the strait internationalized?

The Strait of Gibraltar can be used by any nation except those at war with Carthagistan.

I'd like to take this opportunity to officially claim Gibraltar, the Azores, Madeira Islands and Canary Islands. I'll post this at the UN as well.

The Strait of Gibraltar can be used by any nation except those at war with Carthagistan.

I'd like to take this opportunity to officially claim Gibraltar, the Azores, Madeira Islands and Canary Islands. I'll post this at the UN as well.

good. i was almost expecting you to deny us the use of the strait.

I'm going to go ahead and claim Finland, Jamaica, Barbados and the island of hispaniola. It's the peoples colonies, a thing in CCCPs one-month vacation, where vacation is provided by the state, for a very cheap price.

The Holy C claims control of Edina, Bermuda, and Antarctica
Sorry Perfection, Bermuda is an Important naval hub of my empire, you can only have it if the UN gives it to you. Oh and wich Edina do you want, theres like 5?

Territories

Carthagistan in yellow.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m51/Grenadier_539/Map.png
Tailless we should work on filling the unorganized middle to form a respectable border, and how does a defensive pact sound?:deal:

I'm going to go ahead and claim Finland, Jamaica, Barbados and the island of hispaniola. It's the peoples colonies, a thing in CCCPs one-month vacation, where vacation is provided by the state, for a very cheap price.

Sorry Love Barbados is spoken for, maybe I can interest you in Grenada:think:

Sorry Perfection, Bermuda is an Important naval hub of my empire, you can only have it if the UN gives it to you. Oh and wich Edina do you want, theres like 5?


Tailless we should work on filling the unorganized middle to form a respectable border, and how does a defensive pact sound?:deal:



Sorry Love Barbados is spoken for, maybe I can interest you in Grenada:think:

Ok, i don't need barbados, I actually meant bahamas... Stupid islands :D

I support your claims then.

A Note on Claims:

You must wait until your current claims case is over before starting another, and you must also wait 72 hours between case openings. Meaning, if you open a case today and it finishes tomorrow, you would still have to wait the 72 hours between cases as if you hadn't been able to get a majority.

This is to help ensure that there's plenty of lands available for new players.

In the event a new nation ever wants territory still being claimed(i.e. Pacifistan claims some part of Canada, but then a new country wants all of Canada), a Treaty Court case might be necessary.

what about my counterclaim for the Ohio Valley?

what about my counterclaim for the Ohio Valley?

You haven't claimed anything else, so you're free to claim it. :)

In the event both you and the CSA win your separate cases, however, you'll have to(in my guess):

1. Face off in a Treaty Court case to decide the victor.
2. Negotiate separately.

Obviously, the first is for the ambitious and risk-taking type. The second is for those who are willing to get something rather than nothing.

Congress has passed, and openly promotes the Land of Opportunity Act. Any person who does a Crime punishable by death or grants a Life Sentence in their home country, which, in our country, also isn't punished with death or life sentence, may, if they so choose, go to The Thirteen States, and get Asylum there, under the direcstion of OUR laws. After their sentence is done, they shall start over a fresh immigrant, and, if they turn their life around, become a citizen of our nation.

Congress has passed, and openly promotes the Land of Opportunity Act. Any person who does a Crime punishable by death or grants a Life Sentence in their home country, which, in our country, also isn't punished with death or life sentence, may, if they so choose, go to The Thirteen States, and get Asylum there, under the direcstion of OUR laws. After their sentence is done, they shall start over a fresh immigrant, and, if they turn their life around, become a citizen of our nation.

In light of these new laws Parliament has quickly passed the The Thirteen States Emigration Act. Anyone who wishes to go to The Thirteen States must get approval from the state after submitting forms.

Anyone who is in jail and or is going to be punished is automatically NOT allowed to leave until they have done their sentence (this is applicable to all nations).

The CCCP wishes to buy supplies of the islraeli oil, in exchange we can trade you wood and other biological resources, directly from the great Tajgan.

The CCCP wishes to buy supplies of the islraeli oil, in exchange we can trade you wood and other biological resources, directly from the great Tajgan.

In light of this I pass The Second Oil Act. Any ally of mine who wishes to set up Oil drilling operations within my country automatically gets to at a extremely reduced tax (i.e. barely anything). As an ally they also will automatically be allowed to drill (though they should still submit a form).

As for everyone else, it stays the same. (i.e. anyone who wishes to set up Oil drilling operations in my country must submit a form to be approved, and there will be a tax put upon them for being foreign).

And Love, I accept your offer to drill here, and now I get to set up logging plants in Tajgan.

The council assembled and has agreed that allies will have access to areas in the Tajgan, where they can set-up logging industries. The tax will be almost infinite and the only restriction is the local environmental rules, which the workers must obey for the preservation of the forest.

Non-Allies can set up contracts with the council, but they will not have the same offer.

What are the 'sides' right now?

Currently there are no `sides´, there's still claiming to do :evil:

OOC: I think there should be a weekly "Update", so that our Roleplaying in this game isn't for naught, and that we know the general idea is going on. It would be awesome if this was in real time (I.G. Anything posted today would be 3/16/10 in the update).

I discover a huge oil reserve inbetween Papua New Guinea and Australia.

I discover a huge oil reserve inbetween Papua New Guinea and Australia.

Dude, is there actually one there in real life? I want to try and base this off of real geography, so not everyone can claim "I found a huge oil field here or there", I want to see it become an actually sought after resource.

Well it is not far fetched, as it used to be land bridge not to long ago.

Also IRL Papua New Guinea has tons of Oil surrounding it. If I can't claim it there, then I'll claim somewhere else near Papua New Guinea. (Or in Borneo)

Ukraine claims Brazil as a vassal state. They also deny the Land of Opportunity Act, as they feel the people of the Ukraine are under their control.

What are the 'sides' right now?

The alliance blocks are listed either on the first page of this thread, or the first page of the UN one. I can't remember which.